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Post by lazer on Dec 5, 2020 20:07:57 GMT -5
There are way better R&B singers out there that deserve more success and airplay than Chris Brown's mediocrity.
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Post by iHype. on Dec 5, 2020 20:19:19 GMT -5
This current #1 song in America slaying:
Spotify - #124
Apple Music - #752
iTunes - #143
Radio - <0.200m audience
This wouldn't have even charted for 3 weeks without website sales.
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Post by lazer on Dec 5, 2020 20:32:55 GMT -5
Ah yes, Life Goes On is a song that everyone and their grandparents know. It's absolutely not a song that went #1 because of how frontloaded it is due to mass-buying from stans and Billboards flawed formula. It is heard everywhere in your local stores, malls, restaurants, and your mom's playlist.
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Post by Henry Suárez on Dec 5, 2020 20:55:21 GMT -5
This current #1 song in America slaying: Spotify - #124 Apple Music - #752 iTunes - #143 Radio - <0.200m audience This wouldn't have even charted for 3 weeks without website sales. Wow, these stats are freakin' crazy, how is this song #1 in the USA!? |
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Post by gabe on Dec 5, 2020 20:57:36 GMT -5
I hate to admit it, as much as I hate Chris Brown as a person, he keeps delivering bangers. Stop trying to force feed me pop girl music Pulse. His songs are just too good. baby girl nobody's tryna force feed you shit |
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Post by dovahduck on Dec 5, 2020 21:01:37 GMT -5
Ah yes, Life Goes On is a song that everyone and their grandparents know. It's absolutely not a song that went #1 because of how frontloaded it is due to mass-buying from stans and Billboards flawed formula. It is heard everywhere in your local stores, malls, restaurants, and your mom's playlist. I can confirm, I am everybody's local store. |
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on Dec 5, 2020 21:19:56 GMT -5
This current #1 song in America slaying: Spotify - #124 Apple Music - #752 iTunes - #143 Radio - <0.200m audience This wouldn't have even charted for 3 weeks without website sales. Wow, these stats are freakin' crazy, how is this song #1 in the USA!? Not to mention dropping from #2 to #23 in US YouTube Music Videos with a 81.5% drop in weekly views. I think it should be able to challenge Trollz for the biggest drop from #1 in the Hot 100 for a non-holiday song. |
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Post by rimetm on Dec 5, 2020 21:25:04 GMT -5
Wow, these stats are freakin' crazy, how is this song #1 in the USA!? Not to mention dropping from #2 to #23 in US YouTube Music Videos with a 81.5% drop in weekly views. I think it should be able to challenge Trollz for the biggest drop from #1 in the Hot 100 for a non-holiday song. It would...were it not for the D2C sales, which are projected to number around 5 dozen and could end up securing the song a top 15 slot or even challenge for the top 10 still. Honestly, I hope this gets people to put Billboard & Nielsen's feet to the fire to actually fix sales (be it capping the per-customer count to 1 instead of 4, removing D2C, removing physicals, downweighting the metric, or some combination of the prior), seeing as it appears they'll be doing their annual changes on the tracking week starting January 1. |
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Post by Ｓｏｕｎｄｃｌ🕤ｃｋ on Dec 5, 2020 21:38:14 GMT -5
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Post by iamsorare on Dec 6, 2020 5:53:54 GMT -5
Radio has never stopped supporting Chris Brown, as opposed to abandoning basically all female artists that have started in the 00s. pop radio hasn't supported him since 2013...Go crazy is his first song since 2013 who reached top 15 on pop radio and it's still rising |
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Post by Enigma. on Dec 6, 2020 6:18:42 GMT -5
And we still wonder why... :kii:
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Post by jenglisbe on Dec 6, 2020 6:33:54 GMT -5
Go Crazy is a nice catchy song and i'm glad its doing fine. Rihanna forgave him so who am i to hold grugdes towards him? Right! It's our own choice if we want to listen to him. I'm cleary aware of what he did, and I can separate his personal from the music. Now if was on some "I beat women up and ion give a s**t" in countless songs, then yeah. Its personal preference at the end of the day. Should we be shunned for it? No. And it's people's own choice if they want to shun you for it. |
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Post by wavey. on Dec 6, 2020 6:46:14 GMT -5
Right! It's our own choice if we want to listen to him. I'm cleary aware of what he did, and I can separate his personal from the music. Now if was on some "I beat women up and ion give a s**t" in countless songs, then yeah. Its personal preference at the end of the day. Should we be shunned for it? No. And it's people's own choice if they want to shun you for it. Yes. But it's still not gonna change anything. |
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Post by Choco on Dec 6, 2020 6:55:18 GMT -5
I keep seeing Chris Brown get hits but tbh I've managed to avoid them all since probably "Look at Me Now".
