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Post by jenglisbe on Jan 24, 2019 20:26:28 GMT -5
That's really impressive because "Always Be My Baby" peaked at #2 airplay for 10 weeks, but it ranked #1 in the 1996 year end chart (besting "Because You Loved Me" by Celine Dion which spent 14 weeks at #1!). So it's radio audience must have been crazy and it still gets a lot of recurrent play today. "ABMB" had more longevity than "BYLM." It debuted before "BYLM," got passed by it, but then ended up falling more slowly. So, that's how it was #1 year-end. I'd wager it's "We Belong Together." That one had more airplay at its peak, and it has a lot of recurrent play at a lot of formats. |
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Post by moonlite on Jan 24, 2019 20:29:55 GMT -5
Both the explicit and clean versions of Middle Child are top 5 on Apple Music at 1 and 5. When was the last time that happened?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2019 20:56:32 GMT -5
kworb.net/airadio/*** = Dropped or added a format Overall AI (Top 20) - 2019/01/24 1. (=) PANIC! AT THE DISCO - High Hopes (167.872) (-0.093) 2. (=) HALSEY - Without Me (148.517) (+0.931) 3. (=) ARIANA GRANDE - thank u, next (135.410) (+0.270) 8. (+1) POST MALONE & SWAE LEE - Sunflower (87.922) (+2.949) *** Without Me, thank u, next and Sunflower plz stop I have (high) hopes for High Hopes to be GLY 2.0, 16+ weeks at #1 |
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Post by dynamac on Jan 24, 2019 21:01:40 GMT -5
Both the explicit and clean versions of Middle Child are top 5 on Apple Music at 1 and 5. When was the last time that happened? In My Feelings did it I’m pretty sure |
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Post by tanooki on Jan 24, 2019 21:03:57 GMT -5
kworb.net/airadio/*** = Dropped or added a format Overall AI (Top 20) - 2019/01/24 1. (=) PANIC! AT THE DISCO - High Hopes (167.872) (-0.093) 2. (=) HALSEY - Without Me (148.517) (+0.931) 3. (=) ARIANA GRANDE - thank u, next (135.410) (+0.270) 8. (+1) POST MALONE & SWAE LEE - Sunflower (87.922) (+2.949) *** Without Me, thank u, next and Sunflower plz stop I have (high) hopes for High Hopes to be GLY 2.0, 16+ weeks at #1 this would be an acceptable scenario |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2019 21:07:05 GMT -5
This will be GLY's 30th week in top 10 of Radio Songs... And it's still top 5 and stable af What other songs this decade have past 25 weeks in Radio Songs' top 10? Does anyone here have a list? Shape of You holds the record (38 weeks), right? GLY's probably gonna break it at this pace. Did streaming era stabilize Radio Songs' chart runs too? |
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Post by brady47 on Jan 24, 2019 21:27:38 GMT -5
That's really impressive because "Always Be My Baby" peaked at #2 airplay for 10 weeks, but it ranked #1 in the 1996 year end chart (besting "Because You Loved Me" by Celine Dion which spent 14 weeks at #1!). So it's radio audience must have been crazy and it still gets a lot of recurrent play today. "ABMB" had more longevity than "BYLM." It debuted before "BYLM," got passed by it, but then ended up falling more slowly. So, that's how it was #1 year-end. I'd wager it's "We Belong Together." That one had more airplay at its peak, and it has a lot of recurrent play at a lot of formats. Yes, "ABMB" did have more longevity than "BYLM" but looking at their chart runs, I would've still thought "BYLM" would've taken the cake. ABMB - 12 weeks top 3, 22 weeks top 10, 31 weeks top 20 BYLM - 17 weeks top 3, 23 weeks top 10, 29 weeks top 20 Always Be My Baby: 51-30-16-7-7-4-3-4-*2*-2-2-2-2-2-2-2-2-2-3-4-5-5-5-5-8-11-13-14-17-16-20-19-18-27-25-24-23-26-31 Because You Loved Me: 68-36-13-5-2-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-4-3-3-4-6-8-11-10-11-12-16-18-21-26 |
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Post by kingvavis on Jan 24, 2019 21:35:04 GMT -5
I hope Middle Child can be J Cole's Humble which would get him a number one.
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Post by owenlovesmusic on Jan 24, 2019 21:36:55 GMT -5
I hope Middle Child can be J Cole's Humble which would get him a number one. that we be good |
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Post by Ｓｏｕｎｄｃｌ🕤ｃｋ on Jan 24, 2019 21:40:10 GMT -5
Seriously, GLY is fucking annoying right now. I always laughed at Pulse's reaction when it was #1, now it's not funny anymore...
