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Post by brady47 on Feb 17, 2019 14:01:19 GMT -5
Billboard Top 10 from 35, 30, 25, and 20 years ago: February 25, 198401 02 Jump - Van Halen (1st of 5 weeks at #1)02 01 Karma Chameleon - Culture Club 03 04 99 Luftballons - Nena 04 09 Girls Just Want To Have Fun - Cyndi Lauper 05 07 Thriller - Michael Jackson Iconic af Girls Just Wanna Have Fun is probably one of the biggest 80s classics. |
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Post by Ｓｏｕｎｄｃｌ🕤ｃｋ on Feb 17, 2019 14:15:48 GMT -5
Drake SpotifyI don't deny Drake's streaming power, but this was pretty..............absurd. People were forced to listen to him. He pulled bigger streams on Apple Music than Spotify, that only lasted 2~ days out of his first week, and many of those just had a picture of him but no music on the playlist. "Spotify put the album on nearly 30 of its largest playlists as part of its first ever global artist takeover, which resulted in Scorpion being streamed 10 million times per hour." Yeah, you're right. He was streamed more on Apple, but you can't deny that this thing on Spotify was absurd. |
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Post by thegreatdivine on Feb 17, 2019 14:21:08 GMT -5
People in industry and fans put too much emphasis on debut week sales. Yeah, they're important, but not as much as staying power imo. This. And it's becoming more and more obvious as we go deeper into the streaming era. reputation is a perfect example of this: MASSIVE debut figures, but lagged shortly after because it couldn't keep going on the streaming end of things. Scorpion debuted with lower figures, but it has already moved more album equivalent units in the US and worldwide. |
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Post by thegreatdivine on Feb 17, 2019 14:22:51 GMT -5
He pulled bigger streams on Apple Music than Spotify, that only lasted 2~ days out of his first week, and many of those just had a picture of him but no music on the playlist. "Spotify put the album on nearly 30 of its largest playlists as part of its first ever global artist takeover, which resulted in Scorpion being streamed 10 million times per hour." Yeah, you're right. He was streamed more on Apple, but you can't deny that this thing on Spotify was absurd. It was absurd, but like the font you quoted said, in a lot of those playlists, there weren't any actual Drake songs - most of them just featured his face on the cover of those playlists and if you're insinuating that he somehow ever needed that boost from Spotify, you'd be widely mistaken considering the fact that Drake has been setting/breaking records on Spotify/Apple Music since 2015. He was always gonna pull massive numbers regardless. I also think it's inaccurate to say people were "forced" to listen to him. Spotify playlist placements function much like banners on iTunes. It increases visibility, yes, but people ALWAYS have a choice on clicking to engage or not. You can't "force" anyone to stream a song/album they don't wanna stream. |
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Post by fhas on Feb 17, 2019 16:08:54 GMT -5
Final Predictions --- TOP 10 --- February 23, 2019
| 1 | (=) | 7 rings | 51,000 | (+12%) | | 2 | (NEW) | break up with your girlfriend, i'm bored | 41,900 |
| | 3 | (=) | Without Me | 38,900 | (+2%) | | 4 | (=) | Sunflower | 36,200 | (-3%) | | 5 | (-3) | Happier | 35,500 | (-14%) | | 6 | (+1) | thank u, next | 33,200 | (+23%) | | 7 | (-2) | SICKO MODE | 30,300 | (-6%) | | 8 | (-2) | High Hopes | 26,000 | (-5%) | | 9 | (=) | Wow. | 25,300 | (+4%) | | 10 | (+1) | Eastside | 23,200 | (+7%) |
Others (Not necessarily 11-20):
| Girls Like You | 22,000 | (-9%) | | Going Bad | 21,500 | (+17%) | | MIDDLE CHILD | 20,600 | (-19%) | | a lot | 20,300 | (-3%) | | needy | 19,800 |
| | NASA | 19,400 |
| | Drip Too Hard | 19,400 | (-4%) | | Money | 17,700 | (-2%) | | bloodline | 17,500 |
| | Thotiana | 17,400 | (+13%) |
7 rings 45k sales + 60.6M airplay + 61.3M streams
break up with your girlfriend, i'm bored 35k sales + 14.0M airplay + 58.7M streams
Using 307M on-demand streams and 228k SEA for Ariana's album.
Not really sure about Happier. The official video actually gained streams this week, but the Fortnite video is plummeting.
