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Post by iHype. on Jul 2, 2019 17:21:37 GMT -5
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Post by owenlovesmusic on Jul 2, 2019 17:36:49 GMT -5
It has Wow's peak as #15... No Guidance at #2 You Need To Calm Down at #1 bad guy at #1 Earfquake at #2
Interesting.
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Post by moonlite on Jul 2, 2019 17:39:10 GMT -5
Their website interface is great and I like how they display the numbers for everything. I don't like the peaks being daily instead of weekly tho
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Post by iHype. on Jul 2, 2019 17:41:35 GMT -5
It has Wow's peak as #15... No Guidance at #2 You Need To Calm Down at #1 bad guy at #1 Earfquake at #2 Interesting. I think some artists just have incorrect stats. For example, Beerbongs & Bentleys also shows a peak of #7. Yet we know it did over 400K first week so. That was the issue with BuzzAngle (the data supplier of this chart) when they ran their own charts too. There would always be a few songs/albums clearly incorrect on their chart. Last week Money in the Grave wasn't even on their chart the whole release week.
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Post by owenlovesmusic on Jul 2, 2019 17:44:47 GMT -5
Happier is at #55 with 41 weeks on the chart.
No recurrent rule? I hope so.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2019 17:45:20 GMT -5
Streaming must be weighted way more than radio since Talk and Sucker are not even top 10...
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Post by owenlovesmusic on Jul 2, 2019 17:46:46 GMT -5
also, Better Now at #78 with 58 weeks charting I Like It at #96 with 59 weeks charting
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Post by owenlovesmusic on Jul 2, 2019 17:47:21 GMT -5
Streaming must be weighted way more than radio since Talk and Sucker are not even top 10... I Dont Care as well. Down at #17.
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Post by Golden Bluebird on Jul 2, 2019 17:49:19 GMT -5
Streaming must be weighted way more than radio since Talk and Sucker are not even top 10... From their Top 100 Songs page:
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Post by iHype. on Jul 2, 2019 17:49:27 GMT -5
Streaming must be weighted way more than radio since Talk and Sucker are not even top 10... Radio isn't included. It's a sales+streaming chart basically, like UK's chart.
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Post by sam8432 on Jul 2, 2019 17:59:32 GMT -5
If Señorita is a debut, how does it have a number 1 peak with two weeks on the chart? I assume the number 1 peak is for the daily chart, but what is that doing on a weekly chart? Same with Lil Nas X’s tracks.
Better Now’s Peak is 67, which I have a hard time believing. Sure, it was radio-driven for some of its Billboard run, but not by that much.
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Post by jodakyellow on Jul 2, 2019 18:19:38 GMT -5
Looks like they haven't quite figured out Featured Artists yet... #95 on the artist chart is "Lil Nas X, Cardi B"
Lizzo's 'Cuz I Love You' is suffering on their Albums Chart (compared to Billboard, anyway) from the bonus tracks (namely, "Truth Hurts," not being included).
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Post by owenlovesmusic on Jul 2, 2019 18:27:57 GMT -5
If Señorita is a debut, how does it have a number 1 peak with two weeks on the chart? I assume the number 1 peak is for the daily chart, but what is that doing on a weekly chart? Same with Lil Nas X’s tracks. Daily peaks.
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Post by thabb on Jul 2, 2019 18:32:20 GMT -5
Looks like they haven't quite figured out Featured Artists yet... #95 on the artist chart is "Lil Nas X, Cardi B" Lizzo's 'Cuz I Love You' is suffering on their Albums Chart (compared to Billboard, anyway) from the bonus tracks (namely, "Truth Hurts," not being included). they have Cardi B with 23.2mil streams last week when the songs on the Songs 100 chart indicates she has at least 58.9mil streams from the songs charting there alone. it's more than features, they just have things out of wack in general with the Albums and Artists charts like, am i meant to believe this:
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Post by Okay on Jul 2, 2019 18:43:08 GMT -5
I'm glad the charts are finally up, but did they have to use BuzzAngle? BuzzAngle's charts have so many problems and mistakes
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Post by kimberly on Jul 2, 2019 18:45:04 GMT -5
Love the interface and transparency with the numbers. Need weekly peaks tho!
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Post by thegreatdivine on Jul 2, 2019 19:19:20 GMT -5
I don't see Rolling Stone's charts catching on. Billboard's charts will always be the industry standard, but I can see the benefit of them having competition. It'll give them incentive to do more and probably be more transparent.
I just have objections about BuzzAngle supplying data because they have a LONG history of being less than accurate.
