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Post by kierz7 on Mar 6, 2020 16:56:24 GMT -5
Have there been any part 2s of songs that have become hits of their own in the past? Diddy's "I Need A Girl (Part 2)" peaked at #4. Part 1 reached #2. I know I could just google this, but Usher’s ‘version’ was the highest peaking. Right? |
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Post by tanooki on Mar 6, 2020 16:57:51 GMT -5
"the state of music is changing, my favorite artists are becoming legacy artists and im scared" Rihanna, Adele, Drake, Kendrick.L etc. are “Legacy” artists? I’m SHOOK! (Beyoncé is one at this point though) Rihanna practically is, y'all forget she debuted 15 years ago. Adele, Drake, and Kendrick's mainstream careers are about ten years old that this point. There's still a lot of hype surrounding them but they're not the heavyweights anymore and by the end of the decade, all three will be legacy artists. The heavyweights now are Roddy Ricch and Dua Lipa. To be upset that artists past their prime aren't dominating music anymore is just silly, especially in pop music. |
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Post by violentdreams on Mar 6, 2020 17:01:04 GMT -5
No s**t. Just because it's a sequel doesn't mean that it needs to have the exact same flow, melody, and cadence and almost the exact same beat as the first one. It doesn't need to but it does. P2 is literally meant to be a continuation of XO, as in they can be played back to back Be that as it may, I said I don't think it's different enough to justify being a hit song in its own right. I'm fine with it existing, but if there's any songs on EA deserving of blowing up, that one is not it. |
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Post by tanooki on Mar 6, 2020 17:02:57 GMT -5
It doesn't need to but it does. P2 is literally meant to be a continuation of XO, as in they can be played back to back Be that as it may, I said I don't think it's different enough to justify being a hit song in its own right. I'm fine with it existing, but if there's any songs on EA deserving of blowing up, that one is not it. It's too early to tell which songs will be the biggest off of EA, I think P2 will have a strong debut but little longevity |
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Post by sirskimask on Mar 6, 2020 17:35:17 GMT -5
I never thought I would see the day... it's finally here omfg
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Post by tuna on Mar 6, 2020 17:49:47 GMT -5
I don’t see a problem with a sequel song becoming a hit. It recontextualizes XO Tour in a good enough way that it feels more like a sample than a straight copy. And that guitar is unstoppable.
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Post by tuna on Mar 6, 2020 18:00:00 GMT -5
using the YouTube view count, we can get a quick first-day idea of where each song will land on the charts.
Baby Pluto- 1.6M
Lo Mein- 829K
Silly Watch- 947K
POP- 557K
You Better Move- 500K
Homecoming- 586K
I'm Sorry- 529K
Celebration Station- 403K
Bigger Than Life- 392K
Chrome Heart Tags- 348K
Bust Me- 317K
Prices- 409K
Urgency (feat. Syd)- 244K
Venetia- 282K
Secure The Bag- 325K
P2- 725K
Futsal Shuffle 2020- 160K
That Way- 180K
(both of these also have official videos that I didn't count)
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Post by lurker2 on Mar 6, 2020 18:13:18 GMT -5
Rihanna, Adele, Drake, Kendrick.L etc. are “Legacy” artists? I’m SHOOK! (Beyoncé is one at this point though) Rihanna practically is, y'all forget she debuted 15 years ago. Adele, Drake, and Kendrick's mainstream careers are about ten years old that this point. There's still a lot of hype surrounding them but they're not the heavyweights anymore and by the end of the decade, all three will be legacy artists. The heavyweights now are Roddy Ricch and Dua Lipa. To be upset that artists past their prime aren't dominating music anymore is just silly, especially in pop music. I’d heavily disagree with this. It’s been a while since Rihanna or Adele released albums, but Kendrick and Drake got number one hits just two and three years ago. And Scorpion was his peak. Even though none of them are at their peak, they all seem like current stars. And Roddy and Dua aren’t the heavyweights right now, Dua doesn’t seem like she has a big fan base and Roddy is too new to call a star rn IMO, although I could totally see him being one. |
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Post by tanooki on Mar 6, 2020 18:15:04 GMT -5
Rihanna practically is, y'all forget she debuted 15 years ago. Adele, Drake, and Kendrick's mainstream careers are about ten years old that this point. There's still a lot of hype surrounding them but they're not the heavyweights anymore and by the end of the decade, all three will be legacy artists. The heavyweights now are Roddy Ricch and Dua Lipa. To be upset that artists past their prime aren't dominating music anymore is just silly, especially in pop music. I’d heavily disagree with this. It’s been a while since Rihanna or Adele released albums, but Kendrick and Drake got number one hits just two and three years ago. And Scorpion was his peak. Even though none of them are at their peak, they all seem like current stars. And Roddy and Dua aren’t the heavyweights right now, Dua doesn’t seem like she has a big fan base and Roddy is too new to call a star rn IMO, although I could totally see him being one. my main point is "the 2010s are over we're entering a brand new era of pop music" |
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on Mar 6, 2020 18:17:37 GMT -5
Is Lil Uzi Vert new album not available to stream via Apple Music? I don't see any songs other than That Way and Futsal Shuffle 2020 in the chart.
