American Top 40 [November 21, 2020]

[MitchWolf: Super Chart Genius]

This week we say goodbye to....
Trevor Daniel - Falling [from #40 after 42 weeks, PK: #1 for 1 week]
Miley Cyrus - Midnight Sky [from #18 after 10 weeks, PK: #17]

Debuting this week is....

• Jason Derulo's follow up to "Savage Love" (which he did with Jawsh 685) is "Take You Dancing" [#34]
  
• Also debuting on AT40, Harry Styles' third single from "Fine Line" album .. "Golden" [#28]

Fastest Riser/Greatest Fall

• This week's Fastest Riser belongs to Ariana Grande as "positions" moves up 9 from its debut of #25 to #16
  
• .... while this week's Greatest Fall goes to "Tap In" as it "taps out" by falling 10 huge spots from #29 to #39
  

Now In The Top 3,

• At #3, "Savage Love" drops from #2
  
• ...at #2, "ily" inches a spot closer at the top
  

• And at #1.... for the second week, "Mood" by 24kGolden & iann dior
  
  

American Top 40 [November 21, 2020]
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LW TW Artist-Title Peak So Far Weeks at #1 Weeks On

39 40 Justin Bieber/Quavo - Intentions 01 [2 wks] 39
29 39 Saweetie - Tap In 29 08
35 38 Zara Larsson - WOW 34 04
EX NF - Time

36 37 Doja Cat - Say So 01 [5 wks] 38
EX Trevor Daniel - Falling*
37 36 Tate McRae - you broke me first 36 03
34 35 Powfu/beabadoobee - Coffee For Your Head (Death Bed) 08 29
BO Dixie D'Amelio - Be Happy

[DE] 34 Jason Derulo - Take You Dancing 34 01
38 33 Machine Gun Kelly/blackbear - my ex's best friend 33 03
32 32 Conan Gray - Heather 32 04
27 31 SAINt JHN - Roses (Imanbek remix) 03 30
EX The Weeknd/Daft Punk - I Feel It Coming

OX-1 Wiz Khalifa/Charlie Puth - See You Again

33 30 Joel Corry/MNEK - Head & Heart 30 03
30 29 Travis Scott/Young Thug/M.I.A. - FRANCHISE 29 05
[DE] 28 Harry Styles - Golden 28 01
BO Internet Money/Gunna/Don Toliver/Nav - Lemonade

23 27 JP Saxe/Julia Michaels - If The World Was Ending 08 24
31 26 Bebe Rexha/Doja Cat - Baby, I'm Jealous 26 02
EX Maroon 5/Kendrick Lamar - Don't Wanna Know
28 25 Why Don't We - Fallin' 25 03

24 24 Zoe Wees - Control 24 09
26 23 Justin Bieber/Benny Blanco - Lonely 23 03
20 22 Harry Styles - Adore You 01 [2 wks] 47
EX Lady Gaga - Bad Romance
22 21 Chris Brown/Young Thug - Go Crazy 21 10

OX-2 Bruno Mars - 24k Magic

21 20 Sam Smith - Diamonds 20 06
12 19 DaBaby/Roddy Ricch - ROCKSTAR 04 23
19 18 Drake/Lil Durk - Laugh Now Cry Later 18 09
V G-Eazy/blackbear - Hate The Way

14 17 Dua Lipa - Break My Heart 01 [1 wk] 32
25 16 Ariana Grande - positions 16 02
EX DJ Khalid/Justin Bieber/Chance The Rapper/Quavo/Lil Wayne - I'm The One*
16 15 AJR - Bang! 15 17

17 14 Dua Lipa/DaBaby - Levitating 14 05
15 13 Shawn Mendes - Wonder 13 05
11 12 Juice WRLD/Marshmello - Come And Go 10 14
13 11 Kane Brown/Swae Lee/Khalid - Be Like That 11 15

OX-3 Selena Gomez - Lose You To Love Me

10 10 BTS - Dynamite 10 09
09 09 Justin Bieber/Chance The Rapper - Holy 09 07
EX Billie Eilish - bad guy*
07 08 The Weeknd - Blinding Lights 01 [5 wks] 43
BO Ariana Grande - 34+35

05 07 Lewis Capaldi - Before You Go 01 [1 wk] 41
BO Pop Smoke - What You Know About Love
04 06 Harry Styles - Watermelon Sugar 01 [8 wks] 24

08 05 Ava Max - Kings & Queens 05 13
06 04 Gabby Barrett/Charlie Puth - I Hope 04 20
02 03 Jawsh 685/Jason Derulo - Savage Love (Laxed-Siren Beat) 01 [4 wks] 18

