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Post by #brayden on Sept 4, 2023 20:23:31 GMT -5
If Taylor wanted to make a music video for this she would. It's as simple as that. There's no shortage of money on her end.
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Post by ificanthaveyou on Sept 4, 2023 22:47:41 GMT -5
If Taylor wanted to make a music video for this she would. It's as simple as that. There's no shortage of money on her end. And a few dance remixes literally costs next to nothing. Lavender Haze got like 6
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2023 1:52:17 GMT -5
Obviously this is a massive hit, but I don't see harm in discussing why it didn't get the extra push to go #1 in the Hot100, especially since it's a weird case both for Taylor and in the music industry in general. Its hit status is never questioned for not having reached 1. It will probabably be more remembered than other Taylor singles that peaked higher, similarly to Love Story, and also probably more than the two songs over it when it peaked. Of course not but to say it won't have a legacy because of it is pretty ridiculous
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Post by fearlessarrow on Sept 5, 2023 5:51:17 GMT -5
POP: 1 2 TAYLOR SWIFT Cruel Summer 15813 16453 -640 49.104
-60 Spins -114 Bullet +0.067 Audience
HOT AC: 1 1 TAYLOR SWIFT Cruel Summer 5839 5990 -151 22.336
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AC: 8 8 TAYLOR SWIFT Cruel Summer 991 916 75 7.341
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Post by Maximillian on Sept 5, 2023 7:33:55 GMT -5
If Taylor wanted to make a music video for this she would. It's as simple as that. There's no shortage of money on her end. Of course if she wanted to she could, but perhaps between the biggest tour of all time, two album releases and her various other projects she just didnβt want to. And thatβs still ok. Because she does literally everything else for her fans. Sheβs a human being and a 4 year old song maybe wasnβt her priority with such little down time.
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Post by ificanthaveyou on Sept 5, 2023 14:09:57 GMT -5
If Taylor wanted to make a music video for this she would. It's as simple as that. There's no shortage of money on her end. Of course if she wanted to she could, but perhaps between the biggest tour of all time, two album releases and her various other projects she just didnβt want to. And thatβs still ok. Because she does literally everything else for her fans. Sheβs a human being and a 4 year old song maybe wasnβt her priority with such little down time. Doesnβt excuse why the label didnβt commission a few dance remixesβ¦. It almost feels like they didnβt want this to smash too hard, maybe because of 1989 (TV) but something is happening behind the scenes to explain why they didnβt promote this
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Post by musiclife on Sept 5, 2023 14:16:48 GMT -5
Of course if she wanted to she could, but perhaps between the biggest tour of all time, two album releases and her various other projects she just didnβt want to. And thatβs still ok. Because she does literally everything else for her fans. Sheβs a human being and a 4 year old song maybe wasnβt her priority with such little down time. Doesnβt excuse why the label didnβt commission a few dance remixesβ¦. It almost feels like they didnβt want this to smash too hard, maybe because of 1989 (TV) but something is happening behind the scenes to explain why they didnβt promote this I can guarantee they have something lined up for 1989 single wise.
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Post by jenglisbe on Sept 5, 2023 14:46:34 GMT -5
Obviously this is a massive hit, but I don't see harm in discussing why it didn't get the extra push to go #1 in the Hot100, especially since it's a weird case both for Taylor and in the music industry in general. Its hit status is never questioned for not having reached 1. It will probabably be more remembered than other Taylor singles that peaked higher, similarly to Love Story, and also probably more than the two songs over it when it peaked. It would be fine if there was something to truly discuss, but it's really just people complaining lol. Maybe Taylor just wanted to let "CS" do whatever it was going to do, and leave it there (especially since the tour and the Speak Now TV were her focus). Fans should be proud of how well "Cruel Summer" has done literally on its own. It's a true organic hit, which is something to be celebrated. More so, as has been said Hot 100 peak isn't really the mark of an enduring hit. This will surely be remembered more than "willow" despite that one hitting #1.
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Post by Ivy Leegueβ’ on Sept 5, 2023 15:05:19 GMT -5
I'm actually shocked this didn't make it to #1 on the Hot 100, with all the hysteria around it, but yeah, a #2 from 4 albums ago is certainly an amazing accomplishment. I'm sure Taylor is proud.
