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Post by iamsorare on Nov 19, 2020 6:00:38 GMT -5
Huge update today and #2 on pop radio..surpass sweet but psycho
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Post by Az Paynter on Nov 19, 2020 6:39:49 GMT -5
POP: 3 2 AVA MAX Kings & Queens 16331 14784 1547 70.065
+304 Spins +126 Bullet +1.502 Audience
HOT AC: 5 5 AVA MAX Kings & Queens 4826 4471 355 22.899
+77 Spins +5 Bullet +0.411 Audience
SPINS: 3568 Spins from #1, 24kGoldn (+246)
100 Spins ahead of #3, Surf Mesa (+446)
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Post by kimberly on Nov 19, 2020 10:12:43 GMT -5
yay, we're officially past "Sweet but Psycho"s No. 3 CHR peak. here's to hoping "Kings & Queens" can surpass its peak on the Hot 100 as well.
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Post by Left Of Center on Nov 19, 2020 11:51:42 GMT -5
Sorry to be a buzzkill, but I don't get how this is heading #1, and with a 4-digit bullet at that. Sure, callouts and Shazams are good, but streams are too low. It's out of the Rolling Stone chart, never entered Billboard's streaming chart at all. It's a very minor hit, with the pop airplay of a smash
I Hope is also not a huge streamer, but it was #17 on RS last week. And yet, that one, out of the two, is about to lose its bullet
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Post by Ty on Nov 19, 2020 12:21:49 GMT -5
Sorry to be a buzzkill, but I don't get how this is heading #1, and with a 3-digit bullet at that. Sure, callouts and Shazams are good, but streams are too low. It's out of the Rolling Stone chart, never entered Billboard's streaming chart at all. It's a very minor hit, with the pop airplay of a smash I Hope is also not a huge streamer, but it was #17 on RS last week. And yet, that one, out of the two, is about to lose its bullet I'd like to think this is an organic radio hit thanks to its popularity among certain listeners. It's been doing extremely and consistently well on iTunes for a pop record. And it had been doing fine on streaming until being dropped by major playlists (partly because the song had peaked literally anywhere but in US).
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Post by kimberly on Nov 19, 2020 14:56:44 GMT -5
smash!
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Post by avatar on Nov 19, 2020 16:47:59 GMT -5
Who would of ever thought that Ava Max would be able to out-peak Sweet but Psycho on pop radio after a year hiatus from radio + a flop follow up on radio. If only the other one-hit wonder pop girls where this lucky...
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Post by G-Reg on Nov 19, 2020 16:57:43 GMT -5
Who would of ever thought that Ava Max would be able to out-peak Sweet but Psycho on pop radio after a year hiatus from radio + a flop follow up on radio. If only the other one-hit wonder pop girls where this lucky... Just came in here to say that. The fact that K&Q is able to outpeak Sweet But Psycho is crazy!
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Post by musicspy on Nov 19, 2020 17:08:18 GMT -5
Ava needs that CHR No1 just for bragging reasons. Im not sure this can reach the top 10 on the Hot 100 anymore, but its having a Delicate type of run and I love it. If that song could reach No1 then K&Q can as well. I really hope Ava Max gets bigger Worldwide and finally has a successful string of hits it the US, just like Dua Lipa
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Post by avatar on Nov 19, 2020 17:57:48 GMT -5
What two songs where ahead of SBP?
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Post by kimberly on Nov 19, 2020 18:16:50 GMT -5
What two songs where ahead of SBP? 5/19/19: 2 1 SAM SMITH & NORMANI Dancing With A Stranger 18520 17762 758 98.172 1 2 JONAS BROTHERS Sucker 18480 18816 -336 99.122 4 3 AVA MAX Sweet But Psycho 15767 15589 178 76.757
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Post by SPRΞΞ on Nov 20, 2020 4:24:16 GMT -5
Sorry to be a buzzkill, but I don't get how this is heading #1, and with a 4-digit bullet at that. Sure, callouts and Shazams are good, but streams are too low. It's out of the Rolling Stone chart, never entered Billboard's streaming chart at all. It's a very minor hit, with the pop airplay of a smash I Hope is also not a huge streamer, but it was #17 on RS last week. And yet, that one, out of the two, is about to lose its bullet Radio audience and streaming audience are two separate sets of people. Some overlap sure, of course, but still different. I’m an example of that. I don’t use Spotify and I listen to the radio. I honestly don’t know why it doesn’t have massive streaming numbers. It’s so catchy. But good callouts and sales justify its position, imo.
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Post by Az Paynter on Nov 20, 2020 6:48:58 GMT -5
POP: 3 2 AVA MAX Kings & Queens 16617 14946 1671 71.229
+286 Spins +124 Bullet +1.164 Audience
HOT AC: 5 5 AVA MAX Kings & Queens 4904 4528 376 23.232
+78 Spins +21 Bullet +0.333 Audience
SPINS: 3281 Spins from #1, 24kGoldn (+287)
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Post by kimberly on Nov 21, 2020 1:16:17 GMT -5
Callout scores got slightly worse, again. 11/13: 62.4 Positive, #13 (of 28) 40.7 Net Positive, #7 (of 28) 24.0 Favorite, #17 (of 28) 21.7 Negative, #24 (of 28) 9.7 Heavy Burn, #25 (of 28) Familiarity: 87.0% Callout scores got worse, again. Favorite score went up though so that's good. 11/20: 61.0 Positive, #25 (of 30) 37.6 Net Positive, #14 (of 30) 25.5 Favorite, #15 (of 30) 23.3 Negative, #22 (of 30) 11.1 Heavy Burn, #25 (of 30) Familiarity: 89.0%
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Post by Mazo on Nov 21, 2020 3:45:53 GMT -5
This has payola written al over it. It just happens to take off after her album was released and of all of her songs, this one.... hmm.
