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Post by hot100predictions on Feb 3, 2019 19:16:35 GMT -5
What the hell does this have to do with this week's Billboard chart. Katy and Nicki both flop on the charts, Ari, Camila and Taylor are the only successful female artists right now.
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Post by Naos on Feb 3, 2019 19:30:28 GMT -5
What the hell does this have to do with this week's Billboard chart. Katy and Nicki both flop on the charts, Ari, Camila and Taylor are the only successful female artists right now. Halsey? Cardi B? Ella Mai? Camila just flopped. I'd say Billie Eilish is doing better than her at the moment. |
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Post by 𝓲𝓽'𝓼.𝓰𝓿 on Feb 3, 2019 19:51:10 GMT -5
February 7, 200901 97 My Life Would Suck Without You - Kelly Clarkson (1st of 2 weeks at #1)02 01 Just Dance - Lady Gaga feat. Colby O'Donis 03 02 Single Ladies (Put a Ring On It) - Beyonce 04 03 Heartless - Kanye West 05 05 Love Story - Taylor Swift 06 06 Gives You Hell - The All-American Rejects 07 04 Live Your Life - T.I. feat. Rihanna 08 16 You Found Me - The Fray 09 10 Circus - Britney Spears 10 07 I'm Yours - Jason Mraz The iconic Top 10 where the biggest jump to #1 happened. |
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Post by iHype. on Feb 3, 2019 19:56:59 GMT -5
That is weak logic, because Katy is a bigger streaming artist than Nicki Minaj is. More streams on YouTube/VEVO, Spotify, etc. So surely, streaming wouldn't be 'unfair' to her. Her era was just such a colossal underperformance that it even did terrible on streaming mostly. More streams overall... but what about the streaming era? Her high numbers in streaming is older hits, not recent material. And YouTube/VEVO don't contribute to albums anyway. The same applies with Nicki though? You're acting as if Queen broke streaming records. Her previous album has more streams on every platform. And even if you still somehow want to cling to pure sales in 2019, PRISM: 1.73 million Witness: 300K = 83% decline Pinkprint: 750K Queen: 160K = 79% decline Katy still had the bigger decline between releases. That is a weak example, because Katy is a bigger streaming artist than Nicki Minaj is. More streams on YouTube/VEVO, Spotify, etc. So surely, using streaming to compare wouldn't be 'unfair' to her. Her era was just such a colossal underperformance that it even did terrible on streaming. How did it do terribly on streaming if the first 3 singles have all passed 500m on Youtube? Combined with Spotify and Apple Music, they're probably near billion streams each. Spotify (Nov 2018)Swish Swish 255,408,686 Chained to the Rhythm 372,871,351 Bon appétit 164,222,603 Feels 563,500,563 Youtube (Current)Swish Swish 519 + 85 + 85m Chained to the Rhythm 554 + 85m Bon appétit 613 + 21m Feels 453 + 28m Roar has more views than the entire Witness era combined. Dark Horse has more views than the entire Witness era combined. She has multiple songs from her previous album that each have more streams alone than Witness does combined. It did horrible in streams for her standards. Til this day, Roar/Dark Horse still get more daily views than all Witness singles combined. Witness fell under the radar for her on streaming. |
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Post by jenglisbe on Feb 3, 2019 20:00:24 GMT -5
Very good - Pentatonix (which you originally brought up) is an album act anyway Holiday singles or non-holiday singles or lack thereof is not what they do I think your standom is blinding you. Can we please follow the point here? Someone used Katy Perry having a holiday song do relatively well as evidence she is still relevant. My point was to say there are other acts whose holiday songs do well, but that doesn't make them relevant to the Hot 100 with non-holiday singles. Pentatonix was an example for me because they had "Mary Did You Know?" and "Hallelujah" make the 20s on the Hot 100, but their non-holiday songs (like "Can't Sleep Now" or whatever it was called) haven't done nearly as well. All I was saying is holiday singles can't really be used as examples of how someone's non-holiday singles will do. I'm sorry if that hurt your Pentatonix heart. |
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Post by Gary on Feb 3, 2019 20:01:54 GMT -5
Nearly two years since Katy Perry's last lead artist big hit but she has been mentioned 59 times in this thread
Not bad for a past-her-prime artist
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Post by kierz7 on Feb 3, 2019 20:04:45 GMT -5
Nearly two years since Katy Perry's last lead artist big hit but she has been mentioned 59 times in this thread Not bad for a past-her-prime artist 59 times? Did you really count how many times she’s been mentioned in this thread? LMFAO! Ok, Girl. |
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Post by Gary on Feb 3, 2019 20:05:44 GMT -5
