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Post by kindofbiased on Nov 16, 2019 13:37:11 GMT -5
Surprised to see so much Everything I Wanted hate in this thread.. Iβve seen a really warm reception everywhere else and I think itβs stunning. I could easily see it hitting #1 in the next few weeks especially considering how weak the charts are at the moment
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Post by degen on Nov 16, 2019 14:14:31 GMT -5
Anyone know how many weeks βPaniniβ has been in the top 10 now? So much for Lil Nas X being a one hit wonder.
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Post by moonlite on Nov 16, 2019 14:21:34 GMT -5
Anyone know how many weeks βPaniniβ has been in the top 10 now? So much for Lil Nas X being a one hit wonder. Paniniβs been in the top 10 for 8 weeks now |
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Post by Enigma. on Nov 16, 2019 15:14:10 GMT -5
Lil Nas X can still end up being remembered for just one song, just like Vanilla Ice who has two top ten hits, or come and go fast like Taio Cruz who has two massive hits but disappeared after two years.
Too early to tell.
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Post by divasummer on Nov 16, 2019 16:33:29 GMT -5
Lil Nas X can still end up being remembered for just one song, just like Vanilla Ice who has two top ten hits, or come and go fast like Taio Cruz who has two massive hits but disappeared after two years. Too early to tell. Being a chart watcher this is my BIGGEST pet peeve. Especially when I used to watch those VH1 1 Hit Wonder show's. Half the artists used to have 2 hits like "MarkY Mark" "Good Vibrations" wasn't his only hit. There was also "Wildside"... lol |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2019 16:49:03 GMT -5
Lil Nas X can still end up being remembered for just one song, just like Vanilla Ice who has two top ten hits, or come and go fast like Taio Cruz who has two massive hits but disappeared after two years. Too early to tell. Being a chart watcher this is my BIGGEST pet peeve. Especially when I used to watch those VH1 1 Hit Wonder show's. Half the artists used to have 2 hits like "MarkY Mark" "Good Vibrations" wasn't his only hit. There was also "Wildside"... lol Blame it on a black man... W H A T T H E H E C C ? |
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Post by Choco on Nov 16, 2019 17:16:08 GMT -5
Surprised to see so much Everything I Wanted hate in this thread.. Iβve seen a really warm reception everywhere else and I think itβs stunning. I could easily see it hitting #1 in the next few weeks especially considering how weak the charts are at the moment I'm kind of fine with the hate. It reminds me a bit of other underrated artists that started slow like Dua Lipa: when they're struggling and getting no hits everyone loves them... once the haters start appearing, you know it's because they've finally made it. I like the track FWIW. I didn't expect her to completely go for the banger / "bad guy" easy hits. It's very much on the same vein as "when the party's over", "lovely" or "xanny". |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2019 17:30:07 GMT -5
Lil Nas X can still end up being remembered for just one song, just like Vanilla Ice who has two top ten hits, or come and go fast like Taio Cruz who has two massive hits but disappeared after two years. Too early to tell. Being a chart watcher this is my BIGGEST pet peeve. Especially when I used to watch those VH1 1 Hit Wonder show's.Half the artists used to have 2 hits like "MarkY Mark" "Good Vibrations" wasn't his only hit.
There was also "Wildside"... lolI have their 100 Greatest One Hit Wonder's show on CD. Good countdown but I agree with you about that. |
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Post by dann on Nov 16, 2019 17:40:36 GMT -5
Some people here on the pulse are very quick to call Lil Nas X a one hit wonder, I'd rather wait what he will do in 2020 to draw my conclusions.
