Billboard Hot 100: 10/10/2020

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[cedric]

October 10 Predictions

[dremolus - solarpunk]

Crazy that Dreams is going to re-enter because of TikTok

[𝕡𝕙𝕖𝕖𝕓𝕤]

Oct 4, 2020 0:26:23 GMT -5 dremolus - solarpunk said:

Crazy that Dreams is going to re-enter because of TikTok

If TikTok can resurrect old hits, then it's time to start a prayer circle to get "Running Up That Hill" back on the Hot 100. Or literally any Kate Bush song. At all. 

You can hate on it all you want, but TikTok has reignited my excitement in chart watching. Also, I'm excited that "Dreams" is re-entering because it'll round out the song's total of 19 weeks on the chart to a neat and tidy 20. If it makes it to 22 weeks, it'll be Fleetwood Mac's longest running chart hit, surpassing the #4 peaking "Little Lies"'s total of 21 weeks.

[Lost In Musical Reverie]

It's incredible that "Dreams" has a chance of re-entering thanks to a viral TikTok video. I couldn't agree more with 𝕡𝕙𝕖𝕖𝕓𝕤 that the fact literally any song can gain new exposure truly makes chart watching even more exciting than it already is!

On another note, I'm so happy to see Ne-Yo getting a predicted new entry with "U 2 Luv", and it's nice to see "Moral Of The Story" back. Hoping both can have solid chart performances.

[dremolus - solarpunk]

Oct 4, 2020 3:01:35 GMT -5 𝕡𝕙𝕖𝕖𝕓𝕤 said:

Oct 4, 2020 0:26:23 GMT -5 dremolus - solarpunk said:

Crazy that Dreams is going to re-enter because of TikTok

TikTok can resurrect old hits

This is how Run Away With Me becomes a hit guys, let's go!

[Dadude#0839]

Oct 4, 2020 3:01:35 GMT -5 𝕡𝕙𝕖𝕖𝕓𝕤 said:

Oct 4, 2020 0:26:23 GMT -5 dremolus - solarpunk said:

Crazy that Dreams is going to re-enter because of TikTok

If TikTok can resurrect old hits, then it's time to start a prayer circle to get "Running Up That Hill" back on the Hot 100. Or literally any Kate Bush song. At all. 

You can hate on it all you want, but TikTok has reignited my excitement in chart watching. Also, I'm excited that "Dreams" is re-entering because it'll round out the song's total of 19 weeks on the chart to a neat and tidy 20. If it makes it to 22 weeks, it'll be Fleetwood Mac's longest running chart hit, surpassing the #4 peaking "Little Lies"'s total of 21 weeks.

This ^ i honestly am surprised that dreams is re entering tbh. Who would’ve thought that would happen this year

[Soulsista]

Billboard Top 10 from 60, 55, 50, 45, and 40 years ago:

October 3, 1960 (For the week ending October 8)

01 01 My Heart Has a Mind Of Its Own - Connie Francis (2nd and final week at #1)
02 03 Chain Gang - Sam Cooke
03 04 Mr. Custer - Larry Verne
04 02 The Twist - Chubby Checker
05 05 A Million To One - Jimmy Charles
06 10 Save The Last Dance For Me - The Drifters
07 06 It's Now Or Never - Elvis Presley
08 07 Walk Don't Run - The Ventures
09 09 So Sad - The Everly Brothers
10 12 Theme From The Apartment - Ferrante & Teicher


October 9, 1965

01 03 Yesterday - The Beatles (1st of 4 weeks at #1)
02 01 Hang On Sloopy - The McCoys
03 07 Treat Her Right - Roy Head
04 02 Eve Of Destruction - Barry McGuire
05 06 The 'In' Crowd - Ramsey Lewis
06 04 Catch Us If You Can - The Dave Clark Five
07 08 You've Got Your Troubles - The Fortunes
08 09 Baby Don't Go - Sonny & Cher
09 05 You Were On My Mind - We Five
10 12 Do You Believe In Magic - The Lovin' Spoonful


October 10, 1970

01 04 Cracklin' Rosie - Neil Diamond (1st and only week at #1)
02 06 I'll Be There - The Jackson 5
03 03 Candida - Dawn
04 01 Ain't No Mountain High Enough - Diana Ross
05 10 All Right Now - Free
06 05 Julie Do Ya Love Me - Bobby Sherman
07 02 Looking Out My Back Door / Long As I Can See The Light - Creedence Clearwater Revival
08 16 Green-Eyed Lady - Sugarloaf
09 18 We've Only Just Begun - The Carpenters
10 07 (I Know) I'm Losing You - Rare Earth