It's the streaming era and it's never been easier to ignore stuff you don't wanna support. Outside of maybe "Despacito" and "Shape of You" kind of stuff. I don't think I heard the full "Old Town Road" song more than two or three times.
Also at one point as a chart follower you start to accept that trash sometimes goes onto become a hit, and that's ok.
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Post by gikem on Dec 6, 2020 9:38:26 GMT -5
TOTC says that this week’s top 50 is expected to contain around half Christmas songs, which is roughly the same as the week of January 4, 2020. Just ridiculous, and a bad sign for the current music market even considering the time of year.
Personally, I’m going to stop following the weekly Hot 100 super-closely until all those songs leave in early January. In the meantime, I’d appreciate if somebody here more knowledgeable than me on chart points can make a weekly “Hot 50” listing the biggest non-Christmas songs of the week, especially since recurrent rules are messing that aspect up (i.e. songs are leaving too early because of Christmas songs pushing them out).
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Post by Mayman on Dec 6, 2020 11:13:43 GMT -5
^ See I don't understand why people say songs are going recurrent too early when Billboard let songs re-enter after Christmas last year. I'm sure they'll do it again this year as well.
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on Dec 6, 2020 11:26:05 GMT -5
TOTC says that this week’s top 50 is expected to contain around half Christmas songs, which is roughly the same as the week of January 4, 2020. Just ridiculous, and a bad sign for the current music market even considering the time of year. Personally, I’m going to stop following the weekly Hot 100 super-closely until all those songs leave in early January. In the meantime, I’d appreciate if somebody here more knowledgeable than me on chart points can make a weekly “Hot 50” listing the biggest non-Christmas songs of the week, especially since recurrent rules are messing that aspect up (i.e. songs are leaving too early because of Christmas songs pushing them out). Well, people need an escape from their current reality. Plus, the holiday songs are nostalgic since they bring memories of better times. Also, if the current non-holiday songs are doing poorly compared to the holiday ones, that reflects poorly on the former more than good for the latter. |
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Post by gikem on Dec 6, 2020 11:27:34 GMT -5
^ See I don't understand why people say songs are going recurrent too early when Billboard let songs re-enter after Christmas last year. I'm sure they'll do it again this year as well. And they absolutely will, I just mean to say all this hypothetically. Heck, if the Christmas songs never charted last year, Sucker and I Don't Care would have easily repeated on the 2020 YE. |
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on Dec 6, 2020 11:38:23 GMT -5