OX-4 The Jonas Brothers - Only Human

03 02 Surf Mesa/Emilee - ily (i love you baby) 02 17
01 01 24kGoldn/iann dior - Mood 01 [**2nd week**] 10

Interviews:
Jennie Garth & Tori Spelling on their '9021OMG' podcast where they watch old episodes of the iconic series and discuss about it
Julia Michaels on her transition from just a songwriter to a singer/songwriter
Tayshia Adams on the transition of stepping in as "The Batchlorette" after the orignal lead Claire Crowley quit the show
Jason Derulo on how "Savage Love" became to be and how TikTok boosted them to the top

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[Fire]

inb4 we get the usual posts from momzquotes about the at40 extras/breakouts getting posted too late

[momzquotes]

Nov 19, 2020 16:45:14 GMT -5 Fire said:

inb4 we get the usual posts from momzquotes about the at40 extras/breakouts getting posted too late

Uh-oh. I think we have a problem. Another set of missing breakouts, OTVs, Rewind and extras... Again.

If someone listened to AT40 on Hi FM with extras and breakouts, verges and rewind, reply it with a comment or PM it. Thanks.

[Fire]

Nov 19, 2020 18:59:55 GMT -5 momzquotes said:

Nov 19, 2020 16:45:14 GMT -5 Fire said:

inb4 we get the usual posts from momzquotes about the at40 extras/breakouts getting posted too late

Uh-oh. I think we have a problem. Another set of missing breakouts, OTVs, Rewind and extras... Again.

If someone listened to AT40 on Hi FM with extras and breakouts, verges and rewind, reply it with a comment or PM it. Thanks.

[Fire]

Nov 19, 2020 6:23:08 GMT -5 MitchWolf: Super Chart Genius said:

Will “Mood” stay at #1 for a 2nd week? or will “ily” move into the top spot? 

No rewind this week... but here's the extras:

Optionals:
OX-1 Wiz Khalifa/Charlie Puth - See You Again
OX-2 Bruno Mars - 24k Magic
OX-3 Selena Gomez - Lose You To Love Me

Extras:
EX NF - Time
EX The Weeknd/Daft Punk - I Feel It Coming
EX Lady Gaga - Bad Romance
EX DJ Khalid/Justin Bieber/Chance The Rapper/Quavo/Lil Wayne - I'm The One

really? no rewind this week? huh.

anyway those are the extras i like. my favorites are see you again and i feel it coming, both of which are among my favorite songs of all time

[MitchWolf: Super Chart Genius]

I will be listening around 3a CST ... Need my rest for sure

[Arnold]

If I ran American Top 40, there would be a recurrent rule, and all breakouts and verges would be played before the countdown begins (before #40), and there would be no music from the past played on the show. Once the countdown begins there would not be any other music breaking the sequence of #40 to #1.

Does anybody agree with me?

[gemini79]

Nov 20, 2020 12:32:28 GMT -5 Arnold said:

If I ran American Top 40, there would be a recurrent rule, and all breakouts and verges would be played before the countdown begins (before #40), and there would be no music from the past played on the show. Once the countdown begins there would not be any other music breaking the sequence of #40 to #1.

Does anybody agree with me?

I agree, I think no song should be on the chart past 25 weeks

[Fire]

if i were to make a rule for at40, i'd probably make it so that unless the song has spent 40+ weeks on the mediabase charts, then the song can't spend more than 52 weeks on for hot ac and 45 weeks on for pop. that would speed up the freshness rate of the chart considerably.

and in terms of the extras/breakouts you guys nonstop complain about, i genuinely to this day don't see what's SO BAD about it.

again, hearing almost the exact same set of 40 songs every single week is so fucking boring, extras bring a slight variety to it.

of course, if the extra is played multiple consecutive weeks then that would probably increase the burn rate considerably, so i can understand the complaints for that to some extent, but unless there are so many extras the show literally has to cut out an actual number from the countdown, there really is no need to complain SO MUCH about the extras.

[gemini79]

Ryan made a couple of mistakes, Head & Heart was up 3, Go Crazy was close to the top 20 not the top 10

[gemini79]

Songs lasting 40 to 50 weeks is normal nowadays

[gemini79]

If Pop Smoke charts before the top 40 songs of the year, he would be the second rapper to chart this year after his death (Juice Wrld) is the first

[musiciscool]

Nov 20, 2020 12:32:28 GMT -5 Arnold said:

If I ran American Top 40, there would be a recurrent rule, and all breakouts and verges would be played before the countdown begins (before #40), and there would be no music from the past played on the show. Once the countdown begins there would not be any other music breaking the sequence of #40 to #1.

