mikerivera
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Post by mikerivera on Dec 3, 2020 18:37:08 GMT -5
Okay yeah i miscounted, it would be 2023
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Post by nathanalbright on Dec 3, 2020 19:19:05 GMT -5
From my predictions, Lemonade (predicted #86) is the highest song that missed the actual year-end, since Crooked Smile (predicted #86, 2013). FYI: The lowest song that made it to the actual year-end, is Hello (predicted #196, made it in #35, 2015). That's the difference between inverse points and chart points, I guess. |
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Post by ๐ฒ๐ฝ'๐ผ.๐ฐ๐ฟ on Dec 3, 2020 19:44:11 GMT -5
Missed opportunity to have "I Hope" end up at #11 instead of #12 so that it would pair up with last year's #11 which also has "Hope" in its name, which is P!ATD's "High Hopes". The idea of both songs hoping at ending at the Top 10 yet they didn't is crazy.
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Post by Raccoon on Dec 3, 2020 23:38:36 GMT -5
The Current Year-End Streaks circa. 2020 Drake 2009-2020 (12) Ariana Grande 2013-2020 (8) Shawn Mendes 2015-2020 (6) Justin Bieber 2015-2020 (6) Selena Gomez 2015-2020 (6) Post Malone 2016-2020 (5) Travis Scott 2016-2020 (5) Halsey 2016-2020 (5) Camilla Cabello 2016-2020 (5) Young Thug 2016-2020 (5) J Balvin 2017-2020 (4) Kane Brown 2017-2020 (4) Maroon 5 2017-2020 (4) Cardi B 2017-2020 (4) Luke Combs 2017-2020 (4) Khalid 2017-2020 (4) Marshmello 2018-2020 (3) Juice WRLD 2018-2020 (3) Lil Baby 2018-2020 (3) Chris Brown 2018-2020 (3) Dan + Shay 2018-2020 (3) |
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Post by inverse on Dec 4, 2020 3:08:19 GMT -5
Just as an illustration of how busted covid made this chart year. Not complaining tbh it's just interesting. The first column is Everything I Wanted's weeks from highest to lowest and the second is Roses.
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n13l5
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Post by n13l5 on Dec 4, 2020 4:36:55 GMT -5
Even Though im leaving ended a lot higher than expected
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Post by Lost In Musical Reverie on Dec 4, 2020 4:56:13 GMT -5
When I saw the early 2020 songs were lower than expected ("Slide", "Pu$$y Fairy"), I was worried for a moment that "Even Though I'm Leaving" somehow missed it, but thankfully, that wasn't the case.
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Groovy
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Post by Groovy on Dec 4, 2020 9:47:55 GMT -5
Do you think Circles would've topped the year end if it went to 1 the weeks AIWFCIY did?
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Post by gikem on Dec 4, 2020 9:51:57 GMT -5
Do you think Circles would've topped the year end if it went to 1 the weeks AIWFCIY did? Would this be if it had more points than AIWFCIY or if the Christmas songs werenโt charting at all? Because either way, I think BL would still be the YE #1. |
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Post by Groovy on Dec 4, 2020 10:15:33 GMT -5
How every top 10 would look like without Christmas music (2019-2020)
December 14, 2019
1. Heartless- The Weeknd
2. Circles- Post Malone
3. Someone You Loved- Lewis Capaldi
4. Memories- Maroon 5
5. Good as Hell- Lizzo
6. ROXANNE- Arizona Zervas
7. Lose You to Love Me- Selena Gomez
8. 10,000 Hours- Dan + Shay & Justin Bieber
9. Blinding Lights- The Weeknd
10. BOP- DaBaby
December 21, 2019
1. Circles- Post Malone
2. Someone You Loved- Lewis Capaldi
3. Good as Hell- Lizzo
4. ROXANNE- Arizona Zervas
5. Memories- Maroon 5
6. Lucid Dreams- Juice WRLD
7. Dance Monkey- Tones & I
8. BOP- DaBaby
9. Bandit- Juice WRLD feat. Youngboy Never Broke Again
10. Lose You to Love Me- Selena Gomez
December 28, 2019
1. Circles- Post Malone
2. ROXANNE- Arizona Zervas
3. Futsal Shuffle- Lil Uzi Vert
4. Memories- Maroon 5
5. Someone You Loved- Lewis Capaldi
6. Good as Hell- Lizzo
7. Dance Monkey- Tones & I
8. Lose You to Love Me- Selena Gomez
9. 10,000 Hours- Dan + Shay & Justin Bieber
10. Ballin'- Mustard feat. Roddy Ricch
January 3rd, 2020
1. Circles- Post Malone
2. ROXANNE- Arizona Zervas
3. Someone You Loved- Lewis Capaldi
4. Memories- Maroon 5
5. Good as Hell- Lizzo
6. The Box- Roddy Ricch
7. Dance Monkey- Tones & I
8. 10,000 Hours- Dan + Shay & Justin Bieber
9. Lose You to Love Me- Selena Gomez
10. Ballin'- Mustard feat. Roddy Ricch
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Post by Abbaschand on Dec 5, 2020 4:52:30 GMT -5
^ Still mad that BOP and Ballin' never made it to top 10.