kworb's Billboard Radio Songs Estimates 2020/12/06
1(=) 24kGoldn - Mood (feat. iann dior) 136.73(+0.37)
2(=) Gabby Barrett - I Hope (feat. Charlie Puth) 110.88(-0.80)
3(=) Ava Max - Kings & Queens 109.70(+0.73)
4(=) Drake - Laugh Now Cry Later (feat. Lil Durk) 104.44(+0.09)
5(=) Chris Brown & Young Thug - Go Crazy 104.42(+1.22)
6(=) Justin Bieber - Holy (feat. Chance the Rapper) 97.74(+1.56)
7(=) Ariana Grande - positions 87.95(+2.49)
8(=) The Weeknd - Blinding Lights 82.24(-0.90)
9(=) Surf Mesa - ily (i love you baby) [feat. Emilee] 77.79(-0.97) +
10(=) Jawsh 685 x Jason Derulo - Savage Love (Laxed - Siren Beat) 68.66(-0.79)
13(=) AJR - Bang! 60.03(+1.19)
15(+1) Dua Lipa - Levitating (feat. DaBaby) 55.95(+1.36) 25(+3) Jhené Aiko - B.S. (feat. H.E.R.) 43.49(+0.85)
30(+2) Billie Eilish - Therefore I Am 41.77(+1.39)
47(+3) Kelsea Ballerini - hole in the bottle 28.29(+0.71)
50(+2) Shawn Mendes & Justin Bieber - Monster 27.92(+1.70)
73(+5) Thomas Rhett - What's Your Country Song 18.29(+0.80) 76(+6) Pop Smoke - What You Know Bout Love 17.67(+0.87) -(-) Lil Nas X - HOLIDAY 12.94(+0.86) -(-) All Time Low - Monsters (feat. Demi Lovato and blackbear) 12.21(+0.99) + -(-) Megan Thee Stallion - Body 11.70(+2.00) -(-) Miley Cyrus - Prisoner (feat. Dua Lipa) 9.26(+1.05)
-(-) The Weeknd - Save Your Tears 9.10(+0.92)
-(-) CJ - Whoopty 6.27(+3.74) +
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Post by otaviohmg on Dec 6, 2020 11:48:22 GMT -5
kworb's Billboard Radio Songs Estimates 2020/12/06
25(+3) Jhené Aiko - B.S. (feat. H.E.R.) 43.49(+0.85)
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Post by dremolus - solarpunk on Dec 6, 2020 12:05:52 GMT -5
So glad Jhene is slowly becoming a radio darling with P*$$Y FAIRY and B.S. being sleeper hits on the radio. I hope this means a resurgence for R&B in the mainstream and R&B artists will get regular airplay (hopefully without C**** B****)
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Post by Soulsista on Dec 6, 2020 12:13:57 GMT -5
Billboard Top 10 from 60, 55, 50, 45, and 40 years ago:
December 5, 1960 (For the week ending December 10)
01 01 Are You Lonesome Tonight? - Elvis Presley (2nd of 6 weeks at #1)
02 02 Last Date - Floyd Cramer
03 04 Poetry In Motion - Johnny Tillotson
04 03 Stay - Maurice Williams & The Zodiacs
05 05 A Thousand Stars - Kathy Young & The Innocents
06 07 North To Alaska - Johnny Horton
07 11 He Will Break Your Heart - Jerry Butler
08 06 New Orleans - Gary U.S. Bonds
09 12 Sailor - Lolita
10 09 Let's Go, Let's Go, Let's Go - Hank Ballard
December 11, 1965
01 01 Turn! Turn! Turn! - The Byrds (2nd of 3 weeks at #1)
02 02 I Hear a Symphony - The Supremes
03 04 Let's Hang On - The Four Seasons
04 05 I Got You (I Feel Good) - James Brown
05 10 Over And Over - The Dave Clark Five
06 09 I Can Never Go Home Anymore - The Shangri-Las
07 03 1-2-3 - Len Barry
08 07 Taste Of Honey - Herb Alpert & The Tijuana Brass
09 06 Rescue Me - Fontella Bass
