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Post by Au$tin on May 1, 2020 1:20:38 GMT -5
Everything from Tell Me You Love Me alone is tremendously more than "marginally better" than this.
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Post by Az Paynter on May 1, 2020 5:29:45 GMT -5
POP: 13 14 DEMI LOVATO I Love Me 7800 7763 37 30.171
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Post by collin on May 1, 2020 21:23:07 GMT -5
Is she, though? Even her highest highs have been very marginally ‘better’ than this song when it’s all broken down. I mean quality is obviously subjective. But in my eyes, yeah, she can and has done significantly better many times on all six of her albums. Even the first two had examples of an artist capable of more than the Disney standard (“Don’t Forget”, “La La Land”, “The Middle”, “Here We Go Again”, “Quiet”, “Catch Me”, “Got Dynamite”, “Every Time You Lie” all being particular highlights). When she started working for hits on her third and fourth albums, the results were a little hit or miss, but there were certainly some gems. “Skyscraper” and “For the Love of a Daughter” were the first of multiple gut-wrenching, personal ballads. “Give Your Heart a Break” and “Heart Attack” were excellent pop hits that are some of the best examples of her unique strengths being applied to current trends. “Two Pieces” was a major highlight of this cycle, one of the best examples of the pop-rock niche she could follow, taking after P!nk and Kelly Clarkson. And while nothing substantial, “Really Don’t Care” and “Something That We’re Not” are well-structured bubblegum with personality. The Confident and Tell Me You Love Me albums were both strong products that showed her really coming into her own. “Cool for the Summer” remains a unique hit, possibly the most innovative song she’s ever released and a genuine creative risk. “Wildfire”, “Body Say”, and “Ruin the Friendship” are major career highlights, genuinely sexy and showing real potential for an R&B/Pop direction. “Confident”, “Sexy Dirty Love”, and “Games” are great examples of self-empowering lyrics in well-structured radio-friendly pop songs that play to her strengths. And even most of the songs that I haven’t mentioned are generally solid pop songs, even if they aren’t necessarily revolutionary. While I don’t think she’s ever totally nailed who she wants to be as an artist, she’s made a number of genuinely strong songs in a number of pop sub-genres, even if her single selections haven’t always been the best showcase. Aside from a few shamelessly generic trend-chasers on Unbroken and “Sorry Not Sorry”, easily her worst song in my eyes and a disappointing winner for her biggest hit, she hasn’t had many lows. So yeah, I think she can do a lot better. Stopped reading at Heart Attack
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Post by collin on May 1, 2020 21:23:28 GMT -5
Everything from Tell Me You Love Me alone is tremendously more than "marginally better" than this. Not really
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Post by nick64 on May 1, 2020 21:27:50 GMT -5
I mean quality is obviously subjective. But in my eyes, yeah, she can and has done significantly better many times on all six of her albums. Even the first two had examples of an artist capable of more than the Disney standard (“Don’t Forget”, “La La Land”, “The Middle”, “Here We Go Again”, “Quiet”, “Catch Me”, “Got Dynamite”, “Every Time You Lie” all being particular highlights). When she started working for hits on her third and fourth albums, the results were a little hit or miss, but there were certainly some gems. “Skyscraper” and “For the Love of a Daughter” were the first of multiple gut-wrenching, personal ballads. “Give Your Heart a Break” and “Heart Attack” were excellent pop hits that are some of the best examples of her unique strengths being applied to current trends. “Two Pieces” was a major highlight of this cycle, one of the best examples of the pop-rock niche she could follow, taking after P!nk and Kelly Clarkson. And while nothing substantial, “Really Don’t Care” and “Something That We’re Not” are well-structured bubblegum with personality. The Confident and Tell Me You Love Me albums were both strong products that showed her really coming into her own. “Cool for the Summer” remains a unique hit, possibly the most innovative song she’s ever released and a genuine creative risk. “Wildfire”, “Body Say”, and “Ruin the Friendship” are major career highlights, genuinely sexy and showing real potential for an R&B/Pop direction. “Confident”, “Sexy Dirty Love”, and “Games” are great examples of self-empowering lyrics in well-structured radio-friendly pop songs that play to her strengths. And even most of the songs that I haven’t mentioned are generally solid pop songs, even if they aren’t necessarily revolutionary. While I don’t think she’s ever totally nailed who she wants to be as an artist, she’s made a number of genuinely strong songs in a number of pop sub-genres, even if her single selections haven’t always been the best showcase. Aside from a few shamelessly generic trend-chasers on Unbroken and “Sorry Not Sorry”, easily her worst song in my eyes and a disappointing winner for her biggest hit, she hasn’t had many lows. So yeah, I think she can do a lot better. Stopped reading at Heart Attack cool
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Post by Au$tin on May 1, 2020 21:29:56 GMT -5
Everything from Tell Me You Love Me alone is tremendously more than "marginally better" than this. Not really It's fine that you disagree, but don't be a pompous ass about it.
