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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2020 23:17:35 GMT -5
Haha I deserve that 4. I didn’t play a great game. A few comments of clarification - I think I told Mylo things because I did think that group of 4 was legit for longer than it was. The time I mentioned about possibly wanting Ry4n our (when he ratted me out) was a last-ditch effort knowing he’d probably rat but not being 100% - by then I was 100% and stopped with him. My throwaway vote for mylo was kind of me saying f**k it to everything. I hadn’t given up quite yet but it was part of a whole, I need to actually do something if I want something to happen. I promise there was a strategy behind it despite it being kind of “I give up” in its premise. So really, I’d be willing to giving Mylo a few points for being the thorn in my side post-merge to f**k up my game. But I’d also take it away again because I know it wasn’t done with any sort of plan or intention. I’m soooo curious to see how the game would have ended up had Mylo voted. Would I have been targeted next? Would we have gone to rocks again. I was just waking up to play (finally) and then boom! Black rock. I’m still salty. game probably have become even more of a clusterfuck than it already was; since all the players seemed to think ry4n was the one in the 'lead' it would have truly left everything up in the air. I think that next elimination would have been a D12 vs. Zeebz battle for control of the island, and I don't know how that would have worked out - it took Zeebz and enya losing you to realize they needed to unite, so you still being there would likely have prevented that from happening. But, you being there might have also protected them both bc you would have steered things away from the two of them for your own reasons. And neither would have targeted you bc they needed you. Leo would have been a vote up for grabs, but I'm not sure which direction he would have taken in that circumstance. Another rock draw could have been very possible.
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Post by austin on Jun 27, 2020 23:26:01 GMT -5
Actually I agree with everything but what happened with enya was he said MY name to go home right before merge but I won piano tiles and was immune. The mayman thing we got over immediately, but if you say my name, you go home (or I do LOL).
So then when the Returnee twist happened (which I had no idea was coming) I was screwed because I just voted enya out.
So I don’t regret being mad he was gunning for me first. I had no choice. Narwhals was too but it didn’t bother me because his logic made more sense than enya who I really thought was my ride or ride, so I tried to show him I would be honest with him, and work with him until the end. But he didn’t agree.
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Post by austin on Jun 27, 2020 23:26:44 GMT -5
But I 100% needed to lay back, and not doing it sent me home!
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Post by mcsteamy on Jun 27, 2020 23:31:55 GMT -5
So I'm the best all around player? Tied in score with the finalist? And better score than the winner? I already knew that but thank you for bringing it to the light. When I hosted Raja I said it's not really correct to call you a villain. People do it bc of your attitude but your actual style of play is very clean. I also wish I'd gotten to see more of you and gabe together Me too, I was excited cuz he was the one closest to my attitude (yes, I'm an arrogant bitch in the real world too) and then we hit it off right off the bt it was incredible, down to our Bitches PM
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Post by mcsteamy on Jun 27, 2020 23:33:16 GMT -5
But I 100% needed to lay back, and not doing it sent me home! especiallu wheneveryone knew you were behind most of the stuff but every pm, except our fight and me gloating about getting rid off that slaty player, ws "oh idk ehat's going on" lmao I was cackling at you playing innocent.
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Post by austin on Jun 27, 2020 23:40:29 GMT -5
Also I wanted to vote Austin out for revenge from the pre-tribe vote out of enya. I really didn’t think he was with us at all. You voted for enya too!!! Lol I’m jk But what happened there was exactly what I told you - enya told me you were saying my name, I said OK. Brayden and shooter told me enya was saying MY name. I said OK. I won immunity, I decided your decision to boot me made more sense (you prob felt like I was closer with shooter than you) but enya made no sense at that moment because him and I were #1s (or so I thought) so I thought just coming clean to you would make us closer. Big mistake for me. Then when enya returned I was screwed, until Gabe left and I realized we were golden, that’s why I was trying to resurrect #killer3 - it benefited all of us but actually mostly you as you had no one else but enya that wanted to work with you. I was surprised when you weren’t receptive but I get it. I’m open each round to whatever makes sense, I don’t really hold grudges, I was definitely cool with you.