Does anybody agree with me?

Playing the breakouts/OTV songs before the countdown begins doesn't seem right for some reason to me. I would play only one every hour, and I would stop the many extras that they play. There's no need for so many of them in the entire countdown.

[MitchWolf: Super Chart Genius]

Nov 20, 2020 18:51:47 GMT -5 musiciscool said:

Nov 20, 2020 12:32:28 GMT -5 Arnold said:

If I ran American Top 40, there would be a recurrent rule, and all breakouts and verges would be played before the countdown begins (before #40), and there would be no music from the past played on the show. Once the countdown begins there would not be any other music breaking the sequence of #40 to #1.

Does anybody agree with me?

Playing the breakouts/OTV songs before the countdown begins doesn't seem right for some reason to me. I would play only one every hour, and I would stop the many extras that they play. There's no need for so many of them in the entire countdown.

rather have more extras or more non-music related interviews?? they need more 3 minutes stories like in Casey's era

[musiciscool]

Nov 20, 2020 18:58:21 GMT -5 MitchWolf: Super Chart Genius said:

Nov 20, 2020 18:51:47 GMT -5 musiciscool said:

Playing the breakouts/OTV songs before the countdown begins doesn't seem right for some reason to me. I would play only one every hour, and I would stop the many extras that they play. There's no need for so many of them in the entire countdown.

rather have more extras or more non-music related interviews?? they need more 3 minutes stories like in Casey's era

If the interviews were music related, then sure. Or play a #1 from some years ago.

[MitchWolf: Super Chart Genius]

Nov 20, 2020 19:04:30 GMT -5 musiciscool said:

Nov 20, 2020 18:58:21 GMT -5 MitchWolf: Super Chart Genius said:

rather have more extras or more non-music related interviews?? they need more 3 minutes stories like in Casey's era

If the interviews were music related, then sure. Or play a #1 from some years ago.

yeah that's it .....after songs #31, #21 and #11.... #1s a year ago, 5 years ago and 10 years ago

[kaseyken]

looks like the rogue segment went rogue this week

[kaseyken]

Nov 20, 2020 12:32:28 GMT -5 Arnold said:

If I ran American Top 40, there would be a recurrent rule, and all breakouts and verges would be played before the countdown begins (before #40), and there would be no music from the past played on the show. Once the countdown begins there would not be any other music breaking the sequence of #40 to #1.

Does anybody agree with me?

You would be happier listening to a local radio countdown I know Billy Costa in Boston Kiss 108fm used to do a Sunday night countdown that was pretty much a straight countdown without a lot of fluff. Stations aren't going to play all new songs in one bunch in this day and age.At40 usually tries to play "new song sandwiches" (two older songs with a new one in the middle)especially in the first hour. Too many unfamiliar songs in a row causes casual listeners to turn the channel. Trust me I long for the days when there were 250 different songs a year not 125. Unfortunately at  two hours and seven minutes this week I tunes times for the actual top 40 songs that leaves a lot of down time. I agree with most people i don't care about the bachelor or Kardashians would rather have music related fillers. Honestly, I don't know how people listen to Top 40 regular channels anymore with all the commercials and optional extras I heart radio is the best invention since the ipod.

[kaseyken]

suggestions to enhance the countdown and fill time

1.double shots
2.flashbacks top 5 of previous years ect.
3. past #1's
4. mention tops of other charts (albulm,country,r&b,ect)
5. mention songs falling off that week
6. have a trivia question or two that gets revealed in the next hour.
7.tease a featured artist for the week ahead of time and maybe play an interview and 3 songs from them.
8. answer listener's questions

[kaseyken]

Random thought , when was the last time a countdown didn't have at least one song from a one direction singer?

[kaseyken]

Random thought number two .Remember a few months ago when we had three or four pages each week! Where did everyone go? Rarely see a second page now? Guess there all playing blank slate.

[Fire]

Nov 20, 2020 22:32:49 GMT -5 kaseyken said:

Random thought number two .Remember a few months ago when we had three or four pages each week! Where did everyone go? Rarely see a second page now? Guess there all playing blank slate.

tbf like at least 50% of those posts were momzquotes scatter-posting throughout the thread about the breakouts and extras

[richie]

The lyrics of I Love You Baby are so sparse, I'm amazed that the song is charting so high.

[Rose "Payola" Nylund]

If I had my way, I'd take Ryan Seacrest out as the host and shift the emphasis of the show back toward the actual countdown component, announcing songs and movements, and include artist interviews and chart-related extras (rather than just random extras). I'd prefer a recurrent rule, just for freshness, but I know radio stations wouldn't like that.

