Billboard Hot 100: 12/14/2019

[Kris]

Dec 9, 2019 14:00:44 GMT -5 kierz7 said:

I have two younger sisters, aged 18 and 15 respectively.

Neither of them know who Mariah Carey truly is outside of “AIWFCIY”.

Of course they’ve researched her and become relatively familiar with her music (mostly because of me) but Carey is not someone of whom they’ll actively listen to and are a fan of.

To them, she’s merely a legacy act, with the astounding voice, and the “massive Xmas jingle”.

As we move further into the 2020’s, to those below a certain age, the aforementioned is all Mariah Carey will be and there’s nothing wrong with that because at least it means that she has a song that will remain omnipresent for future generations to come, and for that they’ll have to discover who she is. 🤷🏿‍♀️

I'm 28 and I could probably name less Mariah Carey songs than fingers on my hands. If I didn't follow charts I probably couldn't name 3. I don't know a lot of people (nobody in my life personally) that could outside this forum tbh. 

It also kind of blows my mind with how broken streaming is that we could potentially have an entire top 10 of only old Christmas music. 

[forg]

This talk of Mariah Carey's relevance to the youth is just making me feel so old lol but yeah we are entering a new decade, sometimes you don't realize how time passes until stuff like this is being talked about. The Britney/BSB domination is still fresh in my mind and that's 20 years ago, heck the Hannah Montana/HSM era is over 10 years old and I already see the 20 somethings being nostalgic about them on social media and saying stuff like "this is my childhood when music was simple good unlike today / I pity the new generation" which definitely what my generation and other older generation said to whatever current music is during early adulthood lol.

Connecting this on the current, I still remember when people here on this board got frustrated The Weeknd blocked Hotline Bling from #1, as Drake has yet to hit his solo #1 at that time Little did we know, Drake will have a streak where he will have multiple weeks at #1 lol

[Au$tin]

How does an entire top 10 of Christmas music mean streaming is broken? If that's what is popular, then that is what is popular. It's not like iTunes wasn't bombarded with Christmas music before streaming took over and it's not like radio completely ignores Christmas music either. The new Jonas Brothers Christmas song is literally #1 on AC right now.

[13]

I haven't heard a single song by Mariah Carey outside AIWFCIY. I know from charts stuff that she has a lot of hit songs, I just don't know them. I'd say she's well on her way to being the Christmas lady.

Correction: I probably have heard these songs, I just couldn't sing them or match the melody with the title or anything like that.

[kierz7]

Dec 9, 2019 17:45:51 GMT -5 garrettlen said:

Dec 9, 2019 14:17:50 GMT -5 rockgolf said:

I used to ask if anyone could name a Bing Crosby song other than White Christmas.

Nowadays I have to ask if anyone has heard of Bing Crosby at all.

Someday all that may remain of The Beatles is Happy Xmas (War Is Over) and Wonderful Christmastime.

Neither of which is a Beatles song and in the latter case...THANK GOD.

But I don't see The Beatles disappearing quite so quickly; they had a major influence on a lot of things that are still around today which are too numerous to mention, and their musical legacy continues to live on and on.  Every new generation seems to discover The Beatles.

I think the only Beatles songs of which are truly ubiquitous are “Let It Be” and “Yesterday”.

(“Come Together” and “Live and Let Die” are probably in contention too).

Granted, the former songs are the ONLY ones from their discography I truly ever hear anywhere (personally) and seem to be their most popular by way of recurrent streams on both Spotify and YouTube.

All in all, I think the Beatles are one of the very few, rare acts whose albums as a whole have probably outlasted their singles in terms of popularity and commercial appeal.

How many albums of theirs have they re-packaged and re-released since the 1990’s, most of which are still selling in large to moderate amounts today and (old age) critics still salivate over.

