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Post by .indulgecountry on Jul 4, 2020 16:25:04 GMT -5
There wasn't any fiddle in the original version, so that's the only really noticeable difference (and you can tell if you listen for that). They swapped out Hannah's harmony vocals for Natalie's, but it isn't something that really changes the song since the lead vocal was left alone. I think "Town" could've been a hit possibly, but idk the way "Heels" flopped reminded me of how most new female acts used to do in the past decade where they score a big hit and then radio just collectively opts out of giving them another hit on the back of it and just continues playing the proven hit. "Buy My Own Drinks" didn't have a ton of recurrent play, but it was at least somewhat recognizable for the listeners, so most stations probably just reached for it instead. In other words, I get the feeling anything they put out would've struggled to take off. It feels like there's been enough time now since that single + the news of the member change is an uptick in interest in them, so maybe "Rich" is able to do something here. I don't agree that whatever they would have released radio would have failed, as looking back "Head Over Heels" doesn't stand out at all to my ears and there was pretty much no buzz from the song and radio honestly let it climb higher than what it deserved. Where as this song and to a lesser extent "I Am Too" seemed to have a bit more buzz than "Head Over Heels". I get that on paper "Heels" was the right choice as it was uptempo and sounded similar to "Buy My Own Drinks", but ever since being released around a year ago, "Heels" has never generated much of any buzz.I genuinely think country radio likes Runaway June a lot more than most female acts (they are the only female act I can think of that had a hit with a song that was a rather low-key event in "Buy My Own Drinks" and in general while not having a ton of success they have seen more success with country radio than say Lindsay Ell, Raelynn, Danielle Bradbery, etc.) just that "Head Over Heels" probably had some of the least amount of buzz I have seen in a radio act, it honestly reminded me of the debut single LANco "Long Live Tonight" where country radio likes the act a lot but the sales and buzz are pretty much so non existent that country radio has no choice but to stall it out outside the Top 30. If "We Were Rich" can generate a decent amount of buzz and sales like "Buy My Own Drinks" I definitely do think it will succeed because I do think country radio really likes Runaway June Lol, nah, this is just not true at all. The song failed so its easy to look back now and think "oh, this was obviously the wrong choice because it flopped," but at the time it was chosen? Not the case. sabre14 works in radio and this was what he posted immediately after the single choice was announced last fall: I updated the OP, CoJoFan . I know others were hoping for “I Am Too” or “We Were Rich” (my personal favorite), I think this is absolutely the right choice for the next single. Yeah, it’s the most radio friendly pick but it’s not as if it’s generic or upbeat fodder — it has a superb melody and the hook is clever and memorable. Those two aspects alone made it a winner for radio. It was the song radio was clamoring for.And then I can quote this post of your own stating that it was off to an encouraging start by being their most added song to date: "Head Over Heels" went for adds today and got 38 adds, 39 total stations and third most added song this week. Also "Head Over Heels" is officially Runaway June most added song on add date so far in their career ("Lipstick" had 35 total stations, "Wild West had 28, and "Buy My Own Drinks" had 29) so a very encouraging start fot this song. Obviously, things change, but upon selection and impact "Head Over Heels" was looking like the follow-up hit that they needed and that radio wanted. Lauren Alaina had a big week of adds when "Next Boyfriend" first impacted, for instance, and then the song still totally bombed. Her current single also started with a lot of adds but radio has buried it in overnight spins, and it's taken over half a year for it to just scrape the top 40 so far. Mickey Guyton broke a record with her debut single's impact date and we see how that panned out for her. Sometimes a song radio is 'excited' about initially winds up being a temporary blip because of other factors like how clogged the charts are and how playlisting works in order to minimize the amount of females get played. So far their sales/streams have been pretty abysmal regardless of what they have out at radio (sadly), so yes, radio seems to be giving them the time of day more than the general public has so I agree with that part. "I Am Too" and "We Were Rich" do have more streams than the other album tracks (they are still not that impressive of totals however), but neither had any significant buzz to them that suggested the label would've wanted to pick either as a single after the album release. I feel like the buzz we're seeing now is 100% because of the narrative of them switching band members and getting back in the press that way. "We Were Rich" is a gorgeous song and I'm sure many in radio would love to play it because of its quality, but I don't think for a second it would've gotten over 30 adds if they had just quietly released this after "Heels" flopped. And, if Hannah hadn't left the band, there's a chance the label might still be propping that single up right now honestly. It was struggling to gain traction, but the label probably could've sunk several more months into pushing it into the 30s on the charts, and I think one of their main reasons for giving up just because Hannah wanted to leave and it would've been pointless to continue its chart run at that point when they had things in motion to replace her.
