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Post by timmierz on Jul 12, 2019 7:50:46 GMT -5
TLC’s “No Scrubs” and its parody by Sporty Thievz are awkwardly bumping bottoms this week. I’m not sure if this has happened before or since. Anyone know? The closest I could find was the May 4, 1996 chart having Gangsta's Paradise at #50 and Amish Paradise at #53. Although there's a borderline case on October 11, 2008: Kid Rock's All Summer Long was at #28 while a cash-grabber soundalike cover of the same by The Rock Heroes was at #29. (Kid Rock's version wasn't on sale in the iTunes store, so there were two high-charting covers of it; the version by Hit Masters actually outpeaked the original!) |
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Post by Enigma. on Jul 12, 2019 9:58:03 GMT -5
Bad Guy finished the week at #1 on Spotify :o
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Post by spicymapping on Jul 12, 2019 11:49:37 GMT -5
Odd to see the versions combined, but oh well. I think that rules out Goodbyes at #2 anyways.
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Post by somelikeitwhen on Jul 12, 2019 13:07:55 GMT -5
Retro Hot 100 - July 17, 1999 I was just noticing how relatively few hip-hop songs were thriving on this chart, especially in the upper regions. It was a pop boom for sure, arguably the biggest ever. But the fact that physical sales didn't count without significant airplay really held hip-hop back on the Hot 100 during this phase. Then a few years later, with the onset of the digital era, hip-hop singles thrived again and dominated the first half of the 2000s. pulsemusic.proboards.com/post/7066654/threadSometime around 2003 or 2004 there was a shift and hip-hop songs tended to have the highest impressions. It was probably due to high listenership of stations like Hot 97 and Power 106, and also how much crossover there was to pop back then. Although it might just be because Billboard's sample only contained the top 100 or such markets and small market hip-hop stations tended to not exist then. I don't think the #1 song on Urban had over 60 million impressions in 1999 but in the mid 2000s it would regularly pass 90 million. |
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Post by #LisaRinna on Jul 12, 2019 14:46:38 GMT -5
Final Spotify numbers for the week:
"Goodbyes" - 13,405,000
"Senorita" - 11,804,132 (-451,405)
"Old Town Road" - 9,386,916 (-2,059,161)
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on Jul 12, 2019 14:52:15 GMT -5
kworb's Billboard Radio Songs Estimates 2019/07/12
1(=) Khalid - Talk 174.04(+2.01)
2(=) Jonas Brothers - Sucker 146.29(-0.70)
3(=) Ed Sheeran & Justin Bieber - I Don't Care 142.11(+0.22)
4(=) Shawn Mendes - If I Can't Have You 108.13(+0.10)
5(=) Billie Eilish - bad guy 106.40(+0.75)
6(=) Panic! At the Disco - Hey Look Ma, I Made It 104.54(+0.90)
7(=) Sam Smith & Normani - Dancing with a Stranger 102.06(-0.85)
8(=) Lil Nas X - Old Town Road (feat. Billy Ray Cyrus) [Remix] 93.64(-2.70)
9(=) Post Malone - Wow. 83.39(-1.42)
10(=) Ava Max - Sweet but Psycho 68.91 -0.81
12(=) Lizzo - Truth Hurts 64.51(+1.40)
14(+1) Dan + Shay - Speechless 61.32(+0.83)
18(=) Eric Church - Some of It 58.36(+1.05)
27(=) Shawn Mendes & Camila Cabello - Señorita 49.41(+1.00)
37(+1) Chris Brown - No Guidance (feat. Drake) 41.43(+1.36)
50(+3) Meek Mill - 24/7 (feat. Ella Mai) 34.69(+1.84)
55(+4) Lewis Capaldi - Someone You Loved 32.60(+1.10)
56(+10) Post Malone - Goodbyes (feat. Young Thug) 32.37(+4.36)
72(+4) YK Osiris - Worth It 25.76(+1.02)
83(+5) Drake - Money In The Grave (feat. Rick Ross) 23.30(+1.00)
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Post by aussie1 on Jul 12, 2019 17:47:22 GMT -5
Is Talk the biggest radio hit (impression wise) since Perfect?
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Post by Ｓｏｕｎｄｃｌ🕤ｃｋ on Jul 12, 2019 18:19:18 GMT -5
Talk is really overrated, he had much better songs than this.
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Post by fhas on Jul 12, 2019 18:32:10 GMT -5
Is Talk the biggest radio hit (impression wise) since Perfect? 171.0M audience on Mediabase (updated through July 11) - biggest peak since Meant To Be's 201.5M. 126.9M audience on Nielsen (updated through July 7) - biggest peak since High Hopes' 131.7M. This week, it has a chance to beat High Hopes' peak on Nielsen and become the strongest radio #1 (by audience impressions) since Meant To Be (142M). |
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Post by Gary on Jul 12, 2019 18:49:42 GMT -5
Justin Bieber's Remix of Billie Eilish's 'Bad Guy' Is Inspired Fan Service -- But Will It Be Enough to Bump It to No. 1?