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Post by Groovy on Dec 5, 2020 10:15:28 GMT -5
Another interesting one I wanted to do, every top 10 without album bombs
March 21, 2020 (Lil Uzi Vert)
1. The Box- Roddy Ricch
2. Don't Start Now- Dua Lipa
3. Life Is Good- Future feat. Drake
4. Blinding Lights- The Weeknd
5. Circles- Post Malone
6. ROXANNE- Arizona Zervas
7. Intentions- Justin Bieber feat. Quavo
8. Dance Monkey- Tones & I
9. Memories- Maroon 5
10. everything i wanted- Billie Eilish
May 2, 2020 (DaBaby)
1. Blinding Lights- The Weeknd
2. Toosie Slide- Drake
3. The Box- Roddy Ricch
4. Don't Start Now- Dua Lipa
5. Say So- Doja Cat
6. Circles- Post Malone
7. Adore You- Harry Styles
8. Intetions- Justin Bieber feat. Quavo
9. Life Is Good- Future feat. Drake
10. everything i wanted- Billie Eilish
May 16, 2020 (Drake)
1. Say So- Doja Cat feat. Nicki Minaj
2. Savage- Megan thee Stallion feat. Beyonce
3. Blinding Lights- The Weeknd
4. Toosie Slide- Drake
5. The Box- Roddy Ricch
6. Don't Start Now- Dua Lipa
7. Circles- Post Malone
8. ROCKSTAR- DaBaby feat. Roddy Ricch
9. Intentions- Justin Bieber feat. Quavo
10. Adore You- Harry Styles
July 18, 2020 (Pop Smoke)
1. ROCKSTAR- DaBaby feat. Roddy Ricch
2. Blinding Lights- The Weeknd
3. WHATS POPPIN- Jack Harlow
4. Savage- Megan thee Stallion feat. Beyonce
5. Roses- Saint Jhn
6. Watermelon Sugar- Harry Styles
7. Blueberry Faygo- Lil Mosey
8. Say So- Doja Cat
9. Intentions- Justin Bieber feat. Quavo
10. Adore You- Harry Styles
July 25, 2020 (Juice WRLD)
1. ROCKSTAR- DaBaby feat. Roddy Ricch
2. WHATS POPPIN- Jack Harlow
3. Blinding Lights- The Weeknd
4. Savage- Megan thee Stallion feat. Beyonce
5. Roses- Saint Jhn
6. Watermelon Sugar- Harry Styles
7. Blueberry Faygo- Lil Mosey
8. Adore You- Harry Styles
9. Say So- Doja Cat
10. Savage Love- Jawsh 685 x Jason Derulo
August 8, 2020 (Taylor Swift)
1. ROCKSTAR- DaBaby feat. Roddy Ricch
2. WHATS POPPIN- Jack Harlow
3. Blinding Lights- The Weeknd
4. Watermelon Sugar- Harry Styles
5. Roses- Saint Jhn
6. Savage- Megan thee Stallion feat. Beyonce
7. Savage Love- Jawsh 685 x Jason Derulo
8. Blueberry Faygo- Lil Mosey
9. Go Crazy- Chris Brown & Young Thug
10. Popstar- DJ Khaled feat. Drake
October 17, 2020 (21 Savage & Metro Boomin)
1. Savage Love- Jawsh 685 x Jason Derulo x BTS
2. Dynamite- BTS
3. WAP- Cardi B feat. Megan thee Stallion
4. Mood- 24KGoldn feat. Iann Dior
5. Laugh Now Cry Later- Drake feat. Lil Durk
6. Blinding Lights- The Weeknd
7. ROCKSTAR- DaBaby feat. Roddy Ricch
8. I Hope- Gabby Barrett feat. Charlie Puth
9. Watermelon Sugar- Harry Styles
10. Lemonade- Internet Money & Gunna feat. Don Toliver & Nav
November 14, 2020 (Ariana Grande)
1. Mood- 24KGoldn feat. Iann Dior
2. positions- Ariana Grande
3. Laugh Now Cry Later- Drake feat. Lil Durk
4. Blinding Lights- The Weeknd
5. I Hope- Gabby Barrett feat. Charlie Puth
6. Savage Love- Jawsh 685 x Jason Derulo
7. Lemonade- Internet Money & Gunna feat. Don Toliver
8. Dakiti- Bad Bunny & Jhay Cortez
9. WAP- Cardi B feat. Megan thee Stallion
10. Holy- Justin Bieber feat. Chance the Rapper
December 5, 2020 (BTS & Megan thee Stallion)
1. Mood- 24KGoldn feat. Iann Dior
2. positions- Ariana Grande
3. I Hope- Gabby Barrett feat. Charlie Puth
4. Holy- Justin Bieber feat. Chance the Rapper
5. Laugh Now Cry Later- Drake feat. Lil Durk
6. Monster- Shawn Mendes & Justin Bieber
7. Blinding Lights- The Weeknd
8. Lemonade- Internet Money & Gunna feat. Don Toliver & Nav
9. Therefore I Am- Billie Eilish
10. All I Want For Christmas Is You- Mariah Carey
