Billboard Hot 100: 06/27/2020

[Enigma.]

What did the #1 sell last week, maybe 13k or so? Gooba did 24k so even Barbz helping him, I doubt that Trollz will sell enough to go #1 with that low audio streams.

[Baby Yoda Hot100Fan]

^We'll see. In iTunes, the versions combined are currently selling at more than twice the #2 is selling. So, it will probably boil down to how well those bundles do if the overall sales are enough or not. I'm personally hoping they aren't.

[iHype.]

I don't see the bundles doing anything special. 6IX9INE fans wouldn't even spend $10 on an album for him... why would they spend $10 for one song on Vinyl.

I don't think the Barbaz care about spending that either. I guess the only sales outside iTunes that could be notable are people who purchase the digital download on his website after buying iTunes copies. I don't think that'd be more than a few thousand though.

[amid]

The fact that NLE Choppa isn’t a one-hit wonder is so surreal

[shayonce]

I got it wrong. the bundle and digital download is also available on 69's website too.

[shaz196]

Huge gains for ROCKSTAR on radio today, looks like it'll be #1 for a while.

[velaxti]

Jun 14, 2020 11:04:44 GMT -5 iHype. said:

Iggy didn't open doors lmao. You all somehow forget she was entirely panned and cancelled altogether by the public after just 1 Summer, and I'm not trying to be mean. She actually kind of set female rap back. Not to mention she was apart of the era when white R&B/Hip-Hop artists were clearly getting the backing in favor of black artists making R&B/Hip-Hop music so to say she opened the door for them is actually kind of offensive. She lowkey made it harder for black female rappers at the time, but that's another story.

As for female rappers getting big since 2018, I think that has more to do with streaming taking off than it does Cardi B. We're all aware streaming taking off made Hip-Hop more successful than ever, which ofcourse, would then open the door for female rappers to be more successful than ever. Cardi herself was a product of the streaming era allowing huge success for Hip-Hop.

Just like streaming put R&B females back on the map after just a Rihanna/Beyonce monopoly for a decade, and now we have Jhene/Summer/SZA/H.E.R/Lizzo/Ella Mai getting Platinum albums. It wasn't a single artist who opened a door or made something hot again more than it was just an overall climate shift.

Yeah. Back then I was really happy to see "rhythmic" songs become crossover hits again after we went through such a period of dance-pop dominating so much, but I quickly became very suspicious that it was Robin Thicke, Ariana Grande, Macklemore, Daft Punk, Miley Cyrus, Lorde, etc. who were getting these hits. It was too much to be coincidence really. It changed after a couple of years though.

About Iggy Azalea, it will take too long to explain now on my phone, but I don't think the fact that she got "cancelled" is the reason for her career decline. At least not 100% of the reason. I have a few points to back this up, although I know it can never really be proven either way.

[sirskimask]

Jun 14, 2020 13:38:06 GMT -5 amid said:

The fact that NLE Choppa isn’t a one-hit wonder is so surreal

More importantly, how many more goddamn versions of Shotta Flow is he gonna make

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Jun 14, 2020 11:04:44 GMT -5 iHype. said:

Iggy didn't open doors lmao. You all somehow forget she was entirely panned and cancelled altogether by the public after just 1 Summer, and I'm not trying to be mean. She actually kind of set female rap back. Not to mention she was apart of the era when white R&B/Hip-Hop artists were clearly getting the backing in favor of black artists making R&B/Hip-Hop music so to say she opened the door for them is actually kind of offensive. She lowkey made it harder for black female rappers at the time, but that's another story.

As for female rappers getting big since 2018, I think that has more to do with streaming taking off than it does Cardi B. We're all aware streaming taking off made Hip-Hop more successful than ever, which ofcourse, would then open the door for female rappers to be more successful than ever. Cardi herself was a product of the streaming era allowing huge success for Hip-Hop.

Just like streaming put R&B females back on the map after just a Rihanna/Beyonce monopoly for a decade, and now we have Jhene/Summer/SZA/H.E.R/Lizzo/Ella Mai getting Platinum albums. It wasn't a single artist who opened a door or made something hot again more than it was just an overall climate shift.