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Post by Choco on Nov 16, 2019 17:42:05 GMT -5
Lil Nas X strikes me as the sort of gimmick-y act that won't last long. But hey, he already has two big hits, anything could happen.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2019 17:58:05 GMT -5
If anything, I feel like Lil Nas X will be like Fetty Wap. 3 big hits before completely falling off the face of the earth. But I guess he has some sort of a personality, so maybe heβd be able to still rack up some minor hits
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Post by sirskimask on Nov 16, 2019 18:01:35 GMT -5
If anything, I feel like Lil Nas X will be like Fetty Wap. 3 big hits before completely falling off the face of the earth. But I guess he has some sort of a personality, so maybe heβd be able to still rack up some minor hits Yeah, he has a very active Twitter and it's a goldmine of memes so I feel like based on that alone he'll have solid enough buzz to last a while |
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Post by b4thegoodbye on Nov 16, 2019 18:08:27 GMT -5
Looks like you can probably forget about Beautiful Ghosts charting. Must be a first for Taylor. All the drama completely overshadowed it. Iβm quite surprised it didnβt even go Top 3 on iTunes.. what was the last Taylor promo track/new release to miss iTunes Top 3 (outside of album bomb weeks of course!)? |
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Post by Au$tin on Nov 16, 2019 21:01:23 GMT -5
Looks like you can probably forget about Beautiful Ghosts charting. Must be a first for Taylor. All the drama completely overshadowed it. Iβm quite surprised it didnβt even go Top 3 on iTunes.. what was the last Taylor promo track/new release to miss iTunes Top 3 (outside of album bomb weeks of course!)? Sweeter Than Fiction, her last track for a movie. |
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Post by lugus15 on Nov 17, 2019 0:47:43 GMT -5
I really do wonder how long the current ¨weakness¨ of the charts is going to last. No current charting song seems or sounds like the next multiple-week #1.
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Post by iHype. on Nov 17, 2019 0:51:08 GMT -5
If anything, I feel like Lil Nas X will be like Fetty Wap. 3 big hits before completely falling off the face of the earth. But I guess he has some sort of a personality, so maybe heβd be able to still rack up some minor hits He reminds me of Soulja Boy. |
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Post by Abbaschand on Nov 17, 2019 6:09:56 GMT -5
If anything, I feel like Lil Nas X will be like Fetty Wap. 3 big hits before completely falling off the face of the earth. But I guess he has some sort of a personality, so maybe heβd be able to still rack up some minor hits He reminds me of Soulja Boy. So in the future he'll sell a videogame console illegally, and he'll get a lawsuit from Nintendo? |
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Post by Enigma. on Nov 17, 2019 8:09:17 GMT -5
Well it's a career move!
Seriously though, in the UK for instance, LNX has so far charted three times, at #1, #21 and #55 (Rodeo). It's a long way to go for him if he's going to stabilise his status in the industry.
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Post by kingvavis on Nov 17, 2019 8:09:46 GMT -5
He reminds me of Soulja Boy. So in the future he'll sell a videogame console illegally, and he'll get a lawsuit from Nintendo? The Lil Nas X Box |
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Post by dremolus - solarpunk on Nov 17, 2019 9:48:54 GMT -5
Imagine though if the future in the Panini music video comes true. Lil Nas X as our ruler.
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Post by b4thegoodbye on Nov 17, 2019 12:15:15 GMT -5
Iβm quite surprised it didnβt even go Top 3 on iTunes.. what was the last Taylor promo track/new release to miss iTunes Top 3 (outside of album bomb weeks of course!)? Sweeter Than Fiction, her last track for a movie. thats a good comparison then.. and that went Top 40 on billboard.. but I guess sales may have helped that more so than they will help for this one.. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2019 13:31:31 GMT -5
Some people here on the pulse are very quick to call Lil Nas X a one hit wonder, I'd rather wait what he will do in 2020 to draw my conclusions. He's already had a second hit (although having more than one hit didn't stop Rick Astley or Vanilla Ice from being remembered as one hit wonders. |
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Post by Fat Ass Kelly Price on Nov 17, 2019 13:39:20 GMT -5
When will chart watchers realize that OHW status is more about perception and cultural impact NOT actual chart performance.
