Billboard Hot 100: 06/27/2020

[GP]

Not all of this M5 vs Cardi thing

It's pretty simple, M5 have always been popular and chose the rapper with the most buzz at the moment with a catchy mega radio-friendly song.

Kind of the perfect formula for a huge single honestly.

[Deleted]

Jun 14, 2020 5:38:59 GMT -5 GP said:

Not all of this M5 vs Cardi thing

It's pretty simple, M5 have always been popular and chose the rapper with the most buzz at the moment with a catchy mega radio-friendly song.

Kind of the perfect formula for a huge single honestly.

took the words straight from my mouth. i don't know why this is a hard thing to grasp lol

[thelegends]

Unpopular Opinion : Cardi B is a trash rapper, but her influence is good. Without her, we wouldn’t have had Doja Cat, Megan Thee Stallion, and Saweetie getting hits. She broke the Nicki Minaj monopoly of female rap.

[kierz7]

Jun 14, 2020 6:12:06 GMT -5 Codex said:

Jun 14, 2020 5:56:08 GMT -5 thelegends said:

Unpopular Opinion : Cardi B is a trash rapper, but her influence is good. Without her, we wouldn’t have had Doja Cat, Megan Thee Stallion, and Saweetie getting hits. She broke the Nicki Minaj monopoly of female rap.

I completely agree, Iggy broke the mold with her #1 smash and since then, other female rappers like Lizzo, Cardi, Doja and Meghan have been shining. I’m hoping at least one of them manage a second successful era though, because Nicki needs another girl on her level.

I agree.

Since Iggy Azelea’s debut, four Female rappers have gone on to score number one hits as lead artists, some even solo, and in their debut eras at that.

Since Cardi B, three Female rappers have done so and in such close proximity also. The “Bodak Yellow” hitmaker’s impact is certainly palpable.

I’m hoping other Female rappers follow suit as the decade progresses, some sooner than others. 💃🏿

[imbondz]

Jun 14, 2020 5:38:59 GMT -5 GP said:

Not all of this M5 vs Cardi thing

It's pretty simple, M5 have always been popular and chose the rapper with the most buzz at the moment with a catchy mega radio-friendly song.

Kind of the perfect formula for a huge single honestly.

Totally agree. M5 have had a career where they only faltered with one album imo. They worked with one of the hottest rappers at the time to record Girls Like You, which also had a very ‘catchy’ fun video that people watched over and over.

[Gary]

Maroon 5 have been pretty adept at keeping up with music trends period. Been charting since 2003. Only a handful of the top artists from 2003 still chart with any regularity.

[imbondz]

I don’t agree at all that Iggy opened doors to any female rappers. She piggy backed off of the female rappers that came before her. Missy Elliot, Lil Kim, Salt n Pepa, Nikki Minaj, Eve, Lauren Hill, Da Brat...so many others.

The female rappers today would still be here with or without Iggys 1 year of relevance.

[annoymous1]

Remy found the keys Nicki hid and gave them to Cardi so she unlocked the door and kept it open ever since and since it's been open even Nicki got herself a #1.

[wavey.]

Iggs could've still been on a major label. They probably didn't know what to do after "Fancy" and "Black Widow" blew up. Imo, she could've been featured more, but her lashing back and forth didn't help either?

[kierz7]

Jun 14, 2020 7:57:01 GMT -5 imbondz said:

I don’t agree at all that Iggy opened doors to any female rappers. She piggy backed off of the female rappers that came before her. Missy Elliot, Lil Kim, Salt n Pepa, Nikki Minaj, Eve, Lauren Hill, Da Brat...so many others.

The female rappers today would still be here with or without Iggys 1 year of relevance.

That user just used Iggy Azelea as an example to indirectly ‘shade’ Cardi B. 💀

There isn’t a single factor within Azelea’s success that shows she opened the door for absolutely any Female rapper, and even so in the 2010’s climate.

If you’re delusional enough to argue that she did so and helped “break the mold” from a commercial perspective then go ahead.

Sonically? No.
Musically? No.
Artistically? No.

[imbondz]

Jun 14, 2020 8:13:05 GMT -5 kierz7 said:

Jun 14, 2020 7:57:01 GMT -5 imbondz said:

I don’t agree at all that Iggy opened doors to any female rappers. She piggy backed off of the female rappers that came before her. Missy Elliot, Lil Kim, Salt n Pepa, Nikki Minaj, Eve, Lauren Hill, Da Brat...so many others.

The female rappers today would still be here with or without Iggys 1 year of relevance.