7/11/2019 by Andrew Unterberger
After most of a solid week of buildup since Justin Bieber tweeted "REMIX" and the pop sleuths figured out the rest, here it is: the Justin Bieber remix of the current No. 2 song in the country, Billie Eilish's "Bad Guy."
Of course, the foundation for this pairing was laid well before Bieber's tweet. Eilish made no secret of her Belieber past in countless interviews proclaiming him not just an early musical inspiration but also her first love. Ellen DeGeneres played on her Justin Bieber fandom on April Fools Day by teasing her with a surprise Bieb appearance -- on the day she said he finally followed her on Twitter -- even though he never actually materialized on the show. Eilish later revealed to Billboard that Bieber had DM'd her to set up a future collaboration, and two pop stars finally had an IRL meeting during Ariana Grande's headlining set at this year's Coachella festival, hugging it out in front of a whooping crowd.
So it's fair to say that the duo's first collab was much-anticipated at this point. But does the Bieber-starring version of "Bad Guy" live up to the hype?
Well, first let's make sure to note the "Bad Guy" remix is already a triumph for both artists in concept alone. For Bieber, it's a victory lap in which he gets to essentially puff his chest as the decade's reigning Top 40 heartthrob, so pervasive in his early-decade popularity and so continually relevant at decade's close that an artist like Eilish -- the biggest breakout star of 2019 -- would not only continually profess her early-life fandom, but still seem just as geeked to work with him today. (The remix even uses a goofy picture of a young Billie in her Bieber poster-covered bedroom for its YouTube background.) And for Eilish, getting a co-sign from a mainstream idol like Bieber smooths out whatever remaining rough edges might remain on her pop resumé. It allows fans to see the idiosyncratically dressing badass obsessed with death and creepy crawlies as, well, also just a teenage girl, making her more relatable without even seeming off-brand. It's pretty much the definition of a win-win.
But how do their disparate personalities mesh on the song? Well enough, though maybe not quite as well as fans might have hoped. Bieber's clearly having fun with his guest verse and ad-libs -- the remix's high point might come with his mid-verse "skrrt!" exclamation -- but he never seems to totally find his way into the song's manic-spooky energy, instead opting for rap-crooned clunkers like "I got more ice than, than the snow" and "Cause I don't sleep, please don't wake me." The fact that Bieber had something of a Bad Guy rep of his own not all that long ago might've made for a fun opportunity for Bieber to acknowledge his prior image while still making it clear how different 2019 Bieber is from 2014 Bieber. He doesn't even let his voice get chopped up during his turn on the song's already near-iconic "I'm the b-a-a-a-a-a-d guy" hook, which seems like easy money.
Bieber's most interesting line on the song might be his last one: "It ain't political." Not that anyone ever confused Bieber for Zack de la Rocha -- and maybe he just wanted to make sure that no one read anything related to Taylor Swift or Scooter Braun into any of his verse lyrics -- but Bieber's timing with his appearance on the "Bad Guy" remix could actually be seen as a kind of chart-world gerrymandering.
As previously mentioned, Billie's "Bad Guy" is currently sitting at No. 2 on the Billboard Hot 100, and as most of the pop world knows at this point, a different remix -- Lil Nas X's Billy Ray Cyrus-featuring "Old Town Road" -- is currently enjoying a run at history one spot above it. "Bad Guy" is just one of a whopping six songs that have pulled up short at No. 2 during OTR's 14-week run to date -- including entries by superstars Taylor Swift, Shawn Mendes, Post Malone, Ed Sheeran, and (via a guest appearance on Sheeran's "I Don't Care") Bieber himself. It was starting to look like no artist would be able to unseat "Old Town Road" from riding high atop the Hot 100 before it reached those record-making 16th and 17th weeks on top.
And of course, Bieber has more reason than most to be particularly invested in interrupting Lil Nas X's run before it gets to those historic numbers, because of a different remix he hopped on two years ago: Luis Fonsi and Daddy Yankee's "Despacito." The Bieb-featuring version of that song spent 16 weeks atop the Hot 100 in 2017, tying the mark previously set by Mariah Carey and Boyz II Men's "One Sweet Day" two decades earlier. So if Justin can drop in here on the "Bad Guy" remix -- whose performance will be combined with the original's for "Bad Guy" totals in Hot 100 calculations -- to help Eilish get her first Hot 100 No. 1, and defend his place in Billboard lore in the process? Again, certainly sounds like a win-win.
