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Post by taylor on Apr 19, 2021 14:01:32 GMT -5
Anyone else feel like female should’ve gone to Kelsea this year? I love Maren but really all she had was the tail of “The Bones” chart run and then “To Hell & Backs” chart run which was nothing special. Kelsea had HQ’s end of its chart run, along with HITB’s. As well as releasing two albums. Also remember seeing her on multiple talk shows last year. Maren also had "The Bones" wind up crossing over tho, and it's still a behemoth on pop radio right now. To this day, if I go to the pop stations my area has, I still hear that song at least three times a day. HITB, while a #1 hit, doesn't have that massive crossover status to its credit.
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Post by daddy on Apr 20, 2021 13:57:41 GMT -5
Anyone know where I can watch the full award show for free? (International here)
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Post by stanches2318 on Apr 20, 2021 18:30:20 GMT -5
Try paramount +
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Post by country11 on Apr 21, 2021 8:51:26 GMT -5
Anyone else feel like female should’ve gone to Kelsea this year? I love Maren but really all she had was the tail of “The Bones” chart run and then “To Hell & Backs” chart run which was nothing special. Kelsea had HQ’s end of its chart run, along with HITB’s. As well as releasing two albums. Also remember seeing her on multiple talk shows last year. You make a solid point, but Kelsea just feels so non-event compared to Maren. Maren felt like a real representation of country, even if she didn't have specifically huge success within the past year. Just personal preference, but I lean to Kelsea feeling like a more real representation of country with what's she's put out lately. If we are going with real representation of country and success this past year then I really don't know how Miranda Lambert isn't the winner. She respects the genre's past and present and shows it in her music and performances.
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Post by d3vin44 on Apr 21, 2021 11:34:22 GMT -5
Chart/sales success aside. Maren stood WAY out from the others as someone using her status for good. She’s spent the year being very outspoken when the others didn’t. Or if they did, were not successful in doing so. This is what would have given her the edge and my vote.
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Post by carrieidol1 on Apr 21, 2021 11:41:10 GMT -5
Anyone know where I can watch the full award show for free? (International here) If you sign up for a free trial with CBS, you can watch it through their app... just make sure to cancel it before it auto renews or you’ll get charged something like $5 per month. I suppose you could do the same with Paramount +, but that just launched so I don’t know if they’re doing a trial. Not sure if CBS does a free trial, either, but most usually offer a period for free before they charge you.
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Post by jenglisbe on Apr 22, 2021 21:19:36 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2021 23:39:02 GMT -5
Can she give us an example of of a current single or recent hit that was written by a black person?
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Post by lady𝓐fan on Apr 23, 2021 0:09:15 GMT -5
^ Pretty sure that’s her point, though. There’s an evident lack of opportunity at the lower levels of the industry for non-white people.
Also, to kind of qualify/add on to that tweet (I’m 99% sure I agree with her but it’s always a little harder to interpret things online), the diversity shown in the ACMs may be somewhat performative now, but visibility is key in encouraging more diversity in the industry (and of course visibility on its own isn’t enough, but it’s a step in the right direction).
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Post by jenglisbe on Apr 23, 2021 20:50:31 GMT -5
Can she give us an example of of a current single or recent hit that was written by a black person? It's likely something Shy Carter or Kane Brown were part of, so Keith Urban or Kane Brown circa 2020. And that's the entire point; even when you give spotlight to some Black singers, there is still a lack of representation in the industry as a whole. Even when Black singers get some exposure in country music, they are usually singing songs written by white people. (I'm not sure when Kane Brown last did well with a song he wrote, but it could be a bit more recent if it wasn't co-written by Carter.)
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Post by taylor on Apr 23, 2021 21:37:46 GMT -5
Can she give us an example of of a current single or recent hit that was written by a black person? It's likely something Shy Carter or Kane Brown were part of, so Keith Urban or Kane Brown circa 2020. And that's the entire point; even when you give spotlight to some Black singers, there is still a lack of representation in the industry as a whole. Even when Black singers get some exposure in country music, they are usually singing songs written by white people. (I'm not sure when Kane Brown last did well with a song he wrote, but it could be a bit more recent if it wasn't co-written by Carter.) So I went to do some research on this and came back with some illuminating stats about the co-writing, as well as some stats about his chart history. Kane Brown, Shy Carter, and Swae Lee, and Khalid are the only Black songwriters I see across Brown's main discography (his two studio albums and 2020 EP, with those latter two co-writing a song on the EP). Brown co-wrote 10 out of the 15 tracks on his debut, all but one of the 15 tracks of his second studio album Experiment, and all seven tracks of his latest EP, Mixtape Vol. 1. Shy Carter co-wrote only two songs ("Learning" and "Heaven") on the debut album (one of them with Brown), only one song on Experiment (this one, "Good As You," was again co-written with Brown), and only two ("Didn't Know Love Was Like That" and "Worldwide Beautiful") of the seven EP tracks, both of which were co-written with Brown. Kane Brown is currently doing well with "Worship You" as well as the collab with Chris Young, "Famous Friends," and he just had a pop radio hit with "Be Like That" in 2020, which hit the Top 10 and Top 20 of the Billboard Mainstream Top 40 and Hot 100, respectively. At country radio, the latest time Kane did well with a song he wrote was "Cool Again," which hit #3 on Billboard's Country Airplay.
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