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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2020 18:09:27 GMT -5
Ooh I'm excited triplefold for Monday and Tuesday!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2020 19:19:45 GMT -5
Tag me the moment she does Fly Like A Bird thanks in advance!
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Post by StrongBreakaway on Jul 30, 2020 12:19:32 GMT -5
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Post by neally on Aug 3, 2020 8:17:31 GMT -5
Kellyoke is back - those vocals ! Sang as if this was a message from her personal life ? I wonder what conversations Kelly is having with NBC/Universal as the Ellen show is moving closer to being canceled with the reported “toxic culture” of the show and with the celebrities coming out of the woodwork daily to speak on it. This and her recent Emmy win should give Kelly leverage for more money and perhaps a bigger budget if she can capture some of Ellen’s viewing audience if that show indeed goes away. youtu.be/YK5DsQ1TNh0
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Post by musicfan134 on Aug 3, 2020 19:06:32 GMT -5
Do we actually think Ellen will get cancelled? Like for real?
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Post by Au$tin on Aug 3, 2020 19:16:28 GMT -5
Do we actually think Ellen will get cancelled? Like for real? Not a chance unless the investigation comes back with something truly heinous. It's much more likely Ellen quits.
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Post by Au$tin on Aug 3, 2020 19:20:21 GMT -5
I'm confused with this video. It appears to be her history of Spotify streams, but it has data dating all the way back to 2002? How can that be when Spotify didn't even exist until 2008?
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Post by slowmo on Aug 3, 2020 22:10:32 GMT -5
Like Austin said, Ellen won't get cancelled in the traditional sense, she'll quit first. But what will be interesting to see over the course of this next season is if some of A guests start to shift to other shows, like Kelly's. She's proven herself this first season where I think some of those agents and whatnot would be looking at her show more, then add in the all that's going on with Ellen, this could be very good news for Kelly and her crew. Not that I'm enjoying seeing someone being taken down like Ellen is right now, but I do like to see good things happen for good people.
I've been seeing a few posts like this popping up too.
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Post by StrongBreakaway on Aug 4, 2020 3:08:40 GMT -5
I'm confused with this video. It appears to be her history of Spotify streams, but it has data dating all the way back to 2002? How can that be when Spotify didn't even exist until 2008? I know it's confusing. Took me a minute to understand. In order to show each era's success, compared to other eras, they went for a chronological release date order. For example Thankful was released in 2003 but it shows its streaming performance from 2008 on etc. [or whenever it was available on Spotify]
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Post by Mike on Aug 4, 2020 9:06:19 GMT -5
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Post by QAF on Aug 5, 2020 9:23:25 GMT -5
I can't take it.
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Post by BDGeek on Aug 5, 2020 13:04:35 GMT -5
Wow, she demolished "Moral of the Story." Clear connection to the lyrics. Loved her Rosemary Clooney-esque vocals.
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Post by keeptheflowers on Aug 5, 2020 13:55:23 GMT -5
This woman is my image of strength especially during the days when I was heartbroken, so it pains me that she's going through this. She's a strong woman but i hope she's getting all the love and support right now. Love you Kelly ❤️
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Post by slowmo on Aug 5, 2020 14:43:24 GMT -5
Wow, I knew today's cover was going to be something. I still wasn't quite ready for what she did. ❤❤❤
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Post by dbhmr on Aug 5, 2020 14:56:40 GMT -5
I'm in a mood so this may come out wrong or even misrepresent my full thoughts but...
With so many of these covers coming through, it's fascinating to watch her deliver such lived-in, felt performances for songs that are both not hers and ones she's learned in about a day. Her ability to connect a listener to the lyrics with her voice and emotion is unparalleled.
So...why hasn't that been the focus of her music? I'll defend her songwriting and her overall discography to the end, but it's impossible for me to listen to all these covers and think that her material has lived up to her talent. What would her career look like if she had been able to follow in her idols' footsteps, particularly the Patty Griffin/Brandi Carlile lane?
She ostensibly has an unlimited vocal range, can easily transcend genres, and has a unique combination of excellent technique with an approachable, emotive tone that strips away some of the soullessness that can come from too much vocal training. And yet she's been relegated to status quo pop radio fodder for the majority of her career.
