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Post by zaclord 🌈 on Nov 16, 2023 8:14:25 GMT -5
If she saves her debut for the last re-recording, I feel like that would be a little anticlimactic since that’s the one the fewest people care about. I can’t see her ending this “eras” reproduction with little flash so if Reputation really is next, what do we think she’s going to do for the debut to make people excited and still produce great sales numbers? Since that was her first album I bet she has a TON of material that was left behind for that album. Double album? Triple album? Side A a re-recording of the original songs and Side B duet versions of them all? I just feel like *something* has to be done because I feel like even many die hard swifties don’t care much about the album. Hell, even Taylor herself is ignoring it on the Eras Tour. It’s not gonna pull in numbers anywhere close to her last few unless she makes it exciting somehow. And to have it be the last re-recording (assuming this), I can’t see her just dropping it and saying “okay that’s it!”
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Post by RoseColoredGirl on Nov 16, 2023 9:04:09 GMT -5
If she saves her debut for the last re-recording, I feel like that would be a little anticlimactic since that’s the one the fewest people care about. I can’t see her ending this “eras” reproduction with little flash so if Reputation really is next, what do we think she’s going to do for the debut to make people excited and still produce great sales numbers? Since that was her first album I bet she has a TON of material that was left behind for that album. Double album? Triple album? Side A a re-recording of the original songs and Side B duet versions of them all? I just feel like *something* has to be done because I feel like even many die hard swifties don’t care much about the album. Hell, even Taylor herself is ignoring it on the Eras Tour. It’s not gonna pull in numbers anywhere close to her last few unless she makes it exciting somehow. And to have it be the last re-recording (assuming this), I can’t see her just dropping it and saying “okay that’s it!” I completely agree with you, although the one appeal I could see for releasing the debut album last is that it would be a full-circle moment, where her final re-record was the beginning of her journey as a songwriter to signify this new chapter of finally owning all of her work. It would be a bit of a stretch though, and I agree it would make a lot more sense to save Reputation (Taylor's Version) for last.
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Post by 👑 Eloquent ™ on Nov 16, 2023 9:20:29 GMT -5
Do you know how many songs didn't make her debut? There are soooo many. People are underestimating what she could do for her debut's re-release. As she knows it's likely her least anticipated re-record so I think she's gonna do more to incentivize people to purchase it. A double album wouldn't surprise me at all (one cd for the debut, the other all unreleased material). Trust she has something up her sleeve. She's always one step ahead.
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Post by kmbgs on Nov 16, 2023 16:26:58 GMT -5
Do you know how many songs didn't make her debut? There are soooo many. People are underestimating what she could do for her debut's re-release. As she knows it's likely her least anticipated re-record so I think she's gonna do more to incentivize people to purchase it. A double album wouldn't surprise me at all (one cd for the debut, the other all unreleased material). Trust she has something up her sleeve. She's always one step ahead. I'd love an album where there were dual produced versions - one side country, one side pop, kinda like how TOMG had both versions. That pop version of that song is really what made me notice her for the first time, so would love that carried through for all the songs on the album (as a non-country fan, I found the entire thing unlistenable when I checked it out recently).
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Post by fireflies on Nov 18, 2023 14:13:48 GMT -5
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Post by ificanthaveyou on Nov 20, 2023 19:53:51 GMT -5
Super surprised they haven’t re-released the Eras Movie with additional content. This could easily get to 200 million US, 300 million worldwide with an extended version re-release
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Post by thezatch on Nov 20, 2023 20:29:46 GMT -5
Super surprised they haven’t re-released the Eras Movie with additional content. This could easily get to 200 million US, 300 million worldwide with an extended version re-release There’s definitely still time to do that. With the way the Christmas / New Year’s holidays fall this year (on a Monday), most schools in the US will be off for over two weeks. I could see an extended cut dropping on 12/22 (alongside Aquabro, Migration, and Anyone But You) and play for another 4 weeks. They’d be smart to remove the show date / time stipulations during holiday break and let it play at least 4 shows per screen every day. Parents will be looking for any excuse to get rid of their kids for a couple of hours and a 3+ hour Taylor Swift concert may be the perfect “babysitter”.