Will it actually happen, though? It won't be easy. As the current Hot 100 No. 2, "Bad Guy" by definition has the shortest distance of any song in the universe to travel to No. 1, but it's still not an insignificant gap -- as of last week, "Old Town Road" still had a nearly 2 to 1 points advantage over Eilish's hit. Being released near the tail end of the Billboard tracking week (Friday-Thursday) also might have the effect of splitting its impact over two tracking weeks, potentially without helping quite enough in either to get it over the top.
That said, the novelty of Eilish and Bieber's first-ever collaboration is immense, as are the fanbases for both stars. The "Bad Guy" remix will no doubt spike a huge surge of immediate interest, but to really pose a threat to "Old Town Road" at No. 1, it'll have to do more than pique curiosity -- it'll have to inspire heavy sales and repeat streams. In other words, the chances for "Bad Guy" to get to No. 1 might depend on how good fans think Justin Bieber is at being Bad.
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Post by jenglisbe on Jul 12, 2019 19:05:19 GMT -5
OTR remix in its potential 16th week at #1, bad guy remix with JB, Ed freaking Sheeran releasing an album with 100 collaborations... what a time to be a charts fan! People keep saying this, but the "threats" have all come and gone fairly quickly. It hasn't actually been as exciting as if there had been some back-and-forth at #1. |
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Post by jayhawk1117 on Jul 12, 2019 19:53:29 GMT -5
OTR remix in its potential 16th week at #1, bad guy remix with JB, Ed freaking Sheeran releasing an album with 100 collaborations... what a time to be a charts fan! People keep saying this, but the "threats" have all come and gone fairly quickly. It hasn't actually been as exciting as if there had been some back-and-forth at #1. "Oh Taylor came within 200 points of it, sooooo hype!" Lol |
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Post by garrettlen on Jul 12, 2019 21:07:36 GMT -5
As a chart watcher, longevity records are boring as hell. High turnover rates are much, much more exciting than seeing the same songs every week performing exactly as you'd expect. You would have loved 1988 and 1989. Not to mention 1974 and 1975 (I guess I just mentioned them). |
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Post by fhas on Jul 13, 2019 11:51:07 GMT -5
People keep saying this, but the "threats" have all come and gone fairly quickly. It hasn't actually been as exciting as if there had been some back-and-forth at #1. "Oh Taylor came within 200 points of it, sooooo hype!" Lol If y'all are excited with 17 number ones in the year... OK I respect that. I just think having one of the (if not THE) most dominant #1s in history is incredible. |
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on Jul 13, 2019 12:08:32 GMT -5
kworb's Billboard Radio Songs Estimates 2019/07/13
1(=) Khalid - Talk 175.05(+1.01)
2(=) Jonas Brothers - Sucker 145.70(-0.59)
3(=) Ed Sheeran & Justin Bieber - I Don't Care 142.62(+0.51)
4(=) Shawn Mendes - If I Can't Have You 108.53(+0.40)
5(=) Billie Eilish & Justin Bieber - bad guy 106.85(+0.45)
6(=) Panic! At the Disco - Hey Look Ma, I Made It 104.65(+0.11)
7(=) Sam Smith & Normani - Dancing with a Stranger 99.61(-2.46)
8(=) Lil Nas X - Old Town Road (feat. Billy Ray Cyrus) [Remix] 90.86(-2.78)
9(=) Post Malone - Wow. 81.84(-1.56)
10(=) Ava Max - Sweet but Psycho 68.10(-0.81)
11(+1) Lizzo - Truth Hurts 66.01(+1.50)
13(+1) Dan + Shay - Speechless 61.96(+0.64) 25(+2) Shawn Mendes & Camila Cabello - Señorita 51.05(+1.64) 53(+2) Lewis Capaldi - Someone You Loved 33.30(+0.70)
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Post by 85la on Jul 13, 2019 17:23:28 GMT -5
OTR remix in its potential 16th week at #1, bad guy remix with JB, Ed freaking Sheeran releasing an album with 100 collaborations... what a time to be a charts fan! All of these collabs are the most laziest, uninteresting and solely-for-charts collabs ever. And we all know OTR will remain at #1, considering the lead isn't close by any means. Honestly not that exciting lol. None of these 30 new singles released this Summer in general by huge artists have actually done huge out of the gate numbers either, aside from Me!, which was because it pulled every single gimmick & just got desperate making you want to root against it. It hasn't been even something to keep you on the edge of the seat because OTR has been lapping these songs with nothing coming close. Right, because OTR had no "lazy, uninteresting, or solely-for-the charts collabs" tacked onto it. That remix with BRC wasn't at all a gimmick and didn't help it on the charts at all! And the other remixes, with Diplo, and now Young Thug and the freakin' yodeling kid for christ's sake? Nope, not at all a gimmick! And the 69 cent discount the last couple weeks absolutely isn't a gimmick to help keep it at #1, I guess the label just decided they want less money for no reason. Yep, just a completely organic, solid hit driven solely by the original solo artist. Please...  |
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Post by wjr15 on Jul 13, 2019 17:36:22 GMT -5
I need a soft pretzel for all this salt...
