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Post by tanooki on Dec 8, 2019 15:01:38 GMT -5
lol imagine if AIWFCIY is actually #1 this week
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Post by weirdo on Dec 8, 2019 15:08:50 GMT -5
There goes Heartless' chances for #1 I guess. Also already 2 Christmas songs in the top 10 seriously?? Jeez Imagine if Heartless omly debuted at #3?.he reslly shoyld hace pushed Blindung Lights more i think that has more potrntial |
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Post by moonlite on Dec 8, 2019 15:18:21 GMT -5
I think #1 is still absolutely possible for Heartless. I dont think simm accounted for the merch bundles that The Weeknd promoted all week
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Post by candypaint on Dec 8, 2019 15:21:37 GMT -5
I’m still holding out on the signed autographed CD’s and other physical sales that are more difficult to track before I write off Heartless’ chances completely. The points are super close. Tomorrow should be a interesting. |
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Post by dovahduck on Dec 8, 2019 15:46:07 GMT -5
I’m still holding out on the signed autographed CD’s and other physical sales that are more difficult to track before I write off Heartless’ chances completely. The points are super close. Tomorrow should be a interesting. I remember that one of his links crashed to the servers getting overloaded so it's definitely possible that he sold enough. |
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Post by dovahduck on Dec 8, 2019 15:47:01 GMT -5
There goes Heartless' chances for #1 I guess. Also already 2 Christmas songs in the top 10 seriously?? Jeez Imagine if Heartless omly debuted at #3?.he reslly shoyld hace pushed Blindung Lights more i think that has more potrntial Lmao it'd be a "Call Out My Name 2.0". Even though that song wasn't released as a single right away. |
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Post by lurker2 on Dec 8, 2019 15:48:45 GMT -5
If only he’d released on a Friday smh
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Post by dovahduck on Dec 8, 2019 16:08:11 GMT -5
If only he’d released on a Friday smh Would've been guaranteed 😤😤😤 |
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Post by chartfreak on Dec 8, 2019 16:10:33 GMT -5
So does this guarantee Mariah at least two weeks at #1? And can she get to the top as soon as next week (12/21)? I think her numbers were strong last week because it included Black Friday. Obviously she will be consistent until Xmas, but can she increase dramatically for the next 3 weeks? |
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Post by tanooki on Dec 8, 2019 16:12:21 GMT -5
So does this guarantee Mariah at least two weeks at #1? And can she get to the top as soon as next week (12/21)? I think her numbers were strong last week because it included Black Friday. Obviously she will be consistent until Xmas, but can she increase dramatically for the next 3 weeks? definitely |
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Post by rockgolf on Dec 8, 2019 16:30:05 GMT -5
Two things could affect Mariah getting to or keeping #1.
- The new Taylor Swift Christmas song, although that seems unlikely based on not showing on the Spotify charts.
- If posthumous sales of Juice WRLD tracks center on a specific track.
I'd like to see Lucid Dreams come back and reach #1. It's already in the top 50 on iTunes. Apparently, Sting gets an obscene 85% of the writing royalties from that song because it interpolates a couple of bars from his song An Englishman In New York. And then I'd like to see Sting donate those royalties to an opioid-abuse charity or whatever will have been found to have killed Juice.
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Post by jenglisbe on Dec 8, 2019 16:35:25 GMT -5
Two things could affect Mariah getting to or keeping #1. - The new Taylor Swift Christmas song, although that seems unlikely based on not showing on the Spotify charts.
- If posthumous sales of Juice WRLD tracks center on a specific track.
I'd like to see Lucid Dreams come back and reach #1. It's already in the top 50 on iTunes. Apparently, Sting gets an obscene 85% of the writing royalties from that song because it interpolates a couple of bars from his song An Englishman In New York. And then I'd like to see Sting donate those royalties to an opioid-abuse charity or whatever will have been found to have killed Juice.
Swift isn't any threat, and it's not just due to Spotify. |
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Post by Me. I Am l!nk!nfan815... on Dec 8, 2019 16:45:42 GMT -5
So does this guarantee Mariah at least two weeks at #1? And can she get to the top as soon as next week (12/21)? I think her numbers were strong last week because it included Black Friday. Obviously she will be consistent until Xmas, but can she increase dramatically for the next 3 weeks? It’s already outpacing last week’s Spotify #’s. |
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Post by cking33 on Dec 8, 2019 16:55:52 GMT -5
Two things could affect Mariah getting to or keeping #1. - The new Taylor Swift Christmas song, although that seems unlikely based on not showing on the Spotify charts.