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Post by owenlovesmusic on Jan 24, 2019 22:09:42 GMT -5
I'm, team GLY atp lol
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Post by jayhawk1117 on Jan 24, 2019 22:10:38 GMT -5
I'm here for history being made lol. So keep on slaying GLY
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Post by jenglisbe on Jan 24, 2019 22:20:07 GMT -5
"ABMB" had more longevity than "BYLM." It debuted before "BYLM," got passed by it, but then ended up falling more slowly. So, that's how it was #1 year-end. I'd wager it's "We Belong Together." That one had more airplay at its peak, and it has a lot of recurrent play at a lot of formats. Yes, "ABMB" did have more longevity than "BYLM" but looking at their chart runs, I would've still thought "BYLM" would've taken the cake. ABMB - 12 weeks top 3, 22 weeks top 10, 31 weeks top 20 BYLM - 17 weeks top 3, 23 weeks top 10, 29 weeks top 20 Always Be My Baby: 51-30-16-7-7-4-3-4-*2*-2-2-2-2-2-2-2-2-2-3-4-5-5-5-5-8-11-13-14-17-16-20-19-18-27-25-24-23-26-31 Because You Loved Me: 68-36-13-5-2-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-4-3-3-4-6-8-11-10-11-12-16-18-21-26 So, "ABMB" also had 4 more weeks outside the top 20 than "BYLM." If we've learned anything, it's that longevity often counts more than peak. |
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Post by hot100predictions on Jan 24, 2019 22:32:25 GMT -5
Hope Middle Child charts well
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Post by hot100predictions on Jan 24, 2019 22:32:56 GMT -5
Hope Middle Child charts well Kinda like it tbh, and it's doing well so.... top 5 debut next week (2/9) ?? |
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Post by Gary on Jan 24, 2019 23:25:29 GMT -5
This will be GLY's 30th week in top 10 of Radio Songs... And it's still top 5 and stable af What other songs this decade have past 25 weeks in Radio Songs' top 10? Does anyone here have a list? Shape of You holds the record (38 weeks), right? GLY's probably gonna break it at this pace. Did streaming era stabilize Radio Songs' chart runs too? The leaders Shape Of You, Ed Sheeran 38 Torn, Natalie Imbruglia 32 Truly Madly Deeply, Savage Garden 29 Perfect, Ed Sheeran 29 Iris, Goo Goo Dolls 29 Girls Like You, Maroon 5 Featuring Cardi B 29 Smooth, Santana Featuring Rob Thomas 28 No One, Alicia Keys 28 Missing, Everything But The Girl 28 |
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Post by brady47 on Jan 24, 2019 23:34:46 GMT -5
Yes, "ABMB" did have more longevity than "BYLM" but looking at their chart runs, I would've still thought "BYLM" would've taken the cake. ABMB - 12 weeks top 3, 22 weeks top 10, 31 weeks top 20 BYLM - 17 weeks top 3, 23 weeks top 10, 29 weeks top 20 Always Be My Baby: 51-30-16-7-7-4-3-4-*2*-2-2-2-2-2-2-2-2-2-3-4-5-5-5-5-8-11-13-14-17-16-20-19-18-27-25-24-23-26-31 Because You Loved Me: 68-36-13-5-2-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-4-3-3-4-6-8-11-10-11-12-16-18-21-26 So, "ABMB" also had 4 more weeks outside the top 20 than "BYLM." If we've learned anything, it's that longevity often counts more than peak. Not really - I'd say it's more 50/50. Ex: "Irreplaceable" being the year end #1 for 2007 despite having part of it's chart run cut off and "Umbrella" had more "longevity" and I'm sure there's more examples. |
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Post by brady47 on Jan 24, 2019 23:36:06 GMT -5
This will be GLY's 30th week in top 10 of Radio Songs... And it's still top 5 and stable af What other songs this decade have past 25 weeks in Radio Songs' top 10? Does anyone here have a list? Shape of You holds the record (38 weeks), right? GLY's probably gonna break it at this pace. Did streaming era stabilize Radio Songs' chart runs too? The leaders Torn, Natalie Imbruglia 32 Ah "Torn" was such a monster, that song is timeless. Basically held the record for 20 years. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2019 1:01:52 GMT -5
The leaders Shape Of You, Ed Sheeran 38 Torn, Natalie Imbruglia 32 Truly Madly Deeply, Savage Garden 29 Perfect, Ed Sheeran 29 Iris, Goo Goo Dolls 29 Girls Like You, Maroon 5 Featuring Cardi B 29 Smooth, Santana Featuring Rob Thomas 28 No One, Alicia Keys 28 Missing, Everything But The Girl 28 I'm wondering where did you get the information from? I see you usually have quite some comprehensive lists. Do you use a website or do you have a database for Billboard charts? |
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Post by 85la on Jan 25, 2019 1:26:58 GMT -5
That's crazy how long it took for R&B to be added. Imagine how much bigger "One Sweet Day" or "The Boy Is Mine" or even TLC hits would've been. It makes airplay hits like "Always Be My Baby" even more impressive (year end #1 airplay song of 1996).
