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Post by kierz7 on Jul 19, 2020 11:04:22 GMT -5
According to spicy's and cedric's predictions it looks like Circles may have entered the top 10 for a 40th week if it wasn't for the Juice album bomb. Airplay is truly carrying this. 💀 Then again, how is it looking with regards to it’s streams. |
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Post by Soulsista on Jul 19, 2020 11:06:15 GMT -5
Billboard Top 10 from 35, 30, 25, and 20 years ago:
July 27, 1985
01 03 Everytime You Go Away - Paul Young (1st and only week at #1)
02 09 Shout - Tears For Fears
03 04 You Give Good Love - Whitney Houston
04 01 A View To a Kill - Duran Duran
05 07 If You Love Somebody Set Them Free - Sting
06 08 Glory Days - Bruce Springsteen
07 02 Rapsberry Beret - Prince & The Revolution
08 12 Sentimental Street - Night Ranger
09 13 Never Surrender - Corey Hart
10 14 Get It On (Bang a Gong) - The Power Station
July 28, 1990
01 01 She Ain't Worth It - Glenn Medeiros feat. Bobby Brown (2nd and final week at #1)
02 05 Vision Of Love - Mariah Carey
03 03 Cradle Of Love - Billy Idol
04 04 Rub You The Right Way - Johnny Gill
05 02 Hold On - En Vogue
06 07 The Power - Snap!
07 08 Girls Nite Out - Tyler Collins
08 10 When I'm Back On My Feet Again - Michael Bolton
09 09 Enjoy The Silence - Depeche Mode
10 17 Hanky Panky - Madonna
July 29, 1995
01 01 Waterfalls - TLC (4th of 7 weeks at #1)
02 02 One More Chance / Stay With Me - The Notorious B.I.G.
03 03 Don't Take It Personal (Just One Of Dem Days) - Monica
04 08 Boombastic - Shaggy
05 12 Kiss From a Rose - Seal
06 07 I Can Love You Like That - All-4-One
07 04 Water Runs Dry - Boyz II Men
08 05 Total Eclipse Of The Heart - Nicki French
09 06 Have You Ever Really Loved a Woman? - Bryan Adams
10 10 Run-Around - Blues Traveler
July 22, 2000
01 06 Bent - Matchbox Twenty (1st and only week at #1)
02 01 Everything You Want - Vertical Horizon
03 02 Try Again - Aaliyah
04 05 It's Gonna Be Me - *NSYNC
05 04 I Wanna Know - Joe
06 11 Absolutely (Story Of a Girl) - Nine Days
07 09 Higher - Creed
08 10 There You Go - P!nk
09 08 The Real Slim Shady - Eminem
10 07 I Turn To You - Christina Aguilera
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Post by cedric on Jul 19, 2020 11:27:22 GMT -5
According to spicy's and cedric's predictions it looks like Circles may have entered the top 10 for a 40th week if it wasn't for the Juice album bomb. Airplay is truly carrying this. 💀 Then again, how is it looking with regards to it’s streams. I have it at around #50 with airplay removed, #32 without the album bomb |
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Post by Soulsista on Jul 19, 2020 11:28:00 GMT -5
Billboard Top 10 Flashback:
July 23, 2005
01 01 We Belong Together - Mariah Carey (7th of 14 weeks at #1)
02 02 Hollaback Girl - Gwen Stefani
03 03 Don't Phunk With My Heart - The Black Eyed Peas
04 07 Don't Cha - The Pussycat Dolls feat. Busta Rhymes
05 09 Pon De Replay - Rihanna
06 10 Lose Control - Missy Elliott feat. Ciara & Fatman Scoop
07 08 Behind These Hazel Eyes - Kelly Clarkson
08 06 Just a Lil Bit - 50 Cent
09 11 Grind With Me - Pretty Ricky
10 04 Inside Your Heaven - Carrie Underwood
14 33 These Boots Are Made For Walkin' - Jessica Simpson
July 24, 2010
01 01 California Gurls - Katy Perry feat. Snoop Dogg (6th and final week at #1)
02 02 Love The Way You Lie - Eminem feat. Rihanna
03 04 Airplanes - B.o.B. feat. Hayley Williams
04 03 OMG - Usher feat. will.i.am
05 05 Billionaire - Travie McCoy feat. Bruno Mars
06 07 Dynamite - Taio Cruz
07 06 Cooler Than Me - Mike Posner feat. Big Sean
08 18 I Like It - Enrique Iglesias feat. Pitbull
09 08 Find Your Love - Drake
10 09 Ridin' Solo - Jason Derulo
July 25, 2015
01 02 Cheerleader - OMI (1st of 6 weeks at #1)
02 01 See You Again - Wiz Khalifa feat. Charlie Puth