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Post by pnobelysk on Feb 17, 2019 16:13:22 GMT -5
People in industry and fans put too much emphasis on debut week sales. Yeah, they're important, but not as much as staying power imo. This. And it's becoming more and more obvious as we go deeper into the streaming era. reputation is a perfect example of this: MASSIVE debut figures, but lagged shortly after because it couldn't keep going on the streaming end of things. Scorpion debuted with lower figures, but it has already moved more album equivalent units in the US and worldwide. $$ wise though does Taylor’s 2.2 million pure sales plus streams end up with more profit than drakes 300k sales plus streams |
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Post by korbel16 on Feb 17, 2019 16:45:38 GMT -5
Will this be the first time a woman took up the top 2 spots since Taylor Swift
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Post by owenlovesmusic on Feb 17, 2019 16:48:41 GMT -5
Will this be the first time a woman took up the top 2 spots since Taylor Swift No. Iggy Azalea last had it with “Fancy” and “Problem” in 2014. |
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Post by Caviar on Feb 17, 2019 16:56:01 GMT -5
Ariana is doing it SOLO!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2019 17:01:03 GMT -5
Will this be the first time a woman took up the top 2 spots since Taylor Swift When did Taylor do it |
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Post by iHype. on Feb 17, 2019 17:19:50 GMT -5
This. And it's becoming more and more obvious as we go deeper into the streaming era. reputation is a perfect example of this: MASSIVE debut figures, but lagged shortly after because it couldn't keep going on the streaming end of things. Scorpion debuted with lower figures, but it has already moved more album equivalent units in the US and worldwide. $$ wise though does Taylor’s 2.2 million pure sales plus streams end up with more profit than drakes 300k sales plus streams Streams are counted relative to estimated profit generated, hence paid streams 1250 = 1 album & free streams 3750 = 1 album. Also same with 10 tracks = 1 album. In terms of albums with the most equivalents the past 2 years: Divide - 4.4 million Scorpion - 4.1 million DAMN. - 3.9 million Beerbongs - 3.5 million Reputation - 3.4 million I’d assume all above Reputation generated more revenue since they moved more equivalents. |
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Post by kimberly on Feb 17, 2019 17:44:56 GMT -5
Final Predictions --- TOP 10 --- February 23, 2019
| 1 | (=) | 7 rings | 51,000 | (+12%) | | 2 | (NEW) | break up with your girlfriend, i'm bored | 41,900 |
| | 3 | (=) | Without Me | 38,900 | (+2%) | | 4 | (=) | Sunflower | 36,200 | (-3%) | | 5 | (-3) | Happier | 35,500 | (-14%) | | 6 | (+1) | thank u, next | 33,200 | (+23%) | | 7 | (-2) | SICKO MODE | 30,300 | (-6%) | | 8 | (-2) | High Hopes | 26,000 | (-5%) | | 9 | (=) | Wow. | 25,300 | (+4%) | | 10 | (+1) | Eastside | 23,200 | (+7%) |
"Girls Like You" wouldn't even be a top five hit if the top ten was this strong last fall. But that song had mad stability, led the charts with 28k and is now #11 with 22k points, 34 weeks later. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2019 18:44:36 GMT -5
Will this be the first time a woman took up the top 2 spots since Taylor Swift No. Iggy Azalea last had it with “Fancy” and “Problem” in 2014. Fancy and Problem happened before 1989, though. Shake It Off and Blank Space ruled during the winter. Also, Problem was a feature, which I'm not sure counts. |
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Post by Golden Bluebird on Feb 17, 2019 19:09:14 GMT -5
No. Iggy Azalea last had it with “Fancy” and “Problem” in 2014. Fancy and Problem happened before 1989, though. Shake It Off and Blank Space ruled during the winter. Also, Problem was a feature, which I'm not sure counts. No, Owen is right. When "Blank Space" replaced "Shake It Off" at #1, the latter song went to #3, so Taylor didn't occupy both of the top 2 positions simultaneously. |
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Post by Naos on Feb 17, 2019 19:37:43 GMT -5
