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Post by vithor on Aug 6, 2020 22:37:37 GMT -5
That remix was... A lot to digest. Whose idea was this? And I say this as someone who likes all artists involved, it just sounds messy, especially Lauv's verse.
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Post by Az Paynter on Aug 7, 2020 6:08:21 GMT -5
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Post by Normi on Aug 7, 2020 6:13:02 GMT -5
No to that remix, srsly what is her team doing WLN came out just last week
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Post by iamsorare on Aug 7, 2020 11:40:02 GMT -5
I like the remix.if the radio doesn't pick it up then it's over..
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2020 12:27:54 GMT -5
That remix was... A lot to digest. Whose idea was this? And I say this as someone who likes all artists involved, it just sounds messy, especially Lauv's verse. Yeah the mixing on his verse felt really off On top of that his part just felt awkward a bit
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Post by avatar on Aug 7, 2020 13:18:10 GMT -5
This is the most desperate thing I have seen today.
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Post by Ty on Aug 7, 2020 13:48:15 GMT -5
iTunes: #31 (original) & #58 (Lauv & Saweetie remix) Spotify: #161 (238,326)
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Post by Az Paynter on Aug 8, 2020 6:11:12 GMT -5
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Post by chartfreak on Aug 8, 2020 9:32:09 GMT -5
So are they pushing this along with Laughing Now?
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Post by GrinningLikeADevil on Aug 8, 2020 10:36:53 GMT -5
Ugh I wish this was doing a bit better. The remix is strange, Lauvβs part sounds really off but Saweetieβs verse is excellent. Really wish they had cut Lauv tbh.
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Post by Az Paynter on Aug 9, 2020 6:07:04 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2020 11:31:34 GMT -5
#31 on iTunes #45 on iTunes (remix version) #164 on Spotify #513 on Apple Music
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Post by divasummer on Aug 9, 2020 14:22:27 GMT -5
I guess I'm in the minority here because the remix got me into the song. I didn't hate the song originally but it was a little to "pop"? for me perhaps. It reminded me of something GaGa would have done on her 1st album but even poppier sounding.
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Post by chartfreak on Aug 9, 2020 14:30:28 GMT -5
I guess I'm in the minority here because the remix got me into the song. I didn't hate the song originally but it was a little to "pop"? for me perhaps. It reminded me of something GaGa would have done on her 1st album but even poppier sounding. U Why radio should play this , because I think the POPPIER sound has been missing from radio.
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Post by Az Paynter on Aug 10, 2020 6:19:01 GMT -5
Ouchhhh, was last week more than just AT40 then?
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Post by levitating on Aug 10, 2020 16:04:11 GMT -5
donβt understand why this is stalling... itβs doing great on itunes
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Post by avatar on Aug 10, 2020 16:11:27 GMT -5
donβt understand why this is stalling... itβs doing great on itunes Cause radio only likes to play TikTok hits. :(
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Post by mrmike855 on Aug 10, 2020 17:03:24 GMT -5
donβt understand why this is stalling... itβs doing great on itunes Because itunes doesn't matter. During some of these last few weeks, the best selling songs on iTunes were selling less than 20,000 per week, and "Kings and Queens" is around 30, likely meaning it's selling a few thousand per week. Those numbers are tiny compared to even radio audiences. They care far more about Spotify numbers, and sure they're fine, but not great.
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Post by vithor on Aug 10, 2020 17:18:50 GMT -5
donβt understand why this is stalling... itβs doing great on itunes Because itunes doesn't matter. During some of these last few weeks, the best selling songs on iTunes were selling less than 20,000 per week, and "Kings and Queens" is around 30, likely meaning it's selling a few thousand per week. Those numbers are tiny compared to even radio audiences. They care far more about Spotify numbers, and sure they're fine, but not great. Well, that is also some clear double standards. "Drinks", for instance, was taken to top 30 easily even being nowhere to be found on Spotify, Apple Music, iTunes charts, the video has only 2 million views. This has a much stronger force on sales and streaming and yet is still struggling around 200 spins behind #30. And I'm not aware of any kind of on the verge deal for "Drinks" or anything alike.