[Kris]

Dec 9, 2019 19:37:22 GMT -5 Au$tin said:

How does an entire top 10 of Christmas music mean streaming is broken? If that's what is popular, then that is what is popular. It's not like iTunes wasn't bombarded with Christmas music before streaming took over and it's not like radio completely ignores Christmas music either. The new Jonas Brothers Christmas song is literally #1 on AC right now.

I mainly mean it can more easily influence the charts than others. People weren't buying more than 1 copy of AIWFCIY on iTunes, but you can stream it an infinite number of times. Same with radio, one station isn't playing the same song on repeat. 

[nathanalbright]

Dec 9, 2019 19:50:16 GMT -5 Kris said:

Dec 9, 2019 19:37:22 GMT -5 Au$tin said:

How does an entire top 10 of Christmas music mean streaming is broken? If that's what is popular, then that is what is popular. It's not like iTunes wasn't bombarded with Christmas music before streaming took over and it's not like radio completely ignores Christmas music either. The new Jonas Brothers Christmas song is literally #1 on AC right now.

I mainly mean it can more easily influence the charts than others. People weren't buying more than 1 copy of AIWFCIY on iTunes, but you can stream it an infinite number of times. Same with radio, one station isn't playing the same song on repeat. 

You obviously don't listen much to AC, do you?

[Abbaschand]

Dec 9, 2019 19:22:17 GMT -5 sirskimask said:

Dec 9, 2019 18:41:30 GMT -5 lostinhavana said:

a little of topic but looks like Dance Monkey blocked Abel from #1 in Canada with Blinding Lights at 2 & Heartless at 3 which surprised me

Dance Monkey needs to stop 

It seems she did stopping at US.

[Kris]

Dec 9, 2019 20:28:46 GMT -5 nathanalbright said:

Dec 9, 2019 19:50:16 GMT -5 Kris said:

I mainly mean it can more easily influence the charts than others. People weren't buying more than 1 copy of AIWFCIY on iTunes, but you can stream it an infinite number of times. Same with radio, one station isn't playing the same song on repeat. 

You obviously don't listen much to AC, do you?

I try to stray from AC stations after November lol, it gets old very fast. I know they play the same songs a lot, but like I said, not continuously repeating a single one 

[nathanalbright]

Dec 9, 2019 20:34:53 GMT -5 Kris said:

Dec 9, 2019 20:28:46 GMT -5 nathanalbright said:

You obviously don't listen much to AC, do you?

I try to stray from AC stations after November lol, it gets old very fast. I know they play the same songs a lot, but like I said, not continuously repeating a single one 

That's true.  There was once a radio station when I was in Tampa as a teenager (it was a while ago) that played the same song twice in a row while I was listening to it one winter day.  I've heard of heavy rotation, but that was too much for me.

[mrricx]

Dec 9, 2019 19:43:27 GMT -5 13 said:

I haven't heard a single song by Mariah Carey outside AIWFCIY. I know from charts stuff that she has a lot of hit songs, I just don't know them. I'd say she's well on her way to being the Christmas lady.

Correction: I probably have heard these songs, I just couldn't sing them or match the melody with the title or anything like that.

Well, either that or there's something really wrong with you...

[dovahduck]

Dec 9, 2019 19:22:17 GMT -5 sirskimask said:

Dec 9, 2019 18:41:30 GMT -5 lostinhavana said:

a little of topic but looks like Dance Monkey blocked Abel from #1 in Canada with Blinding Lights at 2 & Heartless at 3 which surprised me

Dance Monkey needs to stop 

At least he got "Call Out My Name" as a number one there last year lol (four in total as well). I'm surprised though that he didn't go number one there with either of those, especially considering that "Heartless" debuted at 12 last week.

[lurker2]

Dec 9, 2019 20:53:06 GMT -5 dovahduck said:

Dec 9, 2019 19:22:17 GMT -5 sirskimask said:

Dance Monkey needs to stop 

At least he got "Call Out My Name" as a number one there last year lol (four in total as well). I'm surprised though that he didn't go number one there with either of those, especially considering that "Heartless" debuted at 12 last week.

Especially considering Canadian AirPlay laws.