Aside from its consistently high sales at the time also, what else do you think helped it garner 13 weeks at #1 on the Hot 100? Ironically, although popular of course, “One Sweet Day” wasn’t as big nor omnipresent on the R&B charts/R&B airplay compared to Carey’s other Daydream era hits aka. “Fantasy” and “Always Be My Baby”. In fact, it was much bigger on Pop/Rhythmic Top 40/AC. br] “Always Be My Baby” was facing competition from Bone-Thugs-Harmony’s, “Tha Crossroads”, Tupac’s “How Do You Want It/California Love” and Toni Braxton’s “You’re Makin’ Me High”, but still managed to stay in the top ten of the R&B airplay chart for several months where most other hits were falling. That song was huge, as was the “Fantasy” (Remix) with Ol’ Dirty Bastard. Actually The Boy Is Mine's run occurred before R&B airplay was added to the overall Hot 100 panel (it's run was roughly from the spring to early fall 1998; R&B airplay, along with all formats, wasn't added until November 1998, the first week of Billboard's 1999 chart year). So I'm not sure if it would've gotten more weeks at No. 1, but the 13 weeks certainly would have been stronger. On the 1998 year-end, Too Close beat TBIM for #1, but it probably would have remained at the top because that was also an R&B song. I'm not quite sure where you're getting your stats from actually, because in terms of Mariah's Daydream singles, they all did comparatively well on R&B airplay, as well as the 3 major formats (Pop/Urban/Rhythmic). Fantasy was #1 on R&B Airplay, OSD actually out-peaked ABMB at #2, and ABMB was #3; on the year-end R&B Airplay chart I think ABMB placed slightly higher than OSD, #15 vs. #18 or something like that, but I would call both of those placements considerably high. I would also not call Mariah a core-R&B/crossover-pop artist. She seems to be mainly a core pop artist with heavy R&B crossover elements, or at least she is promoted as being this way. Regardless, she definitely is a rare artist in that during the 90s and 2000s, she did extremely well on all the major formats (Pop/Urban/Rhythmic, and AC as well). In terms of singles performance, she nearly or already has done as well as Elvis or the Beatles, but if R&B play were included in the Hot 100 in the 90s, she possibly would have been even bigger. |
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Post by imbondz on Jan 25, 2019 5:25:11 GMT -5
If love to know how much a #1 song makes $ in a given week. How much money does this bring in? In projecting partial-week data, "7 Rings," released on Republic Records, could launch with over 70 million U.S. streams, 20 million in airplay audience and 80,000 downloads sold, placing it in line to arrive as the most-streamed and most-sold song of the week. Anyone have any idea? HDD has a "Song Revenue Chart" but it counts only on-demand streams and sales. hitsdailydouble.com/song_revenue_chartThat’s awesome. Thanks! |
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Post by Gary on Jan 25, 2019 8:54:20 GMT -5
The leaders Shape Of You, Ed Sheeran 38 Torn, Natalie Imbruglia 32 Truly Madly Deeply, Savage Garden 29 Perfect, Ed Sheeran 29 Iris, Goo Goo Dolls 29 Girls Like You, Maroon 5 Featuring Cardi B 29 Smooth, Santana Featuring Rob Thomas 28 No One, Alicia Keys 28 Missing, Everything But The Girl 28 I'm wondering where did you get the information from? I see you usually have quite some comprehensive lists. Do you use a website or do you have a database for Billboard charts? The data is billboard.biz Many of the charts I post each week get pasted into my own database I compile my own lists in most cases. If Billboard generates lists also, I have been making a separate thread for that and updating it as we go |
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Post by jenglisbe on Jan 25, 2019 9:03:10 GMT -5
So, "ABMB" also had 4 more weeks outside the top 20 than "BYLM." If we've learned anything, it's that longevity often counts more than peak. Not really - I'd say it's more 50/50. Ex: "Irreplaceable" being the year end #1 for 2007 despite having part of it's chart run cut off and "Umbrella" had more "longevity" and I'm sure there's more examples. I used the word “often,” not every... |
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Post by MoD on Jan 25, 2019 9:04:26 GMT -5
Random but breathin deserved that #1. It's a loooooooot better than 7 rings
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Post by fhas on Jan 25, 2019 9:30:34 GMT -5
I hope Middle Child can be J Cole's Humble which would get him a number one. Cole debuts at #1 on US Spotify with 3,695,130 streams (#1 on AM + iTunes). The first "great" song of the year, imo. Also... No Role Modelz (2014) is #122 with 309,181. Classic. |
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Post by imbondz on Jan 25, 2019 9:37:55 GMT -5
Just reading this thread now Always Be My Baby is stuck in my head.