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Post by raylatch98 on Jul 4, 2020 16:47:34 GMT -5
I don't agree that whatever they would have released radio would have failed, as looking back "Head Over Heels" doesn't stand out at all to my ears and there was pretty much no buzz from the song and radio honestly let it climb higher than what it deserved. Where as this song and to a lesser extent "I Am Too" seemed to have a bit more buzz than "Head Over Heels". I get that on paper "Heels" was the right choice as it was uptempo and sounded similar to "Buy My Own Drinks", but ever since being released around a year ago, "Heels" has never generated much of any buzz.I genuinely think country radio likes Runaway June a lot more than most female acts (they are the only female act I can think of that had a hit with a song that was a rather low-key event in "Buy My Own Drinks" and in general while not having a ton of success they have seen more success with country radio than say Lindsay Ell, Raelynn, Danielle Bradbery, etc.) just that "Head Over Heels" probably had some of the least amount of buzz I have seen in a radio act, it honestly reminded me of the debut single LANco "Long Live Tonight" where country radio likes the act a lot but the sales and buzz are pretty much so non existent that country radio has no choice but to stall it out outside the Top 30. If "We Were Rich" can generate a decent amount of buzz and sales like "Buy My Own Drinks" I definitely do think it will succeed because I do think country radio really likes Runaway June Lol, nah, this is just not true at all. The song failed so its easy to look back now and think "oh, this was obviously the wrong choice because it flopped," but at the time it was chosen? Not the case. sabre14 works in radio and this was what he posted immediately after the single choice was announced last fall: I updated the OP, CoJoFan . I know others were hoping for “I Am Too” or “We Were Rich” (my personal favorite), I think this is absolutely the right choice for the next single. Yeah, it’s the most radio friendly pick but it’s not as if it’s generic or upbeat fodder — it has a superb melody and the hook is clever and memorable. Those two aspects alone made it a winner for radio. It was the song radio was clamoring for.And then I can quote this post of your own stating that it was off to an encouraging start by being their most added song to date: "Head Over Heels" went for adds today and got 38 adds, 39 total stations and third most added song this week. Also "Head Over Heels" is officially Runaway June most added song on add date so far in their career ("Lipstick" had 35 total stations, "Wild West had 28, and "Buy My Own Drinks" had 29) so a very encouraging start fot this song. Obviously, things change, but upon selection and impact "Head Over Heels" was looking like the follow-up hit that they needed and that radio wanted. Lauren Alaina had a big week of adds when "Next Boyfriend" first impacted, for instance, and then the song still totally bombed. Her current single also started with a lot of adds but radio has buried it in overnight spins, and it's taken over half a year for it to just scrape the top 40 so far. Mickey Guyton broke a record with her debut single's impact date and we see how that panned out for her. Sometimes a song radio is 'excited' about initially winds up being a temporary blip because of other factors like how clogged the charts are and how playlisting works in order to minimize the amount of females get played. So far their sales/streams have been pretty abysmal regardless of what they have out at radio (sadly), so yes, radio seems to be giving them the time of day more than the general public has so I agree with that part. "I Am Too" and "We Were Rich" do have more streams than the other album tracks (they are still not that impressive of totals however), but neither had any significant buzz to them that suggested the label would've wanted to pick either as a single after the album release. I feel like the buzz we're seeing now is 100% because of the narrative of them switching band members and getting back in the press that way. "We Were Rich" is a gorgeous song and I'm sure many in radio would love to play it because of its quality, but I don't think for a second it would've gotten over 30 adds if they had just quietly released this after "Heels" flopped. And, if Hannah hadn't left the band, there's a chance the label might still be propping that single up right now honestly. It was struggling to gain traction, but the label probably could've sunk several more months into pushing it into the 30s on the charts, and I think one of their main reasons for giving up just because Hannah wanted to leave and it would've been pointless to continue its chart run at that point when they had things in motion to replace her. Fair enough, I guess you are overall right. I will say in my defense because I do feel like I am being overall dismissed here for my view (or in the case of you pulling up a past post of mine makes me look like I have a case of revisionist history which there is nothing wrong with since what I thought on that day can change over time) by January of Feburary I was