03 06 Can't Feel My Face - The Weeknd
04 04 Bad Blood - Taylor Swift feat. Kendrick Lamar
05 03 Watch Me (Whip/Nae Nae) - Silento
06 05 Trap Queen - Fetty Wap
07 07 Shut Up And Dance - Walk The Moon
08 10 Fight Song - Rachel Platten
09 08 Where Are U Now - Skrillex & Diplo feat. Justin Bieber
10 09 Hey Mama - David Guetta feat. Nicki Minaj & Afrojack
July 27, 2019
01 01 Old Town Road - Lil Nas X feat. Billy Ray Cyrus (16th of 19 weeks at #1)
02 02 bad guy - Billie Eilish
03 06 I Don't Care - Ed Sheeran & Justin Bieber
04 05 Señorita - Shawn Mendes & Camila Cabello
05 04 Talk - Khalid
06 07 Truth Hurts - Lizzo
07 03 Goodbyes - Post Malone feat. Young Thug
08 08 Sucker - The Jonas Brothers
09 09 Sunflower - Post Malone & Swae Lee
10 12 No Guidance - Chris Brown feat. Drake
19 40 Beautiful People - Ed Sheeran feat. Khalid
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Post by kierz7 on Jul 19, 2020 11:46:39 GMT -5
Your assessment of Billboard is exaggerated and even inaccurate in some cases. For starters, airplay wasn't the only thing measured from 2001-2005, physical sales were as well, they were just really low, and pop songs did enter the top 10, just not as frequently because R&B/Hip-Hop was just overall much more popular on radio back then. Sure there were rare cases like “Beautiful” peaking at #2 or “Toxic” peaking at #9, but some would argue those peaks were low for how big of hits those songs were (“Bump Bump Bump” at #1?). Other metrics should’ve been added on the Hot 100 back then. Why did Billboard completely ignore counting music videos back then? B2K’s “Bump, Bump, Bump” deservedly hit #1 on the Hot 100 over “Beautiful” at the time, thus this narrative that the song somehow unfairly out-peaked a “stronger” song is false. “Bump, Bump, Bump”. •Rhythmic #1 •Urban #2 •Pop #3 =111M AI Peak “Beautiful”. •Pop #1 •Rhythmic #13 •HAC #19 =95M AI Peak Now, let’s take a look at recurrent streams in 2020. YouTube. •Beautiful: 122M •Bump, Bump, Bump: 107M “Beautiful” has more streams on Spotify, but that’s largely due to heavy playlisting which B2K’s music is practically non-existent for on the service, and given they disbanded as a group in 2004. |
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Post by annoymous1 on Jul 19, 2020 11:55:27 GMT -5
That 2015 top 10 has me feeling Nostalgic.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2020 14:07:28 GMT -5
Damn, I came here looking for Simon predicts, then I remembered 😔
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Post by kcdawg13 on Jul 19, 2020 14:37:26 GMT -5
It's funny how we are getting closer and closer to Circles being in the Top 10 flashback
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Post by thegreatdivine on Jul 19, 2020 16:33:55 GMT -5
| Album | Artist | Day 1 | Day 2 | Day 3 | Day 4 | Day 5 | Day 6 | Day 7 | | Carter V | Lil Wayne | 49,469,116 | 30,039,134 | 19,224,681 | 21,322,277 | 18,209,086 | 15,989,633 | 14,141,864 | | Legends Never Die | Juice WRLD | 47,849,132 | 30,786,059 | 23,133,726 | 22,473,754 | - | - | - |
124,242,671 US streams from Spotify in 4 days. If it holds steady at 22,500,000 for the next 3 days, that'll bring it to 191,742,671 US streams from Spotify alone for the week. If it pulls 200 million streams from Apple Music, that's just under 400 million streams from two streaming services. It should surpass Tha Carter V's record, but I keep feeling like it'll miss it by just a tiny bit. I hope I'm wrong. Welp. Tha Carter V: 433 million streams. Legends Never Die: 422 million streams. |
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Post by fhas on Jul 19, 2020 17:09:24 GMT -5
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Post by fhas on Jul 19, 2020 17:55:09 GMT -5
with Falling at #1 on Top 40 radio and #33 in my prediction for this week's Hot 100, it might break a few "records".