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Post by GPMB on Dec 5, 2020 21:03:21 GMT -5
Even Though im leaving ended a lot higher than expected a lot of songs that had all their weeks within the first few months or so of the chart year (Hot, Panini, AIWFCIY, Bandit) did as well, I'm betting it's that the Christmas effect on chart points was a lot greater than anyone really predicted it to be |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2020 21:22:33 GMT -5
Even Though im leaving ended a lot higher than expected a lot of songs that had all their weeks within the first few months or so of the chart year (Hot, Panini, AIWFCIY, Bandit) did as well, I'm betting it's that the Christmas effect on chart points was a lot greater than anyone really predicted it to be I'd guess it's more that the Coronavirus caused a sizeable points drop from March onwards, thus giving Winter 2019-20 hits an advantage. I think a similar thing will play out in the 2021 chart year if COVID ends at some point, giving songs from later in the chart year an edge. |
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Post by gikem on Dec 5, 2020 21:57:06 GMT -5
a lot of songs that had all their weeks within the first few months or so of the chart year (Hot, Panini, AIWFCIY, Bandit) did as well, I'm betting it's that the Christmas effect on chart points was a lot greater than anyone really predicted it to be I'd guess it's more that the Coronavirus caused a sizeable points drop from March onwards, thus giving Winter 2019-20 hits an advantage. I think a similar thing will play out in the 2021 chart year if COVID ends at some point, giving songs from later in the chart year an edge. I think the gradual removal of UGC throughout the year and the "downweighting" of radio around the end of May also played a heavy part in this. Both of these resulted in more points for songs during the first half of the year, especially hits driven by either of those factors. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2020 21:59:08 GMT -5
I'd guess it's more that the Coronavirus caused a sizeable points drop from March onwards, thus giving Winter 2019-20 hits an advantage. I think a similar thing will play out in the 2021 chart year if COVID ends at some point, giving songs from later in the chart year an edge. I think the gradual removal of UGC throughout the year and the "downweighting" of radio around the end of May also played a heavy part in this. Both of these resulted in more points for songs during the first half of the year, especially hits driven by either of those factors. What does UGC stand for? |
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Post by gikem on Dec 5, 2020 22:02:14 GMT -5
I think the gradual removal of UGC throughout the year and the "downweighting" of radio around the end of May also played a heavy part in this. Both of these resulted in more points for songs during the first half of the year, especially hits driven by either of those factors. What does UGC stand for? User-Generated Content. Basically short clips of the song on YouTube (usually TikTok or meme compilations) or fan-made/third-party videos containing the entire song. Bad Guy was a prime example of a song driven heavily by UGC, which might explain why it ended up in the top half of the YE unlike what most people predicted. |
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Post by GPMB on Dec 6, 2020 0:57:49 GMT -5