Iggy Azalea is the female Vanilla Ice.

[iHype.]

Jun 14, 2020 16:07:06 GMT -5 velaxti said:

Yeah. Back then I was really happy to see "rhythmic" songs become crossover hits again after we went through such a period of dance-pop dominating so much, but I quickly became very suspicious that it was Robin Thicke, Ariana Grande, Macklemore, Daft Punk, Miley Cyrus, Lorde, etc. who were getting these hits. It was too much to be coincidence really. It changed after a couple of years though.

None of it was a coincidence. 2013-2014 was also when Eminem & Timberlake dominated, Dark Horse crossed over, and Justin Bieber was suddenly collaborating with Lil Twist/Tyga and wearing gold chains overnight lol. It was clear that labels were pushing the white/Top 40 friendly artists incorporating the R&B/Hip-Hop genre, while the artists in that field that weren't perceived as having crossover ability were ignored.

Then in 2015 once Iggy/Macklemore had humongous backlash + streaming was beginning to show there was actual commercial demand with pushing full R&B/Hip-Hop music rather than just Pop stars just using it as a crossover gimmick that is when all that stuff died down.

Now we have full on rappers and R&B singers who are receiving huge push and doing huge numbers. That period was shameless, and it'll definitely be a reference in history especially in regards to the current social/political climate the past decade. 

[Xander]

Jun 14, 2020 14:23:05 GMT -5 shayonce said:

I got it wrong. the bundle and digital download is also available on 69's website too.

Wow, seems like they’re buying a lot of copies. However, I wonder if they bought more than 4 copies on a single card, if they did, it would disqualify a lot of the sales.

[degen]

With no dominant #1 this summer like an “Old Town Road” or “Despacito” every week the #1 seems up for grabs. Songs like “Me!” and “I Don’t Care” from last summer would’ve easily debut at #1 this year.

Now is a great time for any big artist to be dropping a single/music video on the same day and have sales bundles for your die hard fans. I feel like anyone can grab a #1 debut now.

[wavey.]

Jun 14, 2020 18:40:18 GMT -5 @gabingston said:

Jun 14, 2020 11:04:44 GMT -5 iHype. said:

Iggy Azalea is the female Vanilla Ice.

Idk bout alla that. Yall make it like she was garbage on demand.

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Jun 14, 2020 21:25:21 GMT -5 wavey. said:

Jun 14, 2020 18:40:18 GMT -5 @gabingston said:

Iggy Azalea is the female Vanilla Ice.

Idk bout alla that. Yall make it like she was garbage on demand.

Both Iggy and Vanilla Ice were white rappers who blew up for a brief amount of time (2014 for Iggy and 1990-91 for Vanilla), only for both of them to become punchlines just as quickly due to them being total posers, while foreshadowing an explosion of more legit rappers in the years to come (Gangsta Rap blew up in 1992/93, while female rappers began to gain more of a presence around 2017/18). Granted, I'm no expert on Hip-Hop, so take my opinions with a grain of salt.

[wavey.]

Jun 14, 2020 21:31:55 GMT -5 @gabingston said:

Jun 14, 2020 21:25:21 GMT -5 wavey. said:

Idk bout alla that. Yall make it like she was garbage on demand.

Both Iggy and Vanilla Ice were white rappers who blew up for a brief amount of time (2014 for Iggy and 1990-91 for Vanilla), only for both of them to become punchlines just as quickly due to them being total posers, while foreshadowing an explosion of more legit rappers in the years to come (Gangsta Rap blew up in 1992/93, while female rappers began to gain more of a presence around 2017/18). Granted, I'm no expert on Hip-Hop, so take my opinions with a grain of salt.

I'm definitely open to opinions. I wouldn't say poser, but she definitely ruffled some feathers when it wasn't that deep. Even K.Michelle had a issue with her "blaccent". Sis, you don't even rap so why.. ugh, what a time.(I get the slave master line, and the old tweets but..)