October 11, 1975

01 06 Bad Blood - Neil Sedaka (1st of 3 weeks at #1)
02 02 I'm Sorry / Calypso - John Denver
03 01 Fame - David Bowie
04 05 Mr. Jaws - Dickie Goodman
05 22 Miracles - Jefferson Starship
06 07 Ballroom Blitz - The Sweet
07 08 Dance With Me - Orleans
08 09 Ain't No Way To Treat a Lady - Helen Reddy
09 10 Rocky - Austin Roberts
10 18 Lyin' Eyes - The Eagles

19 52 Something Better To Do - Olivia Newton-John


October 11, 1980

01 01 Another One Bites The Dust - Queen (2nd of 3 weeks at #1)
02 07 Woman In Love - Barbra Streisand
03 03 Upside Down - Diana Ross
04 02 All Out Of Love - Air Supply
05 05 Drivin' My Life Away - Eddie Rabbitt
06 06 Late In The Evening - Paul Simon
07 08 I'm Alright - Kenny Loggins
08 10 Xanadu - Olivia Newton-John & Electric Light Orchestra
09 11 Real Love - The Doobie Brothers
10 04 Give Me The Night - George Benson

20 39 Lady - Kenny Rogers

[Soulsista]

Billboard Top 10 from 35, 30, 25, and 20 years ago:

October 12, 1985

01 03 Oh Sheila - Ready For The World (1st and only week at #1)
02 01 Money For Nothing - Dire Straits
03 04 Take On Me - a-ha
04 06 Saving All My Love For You - Whitney Houston
05 10 Part Time Lover - Stevie Wonder
06 08 Lonely Ol' Night - John Cougar Mellencamp
07 09 Dancing In The Street - Mick Jagger & David Bowie
08 02 Cherish - Kool & The Gang
09 13 Miami Vice Theme - Jan Hammer
10 05 Dress You Up - Madonna


October 13, 1990

01 02 Praying For Time - George Michael (1st and only week at #1)
02 01 Close To You - Maxi Priest
03 05 I Don't Have The Heart - James Ingram
04 07 Ice Ice Baby - Vanilla Ice
05 13 Black Cat - Janet Jackson
06 03 (Can't Live Without Your) Love And Affection - Nelson
07 11 Romeo - Dino
08 04 Something Happened On The Way To Heaven - Phil Collins
09 15 Everybody Everybody - Black Box
10 08 Oh Girl - Paul Young


October 14, 1995

01 01 Fantasy - Mariah Carey (3rd of 8 weeks at #1)
02 02 Gangsta's Paradise - Coolio feat. L.V.
03 03 You Are Not Alone - Michael Jackson
04 05 Runaway - Janet Jackson
05 04 Kiss From a Rose - Seal
06 06 Waterfalls - TLC
07 07 Only Wanna Be With You - Hootie & The Blowfish
08 09 As I Lay Me Down - Sophie B. Hawkins
09 11 Brokenhearted - Brandy
10 08 I Can Love You Like That - All-4-One


October 7, 2000

01 01 Music - Madonna (4th and final week at #1)
02 02 Give Me Just One Night (Una Noche) - 98 Degrees
03 03 Doesn't Really Matter - Janet Jackson
04 04 Jumpin' Jumpin' - Destiny's Child
05 05 Kryptonite - 3 Doors Down
06 34 Bag Lady - Erykah Badu
07 10 With Arms Wide Open - Creed
08 07 Incomplete - Sisqo
09 06 Bent - Matchbox Twenty
10 08 (Hot S**t) Country Grammar - Nelly

[Soulsista]

Billboard Top 10 Flashback:

October 8, 2005

01 01 Gold Digger - Kanye West feat. Jamie Foxx (4th of 10 weeks at #1)
02 02 Shake It Off - Mariah Carey
03 03 Like You - Bow Wow feat. Ciara
04 25 Photograph - Nickelback
05 04 My Humps - The Black Eyed Peas
06 05 We Belong Together - Mariah Carey
07 08 Wake Me Up When September Ends - Green Day
08 10 Play - David Banner
09 07 Don't Cha - The Pussycat Dolls feat. Busta Rhymes
10 11 Beverly Hills - Weezer

