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Post by weirdo on Jan 6, 2020 12:31:18 GMT -5
I do wonder if The Box could pull a #1 thia week though. After all, Old Town Road was predicted anywhere from #1 to #5 when it hit #1 that week so it could happen. Most likely it will be Circles though
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Post by tanooki on Jan 6, 2020 12:31:37 GMT -5
The source is.........JANUARY FOOLS!. Nobody expects this three months before April!. But seriously, i do NOT have the actual list  |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2020 12:33:13 GMT -5
i hope the box is #1 today but i also don’t wanna wait until like 3:00 for the hot 100 reveal.
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Post by weirdo on Jan 6, 2020 12:33:23 GMT -5
And the award for worst prank of 2020 goes to.....The Box goes #1 by weirdo
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Post by jebsib on Jan 6, 2020 12:34:00 GMT -5
^ Not cool, dude. That’s one of the Cardinal Sins of Pulse on chart day.
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Post by weirdo on Jan 6, 2020 12:34:14 GMT -5
i hope the box is #1 today but i also don’t wanna wait until like 3:00 for the hot 100 reveal. Agreed, but it would also be nice to see something new hit #1 instead of Circles AGAIN. Circles would be on its 6th week i think at #1 without Christmas stuff. Its time for somethibg new |
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Post by tanooki on Jan 6, 2020 12:34:15 GMT -5
Y'all gotta be patient, Billboard has to talk about the comedy album chart first!
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Post by jenglisbe on Jan 6, 2020 12:34:38 GMT -5
I didn't know longevity is now measured by how many people know it at a college party. Does We Belong Together not have longevity either? Arguably, yes. More people remember the Hollaback Girls, Boulevards of Broken Dreams, and Mr. Brightsides than the We Belong Togethers and 1, 2 Steps- they had huge longevity at the time but the ones with outside cultural impact last longer. The same example can be applied to recent years, where a hell of a lot more people know and care about Uptown Funk than Earned It despite both being in the top 10 of 2015 “We Belong Together” has over 400 million views on YouTube (more than both “HG” and “BOBD”) and over 200 million streams on Spotify. Those are really good totals for a song from 2005, so let’s not act like it’s forgotten. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2020 12:35:08 GMT -5
I didn't know longevity is now measured by how many people know it at a college party. Does We Belong Together not have longevity either? Arguably, yes. More people remember the Hollaback Girls, Boulevards of Broken Dreams, and Mr. Brightsides than the We Belong Togethers and 1, 2 Steps- they had huge longevity at the time but the ones with outside cultural impact last longer. The same example can be applied to recent years, where a hell of a lot more people know and care about Uptown Funk than Earned It despite both being in the top 10 of 2015 lmao I literally haven't heard Mr. Brightside since the year it peaked and had to cheat with a Google search to remember the band's name. And as much as I loved Gwen, she had a left-of-center vibe that kept all of her hits from being universal crowd pleasers. I am even questioning myself on BOBD because I only ever hear of it, or Green Day at all, from rock fans. But I'm not going to go out of my way to say those songs aren't memorable. It's very easy to dismiss any song if one doesn't care for that genre and doesn't hang around people who do. You just clearly don't like much r&b music - which is fine - but you're naturally going to get pushback when you make it clear that you think almost an entire genre lacks 'longevity' simply because of your own personal taste. |
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Post by tuna on Jan 6, 2020 12:36:29 GMT -5
If anything unexpectedly hits #1 this week it'll probably be ROXANNE.
