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Post by Juan Carlos on Feb 22, 2021 14:41:39 GMT -5
"Love Story (Taylor's Version)" debuts at #11 on the Hot 100.
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Post by 𝕡𝕙𝕖𝕖𝕓𝕤 on Feb 22, 2021 15:41:19 GMT -5
I hate #11 peaks 😭
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Post by onebuffalo on Feb 22, 2021 15:53:19 GMT -5
#1 debut on the Hot Country Songs chart.
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Post by 𝕡𝕙𝕖𝕖𝕓𝕤 on Feb 22, 2021 18:25:54 GMT -5
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Post by fearlessarrow on Feb 22, 2021 22:50:28 GMT -5
While it’s sad to see it miss a top 10 debut, it’s amazing that a re-recording of a song has enough pull to debut at #11 on the Hot 100. Not many can pull that off.
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Post by neverduplicated on Feb 22, 2021 23:39:02 GMT -5
While it’s sad to see it miss a top 10 debut, it’s amazing that a re-recording of a song has enough pull to debut at #11 on the Hot 100. Not many can pull that off. It is amazing! The placement at #11 makes me think perhaps Taylor is not concerned with the peaks of these re-recorded hits. It would have only taken a little push to get a top 10 - some playlisting, a discount, or some physical CD singles - but she really didn't try to push the song at all. I'm ok with this considering the originals already had their chart runs. It's also worth noting that if the original version had been combined with Taylor's version, "Love Story" would have easily been top 10 this week, and Fearless would've been considerably higher on the Billboard 200.
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Post by nickd on Feb 23, 2021 11:24:34 GMT -5
Billboard 200 positions this week thanks to the Love Story re-recording boost.
6. (+5) Evermore 15. (+7) Folklore 32. (+21) Lover 60. (+26) 1989 63. (+98) Fearless 97. (+93) Red 119. (+51) reputation 121. (RE) Speak Now
Most artists that charted this many albums simultaneously only did it with a death boost. I believe Drake only charted 7 simultaneously.
Eminem charted 8 albums with MMLP2's release in 2013.
#1 Marshall Mathers LP 2 #30 Marshall Mathers LP #58 The Eminem Show #64 Recovery #94 Curtain Call #115 The Slim Shady LP #158 Encore #159 Relapse
Others that charted 8 or more simultaneously without a death.
Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young (July 17 1971)
#10 4 Way Street (Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young) #15 Songs For Beginners (Graham Nash) #64 After The Gold Rush (Neil Young) #103 Stephen Stills II (Stephen Stills) #112 Deja Vu (Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young) #123 Everybody Knows This Is Nowhere (Neil Young & Crazy Horse) #163 Stephen Stills (Stephen Stills) #167 If I Could Only Remember My Name (David Crosby)
Wikipedia counts this as 8 albums charted by the supergroup, but I would say this doesn't really count. The supergroup charted 2 albums, and then the 4 individual members charted 1-2 albums each as solo artists.
Led Zeppelin (Oct 27, 1979)
#1 In Through The Out Door #91 Houses of the Holy #101 Led Zeppelin IV #130 Physical Graffiti #150 Led Zeppelin II #164 The Songs Remains The Same #174 Led Zeppelin I #183 Led Zeppelin #189 Led Zeppelin III
The Beatles (March 1, 2014) (airing of The Night That Changed America: A Grammy Salute to The Beatles television special)
#20 1 #62 Love #82 Abbey Road #98 Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band #103 Rubber Soul #119 The Beatles (White Album) #137 The Beatles (1967-1970) #145 On Air: Live At The BBC Volume 2 #150 A Hard Day's Night #154 The Beatles 1962-1966 #156 Revolver #170 Meet The Beatles! #186 Hey Jude
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Post by nickd on Feb 23, 2021 14:23:39 GMT -5
Spotify Top 50 Albums Charts Week of Feb 12-18; Evermore (week 10)
#7 (=) Canada #8 (-1) Philippines #8 (-1) Ireland #9 (-1) United States #9 (+1) Australia #9 (+1) Singapore #11 (-1) United Kingdom #11 (=) Malaysia #12 (-1) Hong Kong #15 (-3) Vietnam #16 (=) New Zealand #17 (-1) Taiwan #22 (-6) Thailand #26 (-1) India #26 (-4) South Africa #27 (-3) Belgium #32 (+1) Denmark #32 (-7) Netherlands #33 (-3) Israel #37 (=) Hungary #39 (-1) Indonesia #39 (-5) Norway #46 (-3) Romania #48 (-5) Austria #48 (-8) Sweden
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Post by nickd on Feb 23, 2021 14:46:43 GMT -5
Spotify Top 50 Albums Charts Week of Feb 12-18; Folklore
#11 (+2) Philippines #13 (+6) Canada #15 (+11) United States #15 (+2) Ireland #22 (+4) United Kingdom #23 (+15) Malaysia #23 (+6) Vietnam #24 (+5) Hong Kong #25 (+3) Australia #26 (+5) Singapore #30 (+1) New Zealand #47 (RE) Thailand
Spotify Top 50 Albums Charts Week of Feb 12-18; Lover
