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Post by Ryan on Jun 15, 2019 4:35:10 GMT -5
6,619,086 streams on Spotify on its first day.
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Post by Eloqueen™ on Jun 15, 2019 5:32:57 GMT -5
6,619,086 streams on Spotify on its first day. If accurate those are great numbers!
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Post by samo🦕 on Jun 15, 2019 5:40:39 GMT -5
Not completely in love with it yet but it's certainly an improvement over ME! (which was pretty good to begin with).
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Post by Az Paynter on Jun 15, 2019 7:15:42 GMT -5
POP: -- 42 TAYLOR SWIFT You Need To Calm Down 901 0 901 6.151
+901 Spins +901 Bullet +6.151 Audience
HOT AC: -- 47 TAYLOR SWIFT You Need To Calm Down 201 0 201 1.713
+201 Spins +201 Bullet +1.713 Audience
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Post by Deleted on Jun 15, 2019 7:18:44 GMT -5
at that first day.
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Post by Rocky on Jun 15, 2019 7:24:08 GMT -5
I don’t have a problem with this pandering to gays. It seems authentic, sort of, and the song is catchy. My problem is mostly that the lyrics are cringe. I don’t doubt that she likes gays but I doubt she uses phrases like “shade” and “take several seats” in real conversations. I agree with Codex on something, wheww
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Post by Lumi on Jun 15, 2019 7:34:57 GMT -5
So radio is definitely going to be hesitant to play this, cool cool.
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Post by Eloqueen™ on Jun 15, 2019 7:35:38 GMT -5
Awesome start for no radio deal!
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Post by Az Paynter on Jun 15, 2019 7:37:48 GMT -5
at that first day. I fail to see what's wrong with it? I don't recall any first-day airplay deal being reported for this, which means if radio did this on its own they went in.
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Post by Eloqueen™ on Jun 15, 2019 7:41:48 GMT -5
at that first day. I fail to see what's wrong with it? I don't recall any first-day airplay deal being reported for this, which means if radio did this on its own they went in. Exactly. That is an amazing natural start. I can't with the supposed "hesitation" from radio. lol
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Post by Deleted on Jun 15, 2019 8:02:31 GMT -5
Oh this doesn’t haven’t a deal. Right.
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Post by leonagwen on Jun 15, 2019 8:28:01 GMT -5
Oh this doesn’t haven’t a deal. Right. My local station played it on the hour every hour yesterday.
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Post by Az Paynter on Jun 15, 2019 8:29:00 GMT -5
Radio stations can still choose to do that of their own volition, which looks to have been the case here.
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Post by musicbuff26 on Jun 15, 2019 8:35:08 GMT -5
Apparently she performed at Stonewall in NYC. She’s really catering to her gay fans. As long as it isn’t pandering, I think It’s great.
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Post by blfdguy1 on Jun 15, 2019 8:38:57 GMT -5
I don't know if anyone has heard it at 1.25 speed, but now I can't listen to it in the original speed. Much better!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 15, 2019 9:05:10 GMT -5
I get that Taylor is seen as cornier than other artists, but I fail to see how this is pandering. I think she's very genuine in her support for the LGBTQ community, why wouldn't she be? Some of you are doing the absolute most.
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Post by deepston on Jun 15, 2019 9:17:56 GMT -5
I don’t have a problem with this pandering to gays. It seems authentic, sort of, and the song is catchy. My problem is mostly that the lyrics are cringe. I don’t doubt that she likes gays but I doubt she uses phrases like “shade” and “take several seats” in real conversations. I'm gay and I don't use those words on a real conversation.
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Post by Love Plastic Love on Jun 15, 2019 9:24:11 GMT -5
I actually could see Taylor using shade in regular conversation. Most of the people I hear using it are straight white girls who watch one season of drag race and suddenly start parroting the language in really embarrassing ways. Like, god, Karen from down the hallway saying no tea no shade before going to get Starbucks **shudders**
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Post by neverduplicated on Jun 15, 2019 9:44:06 GMT -5
I get that Taylor is seen as cornier than other artists, but I fail to see how this is pandering. I think she's very genuine in her support for the LGBTQ community, why wouldn't she be? Some of you are doing the absolute most. Female pop stars who make it big are always questioned for their authenticity so this is nothing new. No matter what Taylor does, there will always be a large amount of people who call her fake and calculating because we have a problem in our society to question powerful women's motives and means of becoming successful, something that does not happen so much with male musicians. This is a big part of the reason she feels inspired to make songs like this, LWYMMD, and SIO. So many people criticized her for so long for being quiet on political matters. Now she speaks up about something she cares about and she gets accused of being "pandering" and people nitpick her use of the word "shade" even though the meaning she is trying to convey is extremely clear. I even read an article about this new song from Slate titled "Taylor Swift's New Single is a Teachable Moment About How Not to be an Ally." When I read it I just couldn't help but roll my eyes. The article criticizes her of only tone policing and not actually speaking about anything of substance when the article itself is literally that - just writing about how they don't like her word choice and that somehow that means gay people should be offended by the song. They end the article by insinuating she's just trying to capitalize on Pride month, which I get makes sense considering the timing of the release, but honestly IMO Taylor has more to lose than to gain by releasing a song defending gay people. On a broader note, people are always susceptible to criticism when they try to champion a minority group they do not belong to because the first thing people will do is question their authenticity, the way they did it, the fact that they are not part of that group and therefore won't know how to best make the point, etc. I absolutely do think you need to be careful to be an ALLY and not pretend like you yourself are the victim or that you are the authority on the issue, but I think Taylor makes it very clear in the song that is playing the role of ally by saying "my friends." And honestly if LGBTQ people are going to reject support from America's biggest pop star because maybe she didn't use the word "shade" in the most correct way possible (which btw "shade" has totally become part of everyday lingo and not just by LGBTQ people, the term has exploded), then we are rejecting probably the most influential pop culture star who can actually infiltrate Republican America and maybe change some people's minds, or at least start a conversation.
