Top songwriters by Hot 100 points

[rockgolf]

Max Martin's Greatest Hits would be a box set.

Looks like paulhaney is right on the money.

[nickd]

#3. Paul McCartney

Points: 72393









garrettlen rockgolf paulhaney

[jtd Thee Stallion]

R. Kelly has all those songs and he can’t even read. Crazy.

[nickd]

#2. Kenneth Edmonds (Babyface)

Points: 80982






jdanton2 BlueSwan paulhaney rockgolf

[rockgolf]

Coulda sworn McCartney would be #1.

[nickd]

#1. Diane Warren

Points: 89698






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[narp]

Aug 27, 2019 14:34:48 GMT -5 nickd said:

#4. Karl Sandberg (Max Martin)

Points: 70320








paulhaney rockgolf narp Ｓｏｕｎｄｃｌ🕤ｃｋ BlueSwan

You’re an icon, exactly what I’ve been waiting for

[nickd]

narp - thanks but 

Jun 11, 2019 11:52:43 GMT -5 rockgolf said:

Jun 11, 2019 11:08:59 GMT -5 Ｓｏｕｎｄｃｌ🕤ｃｋ said:

Can't wait for Max Martin.

When he is published, can whoever replies NOT include the whole damn chart again when quoting? Go into the quote in the Preview and delete the copy of the chart. Or go to the BBCcode and remove the code for the images.

[paulhaney]

Thanks so much for doing all this!  A very interesting list for sure.

[imbondz]

Aug 27, 2019 17:55:28 GMT -5 nickd said:

#2. Kenneth Edmonds (Babyface)

Points: 81363






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Babyface wrote all those songs??

[thegreatdivine]

imbondz his writing credits are split between songwriting and production credits.

[garrettlen]

Thanks for the alert nickd! Nice job on Lennon and McCartney, and GREAT job on ALL of them!

Thank you for all the work you did on these too. It was appreciated by so many of us!

[garrettlen]

Aug 27, 2019 17:58:50 GMT -5 rockgolf said:

Coulda sworn McCartney would be #1.

Me too.  But sharing credit with Lennon on all the Beatles' songs understandably prevented that.

Still, #3 aint too shabby.

[BlueSwan]

I guess Max Martin is hurt by having a ton of co-writers, whereas Dianne Warren wrote most of her big hits alone.

[nickd]

William Adams (will.i.am)

Points: 16464

[nickd]

Shaffer Smith (Ne-Yo)

Points: 16573

[nickd]

Paul Anka

Points: 26,480





Including the songs from the Top 100 days, Paul Anka would have a total of 31,602 points.

[kimberly]

Aug 27, 2019 14:34:48 GMT -5 nickd said:

#4. Karl Sandberg (Max Martin)

Points: 70320

paulhaney rockgolf narp Ｓｏｕｎｄｃｌ🕤ｃｋ BlueSwan

maybe I'm a max martin stan.. maybe she snapped a little too hard.

[nickd]

Alicia Keys

Points: 17010

[thegreatdivine]

nickd when you have the time, could you calculate the points for Nicki Minaj? She hasn't had any #1 hits, but she's charted over a 100 songs and a handful of them peaked in the top 10/20. She also writes most of her songs. Would be interesting to see how many points she ends up with. Thanks.

Also, maybe by the end of the year, you could update Drake's figures and calculate Post Malone's points, too. He's about to chart an entire album on the Hot 100 so it'll probably be better to wait till the songs have debuted and peaked before calculating them.

[nickd]

Don Henley

Points: 11912



rockgolf

[nickd]

Sept 7, 2019 3:26:12 GMT -5 thegreatdivine said:

nickd when you have the time, could you calculate the points for Nicki Minaj? She hasn't had any #1 hits, but she's charted over a 100 songs and a handful of them peaked in the top 10/20. She also writes most of her songs. Would be interesting to see how many points she ends up with. Thanks.

Also, maybe by the end of the year, you could update Drake's figures and calculate Post Malone's points, too. He's about to chart an entire album on the Hot 100 so it'll probably be better to wait till the songs have debuted and peaked before calculating them.

I was about to post Nicki's but then my computer crashed and I lost my data for her. She had around 13400 points though. Although she has writing credit on pretty much all of her hits, she only averaged around 19% for the songs she had writing credits on. Although rappers have a reputation for writing their lyrics, it seems like the abundance of features, combined with the producers usually also getting a writing credit, as well as the writers of any songs they sample, means their songs often have as many co-writers as for pop singers.

I also wonder how many rappers have co-writers for the melodies and lyrics they perform because they can have co-writers that aren't producers on the song, on songs that don't have samples or features.

[thegreatdivine]

Sept 8, 2019 12:37:20 GMT -5 nickd said:

Sept 7, 2019 3:26:12 GMT -5 thegreatdivine said:

nickd when you have the time, could you calculate the points for Nicki Minaj? She hasn't had any #1 hits, but she's charted over a 100 songs and a handful of them peaked in the top 10/20. She also writes most of her songs. Would be interesting to see how many points she ends up with. Thanks.

Also, maybe by the end of the year, you could update Drake's figures and calculate Post Malone's points, too. He's about to chart an entire album on the Hot 100 so it'll probably be better to wait till the songs have debuted and peaked before calculating them.

I was about to post Nicki's but then my computer crashed and I lost my data for her. She had around 13400 points though. Although she has writing credit on pretty much all of her hits, she only averaged around 19% for the songs she had writing credits on. Although rappers have a reputation for writing their lyrics, it seems like the abundance of features, combined with the producers usually also getting a writing credit, as well as the writers of any songs they sample, means their songs often have as many co-writers as for pop singers.

I also wonder how many rappers have co-writers for the melodies and lyrics they perform because they can have co-writers that aren't producers on the song, on songs that don't have samples or features.

Okay, thanks. I guess I thought she'd have at least 20,000 points. can

Rapperso have tons of credits on their songs because of features, multiple producers and an excessive use of samples. Most rappers sample on most of their songs and that tends to cut into their writing credit percentage.

Sometimes, they get people to write hooks for them or help them out with song structure.

Crediting works differently from artist to artist. While some artists give credits to people who assist in any way on a song, even if they don't actually help with the lyrics or the production of a song, some others don't.

[nickd]

Alecia Moore (P!nk)

Points: 14473

[nickd]

David Foster

Points: 18904




rockgolf

[rockgolf]

So Foster falls behind Drake and Paul Anka among Canadian songwriters.

I wonder where Bryan Adams and/or Jim Vallance would rank.

[nickd]

Justin Timberlake

Points: 16632

[pnobelysk]

Can I put in a request for sia? She’s a pop star who writes for others a lot

[nickd]

Sia Furler

Points: 7420



pnobelysk - I think her smaller hits did better in Europe than on the Hot 100 for the most part.

[nickd]

Bryan Adams

Points: 16689




rockgolf - Jim Vallance would probably have about half as many points