[Arnold]

Nov 21, 2020 20:39:17 GMT -5 Rose "Payola" Nylund said:

If I had my way, I'd take Ryan Seacrest out as the host and shift the emphasis of the show back toward the actual countdown component, announcing songs and movements, and include artist interviews and chart-related extras (rather than just random extras). I'd prefer a recurrent rule, just for freshness, but I know radio stations wouldn't like that.

I agree, but does this show exist for the benefit of radio stations, or for the listener? You and I are listeners, and if it wasn't for listeners, this show wouldn't have any reason to exist.

[mkarns]

Nov 21, 2020 20:17:53 GMT -5 richie said:

The lyrics of I Love You Baby are so sparse, I'm amazed that the song is charting so high.

The lyrics this week match the chart showing of their original source, Frankie Valli's "Can't Take My Eyes Off of You", which reached #2 in 1967. Lauryn Hill also charted with that song in 1998.

[mkarns]

Nov 21, 2020 20:39:17 GMT -5 Rose "Payola" Nylund said:

If I had my way, I'd take Ryan Seacrest out as the host and shift the emphasis of the show back toward the actual countdown component, announcing songs and movements, and include artist interviews and chart-related extras (rather than just random extras). I'd prefer a recurrent rule, just for freshness, but I know radio stations wouldn't like that.

Seacrest is fine. I'd rather that he follow a format closer to Casey Kasem's, with some of the changes you state, such as intro and outro of each song, more chart movement detail, and more stories/interviews related to the extras. Though the brevity of so many hit songs these days necessitates many more extras than in Casey's time, and there's only so much to say about many songs and artists without getting repetitive.

[richie]

Nov 22, 2020 1:26:28 GMT -5 mkarns said:

Nov 21, 2020 20:17:53 GMT -5 richie said:

The lyrics of I Love You Baby are so sparse, I'm amazed that the song is charting so high.

The lyrics this week match the chart showing of their original source, Frankie Valli's "Can't Take My Eyes Off of You", which reached #2 in 1967. Lauryn Hill also charted with that song in 1998.

The original had additional lyrics:

You're just too good to be true
Can't take my eyes off of you
You'd be like Heaven to touch
I wanna hold you so much
At long last, love has arrived
And I thank God I'm alive
You're just too good to be true
Can't take my eyes off of you

Pardon the way that I stare
There's nothin' else to compare
The sight of you leaves me weak
There are no words left to speak
But if you feel like I feel
Please let me know that it's real
You're just too good to be true
Can't take my eyes off of you

[kaseyken]

Nov 22, 2020 1:29:36 GMT -5 mkarns said:

Nov 21, 2020 20:39:17 GMT -5 Rose "Payola" Nylund said:

If I had my way, I'd take Ryan Seacrest out as the host and shift the emphasis of the show back toward the actual countdown component, announcing songs and movements, and include artist interviews and chart-related extras (rather than just random extras). I'd prefer a recurrent rule, just for freshness, but I know radio stations wouldn't like that.

Seacrest is fine. I'd rather that he follow a format closer to Casey Kasem's, with some of the changes you state, such as intro and outro of each song, more chart movement detail, and more stories/interviews related to the extras. Though the brevity of so many hit songs these days necessitates many more extras than in Casey's time, and there's only so much to say about many songs and artists without getting repetitive.

Good point today's countdown creates different challenges than the past when Post Malone spends about three years straight on the countdown how many facts or stories can you give. Also with many artists charting three or four songs a week it's easy to run out of material.
                                  As far as chart data and positions i don't think they put a lot of stock in it as the old days (either do I) where it seemed to mean something, to me it's apples to oranges with chart stats. How can you compare old 1955 to 1991 chart stats to after that. It's like this years baseball season playing 60 games instead of 162 everything is going to have an * next to it. It's like Billboard charts now a days i couldn't care less, an artists releases an album and a dozen songs hit the top 100 toppling Beatles records that stood for decades.

[Rose "Payola" Nylund]

Nov 22, 2020 1:26:28 GMT -5 mkarns said:

Nov 21, 2020 20:17:53 GMT -5 richie said:

The lyrics of I Love You Baby are so sparse, I'm amazed that the song is charting so high.

The lyrics this week match the chart showing of their original source, Frankie Valli's "Can't Take My Eyes Off of You", which reached #2 in 1967. Lauryn Hill also charted with that song in 1998.

I didn’t realize Lauryn charted too. She reached #46.