#1 on Top 40 with a #17 peak on the Hot 100
#1 on Top 40 with a #33 rank on the Hot 100
#1 on Top 40 with a #13 rank on Radio Songs
#1 on Top 40 with 96% of its audience coming from that format
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Post by Choco on Jul 19, 2020 18:12:18 GMT -5
“Beautiful” needed only 8,000 copies sold of a physical single for it to have hit #1 the week it was #2. Shame they didn’t release one in the U.S. Since the Britney fans are in here are claiming “I’m a Slave 4 U” would’ve hit #1 if YouTube existed, you know damn well “Dirrty” would’ve hit #1 for several weeks, since it had more airplay and the video was more controversial. In their defense pop wasn't that hot at the time. They had an uphill battle on the charts and the labels weren't exploiting the chart rules in the way we're now getting used to. Britney in particular got blacklisted on radio during the album cycle for "Slave". She didn't have downloads during "Toxic" because they were not counted on the Hot 100 at that point, even if the song apparently sold well. As for Xtina, I'm always shocked at how low Dirrty peaked. Big pop culture moment. The rest of the era's peaks make a lot more sense. Beautiful felt like a #1 hit, shame there was no physical release to help it. |
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Post by kcdawg13 on Jul 19, 2020 18:42:11 GMT -5
Just listened to Come & Go for the first time and somebody should've told me it bopped this hard
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Post by 85la on Jul 19, 2020 18:44:06 GMT -5
Sure there were rare cases like “Beautiful” peaking at #2 or “Toxic” peaking at #9, but some would argue those peaks were low for how big of hits those songs were (“Bump Bump Bump” at #1?). Other metrics should’ve been added on the Hot 100 back then. Why did Billboard completely ignore counting music videos back then? B2K’s “Bump, Bump, Bump” deservedly hit #1 on the Hot 100 over “Beautiful” at the time, thus this narrative that the song somehow unfairly out-peaked a “stronger” song is false. “Bump, Bump, Bump”. •Rhythmic #1 •Urban #2 •Pop #3 =111M AI Peak “Beautiful”. •Pop #1 •Rhythmic #13 •HAC #19 =95M AI Peak Now, let’s take a look at recurrent streams in 2020. YouTube.
•Beautiful: 122M
•Bump, Bump, Bump: 107M “Beautiful” has more streams on Spotify, but that’s largely due to heavy playlisting which B2K’s music is practically non-existent for on the service, and given they disbanded as a group in 2004. Yes, I absolutely agree that Bump, Bump, Bump deserved #1 at the time because it simply had more airplay and overall points, but in terms of ensuing popularity and cultural prominence throughout time, to me at least it seems that there can be no question that Beautiful is absolutely the more memorable song (though if anyone disagrees feel free...). That is why those YouTube numbers are especially shocking. I'd be interested in seeing overall streaming numbers, as well as digital sales and recurrent airplay. |
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Post by thelegends on Jul 19, 2020 20:16:47 GMT -5
B2K’s “Bump, Bump, Bump” deservedly hit #1 on the Hot 100 over “Beautiful” at the time, thus this narrative that the song somehow unfairly out-peaked a “stronger” song is false. “Bump, Bump, Bump”. •Rhythmic #1 •Urban #2 •Pop #3 =111M AI Peak “Beautiful”. •Pop #1 •Rhythmic #13 •HAC #19 =95M AI Peak Now, let’s take a look at recurrent streams in 2020. YouTube.
