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Post by Lost In Musical Reverie on Dec 30, 2020 14:23:14 GMT -5
2020 was opened with a Bieber single 2021 will be opened with a Bieber single.
If this year is s**t aswell, i will blame Bieber.
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Post by lazer on Dec 30, 2020 14:24:44 GMT -5
I'm not expecting the new Bieber song to be a bop, but there is a slight possibility that it might be because of the new year. If it's just another radio filler, keep it.
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Post by iHype. on Dec 30, 2020 14:29:56 GMT -5
Yep, it's crazy that radio is playing his music even more than ever. He truly is the new Maroon 5. Except worse because at least Adam & Co. are smart enough to not push 3 singles at once. Maroon 5's radio hits also DO tend to connect with the public majority of the time. Payphone, One More Night, Sugar, Maps, Animals, Don't Wanna Know, Girls Like You, Memories, etc were just well liked/resonant hits in general I'd say. Yummy, Stuck With U, Monster, Lonely, etc were moreso duds overall. Intentions & 10,000 Hours were the only ones I'd say resonated to some extent overall.
I do think Bieber's current career trajectory is similar to Britney during the early 2010s (3, Hold It Against Me, I Wanna Go, Till the World, Scream & Shout) and Madonna during the mid 90s (This Used to Be My Playground, I'll Remember, Take a Bow, Secret) where the huge phenomenon behind their name has decreased a lot, the album power is a fraction of what it used to be, no longer at the top of the pop star food chain and they're coasting by on radio hits. Whether he experiences a resurgence (Ray Of Light) or just further declines hard (Britney Jean) we will see. |
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Post by jaffery on Dec 30, 2020 14:35:32 GMT -5
Him and Scooter just seem mega chart-hungry right now. And sadly, it's not like people stopped streaming his music, it's not Purpose smashing, but it's still doing goodMonster is the only song he's on that's currently charting in the Spotify Top 50. Lonely at #51 and Holy at #54 round out his remaining singles that are still charting on the Hot 100. At this point, I'd say most of his chart success comes from radio and sales, which tend to prevail in a depressed streaming environment anyway. Lonely is 24th monster is 15th and holy is also in the top 50 somewhere coming out over 100 days ago. he has the most singles charting on Spotify than any artist in the world. He was also gaining 25m streams a day for like 2 months up until just after Christmas and is top 5 on most streamed artists for the last couple of months. you’re a little mistaken to this m he has no Spotify power or something lol. And if you’re referring to us Spotify, that has never mattered because it just means he is less local and more global |
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Post by nathanalbright on Dec 30, 2020 14:39:15 GMT -5
Stop with the pick-me type of posts, it's annoying lmao "mY iDoL iS dIfFeReNt ThAn OtHeRs" I'm getting "I'm different" vibes from the whole discussion. |
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Post by Lost In Musical Reverie on Dec 30, 2020 14:43:07 GMT -5
Rumour has it "ANYONE" is produced by Andrew Watt, responsible for "Break My Heart", "Midnight Sky", and "Take What You Want", to name a few.
My expectations are quite higher now. 😊
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Post by jaffery on Dec 30, 2020 14:44:02 GMT -5
Except worse because at least Adam & Co. are smart enough to not push 3 singles at once. Maroon 5's radio hits also DO tend to connect with the public majority of the time. Payphone, One More Night, Sugar, Maps, Animals, Don't Wanna Know, Girls Like You, Memories, etc were just well liked/resonant hits in general I'd say. Yummy, Stuck With U, Monster, Lonely, etc were moreso duds overall. Intentions & 10,000 Hours were the only ones I'd say resonated to some extent overall.
I do think Bieber's current career trajectory is similar to Britney during the early 2010s (3, Hold It Against Me, I Wanna Go, Till the World, Scream & Shout) and Madonna during the mid 90s (This Used to Be My Playground, I'll Remember, Take a Bow, Secret) where the huge phenomenon behind their name has decreased a lot, the album power is a fraction of what it used to be, no longer at the top of the pop star food chain and they're coasting by on radio hits. Whether he experiences a resurgence (Ray Of Light) or just further declines hard (Britney Jean) we will see. Lonely has the best bieber callouts In years, clearly resonated for some reason, It’s my least fav single from the new ones. |
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Post by WolfSpear on Dec 30, 2020 14:44:12 GMT -5
Way too much product from Bieber and it’ll wear him out.
With that said, Miley Cyrus did a faithful interpretation of Stevie Nicks. That girl really is talented...
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Post by Enigma. on Dec 30, 2020 14:50:40 GMT -5
Except worse because at least Adam & Co. are smart enough to not push 3 singles at once. Maroon 5's radio hits also DO tend to connect with the public majority of the time. Payphone, One More Night, Sugar, Maps, Animals, Don't Wanna Know, Girls Like You, Memories, etc were just well liked/resonant hits in general I'd say. Yummy, Stuck With U, Monster, Lonely, etc were moreso duds overall. Intentions & 10,000 Hours were the only ones I'd say resonated to some extent overall.