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Post by kimberly on Nov 21, 2020 3:54:45 GMT -5
This has payola written al over it. It just happens to take off after her album was released and of all of her songs, this one.... hmm. no
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Post by Az Paynter on Nov 21, 2020 6:57:58 GMT -5
POP: 3 2 AVA MAX Kings & Queens 16755 15178 1577 71.853
+138 Spins -94 Bullet +0.624 Audience
HOT AC: 5 4 AVA MAX Kings & Queens 4997 4380 617 23.677
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Post by #brayden on Nov 21, 2020 10:17:35 GMT -5
This has payola written al over it. It just happens to take off after her album was released and of all of her songs, this one.... hmm. Yup. It's like her label/team made enough money off all her other songs worldwide that they decided to buy a hit in the US with this one. The streaming numbers don't lie. People aren't actually into this.
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Post by wjr15 on Nov 21, 2020 14:53:56 GMT -5
Haven’t we learned by now that the streaming crowd is different than the sales & radio crowd?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2020 15:01:14 GMT -5
This did have a streaming presence early on since it was on Spotify TTH for like ages and ya'll ain't gonna come for me since I regularly report this info in this thread especially since before its single run, it never was huge on Apple Music but thats not a surprise since AM is an Urban-dominated platform
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Post by Ty on Nov 21, 2020 16:12:32 GMT -5
Mazo is that hater who insisted in other Ava threads that the only way she can get another hit is by doing Urbanpop. Now that his grand theory is proven as wrong as wrong can be, he is throwing out this payola conspiracy to save face. Together with his recent misogynic and homophobic (possibly self-hating) post in RT thread. I smell a pissed off Trump supporter.
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Post by SPRΞΞ on Nov 21, 2020 23:21:50 GMT -5
Haven’t we learned by now that the streaming crowd is different than the sales & radio crowd? exactly. Streaming crowd skews younger, sales/radio skews older. case in point: Maroon 5 - does great on sales and radio, does just ok on streaming. Ariana Grande - does great on streaming, but just ok on sales and radio.
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Post by m450n on Nov 21, 2020 23:44:36 GMT -5
This has payola written al over it. It just happens to take off after her album was released and of all of her songs, this one.... hmm. why is it that every time i see ur name its always u hating on the new generation of singers
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Post by aubryskinnygoddess on Nov 21, 2020 23:45:30 GMT -5
Haven’t we learned by now that the streaming crowd is different than the sales & radio crowd? exactly. Streaming crowd skews younger, sales/radio skews older. case in point: Maroon 5 - does great on sales and radio, does just ok on streaming. Ariana Grande - does great on streaming, but just ok on sales and radio. I wouldn’t say Ariana does just ok on radio lol didn’t she nearly have 3 songs in the pop top ten twice
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Post by SPRΞΞ on Nov 21, 2020 23:54:57 GMT -5
exactly. Streaming crowd skews younger, sales/radio skews older. case in point: Maroon 5 - does great on sales and radio, does just ok on streaming. Ariana Grande - does great on streaming, but just ok on sales and radio. I wouldn’t say Ariana does just ok on radio lol didn’t she nearly have 3 songs in the pop top ten twice not on this album she doesn't. Even Rain on Me just got to #10.
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Post by aubryskinnygoddess on Nov 21, 2020 23:57:13 GMT -5
I wouldn’t say Ariana does just ok on radio lol didn’t she nearly have 3 songs in the pop top ten twice not on this album she doesn't. Even Rain on Me just got to #10. u mean the album that came out two weeks ago? And rain on me is first of all a lady Gaga song
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Post by SPRΞΞ on Nov 22, 2020 0:06:03 GMT -5
not on this album she doesn't. Even Rain on Me just got to #10. u mean the album that came out two weeks ago? And rain on me is first of all a lady Gaga song yes, the album that came out two weeks ago. I highly doubt 34+35 is going to get any where's near the Top 10. Positions isn't exactly smashing on the radio, either, and it's what...#29 on iTunes? That's terrible for her lead single. She even got blocked from #1 from a Trump supporter.
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Post by aubryskinnygoddess on Nov 22, 2020 0:14:36 GMT -5
u mean the album that came out two weeks ago? And rain on me is first of all a lady Gaga song yes, the album that came out two weeks ago. I highly doubt 34+35 is going to get any where's near the Top 10. Positions isn't exactly smashing on the radio, either. It’s #11 after 3 weeks that’s amazing , don’t forget radio is very slow
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Post by Au$tin on Nov 22, 2020 0:55:55 GMT -5
So, like, it's a cute song with a nice message, but I can't be the only one that cringes at the sword/penis and chess metaphors. They're so cheesy.
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Post by Mazo on Nov 22, 2020 1:44:19 GMT -5
The song is cheesy.
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