Dance Monkey is a beast lol.

[nathanalbright]

CanCon can only take you so far.

[tanooki]

Jonas Brothers' 'Like It's Christmas' Dashes to No. 1 on Adult Contemporary Chart
12/9/2019 by Gary Trust
www.billboard.com/articles/business/chart-beat/8545735/jonas-brothers-like-its-christmas-tops-adult-contemporary-chart

The song is the first holiday hit to lead the list this season.
Jonas Brothers' "Like It's Christmas" reaches the top of Billboard's Adult Contemporary radio airplay chart (dated Dec. 14), jingling from No. 7 to No. 1.

The original song, newly released this holiday season on Republic Records, is the sibling trio's second AC No. 1, after "Sucker," which ruled for 11 weeks beginning in September. ("Sucker" became the act's first leader on the all-genre, multi-metric Billboard Hot 100 in March.)

"Like It's Christmas" is additionally the 24th holiday No. 1 on the AC chart since 2000, around the time that a majority of stations in the format began playing seasonal songs 24/7 between Thanksgiving and Christmas each year.

Here's an updated recap of all the holiday songs that have hung atop AC's highest bough since 2000:

Title, Artist, Chart Date Reached No. 1, Weeks at No. 1
"Like It's Christmas," Jonas Brothers, Dec. 14, 2019, one (to date)
"Cozy Little Christmas," Katy Perry, Dec. 29, 2018, one
"Have Yourself a Merry Little Christmas," John Legend feat. Esperanza Spalding, Dec. 8, 2018, three
"Santa's Coming for Us," Sia, Dec. 23, 2017, three
"Baby, It's Cold Outside," Brett Eldredge feat. Meghan Trainor, Jan. 7, 2017, one
"Have Yourself a Merry Little Christmas," Josh Groban, Dec. 24, 2016, one
"This Christmas," Train, Dec. 17, 2016, two
"This Christmas," Seal, Jan. 2, 2016, one
"Baby It's Cold Outside," Idina Menzel duet with Michael Buble, Dec. 20, 2014, three
"Underneath the Tree," Kelly Clarkson, Dec. 2, 2013, four
"Let It Snow, Let It Snow, Let It Snow," Rod Stewart, Dec. 8, 2012, five
"All I Want for Christmas Is You," Michael Buble, Dec. 10, 2011, five
"Oh Santa!," Mariah Carey, Dec. 18, 2010, four
"A Baby Changes Everything," Faith Hill, Dec. 20, 2008, three
"I'll Be Home for Christmas," Josh Groban, Dec. 22, 2007, three
"Frosty the Snowman," Kimberley Locke, Dec. 15, 2007, one
"It Came Upon a Midnight Clear," Daryl Hall and John Oates, Dec. 30, 2006, two
"Jingle Bells," Kimberley Locke, Dec. 23, 2006, one
"Up on the Housetop," Kimberley Locke, Dec. 17, 2005, four
"Believe," Josh Groban, Dec. 11, 2004, five
"Sending You a Little Christmas," Jim Brickman with Kristy Starling, Jan. 3, 2004, one
"O Holy Night," Josh Groban, Dec. 28, 2002, two
"Simple Things," Jim Brickman feat. Rebecca Lynn Howard, Jan. 5, 2002, one
"The Christmas Shoes," NewSong, Jan. 6, 2001, one

All charts will update on Billboard.com tomorrow (Dec. 10).

[Choco]

I hope Blinding Lights can eventually reach top 10. It's much better than Heartless.

[Baby Yoda Hot100Fan]

^It would make up for False Alarm not becoming a hit.

[dremolus - solarpunk]

Dec 9, 2019 14:24:28 GMT -5 whales10268 said:

Is Michael Jackson just the Thriller guy since that’s the only song that charts still lol?

These artists will still be known, but my guess is the majority of kids now aren’t even familiar with 2000’s music, let alone 20th century acts.

