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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2020 17:07:41 GMT -5
It could partly be due to the fact that the day after Christmas fell on a Saturday this year. A lot of people normally go back to work the day after Christmas, but since that day is on a weekend this year, the celebrations can extend itself a little bit. Certainly a factor, but I think a small one. Many people take holidays, some businesses (offices) just stay closed every year on the 26th. The numbers seem to reflect a larger amount than those who would have gone back to work. a combination of a Saturday and having nowhere to go to spend your free day though, would explain a lot. |
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Post by π‘πππππ€ on Dec 27, 2020 17:08:28 GMT -5
It could partly be due to the fact that the day after Christmas fell on a Saturday this year. A lot of people normally go back to work the day after Christmas, but since that day is on a weekend this year, the celebrations can extend itself a little bit. Can confirm, the holiday spirit lingers in my house. Iβm not finished being merry yet god damn it |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2020 17:11:08 GMT -5
It could partly be due to the fact that the day after Christmas fell on a Saturday this year. A lot of people normally go back to work the day after Christmas, but since that day is on a weekend this year, the celebrations can extend itself a little bit. Can confirm, the holiday spirit lingers in my house. Iβm not finished being merry yet god damn it Is That normal though for you, or is it due to a year that just plain sucked. |
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Post by π‘πππππ€ on Dec 27, 2020 17:15:21 GMT -5
Can confirm, the holiday spirit lingers in my house. Iβm not finished being merry yet god damn it Is That normal though for you, or is it due to a year that just plain sucked. a little of both? Normally Iβm festive on the 26th and it starts winding down today, but the Christmas lights are ON at the pheebs residence atm |
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Post by Gary on Dec 27, 2020 17:19:28 GMT -5
I donβt think this is a COVID thing. Family celebrations donβt necessarily shut off completely on December 25th. Many may still be in the mood. Which is why some may still play Christmas music on the 26th. Extended vacations. School breaks. Not a COVID specific thing Then Christmas music should have been a lot stronger in 2018/19 on the 26th than it was. it might not be 100% COVID as the reason, but it most certainly based on the evidence is the most dominant. maybe people who aren't locked down, Have businesses/entertainment closed etc, Β just don't get it. Thank you streaming. The Christmas music market is as strong as it has ever been and has been growing every year Anyway that aside. Do you think that people worldwide just shut Christmas music off when the calendar hits the 26th. Or do you think it is reasonable that there might be some spillage to the past Christmas in any year. Not just now ? If not, why? |
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Post by Henry SuΓ‘rez on Dec 27, 2020 17:22:55 GMT -5
Is That normal though for you, or is it due to a year that just plain sucked. a little of both? Normally Iβm festive on the 26th and it starts winding down today, but the Christmas lights are ON at the pheebs residence atm In my house, the Christmas lights stay on until january 6, the traditional day of the Three Wise Men (3 Reyes Magos). |
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Post by kcdawg13 on Dec 27, 2020 17:33:12 GMT -5
I do think we are gonna get a huge dance boom in the COVID fall-out, I expect lots of upbeat tracks becoming hits in the next few years as the lowkey stuff will kind of fall out of style. Cuz, you know. Once everyone is vaccinated and back on track, people are gonna wanna party all the time.
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Post by kingvavis on Dec 27, 2020 17:41:29 GMT -5
I do think we are gonna get a huge dance boom in the COVID fall-out, I expect lots of upbeat tracks becoming hits in the next few years as the lowkey stuff will kind of fall out of style. Cuz, you know. Once everyone is vaccinated and back on track, people are gonna wanna party all the time. As long as we get more Roses, I will be happy |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2020 17:47:36 GMT -5
If we get more songs like "ROSES" I'll probably never listen to the radio again.