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kworb.net/airadio/*** = Dropped or added a format Overall AI (Top 20) - 2019/01/25 1. (=) PANIC! AT THE DISCO - High Hopes (167.157) (-0.715) 2. (=) HALSEY - Without Me (149.218) (+0.701) 3. (=) ARIANA GRANDE - thank u, next (135.476) (+0.066) 4. (=) MARSHMELLO - Happier f/Bastille (131.245) (-0.934) 5. (=) MAROON 5 - Girls Like You (104.661) (+0.164) 6. (=) ARIANA GRANDE - Breathin (96.996) (-2.601) 7. (=) BENNY BLANCO, HALSEY & KHALID - Eastside (95.137) (+1.431) 8. (=) POST MALONE & SWAE LEE - Sunflower (86.172) (-1.750) *** 9. (=) TRAVIS SCOTT - Sicko Mode (85.360) (-0.341) 10. (=) 5 SECONDS OF SUMMER - Youngblood (76.949) (-0.330) 11. (=) KHALID X NORMANI - Love Lies (64.827) (-0.433) 12. (=) BAD BUNNY - MIA f/Drake (64.694) (-0.297) 13. (+2) ELLIE GOULDING X DIPLO - Close To Me f/Swae Lee (62.176) (+0.576) 14. (-1) DJ SNAKE/SELENA/OZUNA/CARDI B - Taki Taki (61.979) (+0.070) 15. (-1) POST MALONE - Better Now (61.163) (-0.647) 16. (+1) DIERKS BENTLEY - Burning Man f/Brothers Osborne (60.879) (+0.808) 17. (+1) JASON ALDEAN - Girl Like You (60.682) (+0.790) 18. (-2) THOMAS RHETT - Sixteen (60.118) (-1.299) 19. (+1) DAN + SHAY - Tequila (59.765) (+0.727) 20. (-1) KODAK BLACK - Zeze f/Travis Scott & Offset (59.661) (+0.412) Others: 26. (=) CARDI B - Money (51.395) (+0.602) 35. (=) FLIPP DINERO - Leave Me Alone (45.806) (+0.972) 41. (+1) POST MALONE - Wow (39.485) (+0.889) 42. (+9) ARIANA GRANDE - 7 Rings (39.297) (+5.344) 43. (+1) JORDAN DAVIS - Take It From Me (39.045) (+0.842) 46. (+1) GESAFFELSTEIN & THE WEEKND - Lost In The Fire (38.121) (+0.842) *** 48. (-5) CAMILA CABELLO - Consequences (37.091) (-1.427) 51. (-1) LUKE COMBS - Beautiful Crazy (35.930) (+0.865) 60. (-4) SILK CITY F/DIPLO/MARK RONSON - Electricity f/Dua Lipa (31.890) (-1.292)
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2019 11:22:08 GMT -5
Only if Cole released Middle Child @ the start of the tracking week, a Top 10 debut would have seemed likely. Let’s just hope it holds 🙏
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Post by brady47 on Jan 25, 2019 13:09:11 GMT -5
Not really - I'd say it's more 50/50. Ex: "Irreplaceable" being the year end #1 for 2007 despite having part of it's chart run cut off and "Umbrella" had more "longevity" and I'm sure there's more examples. I used the word “often,” not every... And I disagreed with the word "often" and never said "every" so... |
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Post by kcdawg13 on Jan 25, 2019 17:14:43 GMT -5
Do you know how nice Girls Like You sounds after a long day of work and a huge migraine, driving home and listening to it last summer was like therapy. Idk why. It was just kind of soothing and dull, which is why people hate it but it was nice.
I still like the song, and I like history so I cannot wait for it to break SOY's record.
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