[korbel16]

It always kills me when there are certain records where it says “biggest of the century” etc because there’s only been 20 years of this century 💀💀

[Baby Yoda Hot100Fan]

^They should have an asterisk and include a "so far" qualifier. It is even worse for decade. For instance, The Box is the longest running #1 this decade which doesn't mean much considering we haven't even completed 6 months in this decade.

[shayonce]

Apple Music USA Top 100 - 6/14 Sunday -
1.(=) Lil Baby - The Bigger Picture
2.(=) DaBaby - ROCKSTAR (feat. Roddy Ricch)
3.(=) Lil Baby & 42 Dugg - We Paid
4.(=) 6ix9ine & Nicki Minaj - TROLLZ
5.(+1) Roddy Ricch - The Box
6.(+1) Megan Thee Stallion - Savage Remix (feat. Beyoncé)
7.(-1) Pop Smoke - Make It Rain (feat. Rowdy Rebel)
8.(+2) Lil Baby - Emotionally Scarred
9.(+2) StaySolidRocky - Party Girl
10.(-1) Lil Baby - Sum 2 Prove

11.(-3) Jack Harlow - WHATS POPPIN
12.(+2) Drake - Chicago Freestyle (feat. Giveon)
13.(=) Polo G - Flex (feat. Juice WRLD)
14.(-2) Drake - Toosie Slide
15.(=) Lil Mosey - Blueberry Faygo
16.(+1) Lil Baby & 42 Dugg - Grace
17.(-1) Chris Brown & Young Thug - Go Crazy
18.(=) Future - Life Is Good (feat. Drake)
19.(=) Lil Baby - Woah
20.(=) THE SCOTTS, Travis Scott & Kid Cudi - THE SCOTTS

21.(=) Gunna - DOLLAZ ON MY HEAD (feat. Young Thug)
22.(=) The Weeknd - Blinding Lights
23.(=) Roddy Ricch - High Fashion (feat. Mustard)
24.(+2) NLE Choppa - Walk Em Down (feat. Roddy Ricch)
25.(-1) 6ix9ine - GOOBA
26.(+4) Harry Styles - Watermelon Sugar
27.(-2) Gunna - COOLER THAN A BITCH (feat. Roddy Ricch)
28.(=) Lady Gaga & Ariana Grande - Rain On Me
30.(-1) Mustard & Roddy Ricch - Ballin’

32.(=) SAINt JHN - Roses (Imanbek Remix)
33.(=) Lil Durk - 3 Headed Goat (feat. Lil Baby & Polo G)
34.(+1) Polo G - Martin & Gina
35.(+1) Surfaces - Sunday Best
36.(+6) The Kid LAROI & Juice WRLD - GO
37.(+3) Don Toliver - After Party
38.(=) Future - Trillionaire (feat. YoungBoy Never Broke Again)
41.(=) Justin Bieber - Intentions (feat. Quavo)
42.(-8) Meek Mill - Otherside of America
47.(-2) DaBaby - ROCKSTAR (feat. Roddy Ricch) [BLM REMIX]
49.(-1) NLE Choppa - Shotta Flow 5

50.(+5) Harry Styles - Adore You
51.(+8) Rod Wave - Girl of My Dreams
52.(-2) Pop Smoke - Dior
56.(+5) Kehlani - Can I (feat. Tory Lanez)
60.(+2) Diplo - Heartless (feat. Morgan Wallen)
61.(-8) Chloe x Halle - Do It
62.(+2) Morgan Wallen - Chasin' You
63.(+3) Jhené Aiko - B.S. (feat. H.E.R.)
67.(+11) Ariana Grande & Justin Bieber - Stuck with U

74.(+3) PARTYNEXTDOOR & Rihanna - BELIEVE IT
75.(-3) Moneybagg Yo - Me Vs Me
76.(-7) Lil Baby & Gunna - Drip Too Hard
78.(-5) Migos - Need It (feat. YoungBoy Never Broke Again)
79.(-4) Megan Thee Stallion - Captain Hook
80.(+1) Morgan Wallen - Whiskey Glasses
82.(=) Tory Lanez - Broke In A Minute
85.(+5) Marshmello & Halsey - Be Kind
87.(-1) Chloe x Halle - Forgive Me
88.(+10) Dua Lipa - Break My Heart
92. Lewis Capaldi - Before You Go
93.(-8) Megan Thee Stallion - Savage
97.(-3) NAV & Gunna - Turks (feat. Travis Scott)
100.(=) Sleepy Hallow & Fousheé - Deep End Freestyle

[voiddetweiler]

It's interesting to see just how hard TROLLZ is tanking on Spotify – with those deficits, I think that a #1 debut might be out of its grasp.

