Billboard Hot 100: 02/02/2019

[fhas]

Jan 27, 2019 13:30:48 GMT -5 ddlz said:

40. (+3) GESAFFELSTEIN & THE WEEKND - Lost In The Fire (40.851) (+1.678)

How on earth has this turd been able to collect this much airplay already? My God, radio is so out of touch/corrupt.

$$

[mackattack]

Y’all stay comparing Ari to Rihanna, Katy Perry, Lady Gaga, etc. at their peaks as if it’s at all a fair comparison. It’s the same thing with that Drake vs. Post Malone conversation from last week. The way music is consumed now is so much different than in 2009 that it’s virtually impossible to really compare music stats. Also a lot of the songs that the older pop girls put out at the time are hot garbage but nostalgia tricks y’all into thinking they’re any good but I digress.

[tanooki]

Final Predictions 2/2/19

1. 7 Rings 679 (NEW)
2. Without Me 457 (-1)
3. Sunflower 417 (-1)
4. thank u, next 333 (+1)
5. SICKO MODE 317 (-2)
6. High Hopes 306 (-2)
7. Happier 275 (-1)
8. Drip Too Hard 231 (=)
9. Wow. 227 (=)
10. Eastside 217 (+1)
11. Girls Like You 209 (-4)
12. Wake Up in the Sky 208 (=)
13. ZEZE 201 (-3)
14. Money 197 (-1)
15. Going Bad 178 (+2)
16. MIA 175 (+4)
17. Taki Taki 170 (+2)
18. Leave Me Alone 166 (+3)
19. Youngblood 165 (-3)
20. Better Now 164 (-5)

Others:
breathin 158
Mo Bamba 154

[jenglisbe]

Jan 27, 2019 11:51:04 GMT -5 Soulsista said:

February 5, 1994

01 01 All For One - Bryan Adams, Rod Stewart & Sting (3rd and final week at #1)
02 02 Hero - Mariah Carey
03 04 The Power Of Love - Celine Dion
04 03 Breathe Again - Toni Braxton
05 16 The Sign - Ace Of Base
06 07 All That She Wants - Ace Of Base
07 06 Said I Loved You...But I Lied - Michael Bolton
08 05 Again - Janet Jackson
09 08 Please Forgive Me - Bryan Adams
10 09 Shoop - Salt-N-Pepa

How many weeks did “Hero” have in the previous chart year?

“Again” held on well.

[Golden Bluebird]

[kierz7]

Jan 27, 2019 15:26:25 GMT -5 jenglisbe said:

Jan 27, 2019 11:51:04 GMT -5 Soulsista said:

February 5, 1994

01 01 All For One - Bryan Adams, Rod Stewart & Sting (3rd and final week at #1)
02 02 Hero - Mariah Carey
03 04 The Power Of Love - Celine Dion
04 03 Breathe Again - Toni Braxton
05 16 The Sign - Ace Of Base
06 07 All That She Wants - Ace Of Base
07 06 Said I Loved You...But I Lied - Michael Bolton
08 05 Again - Janet Jackson
09 08 Please Forgive Me - Bryan Adams
10 09 Shoop - Salt-N-Pepa

How many weeks did “Hero” have in the previous chart year?

“Again” held on well.

5 weeks prior to the Y/E cut off date - November 27th - and only three of those weeks were spent outside the top 10.

By February 5th it had spent 12 weeks in the top 10.

[𝓲𝓽'𝓼.𝓰𝓿]

This chart week last year = God's Plan debuts at #1
This chart week this year = 7 Rings debuts at #1

[jayhawk1117]

Jan 27, 2019 18:15:02 GMT -5 𝓲𝓽'𝓼.𝓰𝓿 said:

This chart week last year = God's Plan debuts at #1
This chart week this year = 7 Rings debuts at #1

lets guess who's debuting at number one this time next year.

I'm going with Post Malone

[𝓲𝓽'𝓼.𝓰𝓿]

Jan 27, 2019 18:27:36 GMT -5 jayhawk1117 said:

Jan 27, 2019 18:15:02 GMT -5 𝓲𝓽'𝓼.𝓰𝓿 said:

This chart week last year = God's Plan debuts at #1
This chart week this year = 7 Rings debuts at #1

lets guess who's debuting at number one this time next year.

