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Post by musicspy on Apr 20, 2020 13:44:22 GMT -5
There's still nothing Country about it, I'm not sure why they thought it was with the mix. Don't get me started on that goddamn clicking. How about the label gave this an actual push? The song is hanging on pretty fine on Apple and Itunes, receiving Pop and Country adds over the last weeks. Its been taking off at country radio ever since her album dropped. Wtf are they waiting for? I can see this being another Meant To Be, or at least another The Bones They are giving it an actual push, it's officially going for adds today...I foresee an adds date for HAC and Pop soon as well. I know there would be an adds date this or next Monday, it just feels a little late. The song has momentum and HQ? peaked almost a month ago
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Post by raylatch98 on Apr 20, 2020 14:39:52 GMT -5
4th most added song with 28 adds on add week. Not bad, but slightly underwhelming since Kelsea Ballerini is a decent well known name with country radio and this song seems to be connecting well with the general public.
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Post by bigfan101 on Apr 20, 2020 14:47:24 GMT -5
4th most added song with 28 adds on add week. Not bad, but slightly underwhelming since Kelsea Ballerini is a decent well known name with country radio and this song seems to be connecting well with the general public. That seems really low to me.
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Post by raylatch98 on Apr 20, 2020 14:51:22 GMT -5
4th most added song with 28 adds on add week. Not bad, but slightly underwhelming since Kelsea Ballerini is a decent well known name with country radio and this song seems to be connecting well with the general public. That seems really low to me. To be fair she was competing with Brad Paisley, Brett Eldredge and Luke Bryan. But I do think "Homecoming Queen" took out a bit of steam in the album era in regards to country radio.
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Post by Tylerjamesnerd on Apr 20, 2020 15:02:05 GMT -5
My problem with the song and maybe why this is seeing a potential slow start on country radio is it seems a little off IMO. She has always had a pop/country offering for country radio and that's normal from Kelsea, but to me this is 80 percent pop and 20 percent country, and that's subjective, others may feel different and that's ok. I know they sent a country edit to radio, but why would you need to put a country mix on a song that's already suppose to be country. So if you're making a mostly pop record with songs that need country edits for radio I can assume maybe they feel she's already abandoning her country radio scene for her big glow up on pop/hac. That's all speculation and I could be off my rocker. I like Kelsea though and want her to succeed.
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Post by .indulgecountry on Apr 20, 2020 15:48:32 GMT -5
That seems really low to me. To be fair she was competing with Brad Paisley, Brett Eldredge and Luke Bryan. But I do think "Homecoming Queen" took out a bit of steam in the album era in regards to country radio. The adds date does seem a bit low to me as well, but yeah, she didn't have the adds date to herself here. Also, in total fairness, it's not like Brad Paisley is going to do better at country radio with his new single just because he got more adds here. Brett Eldredge also had some hype leading into his release after not having anything out at radio for awhile, and his single only raked in about the same amount as Kelsea Ballerini did. Luke Bryan's one of the format's biggest stars and "One Margarita" is connecting really well so far, but I still would be very surprised if "The Other Girl" didn't easily outperform "No I in Beer" and "Gabrielle" on the charts when all is said and done.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2020 15:52:52 GMT -5
My problem with the song and maybe why this is seeing a potential slow start on country radio is it seems a little off IMO. She has always had a pop/country offering for country radio and that's normal from Kelsea, but to me this is 80 percent pop and 20 percent country, and that's subjective, others may feel different and that's ok. I know they sent a country edit to radio, but why would you need to put a country mix on a song that's already suppose to be country. So if you're making a mostly pop record with songs that need country edits for radio I can assume maybe they feel she's already abandoning her country radio scene for her big glow up on pop/hac. That's all speculation and I could be off my rocker. I like Kelsea though and want her to succeed. I think it would be a bit difficult for her to transition away from the country genre now that she is an Opry member. Accepting that invitation comes with the agreement that certain yearly benchmarks will be met. I think the objective of kelsea was to experiment with different sounds and themes. I don’t think she intends to separate herself from the format.
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Post by aldo01 on Apr 20, 2020 16:09:03 GMT -5
Just listened to the new mix... I really hope that is not the "country" version they are sending to radio, it sounds like a karaoke base with Kelsea and Halsey in it. They might as well skip and release the album mix to radio instead.
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Post by Elusive Chanteuse on Apr 21, 2020 15:02:12 GMT -5
I’m truthfully not surprised at the low number of adds. There are three factors that came into play here imo.