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Post by austin on Jun 27, 2020 23:42:19 GMT -5
But I 100% needed to lay back, and not doing it sent me home! especiallu wheneveryone knew you were behind most of the stuff but every pm, except our fight and me gloating about getting rid off that slaty player, ws "oh idk ehat's going on" lmao I was cackling at you playing innocent. To be fair, Bigfan didn’t know and believed I was on the bottom. LMAO
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Post by mcsteamy on Jun 27, 2020 23:43:12 GMT -5
When I hosted Raja I said it's not really correct to call you a villain. People do it bc of your attitude but your actual style of play is very clean. I also wish I'd gotten to see more of you and gabe together[/quote] Besides my attitude, which lbr it's real, I have yet do do anything that would make me the villain, calling people out for their laziness on immunity challnges or calling them out when they're wrong or you know, saying the truth shouldn't be considered being a villain, a bitch yes. a villain? no. I don't think I've ever backstabbed one of my allies in this game, ever.
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Post by mcsteamy on Jun 27, 2020 23:54:25 GMT -5
especiallu wheneveryone knew you were behind most of the stuff but every pm, except our fight and me gloating about getting rid off that slaty player, ws "oh idk ehat's going on" lmao I was cackling at you playing innocent. To be fair, Bigfan didn’t know and believed I was on the bottom. LMAO voting bigfan out was probably your biggest mistake in the game he was never gonna work with us so, lol.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2020 23:55:18 GMT -5
Also I wanted to vote Austin out for revenge from the pre-tribe vote out of enya. I really didn’t think he was with us at all. You voted for enya too!!! Lol I’m jk But what happened there was exactly what I told you - enya told me you were saying my name, I said OK. Brayden and shooter told me enya was saying MY name. I said OK. I won immunity, I decided your decision to boot me made more sense (you prob felt like I was closer with shooter than you) but enya made no sense at that moment because him and I were #1s (or so I thought) so I thought just coming clean to you would make us closer. Big mistake for me. Then when enya returned I was screwed, until Gabe left and I realized we were golden, that’s why I was trying to resurrect #killer3 - it benefited all of us but actually mostly you as you had no one else but enya that wanted to work with you. I was surprised when you weren’t receptive but I get it. I’m open each round to whatever makes sense, I don’t really hold grudges, I was definitely cool with you. Believe me I didn’t want to vote enya but it was the only choice I had! I tried to bump our killer3 PM, when you didn’t even reply I knew it was done. & I had no clue that shooter & brayden told you enya was coming for you?
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Post by austin on Jun 27, 2020 23:57:12 GMT -5
You voted for enya too!!! Lol I’m jk But what happened there was exactly what I told you - enya told me you were saying my name, I said OK. Brayden and shooter told me enya was saying MY name. I said OK. I won immunity, I decided your decision to boot me made more sense (you prob felt like I was closer with shooter than you) but enya made no sense at that moment because him and I were #1s (or so I thought) so I thought just coming clean to you would make us closer. Big mistake for me. Then when enya returned I was screwed, until Gabe left and I realized we were golden, that’s why I was trying to resurrect #killer3 - it benefited all of us but actually mostly you as you had no one else but enya that wanted to work with you. I was surprised when you weren’t receptive but I get it. I’m open each round to whatever makes sense, I don’t really hold grudges, I was definitely cool with you. Believe me I didn’t want to vote enya but it was the only choice I had! I tried to bump our killer3 PM, when you didn’t even reply I knew it was done. & I had no clue that shooter & brayden told you enya was coming for you? I wrote it to you in my long message about knowing you were coming for me, and why we needed to band together and take enya out with them. That was my entire reason for voting out enya lol
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Post by austin on Jun 28, 2020 0:00:44 GMT -5
To be fair, Bigfan didn’t know and believed I was on the bottom. LMAO voting bigfan out was probably your biggest mistake in the game he was never gonna work with us so, lol. The move only made sense for ME. He was making an alliance with the entire other side of max/mylo/brayden/zeebz/ryan (but not me) and lying about voting shooter. He was telling them I made everyone uNcomfortable, then voted enya knowing he had an idol thinking I would still go home from the mcstesmy side votes. It was actually for ME a good move, but bad for the others I think - I picked up his place with the others and kicked mylo out to add Leo. I also thought I could still work with enya and narwhals later, who I liked from the swap tribe, but that was my mistake.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2020 0:06:10 GMT -5
Believe me I didn’t want to vote enya but it was the only choice I had! I tried to bump our killer3 PM, when you didn’t even reply I knew it was done. & I had no clue that shooter & brayden told you enya was coming for you? I wrote it to you in my long message about knowing you were coming for me, and why we needed to band together and take enya out with them. That was my entire reason for voting out enya lol those long messages were legendary lol, I can remember telling enya & McSteamy about them. I think McSteamy really wanted to get one too 😂 But now it makes sense why enya was pushing for zebra instead of you (on the vote you left). And I didn’t believe much of it
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Post by mcsteamy on Jun 28, 2020 0:07:04 GMT -5
voting bigfan out was probably your biggest mistake in the game he was never gonna work with us so, lol. The move only made sense for ME. He was making an alliance with the entire other side of max/mylo/brayden/zeebz/ryan (but not me) and lying about voting shooter. He was telling them I made everyone uNcomfortable, then voted enya knowing he had an idol thinking I would still go home from the mcstesmy side votes. It was actually for ME a good move, but bad for the others I think - I picked up his place with the others and kicked mylo out to add Leo. I also thought I could still work with enya and narwhals later, who I liked from the swap tribe, but that was my mistake. bigfan did not know enya had an idol, the only ones who knew were narhwlas and I. As if we'd ever tell bigfan our main plans after knowing how awful he is at these games.