26 60 We Be Burnin' - Sean Paul


October 9, 2010

01 01 Just The Way You Are - Bruno Mars (2nd of 4 weeks at #1)
02 04 Teenage Dream - Katy Perry
03 02 Love The Way You Lie - Eminem feat. Rihanna
04 05 DJ Got Us Fallin' In Love - Usher feat. Pitbull
05 06 Dynamite - Taio Cruz
06 10 Like a G6 - Far East Movement feat. The Cataracs & Dev
07 08 Just a Dream - Nelly
08 03 Only Girl (In The World) - Rihanna
09 07 I Like It - Enrique Iglesias feat. Pitbull
10 09 Club Can't Handle Me - Flo Rida feat. David Guetta

21 NE Empire State Of Mind - Glee Cast
23 NE Telephone - Glee Cast


October 10, 2015

01 01 The Hills - The Weeknd (2nd of 6 weeks at #1)
02 02 What Do You Mean? - Justin Bieber
03 03 Can't Feel My Face - The Weeknd
04 09 Hotline Bling - Drake
05 04 Watch Me (Whip/Nae Nae) - Silento
06 07 679 - Fetty Wap feat. Remy Boyz
07 06 Locked Away - R. City feat. Adam Levine
08 05 Good For You - Selena Gomez feat. A$AP Rocky
09 08 Cheerleader - OMI
10 13 Wildest Dreams - Taylor Swift

22 NE On My Mind - Ellie Goulding


October 12, 2019

01 01 Truth Hurts - Lizzo (6th of 7 weeks at #1)
02 02 Señorita - Shawn Mendes & Camila Cabello
03 03 Someone You Loved - Lewis Capaldi
04 04 Ran$om - Lil Tecca
05 05 No Guidance - Chris Brown feat. Drake
06 07 bad guy - Billie Eilish
07 08 Circles - Post Malone
08 06 Panini - Lil Nas X
09 09 Goodbyes - Post Malone feat. Young Thug
10 10 Old Town Road - Lil Nas X feat. Billy Ray Cyrus

19 NE BOP - DaBaby
21 NE VIBEZ - DaBaby

[fhas]

[Lost In Musical Reverie]

Oct 4, 2020 11:19:26 GMT -5 Soulsista said:

October 9, 1965

01 03 Yesterday - The Beatles (1st of 4 weeks at #1)
02 01 Hang On Sloopy - The McCoys
03 07 Treat Her Right - Roy Head
04 02 Eve Of Destruction - Barry McGuire
05 06 The 'In' Crowd - Ramsey Lewis
06 04 Catch Us If You Can - The Dave Clark Five
07 08 You've Got Your Troubles - The Fortunes
08 09 Baby Don't Go - Sonny & Cher
09 05 You Were On My Mind - We Five
10 12 Do You Believe In Magic - The Lovin' Spoonful

It's still so hard to fathom "Yesterday" ended up getting caught between years and never made any Year-End list. Just shows that as much as we all love predicting the end of year charts, they aren't the be-all and end-all of what determines popular music at a given time period.

[Gary]

Those year end lists are subject to the statistical methods used at the time and the time periods chosen
Neither of which were consistent or perfect.


With the methods in place now, if they were to retroactively produce year end lists - they would look a lot different than what was published

[waluigionascooter]

Oct 4, 2020 15:07:15 GMT -5 Gary said:

Those year end lists are subject to the statistical methods used at the time and the time periods chosen
Neither of which were consistent or perfect.


With the methods in place now, if they were to retroactively produce year end lists - they would look a lot different than what was published

Imagine how high Iris by Goo Goo Dolls would've charted in 1998

[cedric]

Oct 4, 2020 19:32:08 GMT -5 waluigionascooter said:

Oct 4, 2020 15:07:15 GMT -5 Gary said:

Those year end lists are subject to the statistical methods used at the time and the time periods chosen
Neither of which were consistent or perfect.


With the methods in place now, if they were to retroactively produce year end lists - they would look a lot different than what was published

Imagine how high Iris by Goo Goo Dolls would've charted in 1998

I think Talk of the Charts tweeted this before, Iris would've been the 2nd biggest song of all time (in between The Twist and Smooth).

[jebsib]

But because "Iris" didn't have a retail single at the time, and the Hot 100 wasn't just airplay, it would've only hit #3 (was it iHype that worked that out about 2 years ago?)

As such it needed those retail points to get anywhere near "Smooth" levels.

Recall it only made #33 on the recent 90s Billboard tally.

[iHype.]

Oct 4, 2020 20:49:54 GMT -5 jebsib said:

But because "Iris" didn't have a retail single at the time, and the Hot 100 wasn't just airplay, it would've only hit #3 (was it iHype that worked that out about 2 years ago?)