I'm not discounting all the moments she's risen above that, and they are numerous, but I do believe one of the reasons her covers wow so many so consistently is it's all of her talent matched with really excellent music. To be fair, she basically gets to cherry pick the best songs from these artists and it's not like those songs are always representative of that artists' discography, nor do their body of work necessarily top Kelly's own, but it's become apparent that she shines most covering others' songs, and I think that speaks more to the songs she's covering than anything else.
She's just such a good writer, I wish she'd follow that path more. I think we'd see her own versions of "The Joke," "The Moral of the Story," etc. They're there in her own discography--"Piece by Piece," "Tightrope," "In the Blue," "Irvine," "Maybe," etc.--but those types of songs aren't what she's known for. And at this point in her career, I'd love to see her ditch radio and follow her musical passions and own taste. There's just no way she believes "I Dare You" is on a par with over half of the songs she covers, at least.
I'm thrilled we got the Meaning of Life as it was. You could feel the freedom and excitement she had for this new phase in her career and so an energetic, loud, brassy album was more than called for. There was good material on there for radio too, but they didn't bite.
I don't think, outside of features, there's an "uptempo smash" in her future, so why try? What is left to mine there? I'm not saying ditch anything that isn't acoustic--"Didn't I" wasn't radio fodder and was excellent, and felt very authentic to her--but I feel like she's been so oddly bound to commercial, particularly radio, success in spite of that not being a relevant metric for her for years.
There's no reason for her to not release her own variant of Golden Hour or Folklore (I'd love to say Anti but tbh I just don't think she's remotely interested in being that "cool").
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Post by Peterawr on Aug 5, 2020 15:19:37 GMT -5
I’m hoping she writes more as well. When her writing is good: it is GOOD. Some of the best songs of her career were penned by her and I want more.
I 100% agree. While her single choices do tend to be “on brand,” they also rarely are representative of her talent. Songs like Heartbeat Song and I Dare You, while perfectly polished and sung impeccably, don’t pack the same punch of quality that “Maybe” and “In The Blue” and “Tightrope” have
Sadly, one of the singles where I feel the quality of the song matched her vocal superiority and ability to emote is “Already Gone” and I would love more of that.
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Post by slowmo on Aug 5, 2020 16:18:23 GMT -5
I was just talking to a friend recently about this next album. It'll be 3+ years since she worked on material for MOL and she's had so many different life experiences since then. Over the past year or so she's said she'd been working on songs here and there, then what was is it in April she was saying she was working on it in a more focused manner? Especially in the writing department? I hope that's continuing now and that she's not using these covers as a full cathartic release and she's channeling some of her emotions into music.
I don't think it has to be an either/or in terms of looking for a commercial hit and having a wholly "her" album, but I do agree 100% that she would benefit immensely if she and the label focused on an authentically her album and maybe that commercial hit will come organically from that. Or even a moderate hit. I think that's something people have been really wanting from her and MOL was heading in the right direction. I don't even need or want a divorce/breakup album, but instead a life album that hits on the ups and downs of life, the joy and the ugly which there's been plenty of in recent years. And I would absolutely love it if she would hook up with a single producer for this album that could really coax it out of her and stretch her out of her comfort zone a little bit. I fully believe she has a "holy shit" album hiding in her still.
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Post by jessayli on Aug 5, 2020 19:15:47 GMT -5
I completely agree. I’m really, really hoping we see more of Kelly’s songwriting on this next album (which, encouragingly, she has suggested will be the case). I miss the artist who was passionate about songwriting and advocated to get songs that expressed her unique perspective and experiences on her albums.
As an outside observer, it always seemed like Kelly was open to supporting other writers by recording songs that she connected with, while also invested in being one of the primary songwriters on her albums. Particularly at the start of her career, RCA was not interested in supporting Kelly’s development as a songwriter, which likely encouraged Kelly to fight even harder to get her songs on her albums.
As we know, this led to the infamous “Kelly vs Clive” battle leading up to My December, resulting in Kelly being perceived by some as stubborn and ungrateful, and by others as a noteworthy artist fighting against a sexist industry to have her voice heard. Kelly seemed unhappy with both sides of this public conversation, and said herself that she never intended to be the “Joan of Arc of the music industry.”