•Beautiful: 122M
•Bump, Bump, Bump: 107M “Beautiful” has more streams on Spotify, but that’s largely due to heavy playlisting which B2K’s music is practically non-existent for on the service, and given they disbanded as a group in 2004. Yes, I absolutely agree that Bump, Bump, Bump deserved #1 at the time because it simply had more airplay and overall points, but in terms of ensuing popularity and cultural prominence throughout time, to me at least it seems that there can be no question that Beautiful is absolutely the more memorable song (though if anyone disagrees feel free...). That is why those YouTube numbers are especially shocking. I'd be interested in seeing overall streaming numbers, as well as digital sales and recurrent airplay. The remix with Diddy has over 100m streams on Spotify. |
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Post by forg on Jul 19, 2020 22:18:44 GMT -5
The 2000s flashback is so nostalgic, the back to back #1 for Everything You Want and Bent was glorious for me. Love both songs
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Post by 85la on Jul 19, 2020 22:27:00 GMT -5
^ Diddy was on the original, I don't think there was a remix (an interesting side note, R. Kelly co-wrote and co-produced the song).
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Post by phieaglesfan712 on Jul 19, 2020 22:28:56 GMT -5
Billboard Top 10 from 35, 30, 25, and 20 years ago: July 27, 198501 03 Everytime You Go Away - Paul Young (1st and only week at #1)02 09 Shout - Tears For Fears 03 04 You Give Good Love - Whitney Houston 04 01 A View To a Kill - Duran Duran 05 07 If You Love Somebody Set Them Free - Sting 06 08 Glory Days - Bruce Springsteen 07 02 Rapsberry Beret - Prince & The Revolution 08 12 Sentimental Street - Night Ranger 09 13 Never Surrender - Corey Hart 10 14 Get It On (Bang a Gong) - The Power Station My brother's birth chart. I'm guessing that Shout goes to #1 the next week, and stays there for a while. |
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Post by garrettlen on Jul 20, 2020 0:13:53 GMT -5
Billboard Top 10 from 35, 30, 25, and 20 years ago: July 27, 198501 03 Everytime You Go Away - Paul Young (1st and only week at #1)02 09 Shout - Tears For Fears 03 04 You Give Good Love - Whitney Houston 04 01 A View To a Kill - Duran Duran 05 07 If You Love Somebody Set Them Free - Sting 06 08 Glory Days - Bruce Springsteen 07 02 Rapsberry Beret - Prince & The Revolution 08 12 Sentimental Street - Night Ranger 09 13 Never Surrender - Corey Hart 10 14 Get It On (Bang a Gong) - The Power Station My brother's birth chart. I'm guessing that Shout goes to #1 the next week, and stays there for a while. 3 weeks (Aug 3rd, Aug 10th, Aug 17th). |
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Post by thelegends on Jul 20, 2020 6:37:20 GMT -5
I wonder something, why doesn’t Taylor Swift’s “The Man” have an explicit tag next to it on Spotify even though it has more cuss words than “Greece” and “Codeine Dreaming” (Both have explicit tags)?
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Post by kierz7 on Jul 20, 2020 6:44:36 GMT -5
B2K’s “Bump, Bump, Bump” deservedly hit #1 on the Hot 100 over “Beautiful” at the time, thus this narrative that the song somehow unfairly out-peaked a “stronger” song is false. “Bump, Bump, Bump”. •Rhythmic #1 •Urban #2 •Pop #3 =111M AI Peak “Beautiful”. •Pop #1 •Rhythmic #13 •HAC #19 =95M AI Peak Now, let’s take a look at recurrent streams in 2020. YouTube.
•Beautiful: 122M
•Bump, Bump, Bump: 107M “Beautiful” has more streams on Spotify, but that’s largely due to heavy playlisting which B2K’s music is practically non-existent for on the service, and given they disbanded as a group in 2004. Yes, I absolutely agree that Bump, Bump, Bump deserved #1 at the time because it simply had more airplay and overall points, but in terms of ensuing popularity and cultural prominence throughout time, to me at least it seems that there can be no question that Beautiful is absolutely the more memorable song (though if anyone disagrees feel free...). That is why those YouTube numbers are especially shocking. I'd be interested in seeing overall streaming numbers, as well as digital sales and recurrent airplay. Spotify WW (as of July 2020). •Bump, Bump, Bump: 102.8M •Beautiful: 174.2M Digital Downloads/Sales WW (as of December 2018). •Bump, Bump, Bump: 1.2M •Beautiful: 2.5M “Beautiful”, of course, is the more culturally impactful song but the stats. between it and “Bump, Bump, Bump” are nowhere near as vast as most people would presume. “Beautiful” has more Spotify streams due to heavier playlisting, particularly in ‘throwback’ playlists, whereas “Bump, Bump, Bump” has virtually none and yet the latter still has over 100M streams. Also, “Bump, Bump, Bump” still garners a lot of recurrent Airplay on Urban stations in some markets, even in 2020. “Beautiful” was certainly a big hit, but many like to assume that the song that blocked it in the U.S (which was also a big hit) is ‘supremely forgotten’ which, literally, is not the case at all. |
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Post by Abbaschand on Jul 20, 2020 7:36:16 GMT -5
Did this year's BBMA got canceled? There are no new dates for it so far...