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Nov 20, 2023 20:44:51 GMT -5
I'm excited for it to win Best Picture!
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Post by Au$tin on Nov 20, 2023 21:42:21 GMT -5
I'm excited for it to win Best Picture! Best Original Song for Long Live. You can't convince me it doesn't technically qualify!
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Post by Acid Eyes on Nov 20, 2023 21:49:32 GMT -5
If she saves her debut for the last re-recording, I feel like that would be a little anticlimactic since that’s the one the fewest people care about. I can’t see her ending this “eras” reproduction with little flash so if Reputation really is next, what do we think she’s going to do for the debut to make people excited and still produce great sales numbers? Since that was her first album I bet she has a TON of material that was left behind for that album. Double album? Triple album? Side A a re-recording of the original songs and Side B duet versions of them all? I just feel like *something* has to be done because I feel like even many die hard swifties don’t care much about the album. Hell, even Taylor herself is ignoring it on the Eras Tour. It’s not gonna pull in numbers anywhere close to her last few unless she makes it exciting somehow. And to have it be the last re-recording (assuming this), I can’t see her just dropping it and saying “okay that’s it!” I'm anticipating three releases next year: - reputation TV around Valentine's Day (closest Friday: 2/9)
- Debut TV around July 4 (closest Friday: 7/5)
- TS11 on her 35th birthday (Friday 12/13)
rep will be closer to Red/1989 (vault tracks set up to be #1s) while debut serves more as promo for TS11. I could see her going in a Zach Bryan direction - like experimental country, AAA, folklore-esque, etc, etc. And debut TV serves as her re-introduction to the country world, clearing the way for TS11 to be a huge success.
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Post by †ealsünset on Nov 20, 2023 21:54:35 GMT -5
- reputation TV around Valentine's Day
I'm not getting into predictions but can she PLEASE release New Year's Day (Taylor's Version) on New Year's Day? Who cares that it's a Monday? I'm sure she wants to pull streams away from the version she doesn't own.
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Nov 20, 2023 23:19:37 GMT -5
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Post by †ealsünset on Nov 21, 2023 6:01:52 GMT -5
Just 40%????
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Nov 21, 2023 7:46:33 GMT -5
The negative is quite low compared to the others.
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Post by 👑 Eloquent ™ on Nov 21, 2023 8:44:52 GMT -5
Among 1,000 people with a bunch of politicians. Tf outta here lol
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2023 8:45:01 GMT -5
More in-depth breakdown of the results
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2023 8:49:00 GMT -5
Among 1,000 people with a bunch of politicians. Tf outta here lol That's pretty much the average size of most polls
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Post by 👑 Eloquent ™ on Nov 21, 2023 8:50:02 GMT -5
Among 1,000 people with a bunch of politicians. Tf outta here lol That's pretty much the average size of most polls That very well may be, doesn't change my opinion. lol
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2023 8:55:54 GMT -5
That's pretty much the average size of most polls That very well may be, doesn't change my opinion. lol You just stated facts about the poll lol
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2023 9:24:23 GMT -5
There's a massive smear campaign going on against Taylor in Brazil. Fans go crazy there for artists they love but so do the haters.
It's really unfortunate that the tragic death of fan and the mistakes of the local producers are being used as ammunition against her.
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Post by 85la on Nov 21, 2023 14:28:28 GMT -5
Honestly they should have just postponed or ourtight canceled the show that night. It was reported that over 1000 other people were fainting during the show as well. That is just too hazardous of a situation and the weather was just too extreme.