I'm going with Post Malone

My pick is someone like Travis Scott.

[Gary]

The year prior was Shape Of You

[𝓲𝓽'𝓼.𝓰𝓿]

Jan 27, 2019 18:32:25 GMT -5 Gary said:

The year prior was Shape Of You

It got its first week at #1 the chart week before the chart weeks where both God's Plan and 7 Rings will debut at #1. The conclusion is...a debut at #1 is certain between the last week of January or first week of February.

[Gary]

yes - I posted because -well.... close enough

[Gary]

Jan 27, 2019 19:16:25 GMT -5 𝓲𝓽'𝓼.𝓰𝓿 said:

Jan 27, 2019 18:32:25 GMT -5 Gary said:

The year prior was Shape Of You

It got its first week at #1 the chart week before the chart weeks where both God's Plan and 7 Rings will debut at #1. The conclusion is...a debut at #1 is certain between the last week of January or first week of February.

We could say the most like month for a #1 debut Is September and you won't get one at all in August


The distribution by month(based on chart date)


September 6

February 5

November 5

May 4

July 3

January 2

March 2

June 2

October 2

April 1

December 1

[Au$tin]

Jan 27, 2019 14:02:07 GMT -5 fhas said:

Jan 27, 2019 13:30:48 GMT -5 ddlz said:

40. (+3) GESAFFELSTEIN & THE WEEKND - Lost In The Fire (40.851) (+1.678)

How on earth has this turd been able to collect this much airplay already? My God, radio is so out of touch/corrupt.

$$

??

Guys, it's brand new music from The Weeknd. Radio was going to eat that shit up no matter if the song was absolutely terrible and failed to even make a dent on the charts. But, you know, it actually did make some waves on its debut despite of whatever backlash it's been getting. It absolutely will hit a brick wall if listeners aren't connecting with it, though. It has happened countless of times before, there isn't a reason why it wouldn't happen here as well. Only time will tell if this happens, though, because it is still #69 on iTunes, #32 on Spotify, and #96 on Apple Music. While that's nothing incredible, it is a sign that people are still interested 16 days after release. Radio is absolutely not out of touch or corrupt for supporting a brand new single from one of the hottest artists of the last few years. Also, for the trillionth time, actual monetary payment for airplay solicitation is illegal. That doesn't mean there aren't other means for encouraging more airplay from radio stations, but money is never it. We all really need to get that idea out of our heads because all it does is foster arguments and unhealthy discussion.

Plus, not that I'm defending the lyrics here, but they're incredibly tame compared to what songs and artists have turned into hits as of late.

[𝓲𝓽'𝓼.𝓰𝓿]

Jan 27, 2019 19:26:27 GMT -5 Gary said:

Jan 27, 2019 19:16:25 GMT -5 𝓲𝓽'𝓼.𝓰𝓿 said:

It got its first week at #1 the chart week before the chart weeks where both God's Plan and 7 Rings will debut at #1. The conclusion is...a debut at #1 is certain between the last week of January or first week of February.

We could say the most like month for a #1 debut Is September and you won't get one at all in August


The distribution by month(based on chart date)


September 6

February 5

November 5

May 4

July 3

January 2

March 2

June 2

October 2

April 1

December 1

The closest August could've got a #1 debut was any debut at #1 that happened at the first chart week of September.

[Au$tin]

Jan 27, 2019 19:18:38 GMT -5 Gary said:

yes - I posted because -well.... close enough

"Close enough" only counts in horseshoes and hand grenades.

[fhas]

Jan 27, 2019 19:30:02 GMT -5 Au$tin said:

Jan 27, 2019 14:02:07 GMT -5 fhas said:

$$

??

