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Post by NeRD on Sept 27, 2020 6:40:15 GMT -5
Lol.
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Post by deepston on Sept 27, 2020 7:43:21 GMT -5
Maybe the Fall is going to give it a push?
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Post by thirddegree50123 on Sept 27, 2020 8:27:06 GMT -5
Maybe the Fall is going to give it a push? Wouldn't be surprised. It definitely seems more suited to being a fall/winter hit |
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Post by justlurkingaround on Sept 27, 2020 9:01:27 GMT -5
For what it's worth, this played on the speakers at a pumpkin and apple picking farm yesterday in New Jersey and felt very appropriate for the setting! So maybe fall comes bearing better things for Cardigan?
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Post by Fears in the Fire on Sept 27, 2020 9:11:37 GMT -5
Bullet queen!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2020 9:24:36 GMT -5
This has a score of 90.71 on Hitpredictor and is number 4 on RatetheMusic. There is no way this should debut worse than Before You Go on callouts (if only Mediabase sampled the entire top 40 like they used to). Thus this is now an excellent replacement for that song in one of the ballad slots on some station’s playlists.
Like I said last month, this is a November top 10. I’m just pleasantly surprised to see it stick around long enough to maybe get to the part of the year it needed to make it to.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2020 13:20:15 GMT -5
Ok looks like its bouncing back, thank God
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Post by divasummer on Sept 27, 2020 13:49:58 GMT -5
Good update.
I hope it's not inflated due to the IHeart festival being last weekend and it eating up many songs spins..
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Post by fearlessarrow on Sept 27, 2020 20:19:23 GMT -5
SUNDAY PUBLISHED UPDATE (9/27):POP:19 18 TAYLOR SWIFT cardigan 5549 5288 261 20.223 {Taylor Swift's Top 40/M peaks to date:}#1: "I Knew You Were Trouble." (x6)
#1: "Bad Blood" (x6) (Taylor Swift feat. Kendrick Lamar)
#1: "Blank Space" (x5)
#1: "Style" (x3)
#1: "Shake It Off" (x2)
#1: "Wildest Dreams" (x2)
#1: "Love Story" (x1)
#1: "You Belong With Me" (x1)
#1: "Look What You Made Me Do" (x1)
#1: "Delicate" (x1)
#2: "We Are Never Ever Getting Back Together"
#2: "I Don't Wanna Live Forever" (ZAYN & Taylor Swift)
#6: "ME!" (Taylor Swift feat. Brendon Urie of Panic! at the Disco)
#7: "Teardrops On My Guitar"
#7: "Two Is Better Than One" (Boys Like Girls feat. Taylor Swift)
#9: "You Need to Calm Down"
#10: "22"
#10: "End Game" (Taylor Swift feat. Ed Sheeran & Future)
#11: "Mine"
#11: "...Ready for It?"
#12: "Fifteen"
#12: "Back to December"
#13: "Everything Has Changed" (Taylor Swift feat. Ed Sheeran)
#13: "Out of the Woods"
#14: "Lover"
#16: "New Romantics"
#17: "cardigan"
#19: "Our Song"
#19: "Today Was a Fairytale"
#20: "Eyes Open"
#20: "The Man"
#21: "The Story of Us"
#22: "Both of Us" (B.o.B. feat. Taylor Swift)
#45: "Gorgeous" *not an official radio single Chart run: 28-21-19- 17- 17- 17-19-19-18- HOT AC:9 9 TAYLOR SWIFT cardigan 3357 3370 -13 16.632 Chart run: 31-20-15-13-12-12-11-10- 9- 9- AC:12 12 TAYLOR SWIFT cardigan 365 379 -14 1.756 Chart run: 25-17-18-15-14-13- 12- 12- 12-
HOT AC:50 48 TAYLOR SWIFT exile f/Bon Iver 66 62 4 0.372 Chart run: 48-49-x-x-49- 48- AC:68 44 TAYLOR SWIFT exile f/Bon Iver 23 9 14 0.020 Chart run: 44- AAA:19 15 TAYLOR SWIFT exile f/Bon Iver 277 247 30 0.373 Chart run: 45-33-26-22-21-22-19- 15-
COUNTRY:34 36 TAYLOR SWIFT betty 1210 1171 39 3.733 Chart run: 47-44-40-40- 34-36-
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Post by aussie1 on Sept 28, 2020 2:26:21 GMT -5
Week 7 in the top 20 without hitting the top 15. How many weeks did 'Lover' linger?
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Post by 👑 Eloquent ™ on Sept 28, 2020 5:59:32 GMT -5
Week 7 in the top 20 without hitting the top 15. How many weeks did 'Lover' linger? Oh we aren't anywhere near that level of an exhaustive run yet. lol "Lover" spent 3 months (12 weeks) lingering between 19 and 16 before peaking at #14 for two non-consecutive weeks. gghunt.utasites.cloud/charts/Songruns/7.6.19/tswift_Lover.htm |
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Post by Az Paynter on Sept 28, 2020 9:01:49 GMT -5
This yo-yoing though...
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18 19 TAYLOR SWIFT cardigan 5480 5369 111 20.027
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9 9 TAYLOR SWIFT cardigan 3375 3343 32 16.633
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12 12 TAYLOR SWIFT cardigan 364 382 -18 1.768
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Post by deepston on Sept 28, 2020 9:08:52 GMT -5
I hate it here.
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Post by Choco on Sept 28, 2020 23:12:44 GMT -5
The top 10 in November thing made me laugh because I remembered the people that kept saying that all "Lover" needed was to last until December or something... and then come December it finally started going in one direction and it wasn't the right one.