#13 (+4) Philippines #27 (+3) Singapore #28 (+3) Hong Kong #35 (+7) Vietnam #38 (RE) Canada #42 (RE) United States #42 (+7) Australia #43 (+7) Malaysia #43 (RE) Ireland #46 (RE) Thailand
Spotify Top 50 Albums Charts Week of Feb 12-18; 1989
#18 (+14) Philippines #25 (+18) Ireland #29 (+18) Singapore #31 (+12) Australia #33 (+6) Vietnam #37 (RE) United Kingdom #39 (RE) Malaysia #47 (RE) India #48 (RE) Canada #49 (RE) United States #50 (RE) Thailand
Spotify Top 50 Albums Charts Week of Feb 12-18; Fearless
#10 (+29) Philippines #35 (RE) United States #37 (RE) Ireland #38 (RE) Singapore #43 (RE) Canada #48 (RE) Malaysia
Spotify Top 50 Albums Charts Week of Feb 12-18; Red
#21 (+22) Philippines #48 (RE) Ireland
Spotify Top 50 Albums Charts Week of Feb 12-18; Speak Now
#25 (RE) Philippines
Spotify Top 50 Albums Charts Week of Feb 12-18; reputation
#42 (RE) Philippines
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Post by nickd on Feb 23, 2021 14:54:28 GMT -5
Countries with most Taylor Swift albums in their Spotify Top 50
(8) Philippines (6) Ireland (5) United States, Canada, Malaysia, Singapore (4) Australia, Thailand, Vietnam (3) United Kingdom, Hong Kong (2) India, New Zealand (1) Taiwan, South Africa, Belgium, Denmark, Netherlands, Israel, Hungary, Indonesia, Norway, Romania, Austria, Sweden
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Post by Taylor. on Mar 1, 2021 10:23:17 GMT -5
idk which thread of hers to post this in but
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Post by gbaby on Mar 1, 2021 10:38:07 GMT -5
I felt the hell out of that response. It's the this outfit doesn't look cute on you for me!
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Post by jodakyellow on Mar 1, 2021 11:28:34 GMT -5
It's a hack joke in every way, and probably shouldn't have been used (even if just from a quality-of-writing perspective), but idk how I feel about calling out Netflix... Like, what is her expectation for Netflix to exercise control over mean-spirited jokes toward celebrities?
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Post by jenglisbe on Mar 1, 2021 15:12:45 GMT -5
It's a hack joke in every way, and probably shouldn't have been used (even if just from a quality-of-writing perspective), but idk how I feel about calling out Netflix... Like, what is her expectation for Netflix to exercise control over mean-spirited jokes toward celebrities? Well, and she made her relationships a central part of her career for awhile (literally using names in some songs, using known references in others, and then having hidden clues in album artwork) so she sort of made comments about her relationships fair game. I agree it's a hack joke and certainly thing there are many double standards when it comes to women, but Swift should at least own that she played a part in the way she's viewed.
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Post by Ling-Ling on Mar 1, 2021 16:23:19 GMT -5
Taylor, there's people that are dying.
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Post by gbaby on Mar 1, 2021 17:23:05 GMT -5
Eek. People also die as a result of misogyny and sexism. Let's not pretend both have stopped because of COVID.
She also is damned if she does, damned if she doesn't. She's accused of either doing too much or not enough. In this instance, I think using her platform and calling out a juggernaut like Netflix is bold, but absolutely vital. Otherwise, she's sitting in silence to placate those who continuously disrespect women.
Nevertheless, she persisted.....
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Post by ampersand on Mar 1, 2021 17:28:26 GMT -5
Eek. People also die as a result of misogyny and sexism. Let's not pretend both have stopped because of COVID. Well, yes, but this specific situation is not at all comparable. Taylor's life is not at risk because of some dumb joke. She'll be fine.
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Post by gbaby on Mar 1, 2021 17:32:06 GMT -5
Eek. People also die as a result of misogyny and sexism. Let's not pretend both have stopped because of COVID. Well, yes, but this specific situation is not at all comparable. Taylor's life is not at risk because of some dumb joke. She'll be fine. And when Jews were made fun of, it was largely discounted in the same way, and yet....
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Post by Ling-Ling on Mar 1, 2021 17:42:09 GMT -5
And when Jews were made fun of, it was largely discounted in the same way, and yet.... Okay Gina Carano.
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Post by ampersand on Mar 1, 2021 17:48:54 GMT -5
Well, yes, but this specific situation is not at all comparable. Taylor's life is not at risk because of some dumb joke. She'll be fine. And when Jews were made fun of, it was largely discounted in the same way, and yet.... First they came for the pop stars, and I did not speak out—because I was not a pop star.