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Post by thegreatdivine on Jul 20, 2020 8:11:34 GMT -5
Did this year's BBMA got canceled? There are no new dates for it so far... They cancelled the previous date but they haven't announced any new dates yet. |
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on Jul 20, 2020 10:22:02 GMT -5
kworb's Billboard Radio Songs Estimates 2020/07/20
1(=) The Weeknd - Blinding Lights 141.84(-1.23)
2(=) Harry Styles - Adore You 125.79(+0.53)
3(=) DaBaby - ROCKSTAR (feat. Roddy Ricch) 108.87(+1.09)
4(=) Dua Lipa - Break My Heart 102.90(+1.73)
5(=) Megan Thee Stallion - Savage Remix (feat. Beyoncé) 98.42(-1.41)
6(=) SAINt JHN - Roses (Imanbek Remix) 97.08(-0.11)
7(+1) Harry Styles - Watermelon Sugar 96.58(+1.65)
8(-1) Post Malone - Circles 95.05(-0.05)
9(=) Dua Lipa - Don't Start Now 93.34(-0.82)
10(=) Justin Bieber - Intentions (feat. Quavo) 86.70(-0.61)
18(=) Jack Harlow - WHATS POPPIN (Remix) [feat. DaBaby, Tory Lanez & Lil Wayne] 65.90(+1.04) 23(+1) Miranda Lambert - Bluebird 55.13(+0.68) 30(+2) Maddie & Tae - Die From A Broken Heart 46.78(+0.88) 31(=) BENEE - Supalonely (feat. Gus Dapperton) 46.60(+0.66)
68(+2) Trevor Daniel & Selena Gomez - Past Life 24.88(+0.71)
71(+6) Jawsh 685 X Jason Derulo - Savage Love (Laxed-Siren Beat) 24.23(+1.94)
88(+1) Megan Thee Stallion - Girls in the Hood 19.41(+0.57)
89(+6) Prince Royce - Carita De Inocente 18.77(+0.69) -(-) Trey Songz - Back Home f/Summer Walker 15.75(+2.76) +
-(-) DJ Khaled - POPSTAR (feat. Drake) 14.22(+2.05)
-(-) Bad Bunny - La Dificil 13.20(+0.80) -(-) DJ Khaled - GREECE (feat. Drake) 12.43(+1.68)
-(-) Pop Smoke - The Woo (feat. 50 Cent & Roddy Ricch) 9.64(+4.74) + -(-) Surf Mesa - ily (i love you baby) [feat. Emilee] 6.70(+0.64)
-(-) Tainy & J Balvin - Aqua 5.84(+0.95)
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Post by Gary on Jul 20, 2020 10:25:18 GMT -5
Did this year's BBMA got canceled? There are no new dates for it so far... They cancelled the previous date but they haven't announced any new dates yet. The funny thing about that - this also holds up the "big reveal" of the Artist of The Decade top 6 |
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Jul 20, 2020 10:31:38 GMT -5
We are talking about Thriller, a Halloween song, in July? Never change, Pulse... Not bad for a song released in January and peaked in March, if I’m not mistaken. When is Hallowe’en again? |
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Post by annoymous1 on Jul 20, 2020 10:37:39 GMT -5
Watermelon Sugar is coming for Top 5.
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Post by thegreatdivine on Jul 20, 2020 11:09:00 GMT -5
They cancelled the previous date but they haven't announced any new dates yet. The funny thing about that - this also holds up the "big reveal" of the Artist of The Decade top 6 I mean, don't we already know who is #1-#6? They just haven't made the announcement official yet. |
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