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Post by avatar on Nov 6, 2020 11:43:22 GMT -5
^ Still good though!
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Post by Az Paynter on Nov 7, 2020 6:52:11 GMT -5
Unexpectedly huge spin loss for 'Savage Love' today. There is an outside chance Ava could finish at #3 tomorrow with another update like this!
POP: 7 4 AVA MAX Kings & Queens 13855 12214 1641 60.449
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HOT AC: 9 6 AVA MAX Kings & Queens 4204 3730 474 19.898
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37 Spins ahead of #5, Gabby Barrett (+179)
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Post by avatar on Nov 7, 2020 17:44:03 GMT -5
The production of this kinda reminds me of "Break Free" by Ariana Grande a bit, especially in the chorus.
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Post by kimberly on Nov 7, 2020 18:11:00 GMT -5
I can't see this faring any better than "So Am I". Prove me wrong, Ava! Btw: existing thread in "World Hits". we love to see it! If any of her post SBS singles is gonna do anything, it's this. Choco knows his shit!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2020 18:29:30 GMT -5
#8 on iTunes #360 on Apple Music
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Post by kimberly on Nov 7, 2020 18:41:18 GMT -5
The production of this kinda reminds me of "Break Free" by Ariana Grande a bit, especially in the chorus. this post inspired me to look through the first few pages of this thread to see if anyone caught the "You Give Love A Bad Name"/"If You Were a Woman" similarities initially, and I don't think anyone mentioned it. but yeah this song sounds almost exactly like those two, and all three give writing credits to Desmond Child for it. I believe Bonnie Tyler's song came first. I don't get the "Break Free" comparison really, especially production-wise. That one has a much more flat, EDM-infused production compared to this. There is a slight melodic similarity but I think that's just the fact that they're pop songs?
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Post by collin on Nov 7, 2020 21:47:26 GMT -5
I have a good feeling about this. Aha!
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Post by Choco on Nov 7, 2020 22:26:06 GMT -5
I can't see this faring any better than "So Am I". Prove me wrong, Ava! Btw: existing thread in "World Hits". we love to see it! If any of her post SBS singles is gonna do anything, it's this. Choco knows his s**t! I do lol, but this going top 3 is one of the biggest surprises of the year nonetheless. Early numbers weren't great. Kudos to her team and to her ofc.
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Post by avatar on Nov 7, 2020 22:44:53 GMT -5
I bought a record player today solely to play Heaven & Hell whenever it comes out. Too bad we donβt have a vinyl yet
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Post by avatar on Nov 7, 2020 22:46:00 GMT -5
Great gain today. Hope it continues all the way into top 30 3 at least!
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Post by avatar on Nov 7, 2020 22:48:54 GMT -5
Well... sis is a one hit wonder in the US. oop- I was hella wrong
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2020 8:20:15 GMT -5
I'm happy this is becoming a hit! It's a bop.
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Post by Az Paynter on Nov 8, 2020 8:34:17 GMT -5
POP: 7 4 AVA MAX Kings & Queens 14054 12448 1606 61.515
+199 Spins -35 Bullet +1.066 Audience
HOT AC: 9 6 AVA MAX Kings & Queens 4269 3714 555 20.279
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SPINS: 162 Spins from #3, Jawsh x Jason (+407)
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Post by kimberly on Nov 8, 2020 16:25:14 GMT -5
predicted to reach #20 on the Hot 100 this week
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Post by vithor on Nov 8, 2020 17:50:20 GMT -5
Top 20 at the Hot100 would be a HUGE win for her, especially for a song that climbed as opposed to debuting at peak and falling
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Post by Az Paynter on Nov 9, 2020 7:01:15 GMT -5
POP: 6 3 AVA MAX Kings & Queens 14140 12625 1515 62.112
+86 Spins -91 Bullet +0.597 Audience
HOT AC: 9 6 AVA MAX Kings & Queens 4295 3803 492 20.251
+26 Spins -63 Bullet -0.028 Audience
SPINS: 165 Spins ahead of #4, Jawsh x Jason (+327)
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Post by musicspy on Nov 9, 2020 7:31:01 GMT -5
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Post by avatar on Nov 9, 2020 8:43:56 GMT -5
Probably just a fluke... I hope.
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Post by PGriffin on Nov 9, 2020 9:15:54 GMT -5
This is still going? Well slay a bit then Ava! Surprise hit of 2020.