[thelegends]

Jun 14, 2020 16:16:29 GMT -5 sirskimask said:

Jun 14, 2020 13:38:06 GMT -5 amid said:

The fact that NLE Choppa isn’t a one-hit wonder is so surreal

More importantly, how many more goddamn versions of Shotta Flow is he gonna make

He released Shotta Flow 5 and Shotta Flow has been out for less than a year and was on the charts a couple of months ago. If you wanna hear a song that is basically a rehash of another song, listen to L.I.T and Stretch It by JB Scofield. Both songs are the same, with L.I.T being released later than Stretch It.

[dremolus - solarpunk]

Jun 15, 2020 4:21:33 GMT -5 voiddetweiler said:

It's interesting to see just how hard TROLLZ is tanking on Spotify – with those deficits, I think that a #1 debut might be out of its grasp.

Then I can't wait for 6ix9ine to expose the "formula" for why his song didn't do as well and for chart predictions to go into a fit once more.

[Enigma.]

Watermelon Sugar is #7 on Spotify already!

[imbondz]

I know rap is huge right now. But it’s crazy to me that a song like Rain On Me can’t spend multiple weeks at #1. It seems huge even tho I don’t listen to the radio anymore. Does anyone think it will go back to #1 if radio impressions increase?

Rap is probably my least listened to genre. I’ve only liked a handful of songs over the past few years like Gods Plan, In My Feelings, a couple Post Malone songs which are more rap/pop (not including Circles which I still love but it’s not rap). Old Town Road was fun and the Box was cool. I Like It was great. But that’s about it.

It’s amazing the power of rap on streaming services.

[chanman]

Jun 15, 2020 7:17:27 GMT -5 imbondz said:

I know rap is huge right now. But it’s crazy to me that a song like Rain On Me can’t spend multiple weeks at #1. It seems huge even tho I don’t listen to the radio anymore. Does anyone think it will go back to #1 if radio impressions increase?

Rap is probably my least listened to genre. I’ve only liked a handful of songs over the past few years like Gods Plan, In My Feelings, a couple Post Malone songs which are more rap/pop (not including Circles which I still love but it’s not rap). Old Town Road was fun and the Box was cool. I Like It was great. But that’s about it.

It’s amazing the power of rap on streaming services.

I also don't listen to much of the Rap, only just a handful. I am not into US mainstream, more into soca/dancehall and other genres.

Rap will be huge for some more years in the music cycle. The real question is, what would it take to increase radio impressions? All 3 metrics have shrunk with 2020 events, however streaming still holds as the main weight. I don't know if Billboard will adjust their formulas in the not too distant future, as they are all about inclusion of different genres into Hot 100!

In reference to Rain On Me and with its trends on the chart, getting back to number 1 is tough, when its airplay is growing but streams and sales are declining very slowly. When that balances out in upcoming weeks, I would say its chances are like low to nil in returning to number 1.

[strongerq]

Jun 15, 2020 7:17:27 GMT -5 imbondz said:

I know rap is huge right now. But it’s crazy to me that a song like Rain On Me can’t spend multiple weeks at #1. It seems huge even tho I don’t listen to the radio anymore. Does anyone think it will go back to #1 if radio impressions increase?

Rap is probably my least listened to genre. I’ve only liked a handful of songs over the past few years like Gods Plan, In My Feelings, a couple Post Malone songs which are more rap/pop (not including Circles which I still love but it’s not rap). Old Town Road was fun and the Box was cool. I Like It was great. But that’s about it.

It’s amazing the power of rap on streaming services.

The main reason why it was #1 in the first place were the huge sales (72K), it had ~20K in the second week. That is 10,400 points down the drain. First week on-demand audio streams were 20.6M, second week despite album drop they fell to 16M.