10 13 I Will - Dean Martin
December 12, 1970
01 02 Tears Of a Clown - Smokey Robinson & The Miracles (1st of 2 weeks at #1)
02 01 I Think I Love You - The Partridge Family
03 03 Gypsy Woman - Brian Hyland
04 07 One Less Bell To Answer - The 5th Dimension
05 04 I'll Be There - The Jackson 5
06 13 My Sweet Lord / Isn't It a Pity - George Harrison
07 17 Black Magic Woman - Santana
08 08 No Matter What - Badfinger
09 16 Does Anybody Really Know What Time It Is - Chicago
10 10 Share The Land - The Guess Who
December 13, 1975
01 01 Fly, Robin, Fly - Silver Convention (3rd and final week at #1)
02 04 Let's Do It Again - The Staple Singers
03 03 Sky High - Jigsaw
04 02 That's The Way (I Like It) - K.C. & The Sunshine Band
05 09 Saturday Night - The Bay City Rollers
06 12 Love Rollercoaster - The Ohio Players
07 08 Nights On Broadway - The Bee Gees
08 19 Theme From Mahogany (Do You Know Where You're Going To) - Diana Ross
09 10 My Little Town - Simon & Garfunkel
10 11 Fox On The Run - The Sweet
December 13, 1980
01 01 Lady - Kenny Rogers (5th of 6 weeks at #1)
02 02 More Than I Can Say - Leo Sayer
03 03 Another One Bites The Dust - Queen
04 06 (Just Like) Starting Over - John Lennon
05 05 Master Blaster (Jammin') - Stevie Wonder
06 07 Love On The Rocks - Neil Diamond
07 08 Hungry Heart - Bruce Springsteen
08 04 Woman In Love - Barbra Streisand
09 14 Guilty - Barbra Streisand & Barry Gibb
10 11 Hit Me With Your Best Shot - Pat Benatar
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Post by dremolus - solarpunk on Dec 6, 2020 12:15:37 GMT -5
Billboard Top 10 from 60, 55, 50, 45, and 40 years ago: 10 11 Hit Me With Your Best Shot - Pat BenatarOmg I didn't realize HMWYBS was such an early 80s hit. Pat Benatar really was ahead of her time |
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Post by Soulsista on Dec 6, 2020 12:26:00 GMT -5
Billboard Top 10 from 35, 30, 25, and 20 years ago:
December 14, 1985
01 01 Broken Wings - Mr. Mister (2nd and final week at #1)
02 02 Separate Lives - Phil Collins & Marilyn Martin
03 05 Say You, Say Me - Lionel Richie
04 09 Party All The Time - Eddie Murphy
05 04 Never - Heart
06 07 Election Day - Arcadia
07 11 Alive And Kicking - Simple Minds
08 10 Sleeping Bag - ZZ Top
09 13 I Miss You - Klymaxx
10 03 We Built This City - Starship
December 15, 1990
01 01 Because I Love You (The Postman Song) - Stevie B. (2nd of 4 weeks at #1)
02 03 From a Distance - Bette Midler
03 02 I'm Your Baby Tonight - Whitney Houston
04 10 Justify My Love - Madonna
05 07 Impulsive - Wilson Phillips
06 08 The Way You Do The Things You Do - UB40
07 09 Tom's Diner - DNA feat. Suzanne Vega
08 04 Something To Believe In - Poison
09 12 Freedom 90 - George Michael
10 11 High Enough - Damn Yankees
December 16, 1995
01 01 One Sweet Day - Mariah Carey & Boyz II Men (3rd of 16 weeks at #1)
02 02 Exhale (Shoop Shoop) - Whitney Houston
03 03 Hey Lover - LL Cool J feat. Boyz II Men
04 04 Fantasy - Mariah Carey
05 05 Gangsta's Paradise - Coolio feat. L.V.