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Post by Soundcl🕤ck on Jun 15, 2019 9:47:57 GMT -5
Spotify
WW: #3 (5,011,975) US: #1 (2,459,661) UK: #10 (294,330)
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Post by Choco on Jun 15, 2019 10:26:22 GMT -5
Alright, good start on Spotify. Great start on airplay for a song without a deal.
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Jun 15, 2019 10:57:55 GMT -5
at that first day. I fail to see what's wrong with it? I don't recall any first-day airplay deal being reported for this, which means if radio did this on its own they went in. At the risk of stirring the pot (which I promise isn't my intention this time lol), how does this first day compare with Bon Appetite? I will admit it's a bit underwhelming for a brand new Taylor track that it didn't break 1,000 spins. It's not necessarily a sign of anything, particularly if it isn't being actively promoted - unless it is (being promoted), in which case, it might be (a sign of something)?
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Jun 15, 2019 11:01:25 GMT -5
I get that Taylor is seen as cornier than other artists, but I fail to see how this is pandering. I think she's very genuine in her support for the LGBTQ community, why wouldn't she be? Some of you are doing the absolute most. Yeah, what's this whole thing about pandering? Are we really going to criticize people for trying too hard to be pro-gay? I could understand if Taylor had shown signs of being homophobic in the past or had been targeting the conservatives until she decided she wanted the gay $$$ but she's never given any indication of the sort before. Then again, people said the same about Gaga when Born This Way came out and Gaga was practically a rainbow unicorn from the first day she stepped on the stage. It's like we beg for support and when we get it, we criticize them for it because it's not good enough or the right kind.
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Jun 15, 2019 11:02:52 GMT -5
I don’t have a problem with this pandering to gays. It seems authentic, sort of, and the song is catchy. My problem is mostly that the lyrics are cringe. I don’t doubt that she likes gays but I doubt she uses phrases like “shade” and “take several seats” in real conversations. I'm gay and I don't use those words on a real conversation. I'm trying to picture her saying "this sick beat" in conversation too. I'm guessing this is a new baseline for what phrases artists can and can't say in song lyrics.
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Post by neverduplicated on Jun 15, 2019 11:06:56 GMT -5
I'm gay and I don't use those words on a real conversation. I'm trying to picture her saying "this sick beat" in conversation too. I'm guessing this is a new baseline for what phrases artists can and can't say in song lyrics. Song lyrics aren’t meant to be how people talk. When has that ever been an expectation of song lyrics?
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Post by jodakyellow on Jun 15, 2019 11:09:39 GMT -5
Debuts at #7 on Apple Music. Not bad at all for a pop song.
If you love the song and it makes you feel seen and supported, that’s awesome! And I can’t deny that Taylor has a lot of love in her heart for queer people. As for me, the misuse of “shade” and out-of-place reference to GLAAD signals tone deafness. I appreciate the effort and believe it’s coming from a good place, but I’m going to continue to mock the hell out of it on Twitter.
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Post by Az Paynter on Jun 15, 2019 11:13:54 GMT -5
I fail to see what's wrong with it? I don't recall any first-day airplay deal being reported for this, which means if radio did this on its own they went in. At the risk of stirring the pot (which I promise isn't my intention this time lol), how does this first day compare with Bon Appetite? Taylor did in one day what took Katy nearly a week (for one, BA's first full day of airplay was <250 spins, and took her like 5-6 days to break 900 first-week spins). If this really had no deal of any kind, then its debut showing is significant.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 15, 2019 11:15:50 GMT -5
Do I doubt her genuine feelings towards gays? No .
I think its stategic and calculated timing for the song but then again so is everything else she does.
My main issue is the cringe cadence and corny lyrics. If your goal is support I would have preferred a less shallow attempt but if the goal is capitalize on Pride Month and score a pop hit then it's the right song for that but even then this is subpar for her.
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Post by jodakyellow on Jun 15, 2019 11:17:33 GMT -5
Do I doubt her genuine feelings towards gays? No . I think its stategic and calculated timing for the song but then again so is everything else she does. My main issue is the cringe cadence and corny lyrics. If your goal is support I would have preferred a less shallow attempt but if the goal is capitalize on Pride Month and score a pop hit then it's the right song for that but even then this is subpar for her. Literally all of this ^^^ (except calling the cadence cringe, in my opinion )
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Post by Dammn Baby on Jun 15, 2019 11:18:28 GMT -5
This is all I can think of when I hear the title.
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