I'd guess it's more that the Coronavirus caused a sizeable points drop from March onwards, thus giving Winter 2019-20 hits an advantage. I think a similar thing will play out in the 2021 chart year if COVID ends at some point, giving songs from later in the chart year an edge. I think the gradual removal of UGC throughout the year and the "downweighting" of radio around the end of May also played a heavy part in this. Both of these resulted in more points for songs during the first half of the year, especially hits driven by either of those factors. yes but I feel like this effect was present a lot more for songs with all their weeks at the *very* beginning of the year, not like up to mid-March, for example Juicy and Trampoline ended up at around the same spots people were predicting them to |
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Post by atg on Dec 6, 2020 13:50:21 GMT -5
I know its a complete long shot, but letโs just say a song by The Weeknd will be #1 of YE 2020 Couple days late, but now itโs official :) |
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Post by brady47 on Dec 6, 2020 17:58:21 GMT -5
How every top 10 would look like without Christmas music (2019-2020) December 14, 2019 1. Heartless- The Weeknd 2. Circles- Post Malone 3. Someone You Loved- Lewis Capaldi 4. Memories- Maroon 5 5. Good as Hell- Lizzo 6. ROXANNE- Arizona Zervas 7. Lose You to Love Me- Selena Gomez 8. 10,000 Hours- Dan + Shay & Justin Bieber 9. Blinding Lights- The Weeknd 10. BOP- DaBaby December 21, 2019 1. Circles- Post Malone 2. Someone You Loved- Lewis Capaldi 3. Good as Hell- Lizzo 4. ROXANNE- Arizona Zervas 5. Memories- Maroon 5 6. Lucid Dreams- Juice WRLD 7. Dance Monkey- Tones & I 8. BOP- DaBaby 9. Bandit- Juice WRLD feat. Youngboy Never Broke Again 10. Lose You to Love Me- Selena Gomez December 28, 2019 1. Circles- Post Malone 2. ROXANNE- Arizona Zervas 3. Futsal Shuffle- Lil Uzi Vert 4. Memories- Maroon 5 5. Someone You Loved- Lewis Capaldi 6. Good as Hell- Lizzo 7. Dance Monkey- Tones & I 8. Lose You to Love Me- Selena Gomez 9. 10,000 Hours- Dan + Shay & Justin Bieber 10. Ballin'- Mustard feat. Roddy Ricch January 3rd, 2020 1. Circles- Post Malone 2. ROXANNE- Arizona Zervas 3. Someone You Loved- Lewis Capaldi 4. Memories- Maroon 5 5. Good as Hell- Lizzo 6. The Box- Roddy Ricch 7. Dance Monkey- Tones & I 8. 10,000 Hours- Dan + Shay & Justin Bieber 9. Lose You to Love Me- Selena Gomez 10. Ballin'- Mustard feat. Roddy Ricch I forgot "Lose You to Love Me" lost a lot of weeks in the top 10 because of Christmas music. The fact it still managed 10 weeks in the top 10 is impressive. |
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Post by korbel16 on Dec 6, 2020 18:59:16 GMT -5
How every top 10 would look like without Christmas music (2019-2020) December 14, 2019 1. Heartless- The Weeknd 2. Circles- Post Malone 3. Someone You Loved- Lewis Capaldi 4. Memories- Maroon 5 5. Good as Hell- Lizzo 6. ROXANNE- Arizona Zervas 7. Lose You to Love Me- Selena Gomez 8. 10,000 Hours- Dan + Shay & Justin Bieber 9. Blinding Lights- The Weeknd 10. BOP- DaBaby December 21, 2019 1. Circles- Post Malone 2. Someone You Loved- Lewis Capaldi 3. Good as Hell- Lizzo 4. ROXANNE- Arizona Zervas 5. Memories- Maroon 5 6. Lucid Dreams- Juice WRLD 7. Dance Monkey- Tones & I 8. BOP- DaBaby 9. Bandit- Juice WRLD feat. Youngboy Never Broke Again 10. Lose You to Love Me- Selena Gomez December 28, 2019 1. Circles- Post Malone 2. ROXANNE- Arizona Zervas 3. Futsal Shuffle- Lil Uzi Vert 4. Memories- Maroon 5 5. Someone You Loved- Lewis Capaldi 6. Good as Hell- Lizzo 7. Dance Monkey- Tones & I 8. Lose You to Love Me- Selena Gomez 9. 10,000 Hours- Dan + Shay & Justin Bieber 10. Ballin'- Mustard feat. Roddy Ricch January 3rd, 2020 1. Circles- Post Malone 2. ROXANNE- Arizona Zervas 3. Someone You Loved- Lewis Capaldi 4. Memories- Maroon 5 5. Good as Hell- Lizzo 6. The Box- Roddy Ricch 7. Dance Monkey- Tones & I 8. 10,000 Hours- Dan + Shay & Justin Bieber 9. Lose You to Love Me- Selena Gomez 10. Ballin'- Mustard feat. Roddy Ricch poor Roxanne, bop, and ballin |