- If posthumous sales of Juice WRLD tracks center on a specific track.
I'd like to see Lucid Dreams come back and reach #1. It's already in the top 50 on iTunes. Apparently, Sting gets an obscene 85% of the writing royalties from that song because it interpolates a couple of bars from his song An Englishman In New York. And then I'd like to see Sting donate those royalties to an opioid-abuse charity or whatever will have been found to have killed Juice.
Don't think T-Swift will be a big threat. If we take a look at what happened with "Sad" when XXX passed -- he jumped from 52 to 1. Then he fell to No. 2 the following week, then No. 10 after that. So if Lucid Dreams or another Juice Wrld track does become a rallying point for fans, perhaps that's a comparable chart run. It'd be nice if there was a re-emergence of him in the top level of the charts. I thought he was really talented and had a lot of great music in front of him. |
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Post by cking33 on Dec 8, 2019 17:03:48 GMT -5
Gonna throw this out there ... Does anyone think there's a chance "Rocking Around the Christmas Tree" can actually outpace AIWFCIY at some point? It's a closer gap than I thought there might be between those songs.
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Post by 👑 Eloquent ™ on Dec 8, 2019 17:10:27 GMT -5
Idk why so many Mariah fans saw Taylor's one-off Christmas song as a threat to a song that has been around for 25 years and is now one of the holiday staples to begin with (maybe over-sensitivity with it going #1 this year Idk). Christmas music is rarely if ever an out-of-the-gate, instant huge hit, regardless of the artist, and few of them even hit big to begin with (I mean even Mariah herself couldn't craft another after "AIWFCIY").
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Post by jenglisbe on Dec 8, 2019 17:16:37 GMT -5
Gonna throw this out there ... Does anyone think there's a chance "Rocking Around the Christmas Tree" can actually outpace AIWFCIY at some point? It's a closer gap than I thought there might be between those songs. Of course anything is possible, but "AIWFCIY" is ahead in sales and streaming every year, and it's usually ahead in airplay. I am not sure the gap is as close as you are contending? There are certainly events that could happen to propel Brenda's song ahead, though. Idk why so many Mariah fans saw Taylor's one-off Christmas song as a threat to a song that has been around for 25 years and is now one of the holiday staples to begin with (maybe over-sensitivity with it going #1 this year Idk). Christmas music is rarely if ever an out-of-the-gate, instant huge hit, regardless of the artist, and few of them even hit big to begin with (I mean even Mariah herself couldn't craft another after "AIWFCIY"). Standom rarely involves reactions based purely in logic. |
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Post by nathanalbright on Dec 8, 2019 17:24:24 GMT -5
Standom rarely involves reactions based purely in logic. Rarely have truer words been spoken. |
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Post by tanooki on Dec 8, 2019 17:30:31 GMT -5
Gonna throw this out there ... Does anyone think there's a chance "Rocking Around the Christmas Tree" can actually outpace AIWFCIY at some point? It's a closer gap than I thought there might be between those songs. Nah, AIWFCIY is a cultural behemoth, RATCT is just kinda... there trailing in 2nd place |
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Post by Normi on Dec 8, 2019 18:06:37 GMT -5
I'd love for Ariana to promote Santa Tell Me and have it block Mariah (or they both hit the top lol)
Maybe a new video or better a new version either maybe a Classic edition or (yall be like *yawn*) a remix
Imagine if she releases Santa Tell Me (ft. Mariah Carey) next Friday
The internet would explode! And Mariah could score her 19th and 20th #1 hits back to back
Just a stupid thought
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Post by garrettlen on Dec 8, 2019 18:32:26 GMT -5
His first Number One was in January 1970 and the last was 1995. So if ALWFCIY is #1 dec-jan, then she would be the first artist to have #1's in four decades 90s to 20s Oh I thought "I Want You Back" was in 1969, my bad. "I Want You Back" entered the Hot 100 in late 1969 but didn't peak at #1 until January 31st, 1970. |
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Post by rockgolf on Dec 8, 2019 18:40:11 GMT -5
BTW, in the all-time thread, I've posted an updated Top 1000 of all-time on the Hot 100.