06 08 You'll See - Madonna
07 06 Diggin' On You - TLC
08 07 You Remind Me Of Something - R. Kelly
09 09 Name - The Goo Goo Dolls
10 10 Runaway - Janet Jackson
December 9, 2000
01 01 Independent Women Part 1 - Destiny's Child (4th of 11 weeks at #1)
02 02 Case Of The Ex (Whatcha Gonna Do) - Mya
03 03 With Arms Wide Open - Creed
04 07 Gotta Tell You - Samantha Mumba
05 04 Kryptonite - 3 Doors Down
06 05 This I Promise You - *NSYNC
07 10 It Wasn't Me - Shaggy feat. Ricardo "RikRok" Ducent
08 06 Most Girls - P!nk
09 08 The Way You Love Me - Faith Hill
10 09 Shape Of My Heart - The Backstreet Boys
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Post by After Minutes on Dec 6, 2020 12:30:01 GMT -5
This will be controversial but Chris Brown's songs would probably be in my personal top 20 if not top 10 in both this and last year
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Post by Soulsista on Dec 6, 2020 12:41:06 GMT -5
Billboard Top 10 Flashback:
December 10, 2005
01 01 Run It! - Chris Brown (3rd of 5 weeks at #1)
02 02 Gold Digger - Kanye West feat. Jamie Foxx
03 03 My Humps - The Black Eyed Peas
04 06 Laffy Taffy - D4L
05 04 Soul Survivor - Young Jeezy feat. Akon
06 05 Photograph - Nickelback
07 07 Hung Up - Madonna
08 10 Stickwitu - The Pussycat Dolls
09 08 We Be Burnin' - Sean Paul
10 09 Because Of You - Kelly Clarkson
19 52 Grillz - Nelly feat. Paul Wall, Ali & Gipp
25 69 When I'm Gone - Eminem
December 11, 2010
01 02 Raise Your Glass - P!nk (1st and only week at #1)
02 06 Firework - Katy Perry
03 01 Only Girl (In The World) - Rihanna
04 07 Just The Way You Are - Bruno Mars
05 08 What's My Name? - Rihanna feat. Drake
06 04 We R Who We R - Ke$ha
07 03 Like a G6 - Far East Movement feat. The Cataracs & Dev
08 05 Just a Dream - Nelly
09 13 The Time (Dirty Bit) - The Black Eyed Peas
10 17 Grenade - Bruno Mars
18 NE Tonight (I'm Lovin' You) - Enrique Iglesias feat. Ludacris & DJ Frank E
December 12, 2015
01 01 Hello - Adele (5th of 10 weeks at #1)
02 02 Sorry - Justin Bieber
03 03 Hotline Bling - Drake
04 05 What Do You Mean? - Justin Bieber
05 06 The Hills - The Weeknd
06 07 Stitches - Shawn Mendes
07 04 Love Yourself - Justin Bieber
08 11 Like I'm Gonna Lose You - Meghan Trainor feat. John Legend
09 08 679 - Fetty Wap feat. Remy Boyz
10 10 Here - Alessia Cara
22 NE When We Were Young - Adele
December 14, 2019
01 32 Heartless - The Weeknd (1st and only week at #1)
02 01 Circles - Post Malone
03 18 All I Want For Christmas Is You - Mariah Carey
04 02 Someone You Loved - Lewis Capaldi
05 04 Memories - Maroon 5
06 03 Good As Hell - Lizzo
07 05 Roxanne - Arizona Zervas
08 29 Rockin' Around The Christmas Tree - Brenda Lee
09 06 Lose You To Love Me - Selena Gomez
10 08 10,000 Hours - Dan + Shay & Justin Bieber
11 NE Blinding Lights - The Weeknd
18 48 A Holly Jolly Christmas - Burl Ives
23 47 Jingle Bell Rock - Bobby Helms
24 49 It's The Most Wonderful Time Of The Year - Andy Williams
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Post by korbel16 on Dec 6, 2020 13:21:36 GMT -5
I honestly think Christmas week everything that’s not above #20 is going recurrent 😭
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Post by jayhawk1117 on Dec 6, 2020 13:48:23 GMT -5
This current #1 song in America slaying: Spotify - #124 Apple Music - #752 iTunes - #143 Radio - <0.200m audience This wouldn't have even charted for 3 weeks without website sales. Wow, these stats are freakin' crazy, how is this song #1 in the USA!? week one website Sales |
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on Dec 6, 2020 14:21:26 GMT -5
I honestly think Christmas week everything that’s not above #20 is going recurrent 😭 It depends ... for example, songs which will have 20 or fewer week then, the worst that can happen to them is dropping out without going recurrent. Obviously, those with 21 or more weeks are subject to the top 50 threshold to avoid going recurrent and then there would be those with 52 or more weeks (Blinding Lights and I Hope) are subject to the top 25 threshold. |
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Post by gikem on Dec 6, 2020 15:02:00 GMT -5
December 14, 201911 NE Blinding Lights - The Weeknd The birth of a legend. |
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