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Post by Enyasurvivor on Jun 28, 2020 0:08:59 GMT -5
Actually I agree with everything but what happened with enya was he said MY name to go home right before merge but I won piano tiles and was immune. The mayman thing we got over immediately, but if you say my name, you go home (or I do LOL). So then when the Returnee twist happened (which I had no idea was coming) I was screwed because I just voted enya out. So I don’t regret being mad he was gunning for me first. I had no choice. Narwhals was too but it didn’t bother me because his logic made more sense than enya who I really thought was my ride or ride, so I tried to show him I would be honest with him, and work with him until the end. But he didn’t agree. I want to clear up that I never said your name. I gave pros and cons of getting rid of you and narwhals to brayden and SHOOTER did that stupid A thing. I wasn't attempting this massive blindside or anything of the like, merely trying to show brayden that I wanted to work with him and appear like a pair to him by being impartial to getting rid of you or narwhals.
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Post by austin on Jun 28, 2020 0:09:32 GMT -5
The move only made sense for ME. He was making an alliance with the entire other side of max/mylo/brayden/zeebz/ryan (but not me) and lying about voting shooter. He was telling them I made everyone uNcomfortable, then voted enya knowing he had an idol thinking I would still go home from the mcstesmy side votes. It was actually for ME a good move, but bad for the others I think - I picked up his place with the others and kicked mylo out to add Leo. I also thought I could still work with enya and narwhals later, who I liked from the swap tribe, but that was my mistake. bigfan did not know enya had an idol, the only ones who knew were narhwlas and I. As if we'd ever tell bigfan our main plans after knowing how awful he is at these games. If nothing else I was happy to get the headache out of the game. You could never believe anything he said
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Post by austin on Jun 28, 2020 0:10:54 GMT -5
Actually I agree with everything but what happened with enya was he said MY name to go home right before merge but I won piano tiles and was immune. The mayman thing we got over immediately, but if you say my name, you go home (or I do LOL). So then when the Returnee twist happened (which I had no idea was coming) I was screwed because I just voted enya out. So I don’t regret being mad he was gunning for me first. I had no choice. Narwhals was too but it didn’t bother me because his logic made more sense than enya who I really thought was my ride or ride, so I tried to show him I would be honest with him, and work with him until the end. But he didn’t agree. I want to clear up that I never said your name. I gave pros and cons of getting rid of you and narwhals to brayden and SHOOTER did that stupid A thing. I wasn't attempting this massive blindside or anything of the like, merely trying to show brayden that I wanted to work with him and appear like a pair to him by being impartial to getting rid of you or narwhals. I thought Thursday night when I asked you said you did say my name? At FTC? That was my #1 question.
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Post by austin on Jun 28, 2020 0:11:48 GMT -5
I wrote it to you in my long message about knowing you were coming for me, and why we needed to band together and take enya out with them. That was my entire reason for voting out enya lol those long messages were legendary lol, I can remember telling enya & McSteamy about them. I think McSteamy really wanted to get one too 😂 But now it makes sense why enya was pushing for zebra instead of you (on the vote you left). And I didn’t believe much of it I’m too much lol. Anyway I’m glad to have played with you! I wish you hadn’t said my name til you saw the immunity results lol we probably could have had a bromance!!!
