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Post by kcdawg13 on May 19, 2021 16:17:36 GMT -5
Demi Lovato's "Neon Lights" peaked at #36 on the Hot 100 and #5 on MB pop (though it only reached #7 on BB). This has now surpassed even that total non-event of a song... Lol totally forgot about Neon Lights
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Post by kimberly on May 19, 2021 16:28:45 GMT -5
New piece of information in this Billboard article:
proving once again that MediaBase Callout Research is just one of many tools available to radio PDs.
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Post by dbhmr on May 19, 2021 16:34:03 GMT -5
Honestly had no idea her three Positions singles were so successful. They feel far less impactful and memorable than anything from her two previous albums.
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Post by Caviar on May 19, 2021 16:41:20 GMT -5
Queen of pop radio! We're going to look back on the era and realize how monumental it was for her career.
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Post by kimberly on May 19, 2021 16:54:54 GMT -5
Honestly had no idea her three Positions singles were so successful. They feel far less impactful and memorable than anything from her two previous albums. well, "impactful" and "memorable" are quite subjective, but I think it has a lot to do with publicity. the Sweetener/TUN cycle was peak in terms of media coverage: from Manchester, to Jimmy Fallon (like, 5 times), to Carpool Karaoke, to BBMAs, VMAs, Ellen performance, Amazon Prime concert, BBC One special, Coachella, Vogue cover, British Vogue cover, ELLE cover, etc. etc. with Positions, she let the music do its thing. all three singles (+ "motive") are/were quite popular sounds on TikTok. the album has 2.14 billion streams on Spotify alone. no performances. no magazine spreads. no personal life drama in tabloids.
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Post by Soundcl🕤ck on May 19, 2021 17:18:19 GMT -5
I mean, TUN, 7 rings and NTLTC are the top 3 biggest Ariana's songs (since 2018), but I don't think positions is far behind. It's a huge win for her imo.
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Post by kimberly on May 19, 2021 18:27:07 GMT -5
I mean, TUN, 7 rings and NTLTC are the top 3 biggest Ariana's songs (since 2018), but I don't think positions is far behind. It's a huge win for her imo. I agree with those three on a cultural level, but Hot 100-wise, her biggest hits (per TOTC) are: | | GOAT rank |
| #1. | 7 rings | 418 |
| #2. | thank u, next | 523 |
| #3. | positions | 1117 * |
| #4. | Problem | 1265 |
| #5. | Bang Bang | 1365 |
| #6. | Save Your Tears | 1908 * | (not sure if she actually would get credited on the GOAT list yet but TOTC credits her) | #7. | Side to Side | 1992 |
| #8. | 34+35 | 2488 * |
| #9. | no tears left to cry | 2670 |
| #10. | Break Free | 3455 |
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Post by Soundcl🕤ck on May 19, 2021 18:30:57 GMT -5
I mean, TUN, 7 rings and NTLTC are the top 3 biggest Ariana's songs (since 2018), but I don't think positions is far behind. It's a huge win for her imo. I agree with those three on a cultural level, but Hot 100-wise, her biggest hits (per TOTC) are: ehhh, it's just weird to see 34+35 above NTLTC... also, which song is #11?
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Post by kimberly on May 19, 2021 18:42:41 GMT -5
I agree with those three on a cultural level, but Hot 100-wise, her biggest hits (per TOTC) are: ehhh, it's just weird to see 34+35 above NTLTC... also, which song is #11? #11 and below:
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Post by kimberly on May 19, 2021 19:19:57 GMT -5
ehhh, it's just weird to see 34+35 above NTLTC... forgot to address this. "34+35" peaked higher, both on the Hot 100 (#2 vs. #3) and Spotify (#2 vs #9). "NTLTC" was an iconic release, and it is remembered as one of her most successful because it tied her highest debut at the time ("Problem" and "NTLTC" both opened at #3) and had a good run. Sweetener won her her first Grammy (and still stands as her best album imo). However, hindsight is 20/20, and we can see now that its run doesn't "stand out" among her biggest hits, per se. her RIAA certifications are mostly outdated, but added them for additional context. contrary to what some folks in chart discussion forum would claim, songs do continue to be consumed after they go recurrent and can gain more significance over time. biggest example of that in Ariana's discography are "Into You" and "One Last Time," probably. so the Hot 100 GOAT list is not a be all, end all answer to the discussion here, I don't want to make it sound that way. | | Hot 100 Peak | Weeks in Top 10 | Weeks on the Chart | RIAA Certification | #1. | 7 rings | #1 (x8) | 16 | 33 | 5 million | #2. | thank u, next | #1 (x7) | 17 | 28 | 5 million | #3. | positions | #1 (x1) | 17 | 29* | 2 million | #4. | Problem | #2 | 16 | 25 | 6 million | #5. | Bang Bang | #3 | 16 | 31 | 8 million | #6. | Save Your Tears | #1 (x2) | 15 | 22* |
| #7. | Side to Side | #4 | 14 | 28 | 6 million | #8. | 34+35 | #2 (x2) | 10 | 28* | 2 million | #9. | no tears left to cry | #3 (x1) | 12 | 27 | 3 million | #10. | Break Free | #4 | 8 | 22 | 3 million |
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Post by Left Of Center on May 19, 2021 19:22:24 GMT -5
The Voice finale on Tuesday... Fingers crossed she performs pov. The timing is pretty much perfect
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Post by Caviar on May 19, 2021 21:06:04 GMT -5
I think “34+35” is her most impressive chart run considering it had only 10 weeks in the top 10 but is one of her longest charting hits! If only “breathin” was this big.