starting to feel less optimistic even if my posts didn't necessarily reflect that. I will say in regards to Lauren Alaina and "Next Boyfriend", that is a song that I still think to this day just got completely unlucky with a brutal amount of releases in late 2015 and early 2016 that pretty much doomed it and many more songs during that timeframe and as for her current single it still is picking up adds and has had strong streaming unlike "Heels" but that is besides the point and Lauren despite her overall lack of success is an act country radio still likes more than most females. If my post was implying or said that those songs had a significant more amount of streams than that was not what I meant. I will say in regards to "We Were Rick" that was the one song they performed on GMA when the album was dropped instead of "Heels". Also I respectfully disagree that even if Hannah did not leave the band that "Heels" would not have been dropped instead of this, because even before it was announced that she left that song was pretty much not moving at all and was looking like it was going to die out in the 30s and 40s on the chart regardless had they kept with it. But clearly you seem to much more about this than I do so I will promptly shut up about this after this post.
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Post by .indulgecountry on Jul 4, 2020 17:12:46 GMT -5
Lol, nah, this is just not true at all. The song failed so its easy to look back now and think "oh, this was obviously the wrong choice because it flopped," but at the time it was chosen? Not the case. sabre14 works in radio and this was what he posted immediately after the single choice was announced last fall: And then I can quote this post of your own stating that it was off to an encouraging start by being their most added song to date: Obviously, things change, but upon selection and impact "Head Over Heels" was looking like the follow-up hit that they needed and that radio wanted. Lauren Alaina had a big week of adds when "Next Boyfriend" first impacted, for instance, and then the song still totally bombed. Her current single also started with a lot of adds but radio has buried it in overnight spins, and it's taken over half a year for it to just scrape the top 40 so far. Mickey Guyton broke a record with her debut single's impact date and we see how that panned out for her. Sometimes a song radio is 'excited' about initially winds up being a temporary blip because of other factors like how clogged the charts are and how playlisting works in order to minimize the amount of females get played. So far their sales/streams have been pretty abysmal regardless of what they have out at radio (sadly), so yes, radio seems to be giving them the time of day more than the general public has so I agree with that part. "I Am Too" and "We Were Rich" do have more streams than the other album tracks (they are still not that impressive of totals however), but neither had any significant buzz to them that suggested the label would've wanted to pick either as a single after the album release. I feel like the buzz we're seeing now is 100% because of the narrative of them switching band members and getting back in the press that way. "We Were Rich" is a gorgeous song and I'm sure many in radio would love to play it because of its quality, but I don't think for a second it would've gotten over 30 adds if they had just quietly released this after "Heels" flopped. And, if Hannah hadn't left the band, there's a chance the label might still be propping that single up right now honestly. It was struggling to gain traction, but the label probably could've sunk several more months into pushing it into the 30s on the charts, and I think one of their main reasons for giving up just because Hannah wanted to leave and it would've been pointless to continue its chart run at that point when they had things in motion to replace her. Fair enough, I guess you are overall right. I will say in my defense because I do feel like I am being overall dismissed here for my view (or in the case of you pulling up a past post of mine makes me look like I have a case of revisionist history which there is nothing wrong with since what I thought on that day can change over time) by January of Feburary I was starting to feel less optimistic even if my posts didn't necessarily reflect that. I will say in regards to Lauren Alaina and "Next Boyfriend", that is a song that I still think to this day just got completely unlucky with a brutal amount of releases in late 2015 and early 2016 that pretty much doomed it and many more songs during that timeframe and as for her current single it still is picking up adds and has had strong streaming unlike "Heels" but that is besides the point and Lauren despite her overall lack of success is an act country radio still likes more than most females. If my post was implying or said that those songs had a significant more amount of streams than that was not what I meant. I will say in regards to "We Were Rick" that was the one song they performed on GMA when the album was dropped instead of "Heels". Also I respectfully disagree that even if Hannah did not leave the band that "Heels" would