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Post by Maximillian on Sept 5, 2023 15:53:55 GMT -5
Of course if she wanted to she could, but perhaps between the biggest tour of all time, two album releases and her various other projects she just didnβt want to. And thatβs still ok. Because she does literally everything else for her fans. Sheβs a human being and a 4 year old song maybe wasnβt her priority with such little down time. Doesnβt excuse why the label didnβt commission a few dance remixesβ¦. It almost feels like they didnβt want this to smash too hard, maybe because of 1989 (TV) but something is happening behind the scenes to explain why they didnβt promote this Yes, you've brought this up ad nauseam. While I don't disagree with you, because at this point they have had enough time, what else is there to say on the matter? Could she have done a tour video? Sure. Remixes? Yep. Rent-a-rapper remix? Absolutely. The truth is, this came SO close to #1 organically and was blocked by two unique things. If you told me "Rich Men North of Richmond" was going to blast to #1 and block this, I would have laughed. Fast Car has had wild longevity in that #2 spot also. Yet, here we are. Her label and team probably just thought "hey, this has a chance of going #1 on its own, we have other things to worry about right now". Again, that is absolutely OK. This was a hit. A certifiable, history making, once in a lifetime hit. I think we can ALL agree, we hoped to see a video, remixes, etc., but if they aren't coming, isn't it time to accept reality and enjoy the song for what it was? I have a feeling you will still be stanning TS tomorrow and the next day anyways (as we all will be). :)
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Post by Choco on Sept 5, 2023 16:24:06 GMT -5
I'm actually shocked this didn't make it to #1 on the Hot 100, with all the hysteria around it, but yeah, a #2 from 4 albums ago is certainly an amazing accomplishment. I'm sure Taylor is proud. #3* For all the talk about it being blocked it never actually reached #2 (so far?)
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Post by kcdawg13 on Sept 5, 2023 16:36:14 GMT -5
No offense to Taylor but she always pushes for her hits, she always throws out a million remixes, a bunch of alternative digital covers and all that stuff to get her singles to go #1 or stay #1. She did it with all the Midnight singles, and that's fine. However it's nice once in a while to just let a single ride the wave organically, a No. 3 peak is nothing to scoff at, especially for a 4 year old deepcut, I like that approach.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2023 5:56:52 GMT -5
No offense to Taylor but she always pushes for her hits, she always throws out a million remixes, a bunch of alternative digital covers and all that stuff to get her singles to go #1 or stay #1. She did it with all the Midnight singles, and that's fine. However it's nice once in a while to just let a single ride the wave organically, a No. 3 peak is nothing to scoff at, especially for a 4 year old deepcut, I like that approach. Why would that be offensive tho?
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Post by Az Paynter on Sept 6, 2023 7:23:26 GMT -5
POP: 1 3 TAYLOR SWIFT Cruel Summer 15792 16424 -632 49.030
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HOT AC: 1 1 TAYLOR SWIFT Cruel Summer 5798 5989 -191 22.296
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AC: 8 8 TAYLOR SWIFT Cruel Summer 1010 932 78 7.435
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Post by Dan G. on Sept 6, 2023 17:38:38 GMT -5
Not to drag this out any longer, but IF (major if) this can keep its spin losses to a minimum, I wouldn't totally rule out a resurgence the weekend the concert film gets released. Streams will no doubt get a massive boost from it, but radio airplay may have dipped too far by then.
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Post by musiclife on Sept 7, 2023 0:06:28 GMT -5
Not to drag this out any longer, but IF (major if) this can keep its spin losses to a minimum, I wouldn't totally rule out a resurgence the weekend the concert film gets released. Streams will no doubt get a massive boost from it, but radio airplay may have dipped too far by then. Yeah, that's a little more than a month away. It's already too late, by then it will be too far gone.