Billboard charts (the older, more respected and regarded chart body).
Nielsen Soundscan (the older, more respected and regarded information and sales tracking system).
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Post by fhas on Jul 2, 2019 19:27:23 GMT -5
Dancing With A Stranger (#31), 7 rings (#32), Without Me (#42), Sweet but Psycho (#43), Happier (#55), ME! (#67), SICKO MODE (#68)... it's interesting to see the impact that radio, YouTube and Pandora have on the Hot 100.
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Post by Enigma. on Jul 3, 2019 3:11:11 GMT -5
What a goddamn mess. Do EITHER a weekly OR a daily chart, not messing up with both.
There's no reason to publish the daily chart if the weekly chart is official one.
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Post by thegreatdivine on Jul 3, 2019 4:14:51 GMT -5
What a goddamn mess. Do EITHER a weekly OR a daily chart, not messing up with both. There's no reason to publish the daily chart if the weekly chart is official one. I think it's pretty obvious that we'll all be sticking to Billboard's charts, lol. Why should I care about a daily song chart? That's too much stress. There are also a ton of metrics that they don't calculate on their song chart, lol.
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Post by shayonce on Jul 3, 2019 5:21:19 GMT -5
interesting.
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Post by shayonce on Jul 3, 2019 5:24:03 GMT -5
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Post by rockgolf on Jul 3, 2019 7:59:54 GMT -5
Having to revise the page 15 entries at a time is just too painful. Especially on the Top 500 Artists. That's over 30 times I have to load the page. Just gimme a simple 500 line table without all the graphics and mega-whitespace.
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Post by rosemoor on Jul 3, 2019 13:10:39 GMT -5
Streaming must be weighted way more than radio since Talk and Sucker are not even top 10... I love it, since I haven't listened to radio for ages and I think that streaming definitely reflect more listeners' true preference instead of corporations' power. BTW, I subscribe to Apple Music, if I download the song to my iphone, when I stream it, does it still count as streaming or just count as one song sold?
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Post by dawhite76 on Jul 3, 2019 14:41:56 GMT -5
Their album streaming data seems off:
* No. 40 - Eagles self-titled album. Two of its three top tracks per Rolling Stone, "Hotel California" and "Life In The Fast Lane," are not even on the album. * No. 90 - Elton John's "Goodbye Yellow Brick Road." The second most popular track, "Your Song," is not on the album. * No. 128 - Fleetwood Mac's self-titled album. "Dreams" and "Go Your Own Way" are on "Rumours."
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Post by Enigma. on Jul 3, 2019 15:10:40 GMT -5
If I was taking care of charts with mistakes like that, I wouldn't dare to tell anyone I was in charge.
Chart nerds simply do not approve this.
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Post by jodakyellow on Jul 3, 2019 15:26:13 GMT -5
Their album streaming data seems off: * No. 40 - Eagles self-titled album. Two of its three top tracks per Rolling Stone, "Hotel California" and "Life In The Fast Lane," are not even on the album. * No. 90 - Elton John's "Goodbye Yellow Brick Road." The second most popular track, "Your Song," is not on the album. * No. 128 - Fleetwood Mac's self-titled album. "Dreams" and "Go Your Own Way" are on "Rumours." All three of those or so embarrassing on Rolling Stone's part. Call me when they've worked out the kinks.
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Post by rockgolf on Jul 3, 2019 16:03:22 GMT -5
Their album streaming data seems off: * No. 40 - Eagles self-titled album. Two of its three top tracks per Rolling Stone, "Hotel California" and "Life In The Fast Lane," are not even on the album. * No. 90 - Elton John's "Goodbye Yellow Brick Road." The second most popular track, "Your Song," is not on the album. * No. 128 - Fleetwood Mac's self-titled album. "Dreams" and "Go Your Own Way" are on "Rumours." Most likely, they have the wrong albums listed. More likely, the right albums are The Very Best of The Eagles (which does contain those 3 tracks), Elton John's Diamonds, and Fleetwood Mac's Greatest Hits. Definitely problematic, tho. Same applies to Beatles White album which list the (not on a common album at all to my knowledge) Eleanor Rigby, A Hard Day's Night and Across The Universe.
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Post by ddlz on Jul 3, 2019 17:06:06 GMT -5
Completely useless. We'll never get rid of Billboard if this is the best their competitors can come up with.
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Post by king_billboard_100 on Jul 3, 2019 17:09:17 GMT -5
But its similar to billboard same artist other peaks so whats the point???
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