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Post by Wavey✨️ on May 19, 2021 21:24:25 GMT -5
Finally heard this in full😶
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Post by wjr15 on May 19, 2021 22:35:42 GMT -5
Finally heard this in full😶 Seriously? 😂😂
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Post by levitating on May 19, 2021 23:53:06 GMT -5
#359 on apple music #342 on itunes
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Post by Wavey✨️ on May 20, 2021 0:25:44 GMT -5
Finally heard this in full😶 Seriously? 😂😂 Yess you kno me and ballads lolol
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Post by jdanton2 on May 20, 2021 0:36:14 GMT -5
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Post by It's me, bitch. on May 20, 2021 1:09:18 GMT -5
Honestly had no idea her three Positions singles were so successful. They feel far less impactful and memorable than anything from her two previous albums. Agreed.
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Post by breathingrande on May 20, 2021 2:07:06 GMT -5
Can she do something? Like girl get to work for gods sake
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Post by Az Paynter on May 20, 2021 6:07:34 GMT -5
POP: 7 4 ARIANA GRANDE pov 12754 11148 1606 43.926
+216 Spins +41 Bullet +0.659 Audience
HOT AC: 28 27 ARIANA GRANDE pov 603 500 103 1.868
+16 Spins +1 Bullet +0.015 Audience
RHYTHMIC: 50 50 ARIANA GRANDE pov 292 285 7 0.532
-5 Spins -16 Bullet -0.012 Audience
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Post by kalmanta on May 20, 2021 6:56:16 GMT -5
What’s up with the abysmal performance on streaming services? I really don’t get it. Is there no Playlist support?
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Post by jebsib on May 20, 2021 7:06:11 GMT -5
Do you currently think this will ultimately re-peak above #40 on the Hot 100?
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Post by NeRD on May 20, 2021 8:10:54 GMT -5
What was the last #1 on Pop that wasn't at least Top 20 in sales or streaming?
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Post by breathingrande on May 20, 2021 9:08:41 GMT -5
What’s up with the abysmal performance on streaming services? I really don’t get it. Is there no Playlist support? yep , nothing.
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Post by Caviar on May 20, 2021 9:56:36 GMT -5
"pov" is performing exactly how it is supposed do. Yes, reading the daily meltdowns because it isn't doing better in other metrics is a kii, but honey is getting plumbing laid daily so I doubt any of this is affecting her.
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Post by divasummer on May 20, 2021 10:17:50 GMT -5
^^ Gross but I was thinking the same thing.... ^^ She just got married..... I doubt she cares about "POV" right now. It's probably the song to wrap up the era. At least it seems like that?
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Post by 𝕡𝕙𝕖𝕖𝕓𝕤 on May 20, 2021 22:07:28 GMT -5
Can she do something? Like girl get to work for gods sake she probably shrugged and decided not to do any promo when she realized it’d fly up the chart without her doing anything It feels weirdly wrong to see it this high. Huh
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Post by Crimsonio on May 20, 2021 22:12:54 GMT -5
Well...maybe she'll perform this at BBMAs with Abel?
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Post by SPRΞΞ on May 20, 2021 22:23:03 GMT -5
Yess you kno me and ballads lolol Is it a ballad? I haven’t heard it yet either.
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Post by survivorqt on May 20, 2021 23:03:20 GMT -5
Hopefully the video will be her wedding footage
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