Guys, it's brand new music from The Weeknd. Radio was going to eat that s**t up no matter if the song was absolutely terrible and failed to even make a dent on the charts. But, you know, it actually did make some waves on its debut despite of whatever backlash it's been getting. It absolutely will hit a brick wall if listeners aren't connecting with it, though. It has happened countless of times before, there isn't a reason why it wouldn't happen here as well. Only time will tell if this happens, though, because it is still #69 on iTunes, #32 on Spotify, and #96 on Apple Music. While that's nothing incredible, it is a sign that people are still interested 16 days after release. Radio is absolutely not out of touch or corrupt for supporting a brand new single from one of the hottest artists of the last few years. Also, for the trillionth time, actual monetary payment for airplay solicitation is illegal. That doesn't mean there aren't other means for encouraging more airplay from radio stations, but money is never it. We all really need to get that idea out of our heads because all it does is foster arguments and unhealthy discussion.

Plus, not that I'm defending the lyrics here, but they're incredibly tame compared to what songs and artists have turned into hits as of late.

This song had the best debut on the PopSongs chart since Filthy. I know he's popular and I love his music but The Weeknd is not that popular (I mean, I'd expect this from a lead single by Adele, Taylor, etc.). It's a clear case of payola to promote Gesaffelstein's debut single.

[Xander]

The fact that Girls Like You will be the song with the most weeks in the top 10, blows my mind. Question is, is how long will it stay in the top 10?

[𝓲𝓽'𝓼.𝓰𝓿]

Jan 27, 2019 19:44:38 GMT -5 Xander said:

The fact that Girls Like You will be the song with the most weeks in the top 10, blows my mind. Question is, is how long will it stay in the top 10?

There's a possibility it will break the record Shape of You currently holds, but there's a possibility SICKO MODE may break the record too.

[Au$tin]

Jan 27, 2019 19:40:40 GMT -5 fhas said:

Jan 27, 2019 19:30:02 GMT -5 Au$tin said:

??

Guys, it's brand new music from The Weeknd. Radio was going to eat that s**t up no matter if the song was absolutely terrible and failed to even make a dent on the charts. But, you know, it actually did make some waves on its debut despite of whatever backlash it's been getting. It absolutely will hit a brick wall if listeners aren't connecting with it, though. It has happened countless of times before, there isn't a reason why it wouldn't happen here as well. Only time will tell if this happens, though, because it is still #69 on iTunes, #32 on Spotify, and #96 on Apple Music. While that's nothing incredible, it is a sign that people are still interested 16 days after release. Radio is absolutely not out of touch or corrupt for supporting a brand new single from one of the hottest artists of the last few years. Also, for the trillionth time, actual monetary payment for airplay solicitation is illegal. That doesn't mean there aren't other means for encouraging more airplay from radio stations, but money is never it. We all really need to get that idea out of our heads because all it does is foster arguments and unhealthy discussion.

Plus, not that I'm defending the lyrics here, but they're incredibly tame compared to what songs and artists have turned into hits as of late.

This song had the best debut on the PopSongs chart since Filthy. I know he's popular and I love his music but The Weeknd is not that popular (I mean, I'd expect this from a lead single by Adele, Taylor, etc.). It's a clear case of payola to promote Gesaffelstein's debut single.

It's first full week (Friday-Thursday) on Mediabase's Top 40 chart was 2,789 spins at #26, which is considerably less than "Filthy"'s 7,025 spins at #14. "Lost in the Fire" also did not receive any sort of radio deal on pop radio. It grew naturally into its spins. "Filthy," on the other hand, did receive a radio deal, which is about as much "payola" as you're gonna get. Again, the actual act of soliciting airplay for money or vice versa is illegal. The only way to encourage airplay, legally, is with radio campaigns and offering gifts to a station in hopes of more airplay. It's never guaranteed. (But I guess we're going to gloss over this fact.)