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Post by moonlite on Nov 17, 2019 13:54:02 GMT -5
When will chart watchers realize that OHW status is more about perception and cultural impact NOT actual chart performance. Exactly. This is why I think Lil Nas will end up being considered a OHW (its still early but...). Panini is doing well on the charts currently sure, but I don't see it having any cultural impact longterm and in the future. |
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Post by Enigma. on Nov 17, 2019 13:57:32 GMT -5
Khalid's new track seems to be a big flop. Is it promoted as a single?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2019 14:49:16 GMT -5
95% of chart hits have no impact beyond the year after they were first a hit. By this logic far more artists should be considered one (or no-) hit wonders. Mariah has 28 top 10s; can you name all of them without pulling up her discography? And if you can't, does that mean she doesn't actually have 28 top 10 hits? The argument about perception should reasonably fall apart when it becomes apparent that other people have a different perception from your own, and there's not really anything that makes your perception the superior POV other than your own ego and refusal to acknowledge that hey, maybe you were not correct about something.
What about the hits that were forgotten and then randomly revived decades later? I'm pretty sure once the '80s passed, no one was thinking about Never Gonna Give You Up until 4chan turned it into a meme. Are you really going to let 4chan of all things determine your perception of reality?! Not to mention (no shade to anyone meant by this), a lot of chart watchers now were either not born or very, very young when many of the artists in question were around, and many of the older chart watchers who are still around tend to lose base with what is current as time marches on and they become disinterested in new trends. My recollection of things is naturally going to be quite different from that of someone 20 years younger than I am; that is to be expected and completely ok.
I will stick with recorded stats because written history is the only way we have to verify whether or not something truly 'happened.' Even that is a bit shaky, but it's better than creating these perception wars which can never be resoloved.
Now, I think a better argument would be whether songs that hit the top 10 in week one and then disappear in less than a month or two should be considered hits. There has to be a balance of peak and longevity IMO for a song to be considered a true hit. Album bombs and less sustaining viral trends muddy the waters. But that isn't usually an issue for anyone pre-2012, and I would say that after two+ months in the top 10 alone, it's not the case for LNX now.
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Post by dann on Nov 17, 2019 15:09:21 GMT -5
Lil Nas X will still have people's attention for a while, he plans to release an album next year, maybe he gets one more hit. He is very good with hooks and has an amazing ability to generate content with his songs. I just think people here kind of hope he is an OHW and maybe he will become, every new artist is subject to this, especially with the expectations after a big debut single. But I really root for him, he has a very fun personality.
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Post by moonlite on Nov 17, 2019 15:22:11 GMT -5
95% of chart hits have no impact beyond the year after they were first a hit. By this logic far more artists should be considered one (or no-) hit wonders. Mariah has 28 top 10s; can you name all of them without pulling up her discography? And if you can't, does that mean she doesn't actually have 28 top 10 hits? The argument about perception should reasonably fall apart when it becomes apparent that other people have a different perception from your own, and there's not really anything that makes your perception the superior POV other than your own ego and refusal to acknowledge that hey, maybe you were not correct about something. The general public doesnβt follow charts, so yes it has everything to do with perception. Im not saying itβs correct or not, but thats the reason why some artists are considered OHW even if they had a smaller less remembered hit. That Mariah example also doesnβt make sense because 1. I may be wrong, but I donβt think there was any one particular song early in her career that she was known for much more than any other. And 2. People who are known as one hit wonders dont typically have 28 top 10s over 20+ some years.... |
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Post by chanman on Nov 17, 2019 15:41:38 GMT -5
After listening to all the new tracks for this week, I like the most edible ones.
Harry Styles - Watermelon Sugar and Train/Skylar Grey - Mai Tais !!!
Indulge in them.
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Post by iggyamo on Nov 17, 2019 16:30:40 GMT -5
Khalid's new track seems to be a big flop. Is it promoted as a single? I believe so, but it may be retaliation to Talk being one of the most annoyingly overplayed songs in recent memory, I donβt know a single person who can stand that song any more. At least Truth Hurts was good enough to at least n it get the retaliation that Khalid seems to be receiving |
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