BS that Michael Jackson is only known as the Thriller guy, even to kids. Most people my age and lower know what Billie Jean is.

[Future Captain]

Holy shit Mariah is already #3? I swear there will come a time where it went #1 the week after Halloween

[whales10268]

Dec 9, 2019 19:43:27 GMT -5 13 said:

I haven't heard a single song by Mariah Carey outside AIWFCIY. I know from charts stuff that she has a lot of hit songs, I just don't know them. I'd say she's well on her way to being the Christmas lady.

Correction: I probably have heard these songs, I just couldn't sing them or match the melody with the title or anything like that.

On recurrent radio, I’ve heard Dreamlover, Fantasy, and We Belong Together. Always Be My Baby is the song by her I hear most outside of the Christmas song though.

[pnobelysk]

Dec 9, 2019 19:35:00 GMT -5 Kris said:

Dec 9, 2019 14:00:44 GMT -5 kierz7 said:

I have two younger sisters, aged 18 and 15 respectively.

Neither of them know who Mariah Carey truly is outside of “AIWFCIY”.

Of course they’ve researched her and become relatively familiar with her music (mostly because of me) but Carey is not someone of whom they’ll actively listen to and are a fan of.

To them, she’s merely a legacy act, with the astounding voice, and the “massive Xmas jingle”.

As we move further into the 2020’s, to those below a certain age, the aforementioned is all Mariah Carey will be and there’s nothing wrong with that because at least it means that she has a song that will remain omnipresent for future generations to come, and for that they’ll have to discover who she is. 🤷🏿‍♀️

I'm 28 and I could probably name less Mariah Carey songs than fingers on my hands. If I didn't follow charts I probably couldn't name 3. I don't know a lot of people (nobody in my life personally) that could outside this forum tbh. 

It also kind of blows my mind with how broken streaming is that we could potentially have an entire top 10 of only old Christmas music. 

24 here. From what I gather from people my age not plugged into the music industry, everyone is aware of who she is and knows she was a huge singer from the 90s.

When it comes to knowing her material pretty much everyone knows we belong together (and appreciates it)

A decent amount of people know shake it off, touch my body, & obsessed as well. No one seems to really remember #beautiful

I imagine if you’re closer to 20 you probably only recognize obsessed from her unless you’re ingrained in music


* of course everyone knows AIWFCIY

[weirdo]

Dec 9, 2019 16:42:57 GMT -5 @lil14 said:

1. Heartless
2. Circles
3. All I Want For Christmas Is You
4. Someone You Loved
5. Memories
6. Good As Hell
7. Roxanne
8. Rockin' Around The Christmas Tree
9. Lose You To Love Me
10. 10,000 Hours
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11. Blinding Lights
12. BOP
14. No Guidance
15. Senorita
16. Ballin
17. Panini
18. A Holly Jolly Christmas
21. bad guy
22. Truth Hurts
25. everything i wanted
27. Last Christmas
31. Old Town Road
32. Lover
34. Only Human
36. Beautiful People
41. Falling
42. Don’t Start Now
45. Graveyard
46. Into the Unknown
50. I Don't Care
51. Baby
56. Juicy
61. VIBEZ
64. Death
68. No Idea (Don Toliver)
70. Show Yourself
72. Like It's Christmas
76. Enemies
78. Baby Sitter
79. all the good girls go to hell
83. Tip Toe (Roddy Ricch & A Boogie)
85. Nice To Meet Ya
87. Slow Dancing In The Dark
94. Candy
95. TUSA

Did Goodbyes go recurrent?