Ever since All I Ever Wanted, it seems like Kelly has been backpedaling on her interest in being a songwriter. I’ve wondered how much of this was the result of feeing like she had to prove that she’s actually fine accepting other writers’ songs, and that she is indeed happy to work collaboratively with others. Almost like she had to overcompensate for fighting so hard the few years prior.
I can’t help but imagine where Kelly would be now if RCA took an interest in her as a songwriter from the start. Would she still have ended up releasing albums years later with only three songs written by her? Atlantic seems like such an amazing and supportive record label - something Kelly needed earlier in her career. And while Meaning Of Life was a great album, I really hope she challenges herself to produce albums with herself as the primary songwriter over the coming years. I miss that so much as a fan.
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Post by G-Reg on Aug 5, 2020 19:24:23 GMT -5
While she has written amazing stuff, I honestly think My December wasn't a great album and not because of her songwriting or singing but because 100% of the horrible production. The other problem like I mentioned before is that she's a TV host mom lady now, so her TV fans are mostly middle aged women, who may or may not respond well to Brandi Carlile (amazing) type music, if she can get the production and songwriting to mesh well together in that style. She came so so close with Meaning of Life. She's in a difficult spot. But for her real fans she always makes great music. I've thoroughly enjoyed every single one of her albums. Want one now!
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Post by Marooned@Midnight on Aug 5, 2020 19:49:20 GMT -5
Moral of the story hit me where it hurt. I’ve heard that song several times and have honestly never paid attention to it. Kelly sang it and brought tears to my eyes. She is so gifted and I 1,000 % agree with the sentiment that we need more of this raw side of her (including HER writing) on her next effort.
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Post by Mike on Aug 6, 2020 8:02:04 GMT -5
Side note - She tweeted something in the middle of the night, but it was deleted when I went to click the notification (thereby, deleting the notification as well). Someone uploaded something to to TikTok about her performance/song from yesterday of "Moral of the Story" by Ashe and she was NOT happy about it. I'm guessing someone on her team caught it and deleted it. Very strange.
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Post by QAF on Aug 6, 2020 8:56:58 GMT -5
Damn Kelly! These last couple of covers are killing me.
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Post by Mike on Aug 6, 2020 9:59:09 GMT -5
I don’t know how she does it! Incredible covers this week.
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Post by d3vin44 on Aug 6, 2020 12:13:29 GMT -5
She referenced “The Kelly Clarkson Show” sharing the video as “a tick-tok song” and said she didn’t write that, has no idea who did or what it means. Then went on to praise the artist and the song.
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Post by Mike on Aug 6, 2020 13:14:37 GMT -5
She referenced “The Kelly Clarkson Show” sharing the video as “a tick-tok song” and said she didn’t write that, has no idea who did or what it means. Then went on to praise the artist and the song. What are you talking about?
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Post by slowmo on Aug 6, 2020 13:37:37 GMT -5
She referenced “The Kelly Clarkson Show” sharing the video as “a tick-tok song” and said she didn’t write that, has no idea who did or what it means. Then went on to praise the artist and the song. What are you talking about? The tweets that were deleted late last night. She quoted the TKCS tweet with the Moral of the Story video in it, they made some weird caption about it being a famous tiktok song. She said she didn't write that or approve of it and wanted Ashe to know that she loved her work. I missed the next tweet that she was replying to but I think it was probably something about her going after her staff and who wrote the tweet and she responded to that by telling them to not "twist it" and she loves her crew. And then reiterated that she just wanted Ashe to know that she genuinely loves her music and knows of it by the "old fashioned way of owning it" and not because she randomly heard it on tiktok. Both the TKCS tweets with the weird caption that she called out and the follow up they did later in the day trying to clarifying it's more than a tiktok song were deleted. It was all weird and not really an issue. lol When she did I'm Movin' On 15 years ago, it was good. It's still good in such a different lived in way now.
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Post by QAF on Aug 6, 2020 14:26:18 GMT -5
Looks like it may have been a misunderstanding. I found this:
The song has also become an empathetic social meme on TikTok. According to the social platform, it’s been used more than 900,000 for videos since June.
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