And for the record, no, it was not the biggest debut on pop radio since "Filthy."
"In My Blood" - 3,216 spins - #25
"no tears left to cry" - 4,712 spins - #20

Hell, "One Kiss" from Calvin Harris and Dua Lipa (both of whom are below The Weeknd in terms of fame) debuted with 2,419 spins at #28 without a radio deal as well. That stat is just ever so slightly smaller than "Lost in the Fire"'s. It's a completely normal stat to see from a new single that features well-known artists with recent successes at pop radio, but did not receive a radio deal. "thank u, next" pulled in 1,180 spins and was at #40 after its first full week when she had two other currents gaining at the same time ("God is a woman" and "breathin"). I guarantee you that without those two currents, the track would have had similar numbers to "One Kiss" and "Lost in the Fire." (Yes, shockingly, "thank u, next" did not receive a radio deal.) Halsey's "Without Me" also did not receive a radio deal. Debuted with 1,480 spins at #36. Again, Halsey isn't on the same level as The Weeknd, so it would make sense for new music from The Weeknd to get higher spins in its first week. And possibly the best example? Check out Alessia Cara's "Growing Pains." 2,744 spins in its first seven days, coming in at #27. That one did have a radio deal and still didn't manage the same amount of spins as "Lost in the Fire" and barely over "One Kiss." Don't you think if The Weeknd would have had money thrown at his new single, even as a featured credit, that it would have managed substantially more than Alessia Cara? I certainly believe so.

So let's stick to the fact: "Lost in the Fire" has fairly substantial hype upon its release, but did not have a radio deal on pop. These two factors led to it having the debut it did, which was in fact not the biggest first full week debut since "Filthy." I fully and completely understand that you're probably referring to the Sunday chart given out by Billboard, but that is useless to use in this comparison since "Lost in the Fire" did not receive a radio deal, which means that it wouldn't have debuted on any airplay chart two days after release like "In My Blood" and "no tears left to cry" likely did. You have to go by first full seven days, otherwise it's completely unfair to all tracks involved. It would be like comparing a #1 debut in its second eligible charting week to a track that debuted at like #76 and then sprang to #1 the following week because it had large enough airplay in the first 3 days of release to get it to debut before its first full week.

[thabb]

really really wish we would keep all of the silly payola talk on stan twitter and stan twitter only

[Deleted]

Jan 27, 2019 20:04:16 GMT -5 𝓲𝓽'𝓼.𝓰𝓿 said:

Jan 27, 2019 19:44:38 GMT -5 Xander said:

The fact that Girls Like You will be the song with the most weeks in the top 10, blows my mind. Question is, is how long will it stay in the top 10?

There's a possibility it will break the record Shape of You currently holds, but there's a possibility SICKO MODE may break the record too.

I don't see this, Sicko Mode has ten weeks to go and it peaked in everything basically. It gonna drop out of the top ten fast

[livelightning]

Jan 27, 2019 19:30:02 GMT -5 Au$tin said:

Jan 27, 2019 14:02:07 GMT -5 fhas said:

$$

??

Guys, it's brand new music from The Weeknd. Radio was going to eat that s**t up no matter if the song was absolutely terrible and failed to even make a dent on the charts. But, you know, it actually did make some waves on its debut despite of whatever backlash it's been getting. It absolutely will hit a brick wall if listeners aren't connecting with it, though. It has happened countless of times before, there isn't a reason why it wouldn't happen here as well. Only time will tell if this happens, though, because it is still #69 on iTunes, #32 on Spotify, and #96 on Apple Music. While that's nothing incredible, it is a sign that people are still interested 16 days after release. Radio is absolutely not out of touch or corrupt for supporting a brand new single from one of the hottest artists of the last few years. Also, for the trillionth time, actual monetary payment for airplay solicitation is illegal. That doesn't mean there aren't other means for encouraging more airplay from radio stations, but money is never it. We all really need to get that idea out of our heads because all it does is foster arguments and unhealthy discussion.

Plus, not that I'm defending the lyrics here, but they're incredibly tame compared to what songs and artists have turned into hits as of late.

Lol Lost in the Fire is one of The Weeknd's greatest. It's a real shame that it isn't topping charts. Also, there is nothing wrong with the lyrics.

[Choco]

Jan 27, 2019 8:46:29 GMT -5 gabe said:

can all you apes shut up and bring it elsewhere

[Au$tin]

Jan 27, 2019 20:42:53 GMT -5 livelightning said:

Jan 27, 2019 19:30:02 GMT -5 Au$tin said:

??