[tanooki]

1. Heartless
2. Circles
3. All I Want For Christmas Is You
4. Someone You Loved
5. Memories
6. Good As Hell
7. ROXANNE
8. Rockin' Around the Christmas Tree
9. Lose You to Love Me
10. 10,000 Hours

11. Blinding Lights
12. BOP
13. Dance Monkey
14. No Guidance
15. Senorita
16. Ballin'
17. Panini
18. A Holly Jolly Christmas
19. Trampoline
20. HIGHEST IN THE ROOM

21. Bad Guy
22. Truth Hurts
23. Jingle Bell Rock
24. It's The Most Wonderful Time Of The Year
25. everything i wanted
26. Hot
27. Last Christmas
28. Let It Snow, Let It Snow, Let It Snow
29. Woah
30. One Man Band

31. Old Town Road
32. Lover
33. The Christmas Song (Merry Christmas To You)
34. Only Human
35. On Chill
36. Beautiful People
37. Ran$om
38. Even Though I'm Leaving
39. Feliz Navidad
40. Bandit

41. Falling
42. Don't Start Now
43. Sleigh Ride
44. Rudolph The Red-Nosed Reindeer
45. Graveyard
46. Into The Unknown
47. Happy Holiday / The Holiday Season
48. Here Comes Santa Claus (Right Down Santa Claus Lane)
49. Talk
50. I Don't Care

51. Baby
52. Playing Games
53. Hot Girl Bummer
54. How Do You Sleep?
55. Heat
56. Juicy
57. The Bones
58. Time
59. Heart On Ice
60. Take What You Want

61. VIBEZ
62. Remember You Young
63. Vete
64. Death
65. Leave Em Alone
66. We Were
67. What If I Never Get Over You
68. No Idea
69. Ridin' Roads
70. Show Yourself

71. Heartache Medication
72. Like It's Christmas
73. Camelot
74. 223's
75. Prayed For You
76. Enemies
77. Kinfolks
78. Baby Sitter
79. All The Good Girls Go To Hell
80. 6 Kiss

81. We Back
82. Who Needs Love
83. Tip Toe
84. Yellow Hearts
85. Nice To Meet Ya
86. Suicidal
87. Slow Dancing In The Dark
88. Homesick
89. Hate Me (Ellie)
90. Easy

91. Follow God
92. Cuban Links
93. F.N
94. Candy
95. Tusa
96. Make No Sense
97. Jerry Sprunger
98. RITMO (Bad Boys For Life)
99. Into The Unknown (Panic!)
100. La Cancion

[sirskimask]

So Talk is toast then

[tanooki]

Dec 10, 2019 0:38:51 GMT -5 sirskimask said:

So Talk is toast then

Yeah, it's definitely going bye-bye next week. Between christmas and Juice, it's over for Talk

[weirdo]

Dec 10, 2019 0:40:09 GMT -5 tanooki said:

Dec 10, 2019 0:38:51 GMT -5 sirskimask said:

So Talk is toast then

Yeah, it's definitely going bye-bye next week. Between christmas and Juice, it's over for Talk

Same with I Don't Care. How Do You Sleep? Will go recurrent when ir hits 20 weeks. Goodbyes said goodbye (pun intended) it looks like. Interested to see which songs do end up surviving Christmas. I definitely think Old Town Road will survive and make 52 weeks. I actually don't think Teuth Hurts will make 52 weeks though. It may only have 5-10 weeks peft at all

[weirdo]

Honestly i was really hoping Talk would survive and make 52 weeks, but at least Old Town Road will probably make it as well as maybe Senorita and bad guy. Just so amazed that No Guidance is STILL in the top 15 even with the Christmas stuff

[Enigma.]

What is this talk about The Beatles being forgotten lol? If anything, they are the least likely act to be forgotten! They are like synonym to pop music! Don't they have two albums in top 100 all the time too?

[KeepDeanWeird]

I’ve never understood the evergreen appeal and high spin counts of #18 and #39. They are so kitschy and sonically weak compared to most of the other ‘core’ Xmas classics. I’d love to see a burn/net negative on the Top 50 Xmas gold.

I wonder how much the continued expansion of Alexa/Echo has contributed to streaming this season. It turned out to be a major factor that seemed to surprise everyone here that week last year when Xmas songs just bombed the chart.

[imbondz]

Underneath the Tree by Clarkson is my favorite “new” Christmas song. Hope it re-enters.