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Post by kcdawg13 on Dec 27, 2020 17:50:13 GMT -5
I do think we are gonna get a huge dance boom in the COVID fall-out, I expect lots of upbeat tracks becoming hits in the next few years as the lowkey stuff will kind of fall out of style. Cuz, you know. Once everyone is vaccinated and back on track, people are gonna wanna party all the time. As long as we get more Roses, I will be happy I think we'll see more disco and 80's synth pop influenced hits, because we don't already have enough of those. And we'll probably see more throwbacks to the late 00's/early 10's era of music, I honestly wouldn't be shocked if Pitbull or Flo Rida made a comeback next year. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2020 17:56:11 GMT -5
Then Christmas music should have been a lot stronger in 2018/19 on the 26th than it was. it might not be 100% COVID as the reason, but it most certainly based on the evidence is the most dominant. maybe people who aren't locked down, Have businesses/entertainment closed etc, just don't get it. Thank you streaming. The Christmas music market is as strong as it has ever been and has been growing every year Anyway that aside. Do you think that people worldwide just shut Christmas music off when the calendar hits the 26th. Or do you think it is reasonable that there might be some spillage to the past Christmas in any year. Not just now ? If not, why? There is definitely spillage. We see that in the numbers for the last couple years in streaming. It isn't a lot though. Mainly because by the 26th people are getting back to normalcy. Either work has started, or you are out shopping, doing activities, or visiting. So it's hard to listen to as much music. By the 27th you've had a taste of normalcy and a Christmas music falls aside as life marches on. i do think the jump this year in post 25th streaming was much higher than normal growth. Mostly led I believe by the fact people had literally nothing else to do or were allowed to do. And they just wanted to keep the dream alive a bit longer. without COVID the growth this year would have been much less than it was. I guess we will know in a couple years when we have data for 2021 and 2022 when Sunday is Christmas Day. all I know is I'm not sure I'm going to go crazy first from being forced to stay home, or the still blaring Christmas music. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2020 17:58:35 GMT -5
If we get more songs like "ROSES" I'll probably never listen to the radio again. I remember people saying the same when Closer was charting! I wonder if they did quit, |
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Post by Gary on Dec 27, 2020 18:03:10 GMT -5
Basically my point is that it does not completely shut off on the 26th although I agree there is a significant drop off-this is a long standing thing and not ties specifically to this year
You look back far enough you will see a Christmas song or two chart in January (for example) -- another example Christmas hymns are sung in many churches into January
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Post by Choco on Dec 27, 2020 18:18:09 GMT -5
If we get more songs like "ROSES" I'll probably never listen to the radio again. Be honest, it's almost 2021. Unless you're over 40, on a country without Spotify or have an old car, you weren't listening to the radio anyways. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2020 18:24:52 GMT -5
Basically my point is that it does not completely shut off on the 26th although I agree there is a significant drop off-this is a long standing thing and not ties specifically to this year You look back far enough you will see a Christmas song or two chart in January (for example) -- another example Christmas hymns are sung in many churches into January Sure but those charted because people wanted those specific hits, probably more for the artist. For those few rare examples, there's dozens of Christmas songs that did not linger. normally people get jolted out of the Christmas spirit by life happening. This year I find many,people who would have normally moved on, are still doing the Christmas thing. Simply because they've had nothing to break up the Christmas routine. No visitors. Not leaving the house etc. In other words, habit. i don't think anyone can dispute that this years hold on Christmas music after the 25th is bigger than natural growth can explain. and as usual, my favorite Xmas songs still don't chart. Sigh. |
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Post by Choco on Dec 27, 2020 18:29:02 GMT -5
In my house, the Christmas lights stay on until january 6, the traditional day of the Three Wise Men (3 Reyes Magos). Same in Hungary. I was surprised when I lived in Canada that everyone had their tree up by beginning of December, then removed it on the 26th, while in Hungary everyone sets up their tree on the 23rd and keeps it up until January 6th. As the best of both worlds, I have mine up from beginning of December to Jan 6, haha. In my town it's normal for people to leave the Xmas decorations until February 2nd (that day there's a celebration around a Virgin Mary sighting that supposedly happened here). Tbh by Jan 2nd my family gets bored and we take them all down. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2020 18:34:10 GMT -5
It will be interesting to see what songs Billboard brings back. I really can't see them bringing back songs that were already in heavy decline and were going to fall below fifty with twenty weeks very soon, just to have them leave again in a week or two.
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Post by Gary on Dec 27, 2020 18:35:33 GMT -5
Basically my point is that it does not completely shut off on the 26th although I agree there is a significant drop off-this is a long standing thing and not ties specifically to this year You look back far enough you will see a Christmas song or two chart in January (for example) -- another example Christmas hymns are sung in many churches into January Sure but those charted because people wanted those specific hits, probably more for the artist. For those few rare examples, there's dozens of Christmas songs that did not linger. normally people get jolted out of the Christmas spirit by life happening. This year I find many,people who would have normally moved on, are still doing the Christmas thing. Simply because they've had nothing to break up the Christmas routine. No visitors. Not leaving the house etc. In other words, habit. i don't think anyone can dispute that this years hold on Christmas music after the 25th is bigger than natural growth can explain. and as usual, my favorite Xmas songs still don't chart. Sigh. Only in the last couple years has Christmas music charted in bunches. If you study the older charts where there was only one or two new Christmas hits each year - was that just for the artist? For 50 years or so Billboard had wacky Christmas charting rules - new hits only charted in first year and Christmas hits charted recurrent Streaming has changed the market. More artists are releasing new material, etc. As you acknowledged not everyone shuts music off the second the calendar hits the 26th. There is definitely "spillage". With more music out there, there will be more still around late into the 26th and even into the 27th I contend this all would have happened without Covid |
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Post by chartfreak on Dec 27, 2020 19:10:40 GMT -5
I think Xmas music was stronger this year because multiple families were not together and each family playing their own music increases the plays for particular songs.
