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Post by areyoureadytojump on Dec 12, 2020 14:27:00 GMT -5
hitsdailydouble.com/news&id=324421&title=NEW-RELEASES%253A-SWIFT%252C-CUDI-DUE-FOR-BIG-BOWSSaturday, December 12, 2020 NEW RELEASES: SWIFT, CUDI DUE FOR BIG BOWSRepublic will have the #1 and #2 albums on next week’s HITS Top 50. Taylor Swift will once again lead the chart with evermore, after spending eight weeks on top with her late summer release, folklore. Swift will now have the first and fifth biggest debuts of 2020. Kid Cudi will land in the runner up spot with the long-awaited third chapter of his Man on the Moon series. Previously, it was Pop Smoke who followed Swift and spent an incredible 11 weeks at #2. Taylor Swift (Republic) 300-350k total activity, 150-170k albumKid Cudi (Republic) 150-175k, 15-18k
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Post by Taylor. on Dec 12, 2020 14:30:05 GMT -5
Not bad given that's just streaming + digital. Was hoping for ~400k though.
If retailers will have the physical on Friday, why wouldn't her team start shipping out orders on Thursday so they count for the tracking week?
Wouldn't be surprised if her label puts out a statement saying total orders were over 500k or something soon.
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Post by Choco on Dec 12, 2020 14:32:34 GMT -5
I expected 500k not gonna lie.
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Post by thegreatdivine on Dec 12, 2020 14:34:12 GMT -5
I expected 500k not gonna lie. That was never gonna happen with a streaming/digital-only release. I actually expect the final numbers to be a bit lower.
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Post by areyoureadytojump on Dec 12, 2020 14:34:32 GMT -5
^^These are early numbers. They will go up.
Cudi would have debuted at #1.
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Post by MissAmericana on Dec 12, 2020 14:36:22 GMT -5
I expected 500k not gonna lie. Her predictions tend to go up a lot, so I wouldn't be surprised to see her end up at 500k or just short of that. Folklore was predicted to debut with 450k at first and ended up doing almost 850k. Still, not a bad number considering zero physicals were involved. Hopefully she can pull 300k+ with them next week.
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Post by thegreatdivine on Dec 12, 2020 14:37:01 GMT -5
^^These are early numbers. They will go up. Cudi would have debuted at #1. They likely won't. The reason why Taylor's numbers for her past maybe 5/6 albums have always gone up after intial projections is because fans would go hard in buying physical versions of the album. evermore doesn't have that so I think the final numbers will be around the 300-350K range or slightly lower. Unless there's some other tricks Taylor has up her sleeve to beef up her pure sale figures, the magical boost to these intial numbers won't be coming from anywhere. For her sake, I hope I'm proven wrong, though.
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Post by thegreatdivine on Dec 12, 2020 14:38:48 GMT -5
I expected 500k not gonna lie. Her predictions tend to go up a lot, so I wouldn't be surprised to see her end up at 500k or just short of that. Folklore was predicted to debut with 450k at first and ended up doing almost 850k. Still, not a bad number considering zero physicals were involved. Hopefully she can pull 300k+ with them next week. folklore had multiple physical versions and bundles. evermore has neither.
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Post by Choco on Dec 12, 2020 14:43:02 GMT -5
I mean it's no biggie if it does 300k. She has been such a consistently impressive seller that I thought 500k was at play.
If this was a promoted normal release like Lover then alarms would be going off, but as it is, it's OK.
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Post by jamatthews83 on Dec 12, 2020 14:45:28 GMT -5
Great for Cudi, Christmas isn't that scary after all.
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Post by Enigma. on Dec 12, 2020 14:57:45 GMT -5
People running onto this thread to scream flop
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Post by Wave. on Dec 12, 2020 15:11:58 GMT -5
That is awesome for both. Cudi has always been consistent.(well the "Man On The Moon" theme has consistent.)
MOTM:104k MOTM2:169k Indicud:139k Satellite Flight..:87k Speedin Bullet 2 Heaven:19k Passion Pain and Demon Slayin:49k Kids See Ghosts:142k
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Post by shayonce on Dec 12, 2020 15:23:40 GMT -5
it is great. with physicals she probably done +400k and more depends on how much versions and signed cd she put out.
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Post by bigolefreak on Dec 12, 2020 15:24:30 GMT -5
350k? Oh. I guess you really can't do the same thing twice & expect the same results. Maybe the "surprise" ninth album will have physicals upon its release.
Decent numbers anyway regardless of the decline
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Post by Push The Button on Dec 12, 2020 15:59:53 GMT -5
Decent my behind. That number still murders every other female release of 2020 not named Taylor Swift.
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Post by Verisimilitude on Dec 12, 2020 16:00:38 GMT -5
I think these numbers will go up. They always go lowball for Taylor.