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Post by Snowbeast on Mar 1, 2021 17:51:42 GMT -5
Eek. People also die as a result of misogyny and sexism. Let's not pretend both have stopped because of COVID. She also is damned if she does, damned if she doesn't. She's accused of either doing too much or not enough. In this instance, I think using her platform and calling out a juggernaut like Netflix is bold, but absolutely vital. Otherwise, she's sitting in silence to placate those who continuously disrespect women. Nevertheless, she persisted..... This joke isn’t sexist. It’s dated and unfunny, but it’s not sexist. I get that she doesn’t like her narrative and reputation amongst the general public, but she hasn’t effectively shifted it, so she can’t be surprised. If anything, she’s capitalized on it when it’s been convenient (Blank Space), and crucified anyone else in the entertainment industry for doing the same. She had several high profile relationships, and combined with being one of the biggest stars of the century that was releasing music strategically filled with Easter-eggs that referenced paparazzi pics of her dates (or just flat out naming the man), led to uncharted levels of fan investment AND public scrutiny. Every positive value has its price in negative terms.
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Post by gbaby on Mar 1, 2021 17:52:02 GMT -5
Or, more simply, lets agree that calling out those who disrespect women is in everyone's best interest.
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Post by Mayman on Mar 1, 2021 19:13:58 GMT -5
Taylor can defend herself against whatever the fuck she wants. People cannot determine how she should or shouldn't feel.
And the two jokes under fire are absolutely sexist. One uses Taylor as a benchmark for slut shaming, while the other basically says she owes her career to the men she dated. How is that okay?
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Post by Choco on Mar 1, 2021 19:38:36 GMT -5
The joke is stupid and unfunny. Robert Downey Jr. got into a mess last year by making a similar joke on Ellen. It's 2021 people. Taylor's narrative has changed way too much for this old ass 2013 tea to be made into unfunny jokes. She's been on a longterm relationship for years now. Your joke is dated and inaccurate.
BUT... I think the fan backlash was already enough of a response. She's not wrong for addressing it, but imagine if every celebrity starts trying to censor jokes about them. Wendy Williams says far worse shit on her show on a daily basis and celebrities carry on ignoring it. Taylor has also survived far worse so why even dignify that crap with a response.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2021 21:29:51 GMT -5
Her tweet was completely unhinged lmfao and just caused the Streisand effect for such an insignificant and basic lame joke. It’s not even a big show like Taylor let these people live god damn 💀💀💀💀 can’t wait to see the Netflix burning tour pieces at her next concert and hope it gets special mention during the Grammys.
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Post by nas on Mar 1, 2021 21:38:14 GMT -5
The idea that someone responding to a slut shaming joke made about them is too much is gross. She has every right to say something. The Netflix reach is a little much IMO but the idea that she should have just let it go when she’s had incredibly sexist commentary since she was a teen is exactly what leads to so many thinking it’s no big deal. How that compares to her satiric Blank Space is beyond me.
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Post by cjay on Mar 1, 2021 21:38:35 GMT -5
The joke was stupid and dated, but I don't really think Taylor needed to respond. And calling out Netflix won't help. In fact, responding to this only makes the general public think worse of her. I dunno, this just seemed so insignificant to call out.
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Post by Au$tin on Mar 1, 2021 21:49:24 GMT -5
Well, yes, but this specific situation is not at all comparable. Taylor's life is not at risk because of some dumb joke. She'll be fine. And when Jews were made fun of, it was largely discounted in the same way, and yet.... You're right. People already try to gaslight female pop stars. Gassing them in concentration camps is the next logical step.
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Post by nickd on Mar 1, 2021 21:58:08 GMT -5
Her fans were already causing the issue to go viral yesterday, so I can see that being part of the reason why she felt she should say something.
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Post by ificanthaveyou on Mar 1, 2021 22:13:27 GMT -5
I don’t think Taylor even cares that the joke is about her... I think the point is, sexist jokes like that shouldn’t be made at all. Taylor could choose to keep quiet and not ruffle any feathers but nothing changes then. People will continue to put women down and make degrading, sexist remarks and it would be okay.
Taylor knows that if she speaks up NOW, maybe it will prevent it from happening to someone else. Maybe it will make the writers think twice before making sexist remarks. I get why she tagged Netflix, she has close relations with the company and why not go directly to the top if you have that kind of pull. Netflix is like Ellen in her situation. If they are green-lighting these shows, the should make sure they align with their company’s values.
This is the same Taylor that sued a man $1 for grabbing her butt. It’s not about the money or retribution for her. It’s standing up for ALL women by being loud and drawing attention to these things...
The joke could have easily been “OMG you’re like John Mayer with all these love interests” but it’s easier to throw a woman under the bus...
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