Guys, it's brand new music from The Weeknd. Radio was going to eat that s**t up no matter if the song was absolutely terrible and failed to even make a dent on the charts. But, you know, it actually did make some waves on its debut despite of whatever backlash it's been getting. It absolutely will hit a brick wall if listeners aren't connecting with it, though. It has happened countless of times before, there isn't a reason why it wouldn't happen here as well. Only time will tell if this happens, though, because it is still #69 on iTunes, #32 on Spotify, and #96 on Apple Music. While that's nothing incredible, it is a sign that people are still interested 16 days after release. Radio is absolutely not out of touch or corrupt for supporting a brand new single from one of the hottest artists of the last few years. Also, for the trillionth time, actual monetary payment for airplay solicitation is illegal. That doesn't mean there aren't other means for encouraging more airplay from radio stations, but money is never it. We all really need to get that idea out of our heads because all it does is foster arguments and unhealthy discussion.

Plus, not that I'm defending the lyrics here, but they're incredibly tame compared to what songs and artists have turned into hits as of late.

Lol Lost in the Fire is one of The Weeknd's greatest. It's a real shame that it isn't topping charts. Also, there is nothing wrong with the lyrics.

The first part of your post is really just an opinion, so it really has no merit to this discussion, but the last part in bold there... I mean, I guess it's also an opinion, but if you seriously think a verse where he says he could have sex with a lesbian to "turn her straight" isn't problematic, then you really need to reevaluate your view on homosexuals. Also, again, none of this has anything to do with the actual discussion.

[livelightning]

Jan 27, 2019 20:48:07 GMT -5 Au$tin said:

Jan 27, 2019 20:42:53 GMT -5 livelightning said:

Lol Lost in the Fire is one of The Weeknd's greatest. It's a real shame that it isn't topping charts. Also, there is nothing wrong with the lyrics.

The first part of your post is really just an opinion, so it really has no merit to this discussion, but the last part in bold there... I mean, I guess it's also an opinion, but if you seriously think a verse where he says he could have sex with a lesbian to "turn her straight" isn't problematic, then you really need to reevaluate your view on homosexuals. Also, again, none of this has anything to do with the actual discussion.

I don't think it's problematic, and I don't need to reevaluate anything lol. It's just a completely fine flex. And I'm just giving my opinion since everyone else is giving theirs. 

[Au$tin]

Nope, not getting sucked into this.

[Deleted]

Jan 27, 2019 20:48:07 GMT -5 Au$tin said:

Jan 27, 2019 20:42:53 GMT -5 livelightning said:

Lol Lost in the Fire is one of The Weeknd's greatest. It's a real shame that it isn't topping charts. Also, there is nothing wrong with the lyrics.

The first part of your post is really just an opinion, so it really has no merit to this discussion, but the last part in bold there... I mean, I guess it's also an opinion, but if you seriously think a verse where he says he could have sex with a lesbian to "turn her straight" isn't problematic, then you really need to reevaluate your view on homosexuals. Also, again, none of this has anything to do with the actual discussion.

The girl wasn't a lesbian though, I thought it was obvious from the lyrics that she was Bi

[Choco]

Sure she's bi, at least that's what I got from context, but he wants to "turn her straight" which plays into the whole idea of bisexuality being a phase, something fun that girls do to turn guys on, etc...

I like the track but that line stands out for all the wrong reasons.

Also, for what is worth it's having a very nice start on radio. I think it'll end up as a nice hit for everyone involved but nothing groundbreaking (around top 15/20?). I think it's time for Abel to stop with these side projects and drop a proper studio album with some promotion. His streaming numbers with Starboy were amazing and he could really break this boring Drake/Post Malone domination cycle.

[Deleted]

Jan 27, 2019 23:46:02 GMT -5 Choco said:

Sure she's bi, at least that's what I got from context, but he wants to "turn her straight" which plays into the whole idea of bisexuality being a phase, something fun that girls do to turn guys on, etc...

I like the track but that line stands out for all the wrong reasons.

Also, for what is worth it's having a very nice start on radio. I think it'll end up as a nice hit for everyone involved but nothing groundbreaking (around top 15/20?).

I mean the lyric is she says she is going though a phase