This. And it's becoming more and more obvious as we go deeper into the streaming era. reputation is a perfect example of this: MASSIVE debut figures, but lagged shortly after because it couldn't keep going on the streaming end of things. Scorpion debuted with lower figures, but it has already moved more album equivalent units in the US and worldwide. $$ wise though does Taylor’s 2.2 million pure sales plus streams end up with more profit than drakes 300k sales plus streams There's no clear way to tell. Artists make money depending on their contracts, along with songwriters and producers taking their own cuts. Taylor Swift uses less co-writers as far as I can tell. And if you look at producers... reputation: Taylor Swift, Jack Antonoff, Max Martin, Shellback, Ali Payami, Oscar Gorres, Oscar Holter Scorpion: Aubrey Graham, Noah "40" Shebib, Oliver El-Khatib, The 25th Hour, Allen Ritter, Blaqnmild, Boi-1da, Cardo, Corey Litwin, D10, DJ Paul, DJ Premier, Illmind, Jahaan Sweet, Jeffrey Rashad, Joe "Capo" Kent, Joshua Valle, Maneesh, ModMaxx, Murda Beatz, No I.D., Noel Cadastre, Nonstop da Hitman, OB, Oogie Mane, PartyNextDoor, Preme, Shaun Harris, Static Major Supah Mario, T-Minus, Tay Keith, TrapMoneyBenny, Wallis Lane, Yung Exclusive Unless you're talking overall profit (without anyone taking a cut), but I would say when comes to Taylor vs. Drake, Taylor's clearly making more. |
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Post by korbel16 on Feb 17, 2019 20:12:20 GMT -5
Will this be the first time a woman took up the top 2 spots since Taylor Swift When did Taylor do it oh ur right... i swear i remember seeing that somewhere that she did it with blank space and shake it off.. oh well maybe it was a fever dream |
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Post by Choco on Feb 17, 2019 23:28:13 GMT -5
In the end albums and singles are petty cash compared to what merchandise, promo deals and touring bring for artists.
There's way more money in streaming though because save for Taylor and maybe Adele, no one really sells much anymore.
There's still no physical version of Cardi's multiplatinum album, for example.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2019 23:28:54 GMT -5
Even though Taylor replaced herself at #1, the week that happened Shake It Off fell to #3 and it wasn't ever #2 while Blank Space was #1. So while it seems like Taylor would've occupied the top 2 spots given the circumstances, it didn't.
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Post by chartslovergermany on Feb 18, 2019 0:00:21 GMT -5
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Post by chartslovergermany on Feb 18, 2019 0:03:17 GMT -5
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Post by kcdawg13 on Feb 18, 2019 0:06:28 GMT -5
Lmao stans really don't have anything else going on do they
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Post by Naos on Feb 18, 2019 1:00:38 GMT -5
In the end albums and singles are petty cash compared to what merchandise, promo deals and touring bring for artists. There's way more money in streaming though because save for Taylor and maybe Adele, no one really sells much anymore. There's still no physical version of Cardi's multiplatinum album, for example. I wouldn't say there's more money in streaming. Not for artists, anyway. It only benefits the top 1% and is bad for the rest. I can assure you with the rise of streaming, profits of indie artists has gone down by a lot. And B-list and C-list acts' income have decreased by a notable margin. |
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Post by owenlovesmusic on Feb 18, 2019 1:01:56 GMT -5
Is the top 10 reveal delayed to Tuesday?
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Post by sam8432 on Feb 18, 2019 8:22:00 GMT -5
Is the top 10 reveal delayed to Tuesday? I believe so, the BB 200 article says that charts won't be updated until Wednesday. |
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Post by mako on Feb 18, 2019 8:33:42 GMT -5
Is the top 10 reveal delayed to Tuesday? I believe so, the BB 200 article says that charts won't be updated until Wednesday. reason? |
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Post by sam8432 on Feb 18, 2019 8:45:17 GMT -5
I believe so, the BB 200 article says that charts won't be updated until Wednesday. reason? Presidents' Day. |