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Post by mcsteamy on Jun 28, 2020 0:12:54 GMT -5
bigfan did not know enya had an idol, the only ones who knew were narhwlas and I. As if we'd ever tell bigfan our main plans after knowing how awful he is at these games. If nothing else I was happy to get the headache out of the game. You could never believe anything he said I mean the coven and bigfan "working" is basically the running gag of the whole Pulse Surivor history. Ever since that betrayal (which made literally no sense) back in Heroes v Villains we kinda decided not to trust him like, ever.
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Post by Enyasurvivor on Jun 28, 2020 0:14:23 GMT -5
I'm also still unclear if bigfan knew I had an idol or not. I know I only told mcsteamy and narwhals about it, but I don't know who they told
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Post by austin on Jun 28, 2020 0:16:26 GMT -5
You won so whatever you did worked and whatever I did didn’t lol but I just wanted you to tell me if you were saying my name so we were on same page. That was all. But we got over it all it’s water under the bridge and was after bigfan left IMO. But I was surprised to hear you say you would have been Open to voting me that early when I thought we were F2 allies.
But your game was really good, I saw even more in the green room that was awesome
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Post by mcsteamy on Jun 28, 2020 0:47:56 GMT -5
You won so whatever you did worked and whatever I did didn’t lol but I just wanted you to tell me if you were saying my name so we were on same page. That was all. But we got over it all it’s water under the bridge and was after bigfan left IMO. But I was surprised to hear you say you would have been Open to voting me that early when I thought we were F2 allies. But your game was really good, I saw even more in the green room that was awesome Lol, enya saying your name meant s**t in the end. Did he say it? Idk, did it change the overall narrative of victim to victor of Enya? It did not. He really outsmarted, outplayed and outslayed you. End of discussion. On another note, why did u even vote for enya when you thought he was your "F2" it just doesn't add up and you once again bringing up the fact he "brought your name" up for elimination isn't compared to actually voting him off premerge. Stop giving him s**t for that when YOU ACTUALLY VOTED FOR HIM AND GOT HIM VOTED OFF for a hot minute. I think that nullifes the fact he "brought up your name" you actually got to vote him off. Leave him the f**k alone with that topic. You voting him off was the ONLY reason I ever wanted you gone I was acting out of anger because of you treated my friend and then run off to be a victim. Fuck off.
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Post by austin on Jun 28, 2020 6:51:17 GMT -5
You won so whatever you did worked and whatever I did didn’t lol but I just wanted you to tell me if you were saying my name so we were on same page. That was all. But we got over it all it’s water under the bridge and was after bigfan left IMO. But I was surprised to hear you say you would have been Open to voting me that early when I thought we were F2 allies. But your game was really good, I saw even more in the green room that was awesome Lol, enya saying your name meant s**t in the end. Did he say it? Idk, did it change the overall narrative of victim to victor of Enya? It did not. He really outsmarted, outplayed and outslayed you. End of discussion. On another note, why did u even vote for enya when you thought he was your "F2" it just doesn't add up and you once again bringing up the fact he "brought your name" up for elimination isn't compared to actually voting him off premerge. Stop giving him s**t for that when YOU ACTUALLY VOTED FOR HIM AND GOT HIM VOTED OFF for a hot minute. I think that nullifes the fact he "brought up your name" you actually got to vote him off. Leave him the f**k alone with that topic. You voting him off was the ONLY reason I ever wanted you gone I was acting out of anger because of you treated my friend and then run off to be a victim. f**k off. I’m not giving enya s**t at all, I love him and am very happy for him - I was never mad he voted me out or blamed him for anything that happened between us upon his return. 100%. I was just saying I asked at FTC if I was an idiot for voting him or if he really was considering voting me, and he said the latter. I honestly think me and enya are cool - and said he outplayed outslayed whatever by saying whatever he did worked and whatever I did didn’t - I’m in great spirits bro. It’s not bitterness, at all.
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Post by Zeebz on Jun 28, 2020 7:43:13 GMT -5
sry not sry for this long-ass quote but quoting for emphasis for how much I appreciate these words
Honestly, that fact had never crossed my mind, but it is indeed an apt username! Thanks, Nat Geo documentary that was on
<3 at this praise and you being able to recap my game better than I ever could. The social point, especially. I was a little disheartened that everyone just assumed I did nothing, so thanks for this! It’s a nice cap for my Survivor career and I’m considering this analysis + my third appearance in the F3 as a total win.
