Gary
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Post by Gary on Jun 10, 2019 17:27:27 GMT -5
Right, there was no streaming 30-40 years ago in its existing form, in the sense that no one called it "streaming"
However, streaming is just another way of saying 'on demand radio'
Now on-demand radio existed 30-40 years ago but in a different form. You always had the power to change the station if you didn't like the song. You also had request lines as well, much like today.
You also had the power to buy the song like you do today
And #1 30-40 years ago was the combined leader of the existing components (radio and sales in this case) much like today
So really not that much different after all
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Post by KeepDeanWeird on Jun 10, 2019 17:43:28 GMT -5
Instead of complaining about OTR’s potential to tie/brake record, how about some serious props: 1) it gained on all 3 metrics during 10th week at #1; and 2) it’s consistently massive lead - those point totals are impressive. And I have no strong feelings about OTR either way - but I do like it when songs defy expectations and chart logic. I’m
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2019 17:45:05 GMT -5
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Post by badrobot on Jun 10, 2019 17:47:38 GMT -5
What makes it ridiculous? Old Town Road, is and remains a streaming monster like nothing that has come out before. It continues to be the top seller and will soon be the top song at radio. The fact that Katy won't ever get #1 means at the time of release, that song did not have the same impact. The same goes for Billie and anyone else that has recently released It's not like the way it was 30 to 40 years ago. 30-40 years ago, the chart was based on loosely-estimated (and easily manipulated) reports from stores and radio stations manually listing their top singles. Today the data is so precise we can know exactly how many times a song was purchased or even heard. I often don’t like or have never even heard what some of the big hits are, but the billboard chart system is the most accurate it’s ever been. |
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Post by walt91 on Jun 10, 2019 17:58:30 GMT -5
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Post by jtd Thee Stallion on Jun 10, 2019 18:06:49 GMT -5
“Old man yells at cloud”
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Post by leonagwen on Jun 10, 2019 18:09:59 GMT -5
Right, there was no streaming 30-40 years ago in its existing form, in the sense that no one called it "streaming" However, streaming is just another way of saying 'on demand radio' Now on-demand radio existed 30-40 years ago but in a different form. You always had the power to change the station if you didn't like the song. You also had request lines as well, much like today. You also had the power to buy the song like you do today And #1 30-40 years ago was the combined leader of the existing components (radio and sales in this case) much like today So really not that much different after all It is different today. The charts are too stagnant today. Songs chart too long, stay at #1 too long. |
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Jun 10, 2019 18:13:25 GMT -5
Right, there was no streaming 30-40 years ago in its existing form, in the sense that no one called it "streaming" However, streaming is just another way of saying 'on demand radio' Now on-demand radio existed 30-40 years ago but in a different form. You always had the power to change the station if you didn't like the song. You also had request lines as well, much like today. You also had the power to buy the song like you do today And #1 30-40 years ago was the combined leader of the existing components (radio and sales in this case) much like today So really not that much different after all It is different today. The charts are too stagnant today. Songs chart too long, stay at #1 too long. And who’s fault is that? That is to say: why do you think that is? |
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Post by Naos on Jun 10, 2019 18:22:03 GMT -5
Right, there was no streaming 30-40 years ago in its existing form, in the sense that no one called it "streaming" However, streaming is just another way of saying 'on demand radio' Now on-demand radio existed 30-40 years ago but in a different form. You always had the power to change the station if you didn't like the song. You also had request lines as well, much like today. You also had the power to buy the song like you do today And #1 30-40 years ago was the combined leader of the existing components (radio and sales in this case) much like today So really not that much different after all It is different today. The charts are too stagnant today. Songs chart too long, stay at #1 too long. Might be because a lot of people are content listening to the same song over and over. |
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Post by Xander on Jun 10, 2019 18:22:18 GMT -5
Drake is teasing on ig that if the Raptors win tonight’s game, he’ll be dropping a new song. If he drops it on Friday with a music video and a radio deal, it might be able to knock out OTR.
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Post by moonlite on Jun 10, 2019 18:25:13 GMT -5
I doubt Drake is gonna drop an official single now, especially after No Guidance was just released. It might just be a loosie or a freestyle
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Post by Au$tin on Jun 10, 2019 18:25:15 GMT -5
Happy to see SHAED debut! It feels like that's a big hit in the making. It's very reminiscent of the alt pop sound prominent in 2012-2014.
Also that's a solid debut for Miley. Given the EP released without a true lead single and Mother's Daughter wasn't selected as the lead until several days into its release so there's not much airplay to speak of to bolster its sales and streaming, #54 is pretty good. It'll more than likely rise as airplay grows.
Also a great debut for Katy. This track really was going to be the thing that determined where her career was heading after how poorly Bon Apetit, Swish Swish, and 365 performed. To see it come in at #15 and be on track to be her first lead top 10 on pop since Chained to the Rhythm is amazing!