First, yesterday was a competitive adds date. Second, homecoming queen wasn’t a hit, it was an underperformance which means there aren’t much hype for Kelsea. Third, this is also a straight up Pop song and the supposedly “Country mix” isn’t any better tbh.
I personally would’ve kept this as a Pop/HAC only single and sent Half Of My Hometown here instead.
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Post by austin on Apr 22, 2020 7:54:28 GMT -5
That is the mix they sent to country radio, according to Kelsea's Twitter last week saying the mix would be out for streaming and for country radio.
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Post by Kanenrá:ke on Apr 22, 2020 11:00:20 GMT -5
That new mix is so awful, I hate that clicking sound!
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Post by christinafazz9 on Apr 22, 2020 11:12:32 GMT -5
I’m truthfully not surprised at the low number of adds. There are three factors that came into play here imo. First, yesterday was a competitive adds date. Second, homecoming queen wasn’t a hit, it was an underperformance which means there aren’t much hype for Kelsea. Third, this is also a straight up Pop song and the supposedly “Country mix” isn’t any better tbh. I personally would’ve kept this as a Pop/HAC only single and sent Half Of My Hometown here instead. Hole In the Bottle says hi lol
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Post by taylor on Apr 22, 2020 12:10:55 GMT -5
That is the mix they sent to country radio, according to Kelsea's Twitter last week saying the mix would be out for streaming and for country radio. lol kelsea girl the new mix ain't country
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Post by Elusive Chanteuse on Apr 22, 2020 12:13:44 GMT -5
I’m truthfully not surprised at the low number of adds. There are three factors that came into play here imo. First, yesterday was a competitive adds date. Second, homecoming queen wasn’t a hit, it was an underperformance which means there aren’t much hype for Kelsea. Third, this is also a straight up Pop song and the supposedly “Country mix” isn’t any better tbh. I personally would’ve kept this as a Pop/HAC only single and sent Half Of My Hometown here instead. Hole In the Bottle says hi lol I definitely didn’t forget lol. I love the song and would’ve done it third! But I will go with Half of My Hometown as second regardless to bring back the hype she lost with homecoming queen.
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Post by raylatch98 on Apr 27, 2020 17:45:53 GMT -5
I will say the fact that this was the only single that went for adds last week that wasn't in the Top 10 for most added this week (at most this got 8 adds on Mediabase which is very underwhelming imo) is definitely making me more concerned for this song's longterm chart prospects.
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Post by Kanenrá:ke on Apr 27, 2020 17:55:36 GMT -5
I will say the fact that this was the only single that went for adds last week that wasn't in the Top 10 for most added this week (at most this got 8 adds on Mediabase which is very underwhelming imo) is definitely making me more concerned for this song's longterm chart prospects. It got 2 adds this week...
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Post by raylatch98 on Apr 27, 2020 17:57:07 GMT -5
I will say the fact that this was the only single that went for adds last week that wasn't in the Top 10 for most added this week (at most this got 8 adds on Mediabase which is very underwhelming imo) is definitely making me more concerned for this song's longterm chart prospects. It got 2 adds this week... Oh . I would not be shocked if Black River abandons ship by July.
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Post by Kanenrá:ke on Apr 27, 2020 18:02:46 GMT -5
It got 2 adds this week... Oh . I would not be shocked if Black River abandons ship by July. I think if things don't improve in the next few weeks they may have to. This is a bad start no matter how you try to look at it. I'd be already contemplating changing it if I were the lable.
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Post by austin on Apr 27, 2020 18:05:10 GMT -5
This does not sound like a country hit to me at all. It’s not that good and Halsey is overpowering. It does sound like a pop hit though.
Send out Half Of My Hometown and pretend this never went for adds.
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Post by bigd79 on Apr 27, 2020 20:03:27 GMT -5
more double standards by what i can tell. This song is definitely a pop song, but if Sam Hunt can get away with it with his crappy pop music on country radio, Kelsea should be able to also. Im a perfect country radio world neither of them would be able to get away with it, but yet here we are, one is struggling and the male just flies up the chart.
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Post by jab820 on Apr 27, 2020 20:08:43 GMT -5
Abandon ship and try again with another song (HOMH or HITB). This is clearly getting a big NO from radio.
I like the song well enough so that's disappointing to me. At the same time, just push it to pop where it belongs and let the country songs on the album (which are the gems in my opinion) go to radio.