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Post by Az Paynter on May 2, 2020 8:49:41 GMT -5
POP: 14 14 DEMI LOVATO I Love Me 7746 7767 -21 29.768
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Post by Future Captain on May 2, 2020 12:38:15 GMT -5
Saying that her best works (CFTS, half of TMYLM, etc) are only marginally better than this is just wrong tbh
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2020 13:27:45 GMT -5
Everything from Tell Me You Love Me alone is tremendously more than "marginally better" than this. I agree with this aside from Sorry Not Sorry That one I just never ever got behind The rest of that album is ace though
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Post by Az Paynter on May 3, 2020 8:26:37 GMT -5
POP: 14 14 DEMI LOVATO I Love Me 7632 7851 -219 29.230
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HOT AC: 17 17 DEMI LOVATO I Love Me 1967 1953 14 6.484
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2020 18:02:53 GMT -5
Welp looks like it's over, I expected this much to happen Maybe I'm Ready will do something?
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Post by Mike on May 5, 2020 13:24:42 GMT -5
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Post by Future Captain on May 5, 2020 17:54:10 GMT -5
Maybe trying to get a second wind?
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Post by Exclusive on May 5, 2020 18:00:21 GMT -5
They're probably just throwing out the remix for the fans/streaming purposes instead of having it locked up and not an actual attempt to rejuvenate interest. I'm not too upset about this falling already because it's far from her best. She needs to come stronger next time and not squander any momentum she has at the moment. The Sam Smith duet should hold over until they are ready to release something new for the album.
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Post by Au$tin on May 5, 2020 19:34:36 GMT -5
Honestly, I'm here for it. The songwriting is fine, it's the production that drags this down, so a new take could be very interesting. I highly doubt an "emo" version would be the thing to make it blow up, but it definitely has piqued my interest.
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Post by Future Captain on May 5, 2020 22:34:11 GMT -5
Honestly, I'm here for it. The songwriting is fine, it's the production that drags this down, so a new take could be very interesting. I highly doubt an "emo" version would be the thing to make it blow up, but it definitely has piqued my interest. same. I always think that Demi's vocals would fit well with punk-pop/rock ish production so curious how this turns out
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Post by Active Aggressive on May 5, 2020 22:38:19 GMT -5
Ew.
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Post by Exclusive on May 6, 2020 0:45:12 GMT -5
So apparently there is a Zac Samuel Remix for this.
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Post by 𝕡𝕙𝕖𝕖𝕓𝕤 on May 6, 2020 1:54:04 GMT -5
^ I don’t like it much, but it is creative. I like how Samuels adapted the loud-then-quiet style of the hook into house music
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Post by Mike on May 6, 2020 23:20:27 GMT -5
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Post by Exclusive on May 7, 2020 0:02:06 GMT -5
This emo version is very good. It's not too far off from her first two albums.
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Post by 🅳🅸🆂🅲🅾 on May 7, 2020 0:02:55 GMT -5
I love the Emo version.
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2020 0:33:40 GMT -5
Omg it's basically like a track from her first two albums I love it, the production instantly reminded me of Get Back.
I still love her first two albums the best tbh, pop-rock suited her really well. Definitely will play this more than I did the original
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Post by kimberly on May 7, 2020 0:42:37 GMT -5
I dig the emo version a lot! a much better hook this way
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Post by vithor on May 7, 2020 0:57:22 GMT -5
Should've been the official version, honestly
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Post by Au$tin on May 7, 2020 1:01:49 GMT -5
I'll have to listen a bit later, but that MySpace thumbnail
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Post by Peterawr on May 7, 2020 12:18:26 GMT -5
Good lord that suits her voice and this song perfectly.
I know pop-rock isn't "in" right now... but that's the music she needs to be releasing.
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Post by Au$tin on May 8, 2020 13:46:35 GMT -5
Oh. They just used the original vocal track? Horrible idea. She should have redone the vocal track to match the new style. Sounds way too disjointed for me. Gotta pass.
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Post by ilikemusic on May 8, 2020 14:14:21 GMT -5
Good lord that suits her voice and this song perfectly. I know pop-rock isn't "in" right now... but that's the music she needs to be releasing. Yup. She sounded the most authentic to me when she was doing pop rock music. I always wished she’d turn out to be more like Hayley Williams as she matured into an adult artist, but once she left Disney, she went the general pop route
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Post by 𝕡𝕙𝕖𝕖𝕓𝕤 on May 9, 2020 0:14:47 GMT -5
Oh. They just used the original vocal track? Horrible idea. She should have redone the vocal track to match the new style. Sounds way too disjointed for me. Gotta pass. We’re on the same page. It’s definitely a good idea, but the original vocals sound too “pop” for this kind of remix. Too polished
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