That user just used Iggy Azelea as an example to ‘shade’ Cardi B. 💀

There isn’t a single factor within Azelea’s success that shows she opened the door for absolutely any Female rapper, and even so in the 2010’s climate.

If you’re delusional enough to argue that she did so from a commercial perspective then go ahead.

Sonically? No.
Musically? No.
Artistically? No.

Gotcha. I didn’t catch that it was just a shade, but totally agree with you.

[kierz7]

Jun 14, 2020 8:09:18 GMT -5 wavey. said:

Iggs could've still been on a major label. They probably didn't know what to do after "Fancy" and "Black Widow" blew up. Imo, she could've been featured more, but her lashing back and forth didn't help either?

All in all, (if it wasn’t for her past social media controversy) she could’ve had a career as a crossover Pop/Rapper in the vein of ‘Flo Rida’ and ‘Pitbull’ or become a ‘Fergie’-lite of sorts.

She may not have had much career longevity, but she could’ve lasted several more hit singles and potential number ones but just not be taken seriously as an albums artist.

Regardless, she would’ve cemented herself as a 2010’s icon to a degree.

The backlash, and her tone-deaf responses to it most of the time, completely ruined any chance of a comeback especially where radio was concerned.

Now in the Streaming era, where most success is totally in the hands of the consumer and their streams, she could be revived if she scores a viral hit but I highly doubt it.

[dremolus - solarpunk]

Jun 14, 2020 8:26:54 GMT -5 kierz7 said:

Jun 14, 2020 8:09:18 GMT -5 wavey. said:

Iggs could've still been on a major label. They probably didn't know what to do after "Fancy" and "Black Widow" blew up. Imo, she could've been featured more, but her lashing back and forth didn't help either?

All in all, (if it wasn’t for her past social media controversy) she could’ve had a career as a crossover Pop/Rapper in the vein of ‘Flo Rida’ and ‘Pitbull’ or become a ‘Fergie’-lite of sorts.

She may not have had much career longevity, but she could’ve lasted several more hit singles and potential number ones but just not be taken seriously as an albums artist.

Regardless, she would’ve cemented herself as a 2010’s icon to a degree.

The backlash, and her tone-deaf responses to it most of the time, completely ruined any chance of a comeback especially where radio was concerned.

Now in the Streaming era, where most success is totally in the hands of the consumer and their streams, she could be revived if she scores a viral hit but I highly doubt it.

She still gets high Youtube views whenever she puts out videos. Both KREAM and Sally Walker did chart (for one week lmao) - so a viral hit isn't out of the question. But yeah, glad her time in the spotlight's done. I'll gladly take Cardi, Megan, Doja or even Nicki over her, and I almost never take Nicki over anything.

[Limited Edition]

Jun 14, 2020 5:03:58 GMT -5 GP said:

Jun 14, 2020 4:54:22 GMT -5 Limited Edition said:

Insane that Trollz is already below GOOBA on Spotify...

I don't think it ever was above GOOBA on Spotify and never will

It was on Spotify US yesterday, not globally though

[wavey.]

Jun 14, 2020 8:26:54 GMT -5 kierz7 said:

Jun 14, 2020 8:09:18 GMT -5 wavey. said:

Iggs could've still been on a major label. They probably didn't know what to do after "Fancy" and "Black Widow" blew up. Imo, she could've been featured more, but her lashing back and forth didn't help either?

All in all, (if it wasn’t for her past social media controversy) she could’ve had a career as a crossover Pop/Rapper in the vein of ‘Flo Rida’ and ‘Pitbull’ or become a ‘Fergie’-lite of sorts.

She may not have had much career longevity, but she could’ve lasted several more hit singles and potential number ones but just not be taken seriously as an albums artist.

Regardless, she would’ve cemented herself as a 2010’s icon to a degree.

The backlash, and her tone-deaf responses to it most of the time, completely ruined any chance of a comeback especially where radio was concerned.

Now in the Streaming era, where most success is totally in the hands of the consumer and their streams, she could be revived if she scores a viral hit but I highly doubt it.

This. I was saying this in a chat before. If TikTok was booming when SW, Kream, and Started hit, she would definitely have some hits independently. Which would obviously be a good thing for her.

[imbondz]

Ugh. Please don’t misquote me like that. If that’s your take just say it. You have every right to your opinion. But please don’t change my thoughts to fit your opinion.

[imbondz]

Jun 14, 2020 9:13:43 GMT -5 Codex said:

Jun 14, 2020 9:09:14 GMT -5 imbondz said:

Ugh. Please don’t misquote me like that. If that’s your take just say it. You have every right to your opinion. But please don’t change my thoughts to fit your opinion.