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Post by gabe on Dec 8, 2019 18:41:14 GMT -5
BTW, in the all-time thread, I've posted an updated Top 1000 of all-time on the Hot 100. cool |
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Post by garrettlen on Dec 8, 2019 18:42:16 GMT -5
It's not just a "these days" problem. Tactics have been used to manipulate the charts since the 50s. Like payola, or did you think that was just a modern practice? Look up the payola scandals of the 50's to see that the more things change, the more they stay the same. |
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Post by rockgolf on Dec 8, 2019 18:42:44 GMT -5
I'd love for Ariana to promote Santa Tell Me and have it block Mariah (or they both hit the top lol) Maybe a new video or better a new version either maybe a Classic edition or (yall be like *yawn*) a remix Imagine if she releases Santa Tell Me (ft. Mariah Carey) next Friday The internet would explode! And Mariah could score her 19th and 20th #1 hits back to back Just a stupid thought Ariana could release a remix featuring Juice WRLD and Big Bird... ...and it would still be nowhere close to AIWFCIY on the charts. |
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Post by dremolus - solarpunk on Dec 8, 2019 18:43:19 GMT -5
With these tragic recent developments it seems like the decade may end with Juice WRLD as the last #1. That would be an immense tragedy. The 2010's have already suffered enough. Dude, time and place. A man just died who was by all accounts a good person, maybe save the opinions on his art for a few more weeks? |
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Post by FindingC7osure on Dec 8, 2019 18:47:59 GMT -5
12/14/19 Predictions:
| Song | Points | | 1. | Circles (=) | 27,800 | | 2. | Heartless (+30) | 26,900 | | 3. | All I Want for Christmas is You (+15) | 25,100 | | 4. | ROXANNE (+1) | 24,000 | | 5. | Someone You Loved (-3) | 24,000 | | 6. | Memories (-2) | 23,700 | | 7. | Good as Hell (-4) | 22,600 | | 8. | Lose You to Love Me (-2) | 20,700 | | 9. | Blinding Lights (DEBUT) | 20,100 | | 10. | 10,000 Hours (-2) | 20,000 | | 11. | Rockin' Around the Christmas Tree (+18) | 19,200 | | 12. | Dance Monkey (-1) | 18,600 | | 13. | Señorita (-6) | 18,400 |
- Bop - 18,300
- No Guidance - 17,700
- Panini - 16,400
- Truth Hurts - 16,400
... Edit: I am shocked and heartbroken right now. Rest in peace, Juice Wrld. :'(
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Post by Lukas on Dec 8, 2019 18:53:21 GMT -5
I will be back on doing weekly predictions now. Should have my final predictions posted later today.
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Post by garrettlen on Dec 8, 2019 19:11:42 GMT -5
Gonna throw this out there ... Does anyone think there's a chance "Rocking Around the Christmas Tree" can actually outpace AIWFCIY at some point? It's a closer gap than I thought there might be between those songs. Nah, AIWFCIY is a cultural behemoth, RATCT is just kinda... there trailing in 2nd place Totally disagree, but then I grew up before Mariah or AIWFCIY were even a thing on the charts so I remember Brenda Lee's song from way, way back. Maybe it's different for people who literally can't remember a time when AIWFCIY wasn't already around. |
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Post by 👑 Eloquent ™ on Dec 8, 2019 20:00:09 GMT -5
Gonna throw this out there ... Does anyone think there's a chance "Rocking Around the Christmas Tree" can actually outpace AIWFCIY at some point? It's a closer gap than I thought there might be between those songs. Nah, AIWFCIY is a cultural behemoth, RATCT is just kinda... there trailing in 2nd place Imagine. Calling "All I Want For Christmas Is You" a "cultural behemoth" while essentially downplaying the significance of a song that has been out TWICE as long (65 years) for being a mere 6 positions beneath it, with that gap surely to close. "RATCT" isn't "just kinda there", it has enough cultural significance to experience annual seasonal success along with "AIWFCIY" and has the potential to repeak nearly 65 years after its release. It is a staple and quite the feat. |
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