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Post by weirdo on Jan 6, 2020 12:37:52 GMT -5
Arguably, yes. More people remember the Hollaback Girls, Boulevards of Broken Dreams, and Mr. Brightsides than the We Belong Togethers and 1, 2 Steps- they had huge longevity at the time but the ones with outside cultural impact last longer. The same example can be applied to recent years, where a hell of a lot more people know and care about Uptown Funk than Earned It despite both being in the top 10 of 2015 lmao I literally haven't heard Mr. Brightside since the year it peaked and had to cheat with a Google search to remember the band's name. And as much as I loved Gwen, she had a left-of-center vibe that kept all of her hits from being universal crowd pleasers. I am even questioning myself on BOBD because I only ever hear of it, or Green Day at all, from rock fans. But I'm not going to go out of my way to say those songs aren't memorable. It's very easy to dismiss any song if one doesn't care for that genre and doesn't hang around people who do. You just clearly don't like much r&b music - which is fine - but you're naturally going to get pushback when you make it clear that you think almost an entire genre lacks 'longevity' simply because of your own personal taste. The only Gwen Stefani solo hits i ever hear nowdays are Hella Good and Hollaback Girl, but Hollaback Girl is iconic. Boulevard Of Broken Dreams i hear regularly. Mr Brightside though.....im gonna have to agree with you on that one |
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Post by weirdo on Jan 6, 2020 12:38:49 GMT -5
If anything unexpectedly hits #1 this week it'll probably be ROXANNE. It would actually be better to see that hit #1 then The Box this week tbh. The Box is gonna hit #1 next week almost certainly anyways, whereas this is probably ROXANNE's last chance at #1 |
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Post by Az Paynter on Jan 6, 2020 12:40:49 GMT -5
If you live in the UK 'Mr Brightside' is inescapable. It's still making the year-end chart there in 2019!
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Post by kierz7 on Jan 6, 2020 12:41:05 GMT -5
I didn't know longevity is now measured by how many people know it at a college party. Does We Belong Together not have longevity either? Arguably, yes. More people remember the Hollaback Girls, Boulevards of Broken Dreams, and Mr. Brightsides than the We Belong Togethers and 1, 2 Steps- they had huge longevity at the time but the ones with outside cultural impact last longer. The same example can be applied to recent years, where a hell of a lot more people know and care about Uptown Funk than Earned It despite both being in the top 10 of 2015 1) “Hollaback Girl” has had more cultural longevity and impact than “1,2 Step” and “We Belong Together”? LMFAO. Spotify and Apple Music says otherwise... 2) Why are you comparing “Uptown Funk”, one of the biggest songs of all time, to “Earned It”, a quick OST single that just so happened to peak in the top ten? MOREOVER... Why are we STILL using ‘College Parties’ as the foundation for which songs are remembered? • If “Closer” is played or requested more at parties than “We Found Love” or “In My Feelings”, does it mean that the latter songs aren’t remembered? • If “Mr Brightside” is played or requested more at parties than “Billie Jean” or “Purple Rain”, does it mean the latter songs aren’t remembered? |
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Post by tuna on Jan 6, 2020 12:41:07 GMT -5
If anything unexpectedly hits #1 this week it'll probably be ROXANNE. It would actually be better to see that hit #1 then The Box this week tbh. The Box is gonna hit #1 next week almost certainly anyways, whereas this is probably ROXANNE's last chance at #1 I mean it's going to hit #2 and it isn't going anywhere anytime soon, which is pretty good for a tiktok song. I wasn't on this board much when Ran$om was big but i'm sure a lot of people expected it to peak higher than #4. |
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Post by weirdo on Jan 6, 2020 12:42:47 GMT -5
If you live in the UK 'Mr Brightside' is inescapable. It's still making the year-end chart there in 2019! Yeah but it wasn't as big over here in the US. Only peaked at #10 i think |
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Post by tuna on Jan 6, 2020 12:47:05 GMT -5