As for the drop off, it being a weekend helps soften the blow. Heck, I was still playing Xmas music yesterday and today.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2020 19:14:50 GMT -5
Sure but those charted because people wanted those specific hits, probably more for the artist. For those few rare examples, there's dozens of Christmas songs that did not linger. normally people get jolted out of the Christmas spirit by life happening. This year I find many,people who would have normally moved on, are still doing the Christmas thing. Simply because they've had nothing to break up the Christmas routine. No visitors. Not leaving the house etc. In other words, habit. i don't think anyone can dispute that this years hold on Christmas music after the 25th is bigger than natural growth can explain. and as usual, my favorite Xmas songs still don't chart. Sigh. Only in the last couple years has Christmas music charted in bunches. If you study the older charts where there was only one or two new Christmas hits each year - was that just for the artist? For 50 years or so Billboard had wacky Christmas charting rules - new hits only charted in first year and Christmas hits charted recurrent Streaming has changed the market. More artists are releasing new material, etc. As you acknowledged not everyone shuts music off the second the calendar hits the 26th. There is definitely "spillage". With more music out there, there will be more still around late into the 26th and even into the 27th I contend this all would have happened without Covid You need to look at why streaming Christmas songs took over five years After streaming was a thing before it exploded and who is driving the demand. It most certainly is not the teens. Christmas music was always going to explode on streaming once the soccer moms knew about streaming and how easy it is to load a playlist. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2020 19:19:43 GMT -5
I think Xmas music was stronger this year because multiple families were not together and each family playing their own music increases the plays for particular songs. Exactly. Which is only due to Covid as a reason why those families are not together. |
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Post by Gary on Dec 27, 2020 19:23:29 GMT -5
Only in the last couple years has Christmas music charted in bunches. If you study the older charts where there was only one or two new Christmas hits each year - was that just for the artist? For 50 years or so Billboard had wacky Christmas charting rules - new hits only charted in first year and Christmas hits charted recurrent Streaming has changed the market. More artists are releasing new material, etc. As you acknowledged not everyone shuts music off the second the calendar hits the 26th. There is definitely "spillage". With more music out there, there will be more still around late into the 26th and even into the 27th I contend this all would have happened without Covid You need to look at why streaming Christmas songs took over five years After streaming was a thing before it exploded and who is driving the demand. It most certainly is not the teens. Christmas music was always going to explode on streaming once the soccer moms knew about streaming and how easy it is to load a playlist. "Soccer moms" - really? LOL I think I am done |
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Post by π‘πππππ€ on Dec 27, 2020 19:28:41 GMT -5
Lol I mean sure soccer moms listen to Christmas music but come on
Christmas is far from being solely soccer mom fueled
Also shout out to Rozes for reaching the Spotify 200 on the 25th with βChristmas (Baby Please Come Home)β, keep making that post-chainsmokers coin
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2020 19:41:32 GMT -5
You need to look at why streaming Christmas songs took over five years After streaming was a thing before it exploded and who is driving the demand. It most certainly is not the teens. Christmas music was always going to explode on streaming once the soccer moms knew about streaming and how easy it is to load a playlist. "Soccer moms" - really? LOL I think I am done That was tongue in cheek. I thought you'd get it that I was referring to adults in general who didn't stream music. My bad. BTW, I'm no spring chicken. I listened to my first chart countdown in 1972. I'm well aware of most chart history. I am however new to posting on Pulse rather than just browsing. You can blame the change To posting on Covid, being locked down and bored out of my mind. |
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on Dec 27, 2020 19:44:02 GMT -5
AIWFCIY is already down to #59 at Apple Music.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2020 19:58:11 GMT -5
If we get more songs like "ROSES" I'll probably never listen to the radio again. Be honest, it's almost 2021. Unless you're over 40, on a country without Spotify or have an old car, you weren't listening to the radio anyways. shhhhh but no, you're right. i do like to listen to it occasionally |
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Post by gikem on Dec 27, 2020 19:59:42 GMT -5
Also shout out to Rozes for reaching the Spotify 200 on the 25th with βChristmas (Baby Please Come Home)β, keep making that post-chainsmokers coin I'm surprised anyone remembered that she existed after Roses was a thing. For the record, Roses is still a great song, and the Chainsmokers' YE hits back in 2016-2017 have aged surprisingly well. Not bad for a duo the Internet hated back then (and probably still do because of that concert they tried to put on earlier this year mid-pandemic). |
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Post by jenglisbe on Dec 27, 2020 20:12:20 GMT -5
AIWFCIY is already down to #59 at Apple Music. Already? I'm surprised it took this long. It has held on remarkably well this post-Christmas. |
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Post by π‘πππππ€ on Dec 27, 2020 20:18:02 GMT -5
Also shout out to Rozes for reaching the Spotify 200 on the 25th with βChristmas (Baby Please Come Home)β, keep making that post-chainsmokers coin I'm surprised anyone remembered that she existed after Roses was a thing. For the record, Roses is still a great song, and the Chainsmokers' YE hits back in 2016-2017 have aged surprisingly well. Not bad for a duo the Internet hated back then (and probably still do because of that concert they tried to put on earlier this year mid-pandemic). Rozes has actually put out some solid tracks post-βRosesβ, too. βBurn Wildβ, βR U Mineβ & βUnder the Graveβ are all great tracks that I wish got more attention. |
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Post by mms82 on Dec 27, 2020 20:42:03 GMT -5
why is robbery by juice wrld so strong right now on Spotify? it was only one of like 25 songs to chart on Christmas day that weren't holiday/carti songs and it's up like 140 spots today β it's almost two years old and it's not like it suddenly went viral on TikTok, it's been a popular song on the app for forever
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