Sorry, you’re right, I updated it

Thanks. Appreciate it.

[thelegends]

Jun 14, 2020 8:13:05 GMT -5 kierz7 said:

Jun 14, 2020 7:57:01 GMT -5 imbondz said:

I don’t agree at all that Iggy opened doors to any female rappers. She piggy backed off of the female rappers that came before her. Missy Elliot, Lil Kim, Salt n Pepa, Nikki Minaj, Eve, Lauren Hill, Da Brat...so many others.

The female rappers today would still be here with or without Iggys 1 year of relevance.

That user just used Iggy Azelea as an example to indirectly ‘shade’ Cardi B. 💀

There isn’t a single factor within Azelea’s success that shows she opened the door for absolutely any Female rapper, and even so in the 2010’s climate.

If you’re delusional enough to argue that she did so and helped “break the mold” from a commercial perspective then go ahead.

Sonically? No.
Musically? No.
Artistically? No.

I agree, even Iggy’s singles were mostly pop and blew up because of the featured artists and not because of Iggy. There was also a 3 year gap between Iggy and Cardi where Remy Ma was the only female rapper other than Nicki to do well on the charts (Maybe Dej Loaf if you consider her a rapper) and even then, it was only 1 song that peaked at #7 and contained lots of male rappers alongside her. Cardi opened the door for other female rappers to get solo #1s on the Hot 100. Look, even her first track to chart was a solo hit. Even Tyga and Quavo couldn’t revive Iggy’s career.

[kierz7]

Jun 14, 2020 9:03:43 GMT -5 Codex said:

Jun 14, 2020 7:57:01 GMT -5 imbondz said:

I don’t agree at all that Iggy Cardi opened doors to any female rappers. She piggy backed off of the female rappers that came before her. Missy Elliot, Lil Kim, Salt n Pepa, Nikki Minaj, Eve, Lauren Hill, Da Brat...so many others.

The female rappers today would still be here with or without Iggy Cardis 1 year of relevance.

kierz7 are we all in agreement?

If so, maybe we can get back to a song that’s relevant today, TROLLZ!

The “1 year of relevance” where she scored achievements that her peer couldn’t in seven years of relevance? Ch-

It’s only 2020 and we’re still holding out hope, it’s okay.

#False!RealNumbersComeOutOnSunday

🤧

[annoymous1]

Look ya'll don't have to respect Cardi as a rapper,but don't be acting like oh Cardi didn't open doors she piggybacked nope she came in and respected everyone (Yes including Nicki) made music even haters turn up too.. so many female rappers debuting on the charts now could you say that 10 years ago? Nope.

[chartfreak]

I see 2 versions of Trollz, is one a clean version? I'm assuming it is. I don't have access right now. Thanks.

[dremolus - solarpunk]

Spotify - 06/11/20

1(=) DaBaby - ROCKSTAR 1,223,197 (-105,876)
2(=) StaySolidRocky - Party Girl 1,157,884 (-11,581)
3(=) Lil Baby - The Bigger Picture 1,140,438 (+37,163)
4(=) The Weeknd - Blinding Lights 1,070,117 (+16,708)
5(=) Lil Mosey - Blueberry Faygo 1,015,848 (-33,584)
6(=) THE SCOTTS - THE SCOTTS 1,009,256 (-16,728)
7(=) Jack Harlow - WHATS POPPIN 901,132 (-21,282)
8(=) Drake - Toosie Slide 894,061 (+6,773)
9(+1) Harry Styles - Watermelon Sugar 891,775 (+17,045)
10(-1) Roddy Ricch - The Box 870,102 (-13,463)