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Post by suburbandreams on Nov 21, 2023 16:03:06 GMT -5
Honestly they should have just postponed or ourtight canceled the show that night. It was reported that over 1000 other people were fainting during the show as well. That is just too hazardous of a situation and the weather was just too extreme. Friday show could have been held safely with competent local organizers. She has had several concerts with that weather without issue . It was their legal and moral duty to make the concert safe or postpone/ cancel if it wasn’t. Artists and their teams are only responsible for putting on a performance. They don’t have the capability to hire and manage hundreds of staff in a foreign country to ensure a safe show . It was completely reasonable for Taylor to expect an experienced and promoter t4f would be able to put on a safe show and didn’t need to micro managed. Unfortunately that wasn’t the case and so she and her flew to Sao Paoulo instead of home since they now to audit all those shows safety plans . Saturday should have been postponed earlier since it was way to hot. But that to was the duty of the promoter to postpone. Taylor would breech her contact if she canceled or postponed a show without promoter permission or an enumerated reason in the contact with the weather likely didn’t fall into. In general, artists at Taylor’s level really try to avoid postponing shows since it often messes with people’s flights homes . For Taylor, she basically could only have one show postponed to Monday because the rest of the week to get her stage setup in Sao Paoulo. And after that her stage is getting shipped to Australia so she has absolutely no other room in her calendar to have another show in Latin America.
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Post by avamaxstan on Nov 21, 2023 20:52:39 GMT -5
Is there not an Eras Tour thread? I can’t imagine there wouldn’t be, but can’t find it.
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Post by 👑 Eloquent ™ on Nov 22, 2023 5:51:13 GMT -5
That very well may be, doesn't change my opinion. lol You just stated facts about the poll lol Le sigh. And I also said they could gtfoh, as in I don't put too much stock in it, but yeah, nice chatting with ya. -> ;)
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2023 10:02:12 GMT -5
Is there not an Eras Tour thread? I can’t imagine there wouldn’t be, but can’t find it. I haven't seen one
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Post by bat1990 on Nov 22, 2023 10:10:42 GMT -5
She already has two threads for Midnights and the Taylor's Versions. Are you talking about the film? or in the Live Shows section?
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Post by avamaxstan on Nov 22, 2023 10:46:52 GMT -5
She already has two threads for Midnights and the Taylor's Versions. Are you talking about the film? or in the Live Shows section? The live tour. I was surprised as its the biggest tour of all time and the defining pop culture event of the year. And now all the controversy over the fan death at the Rio show.
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Post by Normi on Nov 22, 2023 16:24:09 GMT -5
Taylor on the Year-End Charts 2023
Hot 100 4. Anti-Hero 18. Cruel Summer 27. Karma (ft. Ice Spice) 32. Lavender Haze
Billboard 200 2. Midnights 9. Lover 11. Speak Now (Taylor's Version) 12. folklore 16. 1989 17. Red (Taylor's Version) 21. reputation 29. evermore 43. Fearless (Taylor's Version) 115. Speak Now
Global 200 4. Anti-Hero 27. Cruel Summer 67. Blank Space 72. Lavender Haze 88. Karma (ft. Ice Spice) 120. Style 143. Shake It Off 145. cardigan 153. Lover 161. Don't Blame Me
Global 200 excl. U.S. 8. Anti-Hero 47. Cruel Summer 79. Blank Space 122. Style 143. Karma (ft. Ice Spice) 158. Lavender Haze 163. Shake It Off 181. cardigan
Streaming Songs 5. Anti-Hero 23. Cruel Summer 46. Lavender Haze 48. Karma
Radio Songs 3. Anti-Hero 15. Karma 17. Cruel Summer 26. Lavender Haze
Digital Song Sales 1. Anti-Hero 28. Cruel Summer 40. Karma (ft. Ice Spice)