Very good - Pentatonix (which you originally brought up) is an album act anyway Holiday singles or non-holiday singles or lack thereof is not what they do I think your standom is blinding you. Can we please follow the point here? Someone used Katy Perry having a holiday song do relatively well as evidence she is still relevant. My point was to say there are other acts whose holiday songs do well, but that doesn't make them relevant to the Hot 100 with non-holiday singles. Pentatonix was an example for me because they had "Mary Did You Know?" and "Hallelujah" make the 20s on the Hot 100, but their non-holiday songs (like "Can't Sleep Now" or whatever it was called) haven't done nearly as well. All I was saying is holiday singles can't really be used as examples of how someone's non-holiday singles will do. I'm sorry if that hurt your Pentatonix heart. We were discussing Pentatonix albums because you had pointed out lack of non-holiday singles You then reminded everyone this is a Hot 100 thread and not an album thread My point - congratulations - yes - this is a Hot 100 thread |
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Feb 3, 2019 20:13:05 GMT -5
I'm confused as to why Katy and Nicki have dominated pages of discussion over how floppy their last albums were. In both cases, their most recent albums were significant drops to previous albums. Does it really matter much beyond that? Someone said Katy's flop was among the biggest of all time. Maybe but not really? I still say Nelly Furtado's The Spirit Indestructible was more of a head scratcher. In more recent years, Miley's Younger Now comes to mind. Witness was doomed once it became associated as being a flop, which was a label it picked up almost days into the release of Chained To The Rhythm. Did it do poorly? Yeah, it did, especially compared to Prism, which in itself was a drop from Teenage Dream. I'm not even sure what the rest of the argument is about.
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Post by Naos on Feb 3, 2019 20:13:52 GMT -5
Very good - Pentatonix (which you originally brought up) is an album act anyway Holiday singles or non-holiday singles or lack thereof is not what they do I think your standom is blinding you. Can we please follow the point here? Someone used Katy Perry having a holiday song do relatively well as evidence she is still relevant. My point was to say there are other acts whose holiday songs do well, but that doesn't make them relevant to the Hot 100 with non-holiday singles. Pentatonix was an example for me because they had "Mary Did You Know?" and "Hallelujah" make the 20s on the Hot 100, but their non-holiday songs (like "Can't Sleep Now" or whatever it was called) haven't done nearly as well. All I was saying is holiday singles can't really be used as examples of how someone's non-holiday singles will do. I'm sorry if that hurt your Pentatonix heart. Because again, they don't push their songs on radio or streaming. How delusional can you be to compare them? Katy Perry gets radio play and major streaming placement. Pentatonix do not get that same support. And I repeat, they still have three singles going Gold despite this lack of support from their label. Your "point" holds approximately zero weight. |
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Post by hot100predictions on Feb 3, 2019 20:26:21 GMT -5
I won't be expecting anything to chart or re-enter from that halftime show, was absolute trash.
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Post by jenglisbe on Feb 3, 2019 20:31:27 GMT -5
I think your standom is blinding you. Can we please follow the point here? Someone used Katy Perry having a holiday song do relatively well as evidence she is still relevant. My point was to say there are other acts whose holiday songs do well, but that doesn't make them relevant to the Hot 100 with non-holiday singles. Pentatonix was an example for me because they had "Mary Did You Know?" and "Hallelujah" make the 20s on the Hot 100, but their non-holiday songs (like "Can't Sleep Now" or whatever it was called) haven't done nearly as well. All I was saying is holiday singles can't really be used as examples of how someone's non-holiday singles will do. I'm sorry if that hurt your Pentatonix heart. We were discussing Pentatonix albums because you had pointed out lack of non-holiday singlesYou then reminded everyone this is a Hot 100 thread and not an album thread My point - congratulations - yes - this is a Hot 100 thread Right, and I had to bring it back to singles. Naos brought up albums here. I wasn't the one talking about albums. You two seem to be taking this as some diss of Pentatonix so you are refuting points that weren't even made. |
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Post by Naos on Feb 3, 2019 20:40:12 GMT -5
We were discussing Pentatonix albums because you had pointed out lack of non-holiday singlesYou then reminded everyone this is a Hot 100 thread and not an album thread My point - congratulations - yes - this is a Hot 100 thread Right, and I had to bring it back to singles. Naos brought up albums here. I wasn't the one talking about albums. You two seem to be taking this as some diss of Pentatonix so you are refuting points that weren't even made. And using singles for an A CAPPELLA act who almost never go to radio or get put on streaming playlists, is not a fair comparison. You have to compare Katy Perry to an artist that can get airplay and streaming. RCA does not give any support to Pentatonix's pop work, so you cannot use them as a comparison. |