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Post by violentdreams on Mar 6, 2020 18:26:40 GMT -5
Is Lil Uzi Vert new album not available to stream via Apple Music? I don't see any songs other than That Way and Futshal Shuffle 2020 in the chart. That usually happens with mid day releases. Within the next few hours, it should update and have all of the songs charted. |
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Post by moonlite on Mar 6, 2020 18:31:28 GMT -5
Is Lil Uzi Vert new album not available to stream via Apple Music? I don't see any songs other than That Way and Futshal Shuffle 2020 in the chart. That usually happens with mid day releases. Within the next few hours, it should update and have all of the songs charted. Nah it should’ve been updated by now. It only takes 3-4 hours max for songs to first show up on the charts and its been over 7 hours since release at this point. Maybe he crashed their system |
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Post by iHype. on Mar 6, 2020 18:43:33 GMT -5
Rihanna, Adele, Drake, Kendrick.L etc. are “Legacy” artists? I’m SHOOK! (Beyoncé is one at this point though) Rihanna practically is, y'all forget she debuted 15 years ago. Adele, Drake, and Kendrick's mainstream careers are about ten years old that this point. There's still a lot of hype surrounding them but they're not the heavyweights anymore and by the end of the decade, all three will be legacy artists. The heavyweights now are Roddy Ricch and Dua Lipa. To be upset that artists past their prime aren't dominating music anymore is just silly, especially in pop music. What you mean to say is Rihanna/Drake/Adele/Kendrick are veterans, and Dua Lipa's & Roddy Rich's are the new hot artist. A legacy act is someone I'd say is far past their prime, which Rihanna/Drake/Adele/Kendrick aren't yet as far as we know. Hence they're known for their legacy hits, not really for their recent music. That's a Mariah, Madonna, Michael, etc. New & Hot artists (recently debuted, haven't left a notable mark yet, still a long way to go) -> Veteran artists (established, have left a mark, still recent huge success) -> Legacy artists (career cemented, mark cemented, their chapter of being a huge current name is far gone, and they'll be filling tour setlists with hits from old decades). |
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Post by tanooki on Mar 6, 2020 18:45:18 GMT -5
Rihanna practically is, y'all forget she debuted 15 years ago. Adele, Drake, and Kendrick's mainstream careers are about ten years old that this point. There's still a lot of hype surrounding them but they're not the heavyweights anymore and by the end of the decade, all three will be legacy artists. The heavyweights now are Roddy Ricch and Dua Lipa. To be upset that artists past their prime aren't dominating music anymore is just silly, especially in pop music. What you mean to say is Rihanna/Drake/Adele/Kendrick are veterans, and Dua Lipa's & Roddy Rich's are the new hot artist. A legacy act is someone I'd say is far past their prime, which Rihanna/Drake/Adele/Kendrick aren't yet as far as we know. Hence they're known for their legacy hits, not really for their recent music. That's a Mariah, Madonna, Michael, etc. In my original post i did say "becoming" legacy artists, not that they already are. |
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Post by violentdreams on Mar 6, 2020 18:45:28 GMT -5
That usually happens with mid day releases. Within the next few hours, it should update and have all of the songs charted. Nah it should’ve been updated by now. It only takes 3-4 hours max for songs to first show up on the charts and its been over 7 hours since release at this point. Maybe he crashed their system Well, while we're waiting for that update, I may as well speculate on the other AM album bombs before their positions get blown away by EA's debut. Jhene could be looking at a 80k-100k debut here, and idk about Megan but 60k seems realistic for her. |
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Post by iHype. on Mar 6, 2020 18:47:51 GMT -5
What you mean to say is Rihanna/Drake/Adele/Kendrick are veterans, and Dua Lipa's & Roddy Rich's are the new hot artist. A legacy act is someone I'd say is far past their prime, which Rihanna/Drake/Adele/Kendrick aren't yet as far as we know. Hence they're known for their legacy hits, not really for their recent music. That's a Mariah, Madonna, Michael, etc. In my original post i did say "becoming" legacy artists, not that they already are. I was also referring to you saying they're no longer heavyweights. They still are... Drake is literally #2 on the Hot 100 as we speak. Was the most streamed artist of 2019. They're just not the newest hot up and coming artists anymore, yes. A full generation of artists has debuted after them. |
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Post by strongerq on Mar 6, 2020 18:48:37 GMT -5
using the YouTube view count, we can get a quick first-day idea of where each song will land on the charts. P2- 725K I know you only used these numbers as a reference which tracks are the most popular, but just in case someone doesn't know there are 2 versions of the songs because of music.youtube. This happens a lot since the introduction of music.youtube for artists that upload audio versions on their channels. The second version says that it's Auto-generated by YouTube.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2020 18:53:45 GMT -5
Silly Watch is my pick for best on the album. That beat and flow are so hard.