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Post by annefrankly on Jul 13, 2019 18:08:13 GMT -5
Imagine getting emotional over a bunch of numbers
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Post by iHype. on Jul 13, 2019 18:08:46 GMT -5
All of these collabs are the most laziest, uninteresting and solely-for-charts collabs ever. And we all know OTR will remain at #1, considering the lead isn't close by any means. Honestly not that exciting lol. None of these 30 new singles released this Summer in general by huge artists have actually done huge out of the gate numbers either, aside from Me!, which was because it pulled every single gimmick & just got desperate making you want to root against it. It hasn't been even something to keep you on the edge of the seat because OTR has been lapping these songs with nothing coming close. Right, because OTR had no "lazy, uninteresting, or solely-for-the charts collabs" tacked onto it. That remix with BRC wasn't at all a gimmick and didn't help it on the charts at all! And the other remixes, with Diplo, and now Young Thug and the freakin' yodeling kid for christ's sake? Nope, not at all a gimmick! And the 69 cent discount the last couple weeks absolutely isn't a gimmick to help keep it at #1, I guess the label just decided they want less money for no reason. Yep, just a completely organic, solid hit driven solely by the original solo artist. Please... I was also referring to the Young Thug & Mason Ramsey remix when I said that... All that typing for nothing. |
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Post by annefrankly on Jul 13, 2019 18:08:52 GMT -5
A lot of the people here are a bunch of pussies
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on Jul 13, 2019 19:42:51 GMT -5
According to YT Music charts, Old Town Road got just under twice (23.4 MM) US weekly views than the #2 song Goodbyes (11.8 MM).
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Post by chartslovergermany on Jul 13, 2019 19:51:32 GMT -5
Lmao funny how many (not all) of these OTR stans are acting like pop stans now,but were criticizing them some weeks ago for exactly that behavior🤡
Interesting
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Post by #LisaRinna on Jul 13, 2019 20:52:22 GMT -5
According to YT Music charts, Old Town Road got just under twice (23.4 MM) US weekly views than the #2 song Goodbyes (11.8 MM). -19.4% for OTR. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2019 21:34:28 GMT -5
A lot of the people here are a bunch of pussies annefrankly, i agree |
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Post by tanooki on Jul 13, 2019 22:35:54 GMT -5
"Oh Taylor came within 200 points of it, sooooo hype!" Lol If y'all are excited with 17 number ones in the year... OK I respect that. I just think having one of the (if not THE) most dominant #1s in history is incredible. I cant wait to see what it does in the future tbh. I dont see how it wouldnt make the all time list, but I wonder how large itll be with that formula going forward |
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Post by Enigma. on Jul 14, 2019 0:50:05 GMT -5
Big drop in YT views for OTR, now interesting to see the streaming total according to Billboard. If it's somehow above 80M again, other songs might very well give up lol. If the percentage of Spotify vs. other streaming what fhas calculated is correct this week, OTR should get around 70M streams. |
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Post by 85la on Jul 14, 2019 3:27:43 GMT -5
Right, because OTR had no "lazy, uninteresting, or solely-for-the charts collabs" tacked onto it. That remix with BRC wasn't at all a gimmick and didn't help it on the charts at all! And the other remixes, with Diplo, and now Young Thug and the freakin' yodeling kid for christ's sake? Nope, not at all a gimmick! And the 69 cent discount the last couple weeks absolutely isn't a gimmick to help keep it at #1, I guess the label just decided they want less money for no reason. Yep, just a completely organic, solid hit driven solely by the original solo artist. Please... I was also referring to the Young Thug & Mason Ramsey remix when I said that... All that typing for nothing. Really? It didn't come across that way, but, ok then... |
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Post by 85la on Jul 14, 2019 3:35:20 GMT -5
Imagine getting emotional over a bunch of numbers A lot of the people here are a bunch of pussies I'm not gonna let this go. What a mature, original comment. Clarify who you think is being a "pussy"? And in case you haven't noticed, Pulse is full of people getting emotional over a bunch of numbers. It's the charts of course. |
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Post by Golden Bluebird on Jul 14, 2019 6:24:29 GMT -5
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Post by annefrankly on Jul 14, 2019 9:11:37 GMT -5
Imagine getting emotional over a bunch of numbers A lot of the people here are a bunch of pussies I'm not gonna let this go. What a mature, original comment. Clarify who you think is being a "pussy"? And in case you haven't noticed, Pulse is full of people getting emotional over a bunch of numbers. It's the charts of course. Someones getting a lil too mad over some letters on a screen. If you wanna talk about being mature, then you wouldn’t care bout what people have to say on the internet, pussy |
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