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Post by Dylan :) on Dec 6, 2020 20:57:51 GMT -5
For anyone interested :)
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Post by plankton5165 on Dec 6, 2020 22:28:28 GMT -5
Not-so fun fact: "Blinding Lights" is the first Year-End #1 since Ke$ha's "Tik Tok" to not be nominated for any Grammys. Everything between those was nominated for either Record or Song of the Year, except "Happy" and "Shape Of You", which only got (and won) Best Pop Solo. It's also the first Year-End #1 since Ke$ha's "Tik Tok" in a year ending in 0. |
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Post by anthony11554 on Dec 6, 2020 22:35:18 GMT -5
Not-so fun fact: "Blinding Lights" is the first Year-End #1 since Ke$ha's "Tik Tok" to not be nominated for any Grammys. Everything between those was nominated for either Record or Song of the Year, except "Happy" and "Shape Of You", which only got (and won) Best Pop Solo. It's also the first Year-End #1 since Ke$ha's "Tik Tok" in a year ending in 0. isn't that just the start of every decade |
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Post by jarhys on Dec 6, 2020 22:53:23 GMT -5
When was the last time that a number one song didnโt make it in the year end chart? We have a couple of songs this year.
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Post by spoons on Dec 6, 2020 22:55:12 GMT -5
I know its a complete long shot, but letโs just say a song by The Weeknd will be #1 of YE 2020 Couple days late, but now itโs official :) dedication!! For 2021 Ariana will be #1 |
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Post by Groovy on Dec 6, 2020 23:14:04 GMT -5
When was the last time that a number one song didnโt make it in the year end chart? We have a couple of songs this year. Prior to 2020, it was 2004 with Fantasia's I Believe. |
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Post by atg on Dec 7, 2020 1:52:19 GMT -5
Couple days late, but now itโs official :) dedication!! For 2021 Ariana will be #1 Maybe it could be her or Drake, Post, Adele or Rihanna. Or neither and a complete nobody would come in and steal the show |
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Post by ๐ฒ๐ฝ'๐ผ.๐ฐ๐ฟ on Dec 7, 2020 1:56:53 GMT -5
dedication!! For 2021 Ariana will be #1 Maybe it could be her or Drake, Post, Adele or Rihanna. Or neither and a complete nobody would come in and steal the show I would definitely love to see Post get a YE #1 in the future, he totally deserves it |
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Post by lazer on Dec 7, 2020 2:00:51 GMT -5
I've been thinking about this:
Will Post Malone change his direction in the next album? Circles was a pop-rock hit and it had huge longevity in the charts. Will that convince him to minimize hip-hop influences in his music and make a pop rock album? His next music will determine where his direction is heading as an artist, it will either be his magnum opus or a failed experiment.
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