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Post by theseanyg on Jul 29, 2020 20:38:44 GMT -5
Who’s going to help me with 69 Boyz? I don’t want that last at all... Oh it will be high on mine for sure. I would be angry if that was 100. Just not number 1 for sure for me, I can’t have another Number 1 go out at number 100 again.
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Post by Unhinged on Jul 30, 2020 15:20:43 GMT -5
Is there any way we can get a preference revealer-friendly list without numbers? Sure thing, it’s been added to the original post.
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Post by weaver on Jul 30, 2020 15:45:49 GMT -5
Is there any way we can get a preference revealer-friendly list without numbers? Sure thing, it’s been added to the original post. Thank you!!
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Post by CF15 on Aug 2, 2020 15:53:30 GMT -5
Who’s going to help me with 69 Boyz? I don’t want that last at all... Oh it will be high on mine for sure. I would be angry if that was 100. Just not number 1 for sure for me, I can’t have another Number 1 go out at number 100 again. I don't think "Tootsie Roll" is good, but it's at least somewhat listenable. There's definitely much worse on here that's more deserving of last place. With that said, I do expect it to be in the bottom ten, and I have absolutely no problem with that, even though it likely won't be in my bottom ten. I hope the last place song can be something like "Never Lie" - a nasty combination of boring music and unpleasant vocals.
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Post by CF15 on Aug 2, 2020 20:49:32 GMT -5
I've ranked every song, but I'll hold off on my submission until I am satisfied with where I ranked everything, as I won't be able to make edits after submitting. In the mean time, here are some airplay-only hits that never charted on the Hot 100, due to the rule in place at the time for singles to chart:
I think this one peaked at #2 for a while on Pop Songs behind "The Sign"...
Surprised this only peaked at #22... And I had no idea the video reached a billion views. I imagine that, even if this had charted on the Hot 100, it would only be able to make the year-end chart for 1995, due to it being released in September 1994.
This would definitely have been in my top five... It actually peaked in the top ten on Pop Songs.
These peaked lower on the airplay chart, but I still think they're noteworthy mentions: I originally forgot to include these two.
This year's airplay-only hits were particularly strong. Such a shame they never were able to chart on the Hot 100. :( Feel free to mention any others I may have missed!
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Post by anthony11554 on Aug 3, 2020 11:51:15 GMT -5
is the janet jacson song u added on the prevence revealer list
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Post by Unhinged on Aug 4, 2020 12:03:24 GMT -5
is the janet jacson song u added on the prevence revealer list Yes.
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Post by Doc Indie Party Rock on Aug 5, 2020 1:07:34 GMT -5
CF15whoa. What insane rule was that about HOT 100, because as far as I remember most of those were actual singles. BTW I was no longer following Hot 100 charts in the 90's anymore. I just knew what the big hits were through 91x and MTV.
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Post by Unhinged on Aug 5, 2020 8:14:10 GMT -5
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Post by CF15 on Aug 5, 2020 11:35:07 GMT -5
CF15whoa. What insane rule was that about HOT 100, because as far as I remember most of those were actual singles. BTW I was no longer following Hot 100 charts in the 90's anymore. I just knew what the big hits were through 91x and MTV. The rule was that only singles that were available for sale (as a single) were eligible to chart on the Hot 100. Some artists never released those singles for sale (opting for more album sales) so those were singles only for radio airplay and never available for purchase as stand-alone singles, and hence weren't eligible to chart on the Hot 100. This rule was in place until the end of 1998, when Billboard finally started to allow airplay-only singles to chart. This was when "Iris" debuted at #9, but that was some time after its peak. It's arguably the biggest ever hit in the US to not have been released for sale as a single, having spent 18 weeks at #1 on Billboard's airplay chart (the most of any song, until 2020). I do wonder just how big of a Hot 100 hit "Iris" could have been. tl;dr - Yes, those songs I posted earlier were singles released to radio, but they were never available as singles to purchase.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2020 13:00:50 GMT -5