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Post by Gary on Feb 3, 2019 20:43:24 GMT -5
We were discussing Pentatonix albums because you had pointed out lack of non-holiday singlesYou then reminded everyone this is a Hot 100 thread and not an album thread My point - congratulations - yes - this is a Hot 100 thread Right, and I had to bring it back to singles. Naos brought up albums here. I wasn't the one talking about albums. You two seem to be taking this as some diss of Pentatonix so you are refuting points that weren't even made. Ugh. As you wanted to talk about Pentatonix singles. It seemed natural to discuss the albums since there weren’t a lot of singles. FYI- In any case Katy Perry and Pentatonix, the stars of this weeks thread, neither are current singles artists. As you wanted to point out to us that this is a not an the Billboard 200 and is actually the Hof 100 and you want to keep pointing it out. Yes you are correct, Pentatonix albums(singles too for that matter) are off topic. Congratulations you win a cookie. LOL |
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Post by iHype. on Feb 3, 2019 20:48:37 GMT -5
It's not hard to understand jenglisbe 's point. Success with a Holiday single/album/whatever doesn't equal success with a non-Holiday single/album/whatever. A better example is literally Michael Buble's career post his Christmas album. It even came back to outlive his new album released last year. |
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Post by Naos on Feb 3, 2019 20:51:31 GMT -5
It's not hard to understand jenglisbe 's point. Success with a Holiday single/album/whatever doesn't equal success with a non-Holiday single/album/whatever. A better example is literally Michael Buble's career post his Christmas album. It even came back to outlive his new album released last year. That album got six digits in the first week. But the pure sales can only last so long. Buble's Christmas album only stuck around because he was everywhere on the Christmas playlists. His "point" when comparing Pentatonix does not work. Or even Buble, for that matter. They aren't pop stars, at least not in the same way. |
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Post by iHype. on Feb 3, 2019 21:17:35 GMT -5
It's not hard to understand jenglisbe 's point. Success with a Holiday single/album/whatever doesn't equal success with a non-Holiday single/album/whatever. A better example is literally Michael Buble's career post his Christmas album. It even came back to outlive his new album released last year. That album got six digits in the first week. But the pure sales can only last so long. Buble's Christmas album only stuck around because he was everywhere on the Christmas playlists. His "point" when comparing Pentatonix does not work. Or even Buble, for that matter. They aren't pop stars, at least not in the same way. I'm very envious of how one person can live in their own world so easily. |
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Post by dovahduck on Feb 4, 2019 1:11:59 GMT -5
Anyway... How do you all think the Superbowl Halftime Show and 21 Savage's recent incarceration will affect the charts?
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Post by Choco on Feb 4, 2019 1:44:48 GMT -5
Anyway... How do you all think the Superbowl Halftime Show and 21 Savage's recent incarceration will affect the charts? 21 savage: not much. He ain't that big of a name. SB: modest bump for Sicko Mode, big one for GLY, none of the old tracks re-enter. |
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Post by dynamac on Feb 4, 2019 3:35:32 GMT -5
Lmao there’s now a push to make SICKO MODE the most disliked video on youtube, so the internet could be inadvertently running up his streams atm.
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Post by korbel16 on Feb 4, 2019 3:45:22 GMT -5
Worst halftime show of the modern era.....
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2019 4:16:52 GMT -5
The “Witness” era remains one of the biggest flops of all-time across all platforms and it is certainly the biggest commercial failure (released by an alleged ‘A-list’ artist this decade) of the streaming era thus far. That's... false. There are literally albums from A-listers that failed to do half of Witness did. Witness sucks, I agree, but wow at this blatantly ignorant history rewriting to make you feel better about not liking an album or artist I guess? I can't think of any other reason to make up absolutely ridiculous statements like this. If they can't do half of what Witness did they aren't excatly A-listers now are they |
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Post by renaboss on Feb 4, 2019 6:19:56 GMT -5
I was enjoying the half-time show until some rapper came out of a fireball to sing a song I don't know. But overall it was pretty lukewarm.