I do think Bieber's current career trajectory is similar to Britney during the early 2010s (3, Hold It Against Me, I Wanna Go, Till the World, Scream & Shout) and Madonna during the mid 90s (This Used to Be My Playground, I'll Remember, Take a Bow, Secret) where the huge phenomenon behind their name has decreased a lot, the album power is a fraction of what it used to be, no longer at the top of the pop star food chain and they're coasting by on radio hits. Whether he experiences a resurgence (Ray Of Light) or just further declines hard (Britney Jean) we will see. But he's a male artist? They never decline hard.  |
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Post by Lost In Musical Reverie on Dec 30, 2020 14:54:35 GMT -5
Enigma. Did you forget what happened with Justin Timberlake in 2018? Or Usher struggling to chart beyond the Bubbling Under these days? He could definitely decline hard, especially if he somehow fails to get support from radio in the future.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2020 15:06:37 GMT -5
He's gotta release an album soon. Holy, Lonely, this thing — 3's enough, right? I think radio can deal with this — people like Holy and Lonely enough — but releasing >3 singles before the album would be ridiculous. The quickest way to kill an era nowadays is to release an album. Artists should be releasing everything they can before dropping the album they are on. |
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Post by GP on Dec 30, 2020 15:16:59 GMT -5
Him and Scooter just seem mega chart-hungry right now. And sadly, it's not like people stopped streaming his music, it's not Purpose smashing, but it's still doing goodMonster is the only song he's on that's currently charting in the Spotify Top 50. Lonely at #51 and Holy at #54 round out his remaining singles that are still charting on the Hot 100. At this point, I'd say most of his chart success comes from radio and sales, which tend to prevail in a depressed streaming environment anyway. well this is true, I was basing myself off the last time I checked his streams which was around October when he was top10 WW with both. My mistake |
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Post by GP on Dec 30, 2020 15:17:40 GMT -5
He's gotta release an album soon. Holy, Lonely, this thing — 3's enough, right? I think radio can deal with this — people like Holy and Lonely enough — but releasing >3 singles before the album would be ridiculous. The quickest way to kill an era nowadays is to release an album. Artists should be releasing everything they can before dropping the album they are on. I'm still skeptical artists can't do post-album singles. Dua and Harry were able to. |
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Post by Lost In Musical Reverie on Dec 30, 2020 15:27:43 GMT -5
The quickest way to kill an era nowadays is to release an album. Artists should be releasing everything they can before dropping the album they are on. I'm still skeptical artists can't do post-album singles. Dua and Harry were able to. I think Harry and Dua were more exceptions to the rule since they're still establishing themselves as A-listers. Dua Lipa didn't get an album bomb on the charts, while Harry only had very low debuts, so there wasn't as much familiarity to album cuts compared to artists like Taylor Swift or Post Malone. And of course, another key difference is that both Dua and Harry tend to have moderate debuts that gradually rise over time thanks to growing streaming and radio, whereas Taylor/Ariana/Post/Drake get high debuts. That's just my take on it, of course. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2020 15:38:04 GMT -5
He's gotta release an album soon. Holy, Lonely, this thing — 3's enough, right? I think radio can deal with this — people like Holy and Lonely enough — but releasing >3 singles before the album would be ridiculous. The quickest way to kill an era nowadays is to release an album. Artists should be releasing everything they can before dropping the album they are on. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2020 15:47:04 GMT -5
Monster is the only song he's on that's currently charting in the Spotify Top 50. Lonely at #51 and Holy at #54 round out his remaining singles that are still charting on the Hot 100. At this point, I'd say most of his chart success comes from radio and sales, which tend to prevail in a depressed streaming environment anyway. Lonely is 24th monster is 15th and holy is also in the top 50 somewhere coming out over 100 days ago. he has the most singles charting on Spotify than any artist in the world. He was also gaining 25m streams a day for like 2 months up until just after Christmas and is top 5 on most streamed artists for the last couple of months. you’re a little mistaken to this m he has no Spotify power or something lol. And if you’re referring to us Spotify, that has never mattered because it just means he is less local and more global US Spotify means everything on a thread about a US chart. Global has zero impact. |
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Post by kingvavis on Dec 30, 2020 15:51:06 GMT -5
Enigma. Did you forget what happened with Justin Timberlake in 2018? Or Usher struggling to chart beyond the Bubbling Under these days? He could definitely decline hard, especially if he somehow fails to get support from radio in the future. I fear that Bruno Mars may experience a hard decline in the near future. He may get one more successful era, but I have some doubts. |
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Post by m450n on Dec 30, 2020 15:54:03 GMT -5
I'm going to guess that Anyone is just going to be another Monster or Lonely where he sings about how hard his life was and that it is somehow the masses fault that he had a mental breakdown
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2020 16:08:06 GMT -5