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Post by sheerio on Sept 28, 2020 23:40:12 GMT -5
Up 3 spots to #49 on the BBH100 this week. 9 weeks
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Post by m450n on Sept 29, 2020 2:14:11 GMT -5
The top 10 in November thing made me laugh because I remembered the people that kept saying that all "Lover" needed was to last until December or something... and then come December it finally started going in one direction and it wasn't the right one. It's because of that one 'christmas lights up till january' song. People expected Lover (S) to thrive next to a bunch of holiday classics for some reason. cardigan on the other hand screams good callouts, has great critical acclaim, and could thrive for the rest of Fall and early Winter. I think Taylor's team should wait and see if cardigan can go anywhere and try and push Exile for Winter with a Shallow type run where it hits #1 hopefully after a grand Grammy performance. |
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Post by NeRD on Sept 29, 2020 6:57:19 GMT -5
I just feel like anyone who is still looking or even hoping for a Shallow type run for Exile are setting themselves up for disappointment.
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Post by Snowbeast on Sept 29, 2020 8:13:26 GMT -5
The top 10 in November thing made me laugh because I remembered the people that kept saying that all "Lover" needed was to last until December or something... and then come December it finally started going in one direction and it wasn't the right one. |
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Post by Az Paynter on Sept 29, 2020 8:37:34 GMT -5
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Post by Choco on Sept 29, 2020 9:34:47 GMT -5
I just feel like anyone who is still looking or even hoping for a Shallow type run for Exile are setting themselves up for disappointment. I revisited the track yesterday and kinda understood why people keep clamoring for it to be a single but I still feel like expectations are way too high. Specially for an album that has sold so well, post-release singles have a huge uphill battle. And I still feel like there are better choices for CHR ("the 1" or my favorite on the album, "august"). |
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Post by deepston on Sept 29, 2020 11:01:11 GMT -5
I just feel like anyone who is still looking or even hoping for a Shallow type run for Exile are setting themselves up for disappointment. I mean, it's still #130 on Spotify US, I could easily see it return to top 50 for a long period if she released a video for it and if radio was on board. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2020 11:15:22 GMT -5
The top 10 in November thing made me laugh because I remembered the people that kept saying that all "Lover" needed was to last until December or something... and then come December it finally started going in one direction and it wasn't the right one. I was talking about my personal chart of course... Honestly, yeah, I’m probably dead wrong |
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Post by jodakyellow on Sept 29, 2020 11:24:49 GMT -5
The top 10 in November thing made me laugh because I remembered the people that kept saying that all "Lover" needed was to last until December or something... and then come December it finally started going in one direction and it wasn't the right one. It's because of that one 'christmas lights up till january' song. People expected Lover (S) to thrive next to a bunch of holiday classics for some reason. People really cling to the idea that one-off lyrics that correlate to the calendar will somehow make a song a hit during that time of year.. |
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Post by Choco on Sept 29, 2020 11:44:18 GMT -5
See also: She can't release "Cruel Summer" because it's not summer yet! (Imagine if that kind of logic is why we ended up with "The Man" as the last single instead).
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Post by m450n on Sept 29, 2020 12:19:12 GMT -5
See also: She can't release "Cruel Summer" because it's not summer yet! (Imagine if that kind of logic is why we ended up with "The Man" as the last single instead). I have came to the conclusion that Lover should've been released this year. Cruel Summer as the lead for the whole COVID Summer quarantine and The Man would've fit perfectly with the 2020 U.S. elections. oh well |
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Post by SPRΞΞ on Sept 29, 2020 12:22:05 GMT -5
See also: She can't release "Cruel Summer" because it's not summer yet! (Imagine if that kind of logic is why we ended up with "The Man" as the last single instead). The Man is better, that's why we ended up with it. Cruel Summer is completely overrated by you guys. |
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Post by Choco on Sept 29, 2020 13:23:45 GMT -5
"The Man" had no business being a single imo. I know she ended up getting a token VMA for it, but even the video had nothing new to say about her recent struggles with Scooter.
And chartwise it's arguably her worst performing single ever? Don't let the first week peak deceive you.
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Post by Taylor. on Sept 29, 2020 13:37:32 GMT -5
The Man was maybe her first full fledged flop. It barely charted on the Hot 100 (as a single). I guess OOTW and New Romantics did kinda poorly too, but those at least went top 50 on the Hot 100 and were 6th and 7th singles.
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Post by nickd on Sept 29, 2020 14:18:11 GMT -5
Exile did quite well in NW Europe, the combined Spotify chart weeks for those countries (UK, Ireland, Belgium, Netherlands, Germany, Austria, Switzerland, Denmark, Sweden, Norway, Finland) was 58 weeks for exile vs 52 weeks for cardigan thanks to exile outperforming cardigan in Belgium, Sweden and Norway. The 1 did 27 weeks combined in these eleven countries.
I don't think any of the singles are going to be a huge smash at this point, but it would still be nice to see her promo some of the more popular songs from the album. She still hasn't performed any of the four most popular songs on the album (cardigan, exile, the 1 and august).
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Post by kimberly on Sept 29, 2020 14:25:41 GMT -5
The Man was maybe her first full fledged flop. It barely charted on the Hot 100 (as a single). I guess OOTW and New Romantics did kinda poorly too, but those at least went top 50 on the Hot 100 and were 6th and 7th singles. I'm not sure about OOTW's run (I think it may have returned to Top 40 after music video) but its peak is its debut week when it was released as a promo single before 1989, I'm pretty sure. As for New Romantics, it was a deluxe track that was only made available on streaming and iTunes when it became a single, which did help it a lot. So all things considered, The Man isn't too far off from her other "flop" late-in-the-album-cycle singles. Also agree that The Man > Cruel Summer but only slightly. in the latest rankdown, I put them at Nos. 8 and 9 on the album, respectively. |
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