(Although yeah, I should’ve been more in your face with the fact I was making moves. Ain’t mad at it though; the top three were all solid and Enya deserves!)
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Post by Enyasurvivor on Jun 28, 2020 12:33:09 GMT -5
- enya: 8.5 Now, obviously you won so that's more than enough to warrant ignoring this and blasting 'Shawty Is a Ten' on repeat for eternity! But, just as an objective formality, I have to give an 8 for reasons I mentioned shortly after the finale. The fallout with austin was a mess, then once you got voted back in it was a constant struggle to stay in. You and Nar both had major trust issues with almost everyone save for mcsteamy (who left), so a lot of times you got in your own way...like voting out austin bc you thought Max was pulling your leg. I still don't know what made you think that, to this day. Oh, not fully leaning in to a relationship with D12. That would have been smooth sailing too. But in retrospect it is all for the best as D12 wasn't seeing the full picture either and I don't think he ever really had your best interests in mind. One thing you did have over Narwhals was your willingness to at least go out and try to find a place to land, and you didn't care who it was with just as long as you stuck that landing. Narwhals' presence was a safety blanket that I think kept you from fully utilizing your own intuitive skill, but once he left you had no choice but to figure out the lay of the land on your own. While Zeebz gets major credit for taking a gamble on you, you deserve equal credit for taking a gamble on him (and Brayden). You could have chosen to be team D12 but your instincts were strong enough to perceive that Zeebz was presenting the more genuine offer, and from that point on it was redemption arc. I'm so glad you took my old advice to heart - one can only hope I do myself if I ever play again lmao I cannot stop talking about your tribal 1.0 and 2.0 work. It was truly a work of art. The way you took out all those winners/runners-up with not one visible drop of blood on your hands > > > I'm actually surprised I got as high of a score as I did. I'm not one of those people that thinks the winner of every season is automatically the one that played the best game. I'm more of the mind that "best game" and "winning game" are two different categories. I would honestly place myself as a high-entertainment value but lower-tier winner similar to Adam from MvX because while our wins were fun to watch, we got there moreso because of the mistakes of others than our own control. Now it could be argued that my social game caused those mistakes and decisions to occur, but that's a bit more murky of an argument. Overall though, you can't deny my insane pre-merge skills where I knocked off Liucci, Stacey, and anna at my first 3 tribals without anyone even realizing. EDIT: I also think you're overselling D12 as well. From your vantage point, it's easier to see that he was willing to go far with me and narwhals, but if you read his PMs to me, he only messaged me when he needed something and made it painfully obvious that he was attempting to use me as a chess piece. He messages always had an air of desperation in them that just turned me off from trusting him completely. While me and narwhals had pretty dry convos (only talked game), it still felt more genuine and logical than whatever D12 would tell me.
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Post by Mayman on Jun 28, 2020 17:45:04 GMT -5
But yeah, my main weakness is my attitude but you know If u can't handle the steams. You better go away, there's people like the coven (<3) and Gabe and mayman(finally got the name.right) who can get it and they will get to know how amazing of a friend I am. C ya. I wish we had more time to play together! You were so fun to play with for that short period of time
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Post by Kanenrá:ke on Jun 29, 2020 0:31:06 GMT -5
Overall though, you can't deny my insane pre-merge skills where I knocked off Liucci, Stacey, and anna at my first 3 tribals without anyone even realizing. Boo you!! haha For real though congrats and welcome to the winner's club! I was rooting for you once I seen how you took me out! Glad you were able to snake your way to the end! :)
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Post by bigfan101 on Jun 29, 2020 5:06:00 GMT -5
I'm also still unclear if bigfan knew I had an idol or not. I know I only told mcsteamy and narwhals about it, but I don't know who they told I knew you had an idol. But what I was incorrect is I believed Narwhals when he said you gave him yours the tribal before I was eliminated, And Austin, i think mcsteamy is right. Before you voted me out, i literally told you I could never vote you out. And i didn’t. I was told not to put you in the group of six so I didn’t. I think that was my biggest blunder. As Cynthia said, I’m either too trustworthy or non trustworthy enough. But i don’t think it was a smart move to vote out someone who never was going to vote out you.
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