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Post by iamsorare on Nov 9, 2020 14:08:08 GMT -5
#3 on itunes.
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Post by π‘πππππ€ on Nov 9, 2020 14:53:09 GMT -5
#2 & #3 on iTunes arenβt even top 100 on Spotify, thatβs weird
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Post by leonagwen on Nov 9, 2020 15:46:40 GMT -5
#2 & #3 on iTunes arenβt even top 100 on Spotify, thatβs weird Its not even on the Spotify top 200 and is #390 on Apple Music, so how is this #3 on Pop?
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Post by Leo β on Nov 9, 2020 15:59:33 GMT -5
#2 & #3 on iTunes arenβt even top 100 on Spotify, thatβs weird Its not even on the Spotify top 200 and is #390 on Apple Music, so how is this #3 on Pop? Interesting you of all the people are questioning this. Do you remember when "My Oh My" had 19K spins and was nowhere found in the top 200 neither iTunes or Spotify? Well :sip2:
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Post by leonagwen on Nov 9, 2020 16:48:09 GMT -5
Its not even on the Spotify top 200 and is #390 on Apple Music, so how is this #3 on Pop? Interesting you of all the people are questioning this. Do you remember when "My Oh My" had 19K spins and was nowhere found in the top 200 neither iTunes or Spotify? Well :sip2: My Oh My was on the Spotify top 200 and it was top 100 on itunes when it hit #1 on Pop. Anyway im just asking for an explanation as to why Kings and Queens is doing so well on airplay with low Spofify and Apple Music #'s.
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Post by #brayden on Nov 9, 2020 17:08:21 GMT -5
Interesting you of all the people are questioning this. Do you remember when "My Oh My" had 19K spins and was nowhere found in the top 200 neither iTunes or Spotify? Well My Oh My was on the Spotify top 200 and it was top 100 on itunes when it hit #1 on Pop. Anyway im just asking for an explanation as to why Kings and Queens is doing so well on airplay with low Spofify and Apple Music #'s. www.rollingstone.com/pro/features/pay-for-play-radio-texts-1067691/
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Post by π‘πππππ€ on Nov 9, 2020 19:03:30 GMT -5
I think high iTunes sales are valuable. K&Q also has really good callout scores, which is helping it along. It only recently left the Spotify 200 and re-enters every few days.
Its pop radio position is not improbable. Yeah, there are other songs more deserving of this songβs radio run, but pop just does what it wants.
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Post by kimberly on Nov 9, 2020 19:45:58 GMT -5
I think high iTunes sales are valuable. K&Q also has really good callout scores, which is helping it along. It only recently left the Spotify 200 and re-enters every few days. Its pop radio position is not improbable. Yeah, there are other songs more deserving of this songβs radio run, but pop just does what it wants. not to forget the song's impeccable performance across the globe, especially Europe. it reached Top 5 in several markets, including Scotland, Belgium/F, Netherlands, Switzerland, Latvia, Ukraine, Romania, Poland, Slovakia, Slovenia, as well as Top 10 placements in Belgium/W, Norway, Croatia and more. combined with its remixes, it already has more than 310 million streams on Spotify and 100 million views on YouTube. It also reached No. 33 on Apple Music Global and No. 14 on Apple Music Europe, per kworb. it's not a global smash hit, but it's served longevity since its release in spring & it's Ava Max's second song EVER sent to pop radio. so I understand this more if they're going off of callouts + iTunes + global performance + breakthrough act factors.
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Post by avatar on Nov 9, 2020 23:50:41 GMT -5
I think high iTunes sales are valuable. K&Q also has really good callout scores, which is helping it along. It only recently left the Spotify 200 and re-enters every few days. Its pop radio position is not improbable. Yeah, there are other songs more deserving of this songβs radio run, but pop just does what it wants. it's not a global smash hit, but it's served longevity since its release in spring & it's Ava Max's second third (fifth including features) song EVER sent to pop radio. You forgot about: And most importantly...
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Post by kimberly on Nov 9, 2020 23:56:49 GMT -5
avatar β the only Ava Max songs that received an official impact date are "So Am I" and "Kings & Queens". features don't really matter here, as it isn't Ava's team doing the promoting.
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Post by kimberly on Nov 10, 2020 0:03:21 GMT -5
YUP!
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