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Post by #LisaRinna on Feb 4, 2019 7:33:01 GMT -5
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Post by Golden Bluebird on Feb 4, 2019 9:18:13 GMT -5
kworb.net/airadio/*** = Dropped or added a format Overall AI (Top 20) - 2019/02/04 1. (=) PANIC! AT THE DISCO - High Hopes (160.729) (+0.058) 2. (=) HALSEY - Without Me (152.767) (-0.590) 3. (=) ARIANA GRANDE - thank u, next (132.910) (-0.355) 4. (=) MARSHMELLO - Happier f/Bastille (127.208) (+0.275) 5. (=) BENNY BLANCO, HALSEY & KHALID - Eastside (112.995) (+1.071) 6. (=) MAROON 5 - Girls Like You (100.543) (-0.467) 7. (=) POST MALONE & SWAE LEE - Sunflower (95.552) (+0.854) 8. (=) TRAVIS SCOTT - Sicko Mode (84.314) (+0.570) 9. (=) ARIANA GRANDE - Breathin (79.220) (-0.845) 10. (=) 5 SECONDS OF SUMMER - Youngblood (73.117) (+0.107) 11. (=) ELLIE GOULDING X DIPLO - Close To Me f/Swae Lee (69.266) (+0.413) 12. (=) DAN + SHAY - Tequila (64.601) (+0.132) 13. (=) JASON ALDEAN - Girl Like You (63.436) (-0.406) 14. (=) BAD BUNNY - MIA f/Drake (61.271) (+0.188) 15. (=) KHALID X NORMANI - Love Lies (60.196) (-0.667) 16. (+1) SCOTTY MCCREERY - This Is It (60.071) (+0.534) 17. (-1) KODAK BLACK - Zeze f/Travis Scott & Offset (59.912) (+0.138) 18. (+2) ARIANA GRANDE - 7 Rings (58.965) (+2.850) 19. (-1) POST MALONE - Better Now (58.564) (+0.096) 20. (+1) CARDI B - Money (56.452) (+0.395) Others: 21. (+2) KHALID - Better (56.144) (+1.276) 27. (+2) POST MALONE - Wow (50.141) (+0.544) 34. (+1) LUKE COMBS - Beautiful Crazy (46.425) (+1.143) 36. (=) GESAFFELSTEIN & THE WEEKND - Lost In The Fire (45.915) (+1.073) 40. (+1) DEAN LEWIS - Be Alright (43.861) (+0.589) 42. (+1) THE CHAINSMOKERS F/KELSEA BALLERINI - This Feeling (43.288) (+0.709) *** 45. (=) CHRIS STAPLETON - Millionaire (40.418) (+0.557) 51. (+3) SAM SMITH & NORMANI - Dancing With A Stranger (35.183) (+1.787) 61. (-11) LADY GAGA & BRADLEY COOPER - Shallow (31.832) (-5.117) *** 69. (+1) MEEK MILL - Going Bad f/Drake (28.852) (+0.668) 70. (+3) AVA MAX - Sweet But Psycho (28.480) (+0.637) 72. (+5) BRETT YOUNG - Here Tonight (27.829) (+0.622)
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Post by Ｓｏｕｎｄｃｌ🕤ｃｋ on Feb 4, 2019 9:45:44 GMT -5
Eastside!!!!! I thought the song was dead 4 months ago, so fucking deserving. Hope it's in the top 10 this week.
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Post by fhas on Feb 4, 2019 9:51:50 GMT -5
Final Predictions --- TOP 10 --- February 9, 2019
| 1 | (=) | 7 rings | 44,800 | (-34%) | | 2 | (+24) | MIDDLE CHILD | 41,900 | (+235%) | | 3 | (-1) | Without Me | 39,500 | (-6%) | | 4 | (-1) | Sunflower | 38,600 | (-4%) | | 5 | (-1) | thank u, next | 29,500 | (-10%) | | 6 | (-1) | SICKO MODE | 28,600 | (-4%) | | 7 | (-1) | High Hopes | 28,300 | (-4%) | | 8 | (-1) | Happier | 27,500 | (-2%) | | 9 | (-1) | Wow. | 22,800 | (+2%) | | 10 | (+1) | Eastside | 21,100 | (+1%) |
Others (Not necessarily 11-18):
| Girls Like You | 20,600 | | Drip Too Hard | 19,900 | | Money | 18,200 | | ZEZE | 18,100 | | Wake Up in the Sky | 16,200 | | Better Now | 15,300 | | Youngblood | 14,900 | | Mo Bamba | 14,500 |
7 rings 45k sales + 42.1M airplay + 56.4M streams
MIDDLE CHILD 26k sales + 8.3M airplay + 59.1M streams
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Post by Enigma. on Feb 4, 2019 11:18:26 GMT -5
Very interesting to see if GLY is finally done on radio after the big backlash.
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Post by Gary on Feb 4, 2019 11:20:57 GMT -5
Or the increased exposure from yesterday
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Post by jayhawk1117 on Feb 4, 2019 12:48:46 GMT -5
Very interesting to see if GLY is finally done on radio after the big backlash. the backlash might as well be Stan twitter backlash lol. |
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