Doesn't Bieber have a bunch of songs in the Amazon Top Ten?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2020 16:17:26 GMT -5
I'm going to guess that Anyone is just going to be another Monster or Lonely where he sings about how hard his life was and that it is somehow the masses fault that he had a mental breakdown Well I suppose that's different than most of the artists who sing about sex drugs, or killin, or maybe not so different. |
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Post by Lost In Musical Reverie on Dec 30, 2020 16:27:52 GMT -5
Enigma. Did you forget what happened with Justin Timberlake in 2018? Or Usher struggling to chart beyond the Bubbling Under these days? He could definitely decline hard, especially if he somehow fails to get support from radio in the future. I fear that Bruno Mars may experience a hard decline in the near future. He may get one more successful era, but I have some doubts. His one-offs post-"24K Magic" have been incredibly underwhelming, and in an era where throwbacks are currently the trend, it's not much of a bad prediction here. As a fan, I really hope not, because Bruno is such a talented singer and phenomenal performer, but given he doesn't have a devoted fanbase, if his new material doesn't resonate with casual listeners, it could lead to a decline. Regardless, I think he could always rely on co-writing and co-producing for other artists, so it's not like he could become completely irrelevant, I think. |
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Post by gikem on Dec 30, 2020 16:59:00 GMT -5
I'm going to guess that Anyone is just going to be another Monster or Lonely where he sings about how hard his life was and that it is somehow the masses fault that he had a mental breakdown Apparently, the song was supposed to be on Camila's last album before it got replaced with My Oh My. |
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Post by iamsorare on Dec 30, 2020 17:18:55 GMT -5
He's gotta release an album soon. Holy, Lonely, this thing — 3's enough, right? I think radio can deal with this — people like Holy and Lonely enough — but releasing >3 singles before the album would be ridiculous. justin and his team just know that the post album singles in the streaming era usually underpeform on the charts so they are going to release all the official singles before the album release. also more hit singles means more SPS numbers for the album sales on billboard 200. |
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Post by iamsorare on Dec 30, 2020 17:21:42 GMT -5
I'm going to guess that Anyone is just going to be another Monster or Lonely where he sings about how hard his life was and that it is somehow the masses fault that he had a mental breakdown Apparently, the song was supposed to be on Camila's last album before it got replaced with My Oh My. yeah,''anyone'' was removed from romance tracklist the last minute and they replaced it with my oh my. after that it was intended to be a bonus track on the Target Exclusive edition of the album but again they didn't include it as a bonus track.also it was Camila's favourite song and that means the label didn't want it,camila fought for it.. so imagine if justin make it a number one smash .I feel sad for her |
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Post by daysintheeast on Dec 30, 2020 17:38:21 GMT -5
could be a good opportunity to score some #1s considering how weak the chart is
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Post by gikem on Dec 30, 2020 18:09:16 GMT -5
Apparently, the song was supposed to be on Camila's last album before it got replaced with My Oh My. yeah,''anyone'' was removed from romance tracklist the last minute and they replaced it with my oh my. after that it was intended to be a bonus track on the Target Exclusive edition of the album but again they didn't include it as a bonus track.also it was Camila's favourite song and that means the label didn't want it,camila fought for it.. so imagine if justin make it a number one smash .I feel sad for her Yikes. I may not be a fan of hers, but that's gross. F**k Syco. |
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Post by saltnpeppa on Dec 30, 2020 19:33:19 GMT -5
Conspiracy theory: Bieber and Camila both have collabs with Shawn that made it onto Wonder so their recent proximity here plus Camila's own boyfriend hoping on the trend of duet remixes (on one of her best friends tracks Lover no less), not to mention the success of My Oh My (not a remix but feels tacked on fill in the blank feature regardless) leads me to Bielieb she won't lose complete ownership of the song she likes that much that easily. Or she might not even care about the track and the songwriting industrial complex will trudge on as usual and I've just overthought this. But if I'm right I called it!
Side note, mapping all these collaborations and relationships these pop stars have is a trip lmao like Camila has collabed with DaBaby who has a song with 24kgoldn whose Mood has a Beiber remix! Like wikirace but its Biebs all the way down.
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Post by wavey. on Dec 30, 2020 19:49:02 GMT -5
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Post by iamsorare on Dec 30, 2020 19:50:24 GMT -5
Anyone music video 4:23 length ..rocky Balboa style
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Post by phieaglesfan712 on Dec 30, 2020 19:54:53 GMT -5
Way too much product from Bieber and it’ll wear him out. With that said, Miley Cyrus did a faithful interpretation of Stevie Nicks. That girl really is talented... Eww, this version of Miley Cyrus is weird. I really liked her music pre-Wrecking Ball. Once she made Wrecking Ball, her quality of music has gone downhill. |
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