CF15 whoa. What insane rule was that about HOT 100, because as far as I remember most of those were actual singles. BTW I was no longer following Hot 100 charts in the 90's anymore. I just knew what the big hits were through 91x and MTV. The rule was that only singles that were available for sale (as a single) were eligible to chart on the Hot 100. Some artists never released those singles for sale (opting for more album sales) so those were singles only for radio airplay and never available for purchase as stand-alone singles, and hence weren't eligible to chart on the Hot 100. This rule was in place until the end of 1998, when Billboard finally started to allow airplay-only singles to chart. This was when "Iris" debuted at #9, but that was some time after its peak. It's arguably the biggest ever hit in the US to not have been released for sale as a single, having spent 18 weeks at #1 on Billboard's airplay chart (the most of any song, as of today). I do wonder just how big of a Hot 100 hit "Iris" could have been. tl;dr - Yes, those songs I posted earlier were singles released to radio, but they were never available as singles to purchase. I feel like Iris would have been 1 for like 10 weeks during some time of The Boy Is Mines last weeks at one and then 1 during One Week and The First Nights weeks maybe and 2 of Aerosmiths weeks. I think that Aerosmith with I Don't Want To Miss A Thing would have been 1 in between Irises 1 runs for 2 weeks, something like that. Torn which was also a big hit of 1998 could have had some of Too Closes weeks at 1 as well. If they had charted they would have definitely been top 5 of the year. Oops, just realized that I got off topic with this, my bad.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2020 21:45:40 GMT -5
The rule was that only singles that were available for sale (as a single) were eligible to chart on the Hot 100. Some artists never released those singles for sale (opting for more album sales) so those were singles only for radio airplay and never available for purchase as stand-alone singles, and hence weren't eligible to chart on the Hot 100. This rule was in place until the end of 1998, when Billboard finally started to allow airplay-only singles to chart. This was when "Iris" debuted at #9, but that was some time after its peak. It's arguably the biggest ever hit in the US to not have been released for sale as a single, having spent 18 weeks at #1 on Billboard's airplay chart (the most of any song, as of today). I do wonder just how big of a Hot 100 hit "Iris" could have been. tl;dr - Yes, those songs I posted earlier were singles released to radio, but they were never available as singles to purchase. I feel like Iris would have been 1 for like 10 weeks during some time of The Boy Is Mines last weeks at one and then 1 during One Week and The First Nights weeks maybe and 2 of Aerosmiths weeks. I think that Aerosmith with I Don't Want To Miss A Thing would have been 1 in between Irises 1 runs for 2 weeks, something like that. Torn which was also a big hit of 1998 could have had some of Too Closes weeks at 1 as well. If they had charted they would have definitely been top 5 of the year. Oops, just realized that I got off topic with this, my bad. Gosh, that rule was stupid. Then again, why couldn't the label have just issued physical singles either for a limited time or only to sell on tour?
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Post by weaver on Aug 6, 2020 7:35:50 GMT -5
CF15whoa. What insane rule was that about HOT 100, because as far as I remember most of those were actual singles. BTW I was no longer following Hot 100 charts in the 90's anymore. I just knew what the big hits were through 91x and MTV. The rule was that only singles that were available for sale (as a single) were eligible to chart on the Hot 100. Some artists never released those singles for sale (opting for more album sales) so those were singles only for radio airplay and never available for purchase as stand-alone singles, and hence weren't eligible to chart on the Hot 100. This rule was in place until the end of 1998, when Billboard finally started to allow airplay-only singles to chart. This was when "Iris" debuted at #9, but that was some time after its peak. It's arguably the biggest ever hit in the US to not have been released for sale as a single, having spent 18 weeks at #1 on Billboard's airplay chart (the most of any song, as of today). I do wonder just how big of a Hot 100 hit "Iris" could have been. tl;dr - Yes, those songs I posted earlier were singles released to radio, but they were never available as singles to purchase. This is such an odd/interesting time for the Hot 100. I think it was all about maximum profit for record labels, as far as not releasing physical singles. I have no clue why Billboard didn't adjust this policy more quickly, but I think the practice of withholding singles basically led to the creation of illegal file sharing. Anyone who is old enough to be a music consumer in the mid 90s experienced having the buy a whole album for one song, and having the rest of the album suck. It typically cost around $20 for a regular-price CD.