Rain On Me isn't a huge song by #1 standards. It isn't among the gimmicky #1s either (e.g. SWU). But remember it was #1 mostly because of the push by dedicated fanbases.

Regarding streaming power of hip-hop, here is something:

There have been 29 album weeks where the album had 200+ Million streams (not unique albums).

Out of those only 2 are pop albums: thank u, next - Ariana Grande - 307,100,000 & Lover - Taylor Swift - 226,100,000.

Note: I label Post Malone as hip-hop artist and The Weeknd as R&B. Because record labels and award shows put them in those genres.

200 M streams translated to 133.3K SEA before June 2018 and after June 2018 it depends how many of those were free/paid. In most cases free/paid streams ratio is (20%/80% or 15%/85%), so 138.6K SEA or 142K SEA.

If you think it is easy to do, those 29 album weeks are by 16 unique artists. And ONLY 5 artists have had more than 1 week with 200M+ streams.

[Abbaschand]

Guys, I've listened to The Bigger Picture for the first time, and unfortunately...it slaps.

[atg]

Jun 13, 2020 17:45:13 GMT -5 Limited Edition said:

Jun 13, 2020 15:45:37 GMT -5 atg said:

Isn’t girls like you like maroon 5’s biggest hit now

According to mediatraffic no. Moves Like Jagger is 47th in the worldwide all time list while Girls Like You is 68th. It's close though

Moves like jagger was #20 of last decade right? And girls like you was #5

I don’t even know this even makes sense

[chanman]

Jun 15, 2020 8:27:20 GMT -5 Abbaschand said:

Guys, I've listened to The Bigger Picture for the first time, and unfortunately...it slaps.

I thought by now that would be promoted heavy to Radio..

[atg]

Jun 14, 2020 13:38:06 GMT -5 amid said:

The fact that NLE Choppa isn’t a one-hit wonder is so surreal

I feel the same way with Polo G, blackbear, sheck wes (if you count him on travis scott’s no bystanders you be the judge on that), Youngboy and Gunna though with the latter the inevitable Circles ft Gunna will make him a superstar

[fhas]

Jun 15, 2020 8:15:00 GMT -5 strongerq said:

Jun 15, 2020 7:17:27 GMT -5 imbondz said:

I know rap is huge right now. But it’s crazy to me that a song like Rain On Me can’t spend multiple weeks at #1. It seems huge even tho I don’t listen to the radio anymore. Does anyone think it will go back to #1 if radio impressions increase?

Rap is probably my least listened to genre. I’ve only liked a handful of songs over the past few years like Gods Plan, In My Feelings, a couple Post Malone songs which are more rap/pop (not including Circles which I still love but it’s not rap). Old Town Road was fun and the Box was cool. I Like It was great. But that’s about it.

It’s amazing the power of rap on streaming services.

The main reason why it was #1 in the first place were the huge sales (72K), it had ~20K in the second week. That is 10,400 points down the drain. First week on-demand audio streams were 20.6M, second week despite album drop they fell to 16M.

Rain On Me isn't a huge song by #1 standards. It isn't among the gimmicky #1s either (e.g. SWU). But remember it was #1 mostly because of the push by dedicated fanbases.

Regarding streaming power of hip-hop, here is something:

There have been 29 album weeks where the album had 200+ Million streams (not unique albums).

Out of those only 2 are pop albums: thank u, next - Ariana Grande - 307,100,000 & Lover - Taylor Swift - 226,100,000.

Note: I label Post Malone as hip-hop artist and The Weeknd as R&B. Because record labels and award shows put them in those genres.

200 M streams translated to 133.3K SEA before June 2018 and after June 2018 it depends how many of those were free/paid. In most cases free/paid streams ratio is (20%/80% or 15%/85%), so 138.6K SEA or 142K SEA.

If you think it is easy to do, those 29 album weeks are by 16 unique artists. And ONLY 5 artists have had more than 1 week with 200M+ streams.

Drake, J. Cole, Eminem, Post Malone and Lil Uzi Vert?