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Post by levitating on Aug 10, 2020 17:40:39 GMT -5
donβt understand why this is stalling... itβs doing great on itunes Because itunes doesn't matter. During some of these last few weeks, the best selling songs on iTunes were selling less than 20,000 per week, and "Kings and Queens" is around 30, likely meaning it's selling a few thousand per week. Those numbers are tiny compared to even radio audiences. They care far more about Spotify numbers, and sure they're fine, but not great. Well it's top 10 on iTunes both versions combined and #162 on Spotify with multiple albums ahead of it which isn't too bad for a female pop song with limited exposure or playlisting. Also it has in fact gained some traction on tik tok relating to what avatar mentioned which is even more of a reason to play it. The GP has clearly shown at least a bit of interest in this song and there's no reason for radio to drop it this soon, I would say this deserves to go top 30 at least.
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Post by π‘πππππ€ on Aug 10, 2020 18:33:02 GMT -5
Because itunes doesn't matter. During some of these last few weeks, the best selling songs on iTunes were selling less than 20,000 per week, and "Kings and Queens" is around 30, likely meaning it's selling a few thousand per week. Those numbers are tiny compared to even radio audiences. They care far more about Spotify numbers, and sure they're fine, but not great. Well, that is also some clear double standards. "Drinks", for instance, was taken to top 30 easily even being nowhere to be found on Spotify, Apple Music, iTunes charts, the video has only 2 million views. This has a much stronger force on sales and streaming and yet is still struggling around 200 spins behind #30. And I'm not aware of any kind of on the verge deal for "Drinks" or anything alike. off the top of my head, I know CYN created a social media βDrinks challengeβ for radio PDs. She played the radio pr game well, which is why (I think) βDrinksβ got as high as it did.
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Post by Joe1240 on Aug 10, 2020 23:29:41 GMT -5
This song is Ava Max's best since "Torn". This song took awhile to grow on me to like it. Great Dance Pop song to listen to at the moment. If Ava Max has other songs like this on her upcoming album, She could end up with another hit on her hands.
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Post by mrmike855 on Aug 10, 2020 23:40:51 GMT -5
Because itunes doesn't matter. During some of these last few weeks, the best selling songs on iTunes were selling less than 20,000 per week, and "Kings and Queens" is around 30, likely meaning it's selling a few thousand per week. Those numbers are tiny compared to even radio audiences. They care far more about Spotify numbers, and sure they're fine, but not great. Well, that is also some clear double standards. "Drinks", for instance, was taken to top 30 easily even being nowhere to be found on Spotify, Apple Music, iTunes charts, the video has only 2 million views. This has a much stronger force on sales and streaming and yet is still struggling around 200 spins behind #30. And I'm not aware of any kind of on the verge deal for "Drinks" or anything alike. I had no idea what was going on with Cyn's "Drinks". Yeah, that's crap that it made it so high while "Kings and Queens" is struggling. I want this song to do well. It's just that a song doing relatively well on iTunes doesn't mean what it meant 7 years ago, it's numbers on Spotify are also certainly more relevant
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Post by Naos on Aug 11, 2020 2:51:59 GMT -5
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Post by Au$tin on Aug 11, 2020 3:02:27 GMT -5
Well, that is also some clear double standards. "Drinks", for instance, was taken to top 30 easily even being nowhere to be found on Spotify, Apple Music, iTunes charts, the video has only 2 million views. This has a much stronger force on sales and streaming and yet is still struggling around 200 spins behind #30. And I'm not aware of any kind of on the verge deal for "Drinks" or anything alike. off the top of my head, I know CYN created a social media βDrinks challengeβ for radio PDs. She played the radio pr game well, which is why (I think) βDrinksβ got as high as it did. Yeah, people always forget that radio is its own separate entity from digital sales and streaming. It has its own unique demographic of consumers, for one. Sure there's going to be some overlap, but not 100%. And there are teams specifically for each record label/artist running radio campaigns. These teams are completely separate from the teams working the streaming/social media game most usually. CYN had a great team working her at radio. They've actually been pushing that one hard for several months. It should be no surprise to anyone at this point that Ava's radio team is not very good at American campaigns.
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Post by kimberly on Aug 11, 2020 3:09:42 GMT -5
off the top of my head, I know CYN created a social media βDrinks challengeβ for radio PDs. She played the radio pr game well, which is why (I think) βDrinksβ got as high as it did. It should be no surprise to anyone at this point that Ava's radio team is not very good at American campaigns.
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Post by Az Paynter on Aug 11, 2020 6:19:07 GMT -5
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Post by Ty on Aug 12, 2020 7:32:46 GMT -5
#17 on iTunes! (Remix on #56)
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