Other:
11(=) Lady Gaga - Rain on Me 831,058 (-25,206)
12(+1) Megan Thee Stallion - Savage Remix 822,593 (+12,846)
13(+1) SAINt Jhn - Roses (Imanbek Remix) 812,803 (+10,913)
14(+7) DaBaby - ROCKSTAR BLM REMIX 714,541 (+67,946)
15(+1) Don Toliver - After Party 705,120 (-23,343)
16(+4) Surface - Sunday Best 665,778 (+1,410)
17(+1) NLE Choppa - Walk Em Down 657,166 (-24,828)
18(+4) Justin Bieber - Intentions 642,261 (+423)
20(+5) powfu - death bed 613,622 (-6,295)
21(-9) The Kid LAROI - GO 604,795 (-228,817)
22(+2) 6ix9ine - GOOBA 601,820 (-22,919)
24(-7) Tyla Yaweh - Tommy Lee 594,472 (-131,488)
25(-10) 6ix9ine - TROLLZ 591,316 (-169,413)
26(+4) NLE Choppa - Shotta Flow 5 562,175
27(+1) Drake - Chicago Freestyle 573,641 (-16,616)
28(+1) Dua Lipa - Don't Start Now 565,989 (-5,402)
31(+1) Sleepy Hallow - Deep End Freestyle 537,239 (-7,820)
32(+2) Ariana Grande - Stuck with U 532,212 (-2,814)
33(+2) BENEE - Supalonely 531,738 (-2,714)
34(-15) Pop Smoke - Make It Rain 530,681 (-144,501)
35(+1) Dua Lipa - Break My Heart 529,210 (+7,238)
37(+2) Trevor Daniel - Falling 499,513 (-17,158)
46(+9) Lil Baby - Emotionally Scarred 454,704 (+31,001)
48(+3) Surf Mesa - ily 449,709 (+9,166)
49(-2) Roddy Ricch - High Fashion 441,136 (-12,938)
50(-1) Marshmello - Be Kind 438,513 (-5,659)
52(-4) Polo G - Flex 428,627 (-21,655)
53(=) Doja Cat - Say So 420,602 (-13,755)
58(+2) Melanie Martinez - Play Date 391,546 (-15,227)
65(-3) Lewis Capaldi - Before You Go 373,811 (-20,565)
71(=) Doja Cat - Say So Remix 364,472 (+414)
72(+4) Morgan Wallen - Chasin' You 358,943 (+13,406)
74(-1) Megan Thee Stallion - Savage 350,401 (-1,823)
75(-8) iann dior - Prospect 336,268 (-43,644)
78(+15) Lil Baby - We Paid 326,659 (+13,147)
81(+10) Social House - Magic in the Hamptons 320,377 (+4,731)
86(+3) Chloe x Halle - Do It 309,744 (-8,700)
94(+22) Chris Brown - Go Crazy 293,991 (+13,814)

2020 truly is a crazy year, Christ Brown actually made one of the best hit songs of the year so far  

[amid]

Jun 14, 2020 10:56:14 GMT -5 dremolus - solarpunk said:

2020 truly is a crazy year, Christ Brown actually made one of the best hit songs of the year so far  

which song are you talking abt? Go Crazy?

[iHype.]

Iggy didn't open doors lmao. You all somehow forget she was entirely panned and cancelled altogether by the public after just 1 Summer, and I'm not trying to be mean. She actually kind of set female rap back. Not to mention she was apart of the era when white R&B/Hip-Hop artists were clearly getting the backing in favor of black artists making R&B/Hip-Hop music so to say she opened the door for them is actually kind of offensive. She lowkey made it harder for black female rappers at the time, but that's another story.

As for female rappers getting big since 2018, I think that has more to do with streaming taking off than it does Cardi B. We're all aware streaming taking off made Hip-Hop more successful than ever, which ofcourse, would then open the door for female rappers to be more successful than ever. Cardi herself was a product of the streaming era allowing huge success for Hip-Hop.

Just like streaming put R&B females back on the map after just a Rihanna/Beyonce monopoly for a decade, and now we have Jhene/Summer/SZA/H.E.R/Lizzo/Ella Mai getting Platinum albums. It wasn't a single artist who opened a door or made something hot again more than it was just an overall climate shift.

[dremolus - solarpunk]

Jun 14, 2020 11:01:34 GMT -5 amid said:

Jun 14, 2020 10:56:14 GMT -5 dremolus - solarpunk said:

2020 truly is a crazy year, Christ Brown actually made one of the best hit songs of the year so far  

which song are you talking abt? Go Crazy?

ye

[rosalina4812]

I hate Chris Brown. I hate that he makes good music. I hate that he is a shit human being. I hate that he is still making music. I hate that so talented. I hate him.

[saltnpeppa]

Are Troolz sales so far anything special? Being on twitter would make you think it’s smashing there if nowhere else but I’m skeptical of that, not so skeptical of the power of the Barbz however

[Baby Yoda Hot100Fan]

^Now that the explicit and clean version at #1 and #3 in iTunes and there's bundles, I'm pretty sure it should obliterate any sales by any other song this week. I guess 6ix9ine and Nicki are not leaving a potential #1 debut in the Hot 100 to chance.

[Xander]

^ the song being #1 and #3 is impressive, but the question is: Will both versions remain there for the entire week?

[Baby Yoda Hot100Fan]

^If you ask me. This is a typical frontloaded song in sales and streaming. BTW, it was already below Gooba at Spotify yesterday.