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Post by Crimsonio on Apr 27, 2020 20:35:16 GMT -5
I'm surprised at how much this is getting a NO from country radio. I mean it's not more pop than The Fighter or Leave The Night On/
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Post by fearlessarrow on Apr 27, 2020 20:43:18 GMT -5
Wow I was wondering this song hadn't shown up anywhere and omg I didn't expect it to do this bad. I think pulling the single (could still send it to pop/HAC/AC if they wanted to) and releasing "hole in the bottle" ("Half of My Hometown" would be a good choice too but I just think with quarantine happening now and people seem to be drinking more + an uptempo coming off "homecoming queen?" I'm leaning towards "hole" as the better single choice) is the best bet at this point.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2020 20:44:13 GMT -5
Hmm... I guess adding clicking sounds in the background didn’t make this a country song..
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Post by raylatch98 on Apr 27, 2020 21:04:02 GMT -5
I'm surprised at how much this is getting a NO from country radio. I mean it's not more pop than The Fighter or Leave The Night On/ I think why "The Fighter" and Sam Hunt in general succeed while this falters is how much they are established at country music in the former case, and how popular the latter is. Kelsea Ballerini is also popular but she has never had the "hype" in the industry that a Luke Combs, Maren Morris, Sam Hunt have had in the latter years of the 2010s. I also think having a song that is very leaning on the pop side of the pop-country spectrum, with a female pop singer, and having it be the follow-up to her second lowest charting hit that was on the other end of the country music spectrum was also not the best idea. I do think country radio is being sexist to a degree, but I suspect if a male singer like (*insert random unknown male singer) had this type of production, they'd also struggle.
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Post by recordyear on Apr 27, 2020 21:17:17 GMT -5
I also think having a song that is very leaning on the pop side of the pop-country spectrum, with a female pop singer, and having it be the follow-up to her second lowest charting hit that was on the other end of the country music spectrum was also not the best idea. I get what you mean, but it reminds me of Meant To Be's situation. FGL's own Smooth also tanked at that time.
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Post by g8erboi on Apr 27, 2020 21:45:25 GMT -5
Absolutely abysmal add numbers. I can definitely see them pulling this in favor of HITB.
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Post by jab820 on Apr 27, 2020 21:53:24 GMT -5
There is a whole page on this song in Billboard tonight. And, umm, this is how it starts:
"Hardly a week goes by without a sitcom one-liner or a talk-show monologue referencing girl-on-girl action, often portraying a guy on the side who’s living out some vicarious fantasy. The storyline of “the other girl” is not exactly what that guy is craving."
I have officially decided sexism is THE reason this song is DOA.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2020 21:53:43 GMT -5
Since double-standards have been brought up, I’d like to suggest a better comparison than that to Sam Hunt.
My take is that country radio isn’t shutting Kelsea out, but rejecting Halsey. We all knew upon first listen that “the other girl” wasn’t a country song, and “[the other mix]” solidified that there was not much they could do to convert it to such without losing the spirit of the original track.
That said, radio fully embraced Dan + Shay’s collaboration with Justin Bieber, “10,000 Hours.” Like “the other girl,” that single didn’t boast the sonic elements typical of singles released in the format; despite such, it performed terrifically at radio. Dan + Shay seem to have more overall clout than Ballerini does, but she does have a high visibility factor within the country music industry in terms of female artists.
The cold response to “the other girl” extends beyond the public’s lukewarm engagement with “homecoming queen?” This is a deliberate shut-out and a bad move on Black River’s part. They were banking on name recognition to try and cultivate a crossover hit, but that can’t happen if a single doesn’t launch properly within its primary format and there’s no interest generated for the featured artist. There were two safer choices that were overlooked, despite the fact that the kelsea era started out on shaky ground.
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Post by .indulgecountry on Apr 27, 2020 22:05:50 GMT -5
This is... disappointing. I'm not sure what happens next, but I think pulling the plug and scrambling to release something else might not be any better of a look at this point. They should definitely hustle and get this over to CHR/HAC stations though, because even though country radio doesn't seem too enthused with it, I think there's definitely potential for this somewhere and that might be the better path to success for this one, especially now that country is being tepid to add it. "The Other Girl" is definitely getting the biggest response out of all the songs on the album though, so it's a hit with consumers. I could see them pushing this one for at least a few months even if it ultimately doesn't get a lot of traction at radio, just to milk it with streaming/sales/etc. and then maybe they can try "Hole in the Bottle," which sounds like the country smash of the record.
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