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Post by tanooki on Mar 6, 2020 18:58:53 GMT -5
In my original post i did say "becoming" legacy artists, not that they already are. I was also referring to you saying they're no longer heavyweights. They still are... Drake is literally #2 on the Hot 100 as we speak. Was the most streamed artist of 2019. They're just not the newest hot up and coming artists anymore, yes. A full generation of artists has debuted after them. I guess I should rephrase, we're in a transitional period and the heavyweights of the 2010s are slowly beginning to fade away. Drake won't have the power he has in a few years, certainly by the end of the decade. |
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Post by m450n on Mar 6, 2020 19:07:22 GMT -5
The Weeknd's album rollout is probably one of the best album rollouts i've ever seen.
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Post by tuna on Mar 6, 2020 19:19:56 GMT -5
using the YouTube view count, we can get a quick first-day idea of where each song will land on the charts. P2- 725K I know you only used these numbers as a reference which tracks are the most popular, but just in case someone doesn't know there are 2 versions of the songs because of music.youtube. This happens a lot since the introduction of music.youtube for artists that upload audio versions on their channels. The second version says that it's Auto-generated by YouTube.
I used the auto-generated ones since they were- as it says- auto generated, and as such they've been up longer. |
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Post by shaz196 on Mar 6, 2020 19:40:28 GMT -5
What in the hell is wrong with AM? Why hasn't EA charted on it yet?
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Post by kingvavis on Mar 6, 2020 19:45:22 GMT -5
What in the hell is wrong with AM? Why hasn't EA charted on it yet? I didn't know the incredible video game publishers EA were dropping a song. What's it called? |
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Post by thegreatdivine on Mar 6, 2020 20:29:56 GMT -5
Rihanna, Adele, Drake, Kendrick.L etc. are “Legacy” artists? I’m SHOOK! (Beyoncé is one at this point though) Rihanna practically is, y'all forget she debuted 15 years ago. Adele, Drake, and Kendrick's mainstream careers are about ten years old that this point. There's still a lot of hype surrounding them but they're not the heavyweights anymore and by the end of the decade, all three will be legacy artists. The heavyweights now are Roddy Ricch and Dua Lipa. To be upset that artists past their prime aren't dominating music anymore is just silly, especially in pop music. EVERYTHING about your post is WRONG. How exactly are Adele, Drake and Kendrick no longer heavyweights? Do all artists automatically lose all their commercial appeal once their career hits the 10-year mark? Also, please explain how Roddy Ricch with ONE top 10 hit and Dua Lipa with TWO top 10 hits are now the "heavyweights." How are Adele and Drake "past their prime"? Is this all because they haven't released music in a while? Your entire post REEKS of recency bias. Yuck. |
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Post by tanooki on Mar 6, 2020 20:34:43 GMT -5
Rihanna practically is, y'all forget she debuted 15 years ago. Adele, Drake, and Kendrick's mainstream careers are about ten years old that this point. There's still a lot of hype surrounding them but they're not the heavyweights anymore and by the end of the decade, all three will be legacy artists. The heavyweights now are Roddy Ricch and Dua Lipa. To be upset that artists past their prime aren't dominating music anymore is just silly, especially in pop music. EVERYTHING about your post is WRONG. How exactly are Adele, Drake and Kendrick no longer heavyweights? Do all artists automatically lose all their commercial appeal once their career hits the 10-year mark? Also, please explain how Roddy Ricch with ONE top 10 hit and Dua Lipa with TWO top 10 hits are now the heavyweights? How are Adele and Drake "past their prime"? Is this all because they haven't released music in a while? Your entire post REEKS of recency bias. Yuck. i doubt that drake, adele, kendrick, etc. will release anything bigger than anything they've already released. they won't have a bigger era, and their relevance will begin to fade as people like roddy ricch and dua lipa take over and become the new massive stars. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2020 20:37:56 GMT -5