Press, however, is just disappointing. I get that it wasn't pushed to radio immediately, but still, the Instagram clip is the most watched video on Instagram ever and the buzz for the track was huge after that. The drop off from that to how it performed on release is staggering. But, then again, that clip is, what, 5 months old now? Probably shouldn't have teased it so far out from its release.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2019 19:10:02 GMT -5
Drake is teasing on ig that if the Raptors win tonight’s game, he’ll be dropping a new song. If he drops it on Friday with a music video and a radio deal, it might be able to knock out OTR.I have serious doubt it'll have either of those and even if it does, I can see Nas X cockblocking him |
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Gary
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Post by Gary on Jun 10, 2019 19:31:30 GMT -5
Lol no.
Old Town Road will fall eventually. They all do. But not this week
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Post by spicymapping on Jun 10, 2019 19:57:10 GMT -5
To be honest at this point even with the gains OTR is showing the same signs of every other #1 hit on its way out - Radio gains are finally slowing down, It's off #1 on all major streaming platforms, and sales is sales so who cares tbh. That is, of course, if you disregard the fact that it has inexplicably huge youtube that literally over quadrupled the #2 in its 10th week at said spot.
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Post by Gary on Jun 10, 2019 20:18:53 GMT -5
yeah If you ignore all the gains. This song is in decline like all other songs on its way out. LOL
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Post by TakeMe on Jun 10, 2019 20:30:30 GMT -5
With the BET awards coming up. OTR is definitely breaking that record.
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Post by Naos on Jun 10, 2019 22:44:36 GMT -5
New arrivals this week:
#15 - "Never Really Over" by Katy Perry
#16 - "Press" by Cardi B
#54 - "Mother's Daughter" by Miley Cyrus
#67 - "Call You Mine" by The Chainsmokers ft. Bebe Rexha
#70 - "The Search" by NF
#91 - "Shut Up About Politics" by John Rich ft. The Five
#92 - "La La Land" by Bryce Vine ft. YG
#93 - "Ransom" by Lil Tecca
#94 - "Enemy Arms" by Trippie Redd
#97 - "Raised On Country" by Chris Young
#99 - "Trampoline" by SHAED
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Post by Naos on Jun 10, 2019 22:53:16 GMT -5
Notable gains (more than 10 spots):
#32 - Look What God Gave Her (+12)
#57 - Love Someone (+15)
#58 - Someone You Loved (+12)
#64 - Knockin' Boots (+10)
Other new peaks:
#19 - God's Country (+1)
#21 - Truth Hurts (+5)
#37 - Rumor (+4)
#47 - Miss Me More (+5)
#75 - All to Myself (+8)
#78 - On My Way to You (+8)
#88 - Rearview Town (+9)
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Post by thebops on Jun 10, 2019 23:58:12 GMT -5
June 14, 1969
03 06 In The Ghetto - Elvis Presley
Probably the closest Elvis ever got to a "protest" or "socially conscious" song.
June 17, 1989
10 13 Cry - Waterfront
The year I graduated high school and I was very tuned in to the charts that year. Still, I have no memory whatsoever of this song.
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Post by hunterquigley on Jun 11, 2019 6:02:23 GMT -5
Does anyone else see that on billboard’s webpage it says that Billie Eilish and “bad guy” peaked at number one?
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Post by hunterquigley on Jun 11, 2019 6:03:14 GMT -5
Does anyone else see that on billboard’s webpage it says that Billie Eilish and “bad guy” peaked at number one? Scratch that it seems like mostly every song has peaked at number one except for a few like Suge and Truth Hurts which have “peaked” at number two |
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Post by Lux ◢ ◤ on Jun 11, 2019 6:41:20 GMT -5
Apparently Billboard is crediting ME! as a #1 hit now...
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Post by monkeydluffy on Jun 11, 2019 6:45:44 GMT -5
Apparently Billboard is crediting ME! as a #1 hit now...  Yeah lol, there’s something wrong cause both the billboard Hot 100 and billboard 200 are saying almost every song and album is number one minus a couple here and there |
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Post by Lux ◢ ◤ on Jun 11, 2019 6:47:00 GMT -5
Apparently Billboard is crediting ME! as a #1 hit now... Yeah lol, there’s something wrong cause both the billboard Hot 100 and billboard 200 are saying almost every song and album is number one minus a couple here and there Oh that's odd, I'll remove the huge screenshot then. Thought it was something they did wrong especially as it happened after its peak weak :x |
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on Jun 11, 2019 7:17:19 GMT -5
^Yeah. Once again, lack of editorial oversight ...
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on Jun 11, 2019 7:19:31 GMT -5
5 Country songs in the top 40 of the Hot 100.
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Gary
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Post by Gary on Jun 11, 2019 7:58:27 GMT -5
will post charts within an hour or so
A little annoyed that the peak position field is messed up on every chart.
Hope they fix it
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Post by gabe on Jun 11, 2019 8:03:06 GMT -5
will post charts within an hour or so A little annoyed that the peak position field is messed up on every chart. Hope they fix it thanks, gary. not sure what we would do without you. we'd have to look at the nice-looking chart posted above or billboard itself. we'd be lost without your chart. |
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Post by rimetm on Jun 11, 2019 8:10:09 GMT -5
Don't sass, he gets his mitts on the charts not posted to the public site (of particular interest being Bubbling Under and Recurrent Songs), and for that service, I'm extremely thankful.
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