not have been dropped instead of this, because even before it was announced that she left that song was pretty much not moving at all and was looking like it was going to die out in the 30s and 40s on the chart regardless had they kept with it. But clearly you seem to much more about this than I do so I will promptly shut up about this after this post. 1) Your initial post responding to me was saying that there was never any buzz for "Head Over Heels" and it's easy to say that now when we know that it flopped, but when it was initially selected as a single, there was indeed some "buzz." And my quoting your post was to show that the song pulled in a lot of adds for them and it was just ironic that you were the one who posted it (I would've quoted anyone saying that information, it just happened it was you). It doesn't always mean anything, but radio seemed to be a fan of "Heels" at first based on someone in radio's testimony that they were excited about it + the solid adds date. 2) Not saying you were referring to them having more buzz because of significant streaming numbers, but I don't know how else you determined that there was apparently more buzz for this song or "I Am Too" then? There was buzz for the songs on Pulse, like there was from "Heels" as well, but I saw nothing that suggested radio or the minimal response from the GP wanted either of those as a single over "Heels." Performing the song on GMA didn't translate to great hype for "We Were Rich" or anything, and it seems like that's all you're really going off of. 3) The song was doing fine at radio for awhile, and then it just kinda slowed down and started to struggle more than it looked like it should have based on the first few months of its run. Things were probably going on behind the scenes as far as Hannah leaving + Natalie replacing her for several months before the announcement was made, especially since we saw that Natalie came in immediately. The label probably propped the song up long enough that they could get their ducks in order to be able to seamlessly announce the departure of Hannah while also announcing Natalie replacing her right away, but they definitely knew that Hannah wanted out several months before "Heels" was pulled and I think that 100% affected their investment in the single. I don't know this for certain and while it wasn't looking like a major hit, I think it probably could've limped into the vicinity of where "Wild West" peaked at least if the label kept promoting it -- the single came out last fall, so it wasn't like the song was even old by country chart standards. I think the label figured it would be best to start fresh, which is why Hanna leaving-Natalie joining-We Were Rich being re-recorded and issued as their next single happened all back-to-back-to-back.
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Post by sabre14 on Jul 4, 2020 22:22:47 GMT -5
This in no way should be foreshadowing this song’s potential radio success because there’s still a chance this doesn’t become a hit (even though it looks promising), but our station added “We Were Rich” on impact day.
For reference, “Lipstick” and “Buy My Own Drinks” were the only Runaway June singles added by our station and both of those weren’t added until the top 30...I was giddy for sure lol.
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Post by Kanenrá:ke on Jul 5, 2020 23:42:40 GMT -5
3) The song was doing fine at radio for awhile, and then it just kinda slowed down and started to struggle more than it looked like it should have based on the first few months of its run. Things were probably going on behind the scenes as far as Hannah leaving + Natalie replacing her for several months before the announcement was made, especially since we saw that Natalie came in immediately. The label probably propped the song up long enough that they could get their ducks in order to be able to seamlessly announce the departure of Hannah while also announcing Natalie replacing her right away, but they definitely knew that Hannah wanted out several months before "Heels" was pulled and I think that 100% affected their investment in the single. I don't know this for certain and while it wasn't looking like a major hit, I think it probably could've limped into the vicinity of where "Wild West" peaked at least if the label kept promoting it -- the single came out last fall, so it wasn't like the song was even old by country chart standards. I think the label figured it would be best to start fresh, which is why Hanna leaving-Natalie joining-We Were Rich being re-recorded and issued as their next single happened all back-to-back-to-back. Yes Hannah leaving was more than likely in the works for a while, makes a ton of sense to me that they'd want to send something new, rather than keep pushing "Head Over Heels" even if they had decided to redo the song like they ended up with "We Were Rich". Something fresh to go with the refreshed lineup. I think had Hannah stayed with the group they would've pushed HOH longer and probably even harder. I'm sure whenever Hannah made the choice to leave the label probably didn't know wether to keep pushing or drop the single and kept it afloat until they were ready.