do you guys not remember yummy jfc
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Post by sirskimask on Mar 6, 2020 20:51:42 GMT -5
do you guys not remember yummy jfc Do you blame them? Who tf wants to remember Yummy |
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Post by iHype. on Mar 6, 2020 20:55:49 GMT -5
Apple Music does that constantly with new releases, even ones properly released at midnight. They'll continue updating the rolling chart but won't include the new releases for some hours. Uzi's tracks should be properly showing by the morning. Nonetheless, Jhene/HER have reached #1. Second female collab to (following "Hot Girl Summer").  |
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Post by thegreatdivine on Mar 6, 2020 21:00:55 GMT -5
EVERYTHING about your post is WRONG. How exactly are Adele, Drake and Kendrick no longer heavyweights? Do all artists automatically lose all their commercial appeal once their career hits the 10-year mark? Also, please explain how Roddy Ricch with ONE top 10 hit and Dua Lipa with TWO top 10 hits are now the heavyweights? How are Adele and Drake "past their prime"? Is this all because they haven't released music in a while? Your entire post REEKS of recency bias. Yuck. i doubt that drake, adele, kendrick, etc. will release anything bigger than anything they've already released. they won't have a bigger era, and their relevance will begin to fade as people like roddy ricch and dua lipa take over and become the new massive stars. You have no way of knowing that for sure. Everyone swore Hotline Bling would be Drake's biggest hit until One Dance happened and everyone swore One Dance and the Views era in 2016 would be his biggest era until God's Plan and the Scorpion era happened in 2018. I also don't think Kendrick has scored his biggest hit yet or peaked commercially and Adele is still a massive, major force. That won't just disappear because we're in a new decade. Sorry, but things don't work that way simply because you want them to. Your post is wrong because you didn't even mention artists like Ariana Grande and Post Malone, acts who have released more than one successful album and a handful of successful singles and who are still young enough that you can honestly call them the heavyweights of this new decade. Before last year, did you even know about Roddy Ricch? He scores one #1 hit and now he's a heavyweight? I guess Lil Nas X is a heavyweight too right? I can see it for Dua Lipa because she has a handful of hits with a massive debut album era behind her and her sophomore album era is shaping up to also be massive and she's already a touring force, but hold your horses adding Roddy Ricch into that conversation. Lastly, you have no idea how Drake, Kendrick, Rihanna or Adele's careers will pan out this decade. All you can do is guess. Eminem is still here 24 years later and is still scoring #1 albums and top 10 hits with ease. Not everyone will have that sort of longevity but you never know. We aren't even 3 full months into the new decade. How about you wait and see how the acts you mentioned perform with their first few albums of this decade before considering their careers dead in the water simply because they're 10 years in? |
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Post by tanooki on Mar 6, 2020 21:06:25 GMT -5
Yeah i did know who roddy ricch was last year lol
Yall forget how massive Scorpion was. I don't think Drake can top THAT, I just dont see it. Maybe I'll be proven wrong but Scorpion was a MOMENT. I also wouldn't be surprised if Kendrick doesn't surpass DAMN and Adele doesn't surpass 25. I also don't see Ari surpassing thank u next, either. 2018/2019 brought a massive amount of new artists like Billie Eilish, like Roddy, and we've seen artists who started in 15-17 blow up to new heights such as Khalid and Post Malone. Not to mention all the flop eras from stars like Katy Perry, Justin Timberlake, Eminem, and now Justin Bieber. If Juice WRLD didn't just die and wasn't on Godzilla, it wouldn't have debuted top 10. Y'all put too much bank into artists without watching the trends.
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