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Post by Mayman on Dec 12, 2020 16:23:10 GMT -5
This is good considering there are no physicals and bundles this time.
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Post by myhouse911 on Dec 12, 2020 16:29:04 GMT -5
I think Taylor's 'evermore' pure sales numbers just give us a more accurate portrayal of how many people actually bought 'folklore'. Solid numbers for her regardless. I expect like most others, that once her physical albums are shipped/in stores that she will get a significant sales boost.
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Post by kanimal on Dec 12, 2020 16:36:17 GMT -5
I think Taylor's 'evermore' pure sales numbers just give us a more accurate portrayal of how many people actually bought 'folklore'. Solid numbers for her regardless. I expect like most others, that once her physical albums are shipped/in stores that she will get a significant sales boost. I think it proves that bundles are a factor, but I don't think you can quite make this comparison. Folklore was her first surprise release, came after a longer stretch between albums (the delay felt like even more than 11 months, since the Lover era started way back in the spring of 2019), and was promoted as being a major change in direction/sound (at a time when her pure, more radio-minded pop seemed to be hitting a wall). This was arguably even more of a surprise, but it didn't feel like as much of an "event" because folklore still seems really fresh. Plus, it didn't have the change of pace factor - it was almost positioned as a B-side to an album that, for all its success, was less conventionally commercial than her past four releases.
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Post by myhouse911 on Dec 12, 2020 16:43:27 GMT -5
Obviously bundles were a factor. Multiple albums of the same tracks but with different cover art available was also a factor. Taylor's fans being unable to buy multiple copies to count this week is also a factor.
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Post by kanimal on Dec 12, 2020 16:46:47 GMT -5
But my contention is that if evermore launched yesterday with the exact same bundling rules/availability that folklore had in July, I'm not certain it would have sold over 600K.
And if folklore had been subject to today's bundling rules and physical availability when it launched in July, I'm confident that it still would have sold more than 150-170K.
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Post by strongerq on Dec 12, 2020 16:54:24 GMT -5
Yeah the first time surprise is always bigger no matter what. But physicals still play an insane part in the album unts for her.
I found this on discord. don't know how accurate it is
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Post by Eloqueen™ on Dec 12, 2020 16:59:37 GMT -5
Was expecting 400k with this, NFL, but I suppose without physicals, without bundling, and everything considered this isn't a terrible figure for Taylor. I hope it clears 1 milli SPS when all is said and done and I will be happy!
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Post by myhouse911 on Dec 12, 2020 16:59:58 GMT -5
kanimal Ah, ifs and buts (there's a saying about that which I cannot recall atm.) That's fine, you're welcome to think she would or would not have sold x amount depending on the scenario. We will never know one way or another. I'm simply saying I think evermore's pure sales is likely similar to the actual number of people who purchased folklore in week 1. It's a steaming world now, which I struggle with accepting since I'm team pure sales lol. So my comment was not to bash the sales method or Taylor, since I'm a fan. It was more so just like, "hmm, so this is likely what her numbers would have been had there not been the various ways to buy folklore"
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Post by fridayteenage on Dec 12, 2020 17:09:40 GMT -5
I think Taylor's 'evermore' pure sales numbers just give us a more accurate portrayal of how many people actually bought 'folklore'. Solid numbers for her regardless. I expect like most others, that once her physical albums are shipped/in stores that she will get a significant sales boost. Of how many people bought Folklore first week digitally, sure.
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Post by areyoureadytojump on Dec 12, 2020 17:15:08 GMT -5
So this will have 150-180k in SEAS.
folkore had:
615K sales, 218K SEA, 13K TEA
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Post by Kinney on Dec 12, 2020 17:15:36 GMT -5
Considering this is only streaming and digital sales from a dying platform (poor iTunes :( ), this is fantastic. Second highest debut for a woman this year, while missing physical sales which have historically been a major chunk of her sales.
If that damn Taylor Swift hadn't released folklore, Taylor Swift could have been #1!
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Post by HolidayGuy on Dec 12, 2020 17:58:05 GMT -5
Coming just four months after folklore, and for reasons already mentioned, this is a good projection.
More notably, it's nice to see two new albums that will easily sail past 100,000. More exciting than last December on the albums chart, if memory serves.
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Post by WolfSpear on Dec 12, 2020 19:12:23 GMT -5
Yeah, we must be stuck inside a black hole if Taylor put out a 2nd album. Weird enough she released Folklore outside the holiday season this year.
100-150k is meh but closer to 300k would be a good start.
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on Dec 12, 2020 20:35:19 GMT -5
evermore does have a digital album that includes a digital booklet on Taylor's website store. All in all, not bad early projected numbers for its first week.
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