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Post by fearlessarrow on Jul 6, 2020 22:23:38 GMT -5
Debuts at #58 on Billboard :)
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Post by .indulgecountry on Jul 7, 2020 0:09:07 GMT -5
This having a healthy debut on the chart only a week after going for adds has me giddy for this one. It's way too early to predict this one goes the distance and becomes a hit for them, but it is lovely to see many stations taking to it immediately!
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Post by raylatch98 on Jul 13, 2020 15:48:43 GMT -5
15 more adds for "We Were Rich" (23 in total since they went for adds 2 weeks ago) this week as this song got the most adds this week on Mediabase of all the songs not going for adds. Also this is their only single to be in the Top 10 most added 2 weeks in a row right after add date. Very great start for this one
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Post by bigd79 on Jul 16, 2020 21:32:00 GMT -5
Lyric video:
hopefully they have an actual music video in the works!
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Post by fearlessarrow on Jul 19, 2020 20:12:16 GMT -5
Officially debuts on Mediabase at #50 this week!
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Post by raylatch98 on Jul 19, 2020 20:26:38 GMT -5
Also has the 3rd highest bullet of all the songs below the Top 20 at 95 spins gained this week. I don't even think "Buy My Own Drinks" had this good of a start.
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Post by sabre14 on Jul 19, 2020 20:58:06 GMT -5
This is officially the fastest-rising single of their career — and the best reaction for one of their singles from radio programmers. Off to a great start and I couldn’t be happier for them.
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Post by jab820 on Jul 20, 2020 15:29:09 GMT -5
Let this be their first #1! It could really do it. Ecstatic it's catching on so fast!
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Post by HeyHeyHey on Jul 20, 2020 15:33:21 GMT -5
This song is not only really good but it is really good in a relatable way. I could see it being really big for them!
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Post by CoJoFan on Jul 21, 2020 9:36:29 GMT -5
I just want to see another all female group succeed. We really haven’t had one since SHeDAISY. Then the Dixie Chicks (now known as The Chicks) before them.
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Post by CoJoFan on Jul 21, 2020 12:46:53 GMT -5
Sorry for the double post but I also have to add this is right up there with “Wild West” as one of their best single releases. Second top 10 and possible #1 with this one is my prediction.
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Post by sabre14 on Jul 27, 2020 14:27:35 GMT -5
HDD showing 17 more adds for “We Were Rich” this week. 76 total adds so far.
I’m going to go ahead and predict this one will be Runaway June’s most successful single. The gains are promising and it’s already inside the top 50 after four weeks. Radio seems to be embracing it.
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Post by austin on Jul 27, 2020 14:29:13 GMT -5
I hope so! This is their first truly great single.
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Post by bboat11 on Jul 29, 2020 12:33:17 GMT -5
I hope so! This is their first truly great single.
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Post by .indulgecountry on Aug 31, 2020 22:11:11 GMT -5
I'm happy that radio stations here have jumped on this one early. I heard it like 4 times in the past few days while out and about, and they were all during the day and evening, not like 2am spins, lol.
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Post by Kanenrá:ke on Aug 31, 2020 22:17:38 GMT -5
I had this playing while driving with a friend who doesn't like country all that much and he commented how cute the song was. I think this one works so well because it's very relatable to a wide audience. I really hope sales will kick in for this one.
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Post by daddy on Sept 3, 2020 13:46:32 GMT -5
This song is so good! Hope it does well for them!
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Post by raylatch98 on Sept 28, 2020 20:42:23 GMT -5
I am shocked how this song is not connecting well on pretty much any scale besides radio and even then this song has been pretty lukewarm since hitting the Top 50 on Mediabase (#40 on Mediabase and #46 on Billboard this week). But the sales are shit like their past single and the streaming at least on YouTube is pretty terrible. I am not worried about this songs longevity on the chart because it has only been a few months since charting but it is kind of sad that besides "Buy My Own Drinks" and "Wild West" none of their singles have connected even slightly sales wise and I hope whenever they release a new lead single whenever this is done climbing they finally have a song that connects as it is quite clear to me country radio is really on board with Runaway June but the general public not at all.