Catalog Albums 1. 1989 2. reputation 6. evermore 7. Lover 16. Fearless (Taylor's Version) 38. Speak Now
Top Album Sales 1. Midnights 2. Speak Now (Taylor's Version) 6. folklore 8. Lover 14. evermore 16. Red (Taylor's Version) 23. Fearless (Taylor's Version) 81. 1989 84. folklore (The Long Pond Studio Sessions)
Top Current Album Sales 1. Midnights 2. Speak Now (Taylor's Version) 6. folklore 14. Red (Taylor's Version) 26. Lover 59. folklore (The Long Pond Studio Sessions)
Tastemakers Albums 1. Midnights 4. folklore (The Long Pond Studio Sessions) 8. Speak Now (Taylor's Version) 9. folklore 15. 1989
Vinyl Albums 1. Midnights 2. Speak Now (Taylor's Version) 4. folklore 8. evermore 12. Lover 17. Red (Taylor's Version) 23. Fearless (Taylor's Version) 25. folklore (The Long Pond Studio Sessions)
Pop Airplay Songs 9. Anti-Hero 11. Cruel Summer 13. Karma 15. Lavender Haze
Adult Contemporary Songs 2. Anti-Hero 13. Cruel Summer 18. Karma 49. Lavender Haze
Adult Pop Airplay Songs 2. Anti-Hero 9. Karma 14. Cruel Summer 16. Lavender Haze
Hot Country Songs 54. I Can See You (Taylor's Version) (From The Vault) 69. Enchanted (Taylor's Version)
Top Country Albums 4. Speak Now (Taylor's Version) 5. Red (Taylor's Version) 9. Fearless (Taylor's Version) 18. Speak Now 41. Taylor Swift 43. Fearless
Top Rock & Alternative Albums 2. folklore 5. evermore 75. folklore (The Long Pond Studio Sessions)
Top Alternative Albums 1. folklore 2. evermore 41. folklore (The Long Pond Studio Sessions)
Alternative Streaming Songs 15. cardigan 24. august
Dance/Mix Show Airplay Songs 9. Anti-Hero 30. Lavender Haze
#1 Top Artist #1 Top Artist - Female #1 Global 200 Artist #1 Global 200 excl. U.S. Artist #1 Billboard 200 Artist #1 Billboard 200 Artist - Female #1 Radio Songs Artist #1 Digital Song Sales Artist #1 Catalog Artist #1 Top Album Sales Artist #1 Pop Airplay Artist #1 Adult Contemporary Artist #1 Adult Pop Airplay Artist #1 Top Country Artist - Female #1 Top Alternative Albums Artist #1 Dance/Mix Show Airplay Artist #1 Hot 100 Songwriter #2 Hot 100 Artist - Female #2 Top Country Albums Artist #2 Top Rock & Alternative Albums Artist #2 Top Alternative Artist #3 Hot 100 Artist #3 Streaming Songs Artist #4 Top Country Artist #5 Top Rock & Alternative Artist #6 Hot Country Songs Artist #6 Country Streaming Songs Artist #7 Hot Country Songwriter #8 Alternative Streaming Songs Artist
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Post by jenglisbe on Nov 22, 2023 21:35:00 GMT -5
If she saves her debut for the last re-recording, I feel like that would be a little anticlimactic since that’s the one the fewest people care about. I can’t see her ending this “eras” reproduction with little flash so if Reputation really is next, what do we think she’s going to do for the debut to make people excited and still produce great sales numbers? Since that was her first album I bet she has a TON of material that was left behind for that album. Double album? Triple album? Side A a re-recording of the original songs and Side B duet versions of them all? I just feel like *something* has to be done because I feel like even many die hard swifties don’t care much about the album. Hell, even Taylor herself is ignoring it on the Eras Tour. It’s not gonna pull in numbers anywhere close to her last few unless she makes it exciting somehow. And to have it be the last re-recording (assuming this), I can’t see her just dropping it and saying “okay that’s it!” I know it's probably the one people care about least, but the debut is probably the one I've been most excited for lol. Her voice has gotten so much better since then that hearing a solid song like "Our Song" with her current voice (and hopefully not the faux accent) will be surely be great.
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Post by HEADOFTHEPACK on Nov 22, 2023 21:54:58 GMT -5
I think she will very much play on the 'this is where it all started' thing. I actually think Rep being last would be stranger.
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