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Post by fearlessarrow on Sept 7, 2023 5:46:17 GMT -5
POP: 1 3 TAYLOR SWIFT Cruel Summer 15863 16333 -470 48.998
+71 Spins +162 Bullet -0.032 Audience
HOT AC: 1 1 TAYLOR SWIFT Cruel Summer 5769 5992 -223 22.355
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AC: 8 8 TAYLOR SWIFT Cruel Summer 1026 962 64 7.506
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Post by fearlessarrow on Sept 8, 2023 4:50:28 GMT -5
"Vampire" drops below this one on Pop while "Dance The Night" overtakes this one on HAC.
POP: 1 2 TAYLOR SWIFT Cruel Summer 15766 16286 -520 48.480
-97 Spins -50 Bullet -0.518 Audience
HOT AC: 1 2 TAYLOR SWIFT Cruel Summer 5692 5966 -274 22.273
-77 Spins -51 Bullet -0.082 Audience
AC: 8 8 TAYLOR SWIFT Cruel Summer 1017 1002 15 7.552
-9 Spins -49 Bullet +0.046 Audience
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Post by ificanthaveyou on Sept 8, 2023 4:59:45 GMT -5
I wonder if Pop will drop Vampire and Dance the Night like a rock and allow Cruel Summer another week at #1
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Post by Az Paynter on Sept 8, 2023 6:24:31 GMT -5
Something's off about today's update (across the board, not just this). Did we lose more stations? Some iHeart or radio event cutting into regular airplay? Hurricane weather interfering with some stations' ability to broadcast?
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Post by Taylor. on Sept 8, 2023 15:55:22 GMT -5
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Post by ificanthaveyou on Sept 8, 2023 16:06:04 GMT -5
Lol the curse of #2s continues, deservedly so in this case.
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Post by Dylan :) on Sept 9, 2023 1:35:01 GMT -5
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Post by fearlessarrow on Sept 9, 2023 5:50:27 GMT -5
"Vampire" looks like it's in freefall mode, whether this can return to #1 in the near future depends on "Dance The Night" (and how fast "Barbie World" rises) and of course how this one holds.
POP: 1 2 TAYLOR SWIFT Cruel Summer 15819 16128 -309 48.500
+53 Spins +211 Bullet +0.020 Audience
HOT AC: 1 2 TAYLOR SWIFT Cruel Summer 5677 5938 -261 22.379
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AC: 8 8 TAYLOR SWIFT Cruel Summer 1036 1018 18 7.466
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Post by π Eloquent β’ on Sept 9, 2023 14:34:53 GMT -5
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Post by fearlessarrow on Sept 10, 2023 5:36:57 GMT -5
POP: 2 2 TAYLOR SWIFT Cruel Summer 15947 15784 163 48.759
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HOT AC: 1 2 TAYLOR SWIFT Cruel Summer 5679 5859 -180 22.404
+2 Spins +81 Bullet +0.025 Audience
AC: 8 8 TAYLOR SWIFT Cruel Summer 1038 1018 20 7.367
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Post by livelikedying111 on Sept 10, 2023 5:52:54 GMT -5
POP:2 2 TAYLOR SWIFT Cruel Summer 15947 15784 163 48.759 +128 Spins +472 Bullet +0.259 Audience HOT AC:1 2 TAYLOR SWIFT Cruel Summer 5679 5859 -180 22.404 +2 Spins +81 Bullet +0.025 Audience AC:8 8 TAYLOR SWIFT Cruel Summer 1038 1018 20 7.367 +2 Spins +2 Bullet -0.099 Audience Everyone but her want it to succeed, LOL. I'm shocked at the fact that if it hadn't been for Doja, this would have been a UK #1!
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Post by musiclife on Sept 10, 2023 9:24:30 GMT -5
Lol maybe she'll release a video prior to the concert movie? Cruel Summer hopefully isn't finished yet.
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Post by Marooned@Midnight on Sept 10, 2023 9:53:30 GMT -5
Rise from the ashes!!!
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Post by eyeofthestorm on Sept 10, 2023 12:00:14 GMT -5
Strange voices are saying (ah, what did they say?)
Things I can't understand
It's too close to comfort, this heat has got
Right out of hand
It's a cruel, (cruel) cruel summer
#moodaboutthissongsHot100run
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