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Post by Golden Bluebird on Feb 18, 2019 9:32:20 GMT -5
kworb.net/airadio/*** = Dropped or added a format Overall AI (Top 20) - 2019/02/181. (=) PANIC! AT THE DISCO - High Hopes (153.389) (-0.170) 2. (=) HALSEY - Without Me (152.133) (+0.086) 3. (+1) BENNY BLANCO, HALSEY & KHALID - Eastside (123.573) (+1.105) 4. (-1) ARIANA GRANDE - thank u, next (121.170) (-1.640) 5. (=) MARSHMELLO - Happier f/Bastille (120.491) (+0.138) *** 6. (=) POST MALONE & SWAE LEE - Sunflower (100.314) (-0.334) 7. (=) MAROON 5 - Girls Like You (92.092) (-1.837) *** 8. (+1) ARIANA GRANDE - 7 Rings (85.146) (+1.906) 9. (-1) TRAVIS SCOTT - Sicko Mode (83.606) (-0.900) 10. (=) ELLIE GOULDING X DIPLO - Close To Me f/Swae Lee (74.737) (+0.453) 11. (=) 5 SECONDS OF SUMMER - Youngblood (66.265) (+0.033) 12. (=) BAD BUNNY - MIA f/Drake (65.853) (+0.102) 13. (=) POST MALONE - Wow (65.430) (+1.199) 14. (+1) KHALID - Better (63.773) (+0.236) 15. (-1) DAN + SHAY - Tequila (63.158) (-0.575) 16. (=) SCOTTY MCCREERY - This Is It (60.960) (-0.809) 17. (=) JASON ALDEAN - Girl Like You (58.435) (-0.066) 18. (=) LUKE COMBS - Beautiful Crazy (57.821) (+0.428) 19. (=) LUKE BRYAN - What Makes You Country (55.363) (+0.753) 20. (=) LIL BABY & GUNNA - Drip Too Hard (54.169) (-0.176) Others: 21. (+4) CARDI B - Money (53.855) (+2.055) *** 23. (+4) SAM SMITH & NORMANI - Dancing With A Stranger (52.743) (+2.088) *** 34. (-1) FLIPP DINERO - Leave Me Alone (43.804) (-0.817) 45. (+14) CARDI B & BRUNO MARS - Please Me (37.846) (+5.406) 48. (+1) MEEK MILL - Going Bad f/Drake (36.783) (+0.899) 52. (-2) PARDISON FONTAINE - Backin It Up f/Cardi B (35.244) (-0.611)
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Post by Choco on Feb 18, 2019 9:50:51 GMT -5
The "High Hopes" vs "Without Me" race for #1 on airplay is getting boring.
Cardi's "flop" single is about to enter top 20 on radio too. Consistency.
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Post by owenlovesmusic on Feb 18, 2019 10:00:23 GMT -5
Please Me could hit top 20 before Money atp. Money has been bouncing around 21-24 for days.
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Post by Gary on Feb 18, 2019 10:13:16 GMT -5
Halsey Holds Top Two Spots on Pop Songs Chart With 'Without Me' & 'Eastside'
2/18/2019 by Gary Trust
Jordan Strauss/Invision/AP
Halsey arrives at the Billboard Music Awards at the MGM Grand Garden Arena on May 20, 2018, in Las Vegas.
As "Eastide," with Benny Blanco & Khalid, rises to No. 2, Halsey earns the first such double in nearly five years.
Halsey becomes the first artist to rank at Nos. 1 and 2 simultaneously on Billboard's Pop Songs radio airplay chart in nearly five years, as "Without Me" spends a fourth week at No. 1 and "Eastside," with Benny Blanco and Khalid, rises 3-2 (on the survey dated Feb. 23).
Halsey is the first act to claim the top two on Pop Songs in a week since Iggy Azalea in 2014. In the chart's 26-year history, Halsey is just the fifth artist to achieve the feat.
Here's a look at all five acts to place at Nos. 1 and 2 simultaneously on Pop Songs and the tracks that earned them the honor.
Halsey
Feb. 23, 2019
No. 1, "Without Me"
No. 2, "Eastside" (with Benny Blanco & Khalid)
Iggy Azalea
June 28, July 5, 2014
No. 1, "Fancy" (feat. Charli XCX)
No. 2, "Problem" (Ariana Grande feat. Iggy Azalea)
July 12, 2014
No. 1, "Problem"
No. 2, "Fancy"
Halsey performs on stage during the MTV EMAs 2018 on Nov. 4, 2018 in Bilbao, Spain.
Read More
Halsey, Sittin' Up There: How 'Without Me' Hit No. 1, On the Chart Beat Podcast
Pharrell Williams
July 27, Aug. 3, 2013
No. 1, "Blurred Lines" (Robin Thicke feat. T.I. + Pharrell)
No. 2, "Get Lucky" (Daft Punk feat. Pharrell Williams)
OutKast
Jan. 31, Feb. 7, 2004
No. 1, "Hey Ya!"
No. 2 ,"The Way You Move" (feat. Sleepy Brown)
Mariah Carey
Dec. 9, 1995
No. 1, "One Sweet Day" (with Boyz II Men)
No. 2, "Fantasy"
Meanwhile, "Eastside" completes the longest climb ever to the top two on Pop Songs, reaching No. 2 in its 30th week on the chart. The song passes the ascent of DNCE's "Cake by the Ocean," which hit its No. 2 peak in its 28th week on April 30, 2016.
All charts will update Wednesday (Feb. 20) on Billboard.com.
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