As such it needed those retail points to get anywhere near "Smooth" levels.

Recall it only made #33 on the recent 90s Billboard tally.

Yeah, I was just gonna post lol.

TOTC I believe indicated if Iris had the exact same Hot 100 chart run as it did on the airplay chart (18 weeks #1), it would've been #2 on the all-time chart. However, that's a pretty inaccurate/misleading measure to throw out there. That's just 1 component chart.

Hot 100 was still pretty sales-driven, and it would've only peaked approximately #3 with 0 sales. It wouldn't have had a similar run as it did on the airplay chart.
pulsemusic.proboards.com/thread/186852/charts-airplay-tracks-charted-90s


It would've gotten 20-25 weeks top 10 though. So yeah, it would've been huge (Another Night by Real McCoy comes to mind with a similar run, #3 peak and 23 weeks top 10). However it wouldn't have been #2 all-time huge.

[Gary]

It was sales driven only because that is what the market was. Withhold major singles to support album sales

Had the market been different - who knows - impossible to predict

[jebsib]

iHype., were you ever able to calculate what these would have peaked at?

The Rembrandts - I’ll Be There For You
Selena - I Could Fall In Love
Fugees - Killing Me Softly
Primitive Radio Gods - Standing Outside A Broken Phone Booth With Money In My Hand
Alanis Morissette - Head Over Feet
The Cardigans - Lovefool
Counting Crows - A Long December
The Wallflowers - One Headlight
OMC - How Bizarre

No pressure, but these would be fascinating!

[waluigionascooter]

Oct 4, 2020 20:49:54 GMT -5 jebsib said:

But because "Iris" didn't have a retail single at the time, and the Hot 100 wasn't just airplay, it would've only hit #3 (was it iHype that worked that out about 2 years ago?)

As such it needed those retail points to get anywhere near "Smooth" levels.

Recall it only made #33 on the recent 90s Billboard tally.

My best guess is that it would probably be between "All My Life" and "Together Again" on the 1998 YE charts.

[korbel16]

Oct 4, 2020 21:31:13 GMT -5 jebsib said:

iHype., were you ever able to calculate what these would have peaked at?

The Rembrandts - I’ll Be There For You
Selena - I Could Fall In Love
Fugees - Killing Me Softly
Primitive Radio Gods - Standing Outside A Broken Phone Booth With Money In My Hand
Alanis Morissette - Head Over Feet
The Cardigans - Lovefool
Counting Crows - A Long December
The Wallflowers - One Headlight
OMC - How Bizarre

No pressure, but these would be fascinating!

add torn to this list pleasssse 💜

[Myth X]

Oct 5, 2020 6:16:09 GMT -5 korbel16 said:

Oct 4, 2020 21:31:13 GMT -5 jebsib said:

iHype., were you ever able to calculate what these would have peaked at?

The Rembrandts - I’ll Be There For You
Selena - I Could Fall In Love
Fugees - Killing Me Softly
Primitive Radio Gods - Standing Outside A Broken Phone Booth With Money In My Hand
Alanis Morissette - Head Over Feet
The Cardigans - Lovefool
Counting Crows - A Long December
The Wallflowers - One Headlight
OMC - How Bizarre

No pressure, but these would be fascinating!

add torn to this list pleasssse 💜

He already did it for Torn


It would have peaked at #5


pulsemusic.proboards.com/thread/186852/charts-airplay-tracks-charted-90s

[iHype.]

Oct 4, 2020 21:31:13 GMT -5 jebsib said:

iHype., were you ever able to calculate what these would have peaked at?

The Rembrandts - I’ll Be There For You
Selena - I Could Fall In Love
Fugees - Killing Me Softly
Primitive Radio Gods - Standing Outside A Broken Phone Booth With Money In My Hand
Alanis Morissette - Head Over Feet
The Cardigans - Lovefool
Counting Crows - A Long December
The Wallflowers - One Headlight
OMC - How Bizarre

No pressure, but these would be fascinating!

I definitely need to do 1995-1996 sometime, I just don't think I ever got around to looking at those years lol. Short attention span. I'll update the thread one day

[imbondz]

If Iris had a cd single it would have been #1 for double digit weeks.

[Golden Bluebird]

Wtf

[owenlovesmusic]

oh, wow, good

[Mayman]

LMAO I gasped! I was NOT expecting Travis to get the #1.

[After Minutes]

I-

[jtd Thee Stallion]

Lol never doubt Travis

[fhas]

LMAO Billboard is a joke