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Post by CF15 on Aug 9, 2020 12:51:26 GMT -5
Then again, why couldn't the label have just issued physical singles either for a limited time or only to sell on tour? Actually, I believe Chumbawamba did something like that. They just released a very minimal amount of singles for "Tubthumping", just so it would chart. Weirdly enough, it was #1 on airplay for 9 weeks, but only peaked at #6 on the Hot 100, being effectively an airplay-only single. I guess radio airplay was given more weight in 1997-1998 for the Hot 100 than it did in 2000 when "Try Again" became the first airplay-only song to reach #1. And I've once again gone off on a bit of a tangent. My bad.
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Post by Doc Indie Party Rock on Aug 10, 2020 0:56:20 GMT -5
Definitely enjoying some of the youthful melodic rap jams over the "too mature for me" sounding R&B jams.
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Post by Unhinged on Aug 10, 2020 8:18:57 GMT -5
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Post by Unhinged on Aug 12, 2020 10:45:46 GMT -5
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Post by CF15 on Aug 12, 2020 13:32:29 GMT -5
I'll try to take the time to review all my ranks today so I can send you my list, before I forget.
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Post by theseanyg on Aug 13, 2020 20:32:51 GMT -5
I've ranked every song, but I'll hold off on my submission until I am satisfied with where I ranked everything, as I won't be able to make edits after submitting. In the mean time, here are some airplay-only hits that never charted on the Hot 100, due to the rule in place at the time for singles to chart: I think this one peaked at #2 for a while on Pop Songs behind "The Sign"... Surprised this only peaked at #22... And I had no idea the video reached a billion views. I imagine that, even if this had charted on the Hot 100, it would only be able to make the year-end chart for 1995, due to it being released in September 1994. This would definitely have been in my top five... It actually peaked in the top ten on Pop Songs. These peaked lower on the airplay chart, but I still think they're noteworthy mentions: I originally forgot to include these two. This year's airplay-only hits were particularly strong. Such a shame they never were able to chart on the Hot 100. :( Feel free to mention any others I may have missed! Man there was a lot of good airplay only. I wish someone would do like a rank down of the MTV top 100’s, since those were more how at least I experienced the 90’s.
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Post by Unhinged on Aug 14, 2020 7:59:42 GMT -5
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Post by spiritboy on Aug 16, 2020 9:05:29 GMT -5
Sent my votes. So many filler votes though.
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Post by Ky on Aug 17, 2020 16:00:12 GMT -5
This one is really hard for me. I really got into chart following in 1994, so I was GLUED to the radio and made my own mix tapes from Casey's Top 40. I have such an emotional connection to most of these songs even if they're in my bottom 20.
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Post by Juanca on Aug 18, 2020 10:16:06 GMT -5
Quite the year! I have several big hits in my personal chart that are not in this list —like Mr Jones. A time we could start seeing the negative effects of the physical single requirement to chart in the hot 100... I remember that when I did my yearend ranking in 1994 there were A LOT of good songs that I liked almost the same. I see at least a third of the list receiving the same level of positive score from me. Not amazing, but strong. I mean, songs by Madonna, Crash Test Dummies, Enigma, Toni Braxton, Mariah Carey, Ace of Base, Aerosmith, and many more had similar peak, longevity and overall points in my personal chart, and I still feel it’s gonna be hard to rank them. It’s probably the most similar to an 80s year instead of the number of pretty good -but not great- songs in the list. Will be listening all week!
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Post by Unhinged on Aug 18, 2020 16:57:53 GMT -5
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Post by Unhinged on Aug 20, 2020 12:45:50 GMT -5
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Post by Leo ✔ on Aug 20, 2020 12:57:08 GMT -5
I need to do this.
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Post by tim on Aug 21, 2020 1:20:13 GMT -5
I already have a very rough draft done so I’m still hoping to get in a final list for this by the weekend.
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Post by craziaskowboi on Aug 21, 2020 2:29:55 GMT -5
I DO DIS DIS WEEKEND!
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Post by aerodynamite on Aug 21, 2020 2:46:01 GMT -5
Been working on my list throughout the day. I should have it in soon.
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