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Post by lipe on Sept 28, 2020 21:23:48 GMT -5
I am shocked how this song is not connecting well on pretty much any scale besides radio and even then this song has been pretty lukewarm since hitting the Top 50 on Mediabase (#40 on Mediabase and #46 on Billboard this week). But the sales are s**t like their past single and the streaming at least on YouTube is pretty terrible. I am not worried about this songs longevity on the chart because it has only been a few months since charting but it is kind of sad that besides "Buy My Own Drinks" and "Wild West" none of their singles have connected even slightly sales wise and I hope whenever they release a new lead single whenever this is done climbing they finally have a song that connects as it is quite clear to me country radio is really on board with Runaway June but the general public not at all. Unfortunately, "Buy My Own Drinks" didn't connect at all. Sales were always very low for how it was doing on radio, and we can see that by the #17 peak on Hot Country Songs despite making it to #8 on country radio. I hope they can build a fan base to have their back and that people consume their music, but so far all singles have been non-eventful outside country radio.
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Post by bdrm87 on Sept 28, 2020 21:44:56 GMT -5
I am shocked how this song is not connecting well on pretty much any scale besides radio and even then this song has been pretty lukewarm since hitting the Top 50 on Mediabase (#40 on Mediabase and #46 on Billboard this week). But the sales are s**t like their past single and the streaming at least on YouTube is pretty terrible. I am not worried about this songs longevity on the chart because it has only been a few months since charting but it is kind of sad that besides "Buy My Own Drinks" and "Wild West" none of their singles have connected even slightly sales wise and I hope whenever they release a new lead single whenever this is done climbing they finally have a song that connects as it is quite clear to me country radio is really on board with Runaway June but the general public not at all. Unfortunately, "Buy My Own Drinks" didn't connect at all. Sales were always very low for how it was doing on radio, and we can see that by the #17 peak on Hot Country Songs despite making it to #8 on country radio. I hope they can build a fan base to have their back and that people consume their music, but so far all singles have been non-eventful outside country radio. There just seems to be no public interest in them for some reason. The sales and streaming for all their singles have been terrible, and no one bought their album either. I thought this one might be the one to break through, but so far that doesn’t seem to be the case.
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Post by bigfan101 on Oct 7, 2020 13:11:46 GMT -5
Wow, what a gorgeous video.
I'm hoping this becomes like Die From A Broken Heart...we thought it wasn't going to make it, and then suddenly radio reealized how amazing it is and just started playing the heck out of it.
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Post by raylatch98 on Oct 7, 2020 14:08:23 GMT -5
Wow, what a gorgeous video. I'm hoping this becomes like Die From A Broken Heart...we thought it wasn't going to make it, and then suddenly radio realized how amazing it is and just started playing the heck out of it. But unlike "Die From A Broken Heart" this song is not connecting well with the general public which was a big incentive for why "Die From A Broken Heart" was able to begin taking off once it hit the Top 30/40 (once the radio testing came through and it was so positive, it sealed the deal on "Die From A Broken Heart" hitting #1). With "We Were Rich" I do think it is a high quality single, but this song is definitely one that is probably gonna be relying a lot more on radio testing to succeed than most as it is not connecting well at all with people unfortunately given the total lack of success on YouTube for example. Like until this song starts making some strides in terms of sales and streams I am going to remain hesitant about how well it will do, I can see it doing as well as "Somebody Like That" is doing for Tenille Arts but that right now is the most upside I have for this song.
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bigranger
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Lost sleep but I found a tune stuck inside my head
Joined: December 2017
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Post by bigranger on Oct 7, 2020 23:53:27 GMT -5
music video
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.indulgecountry
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Best Country Poster 2011, 2017, & 2018
"You left a mark on my face // And brought a dozen red flags in a vase"
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Post by .indulgecountry on Oct 8, 2020 6:27:45 GMT -5
They don't have many, but this is one of their best videos. I think "Wild West" may still be my favorite, especially because of the theme, but this one is also a total home run.
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