• If “Closer” is played or requested more at parties than “We Found Love” or “In My Feelings”, does it mean that the latter songs aren’t remembered? • If “Mr Brightside” is played or requested more at parties than “Billie Jean” or “Purple Rain”, does it mean the latter songs aren’t remembered? I mean you can make a case that culture can help elevate songs that didn't peak that high above songs that did peak higher in terms of pure relevance and importance. Probably not to the scale of what you're saying here, though. For example, Midnight City by M83, which peaked at #72, probably has more cultural relevance than something that did pretty well at the time but faded, for example Come and Get It by Selena Gomez Also for some reason I just realized you meant the Chainsmokers Closer in that example |
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Post by Az Paynter on Jan 6, 2020 12:49:48 GMT -5
If you live in the UK 'Mr Brightside' is inescapable. It's still making the year-end chart there in 2019! Yeah but it wasn't as big over here in the US. Only peaked at #10 i think 'Only' #10 (which fyi is also its US peak) yet it's made 8 UK year-end charts and was the #12 song of the decade just gone. The argument is about longevity and cultural relevance, which in regard to the UK 'Mr Brightside' s**ts on most. :sip2: |
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Post by weirdo on Jan 6, 2020 12:51:32 GMT -5
Yeah but it wasn't as big over here in the US. Only peaked at #10 i think 'Only' #10 (which fyi is also its US peak) yet it's made 8 UK year-end charts and was the #12 song of the decade just gone. The argument is about longevity and cultural relevance, which in regard to the UK 'Mr Brightside' s**ts on most. :sip2: I didnt mean that it was forgotten in the Uk. What i meant was that in the US its much less remembered and also didnt have nearly as much chart success |
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Post by tuna on Jan 6, 2020 12:54:17 GMT -5
'Only' #10 (which fyi is also its US peak) yet it's made 8 UK year-end charts and was the #12 song of the decade just gone. The argument is about longevity and cultural relevance, which in regard to the UK 'Mr Brightside' s**ts on most.  I didnt mean that it was forgotten in the Uk. What i meant was that in the US its much less remembered and also didnt have nearly as much chart success Anyone that doesn't only listen to the radio only probably listens to Mr. Brightside willingly once in a while. It's the The Less I Know The Better of the 2000s. |
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Post by Az Paynter on Jan 6, 2020 12:54:29 GMT -5
Okay I've read an extra 'as' in your post (ie. 'wasn't as big as over here'). That's my bad.
How do you gauge how well it's remembered in the US then? The audience and the music consumer culture 14 years ago was an entirely different beast to today. How do you gauge that?
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Post by kierz7 on Jan 6, 2020 13:00:01 GMT -5
Exactly.
“Mr Britghtside’s” U.S chart peak was literally just driven by Mainstream Top 40, HAC and Active Rock Airplay, the latter two formats of which weren’t exactly significant in comparison to Urban and/or Rhythmic airplay.
Had it been released two or more years later, it may have peaked higher due to the heavy growth of digital sales by that time.
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Post by dovahduck on Jan 6, 2020 13:07:55 GMT -5
If "The Box" hits number one this or next week, will it be the first non-single (as of right now) number one?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2020 13:08:43 GMT -5
If "The Box" hits number one this or next week, will it be the first non-single (as of right now) number one? yes. nonstop was close tho |
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Jan 6, 2020 13:09:26 GMT -5
The source is.........JANUARY FOOLS!. Nobody expects this three months before April!. But seriously, i do NOT have the actual list Don’t be a dick |
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Post by lazer on Jan 6, 2020 13:10:47 GMT -5
So, it's a three way race for Circles, Roxanne, and The Box.
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Jan 6, 2020 13:11:14 GMT -5
If you live in the UK 'Mr Brightside' is inescapable. It's still making the year-end chart there in 2019! Imagine if Pulse was set in the UK and not the US. Year end stans be shook |
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Post by iHype. on Jan 6, 2020 13:12:04 GMT -5
Circles is back to #1.
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Post by weirdo on Jan 6, 2020 13:13:59 GMT -5
Although im not suprised and expected it, im also disappointed. Out of all the options we had (ROXANNE, The Box, Circles), Circles returning to #1 was the least interesting, but atleast this should probably be its last week at #1 |
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Post by tuna on Jan 6, 2020 13:14:57 GMT -5
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