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Post by fearlessarrow on Jul 10, 2021 6:08:24 GMT -5
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Post by Clode on Jul 10, 2021 8:59:51 GMT -5
What song are they even being credited for? โCruel Summerโ? And if so, thatโs such a loose comparison. Yeah it's Cruel Summer. It's the only song that has those three all credited. I do agree, though. They're similar, sure, but not enough to warrant an actual credited sample. But, hey, we can thank the Marvin Gaye estate for this horrible trend! I am very curious as to who set this up. I can't see Taylor being the one to seek credit. Perhaps it was her label? One of the other two songwriters of Cruel Summer? Hell, maybe it was even on Olivia's team's end to avoid a lawsuit after seeing the comparisons online. (Though the good 4 u/Misery Business comparisons were much more evident and talked about.) Well in that case if Hayley Williams or her Label want to seek credit for "Good 4 U" then they probably would be able to do so. Sure these songs sound similar to each other but that wouldn't necessary mean that Olivia's team would be hit with lawsuits from the labels of Taylor and Hayley just cause of their similarities, Although I believe that Taylor's label did it as a precaution for the reason that you pointed out.
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Post by neverduplicated on Jul 10, 2021 9:21:17 GMT -5
The similarities are undeniable and always have been, but lots of songs are clearly inspired by other songs. The number one similarity I hear that could constitute a writing credit is between โI donโt wanna keep secrets just to keep youโ and โI know you get deja vu.โ The notes, rhythm, and screaming style are extremely similar. To get a writing credit you only need one line like this to be similar. The writing credit doesnโt mean the whole song is copied. Iโm very curious what went down here.
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Post by Eqbk on Jul 10, 2021 9:24:25 GMT -5
I don't think it would be the record labels seeking writing credits. As far as I know, record labels don't generally get a cut of a songwriter's royalties for another artist's album, on another label. Isn't usually the songwriter (or a representative of the songwriter) that goes after this kind of stuff? Since it's the songwriter(s) that would actually benefit.
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Post by Normi on Jul 10, 2021 9:24:46 GMT -5
I have a strange feeling that Taylor co-wrote this lol. He called it ยฏ\_(ใ)_/ยฏ
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Post by Fat Ass Kelly Price on Jul 10, 2021 9:32:23 GMT -5
This is ridiculous and unnecessarily litigious. I wish someone would come for Taylor in the same manner, because sheโs been more transparently โinspiredโ than this example here.
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Post by Clode on Jul 10, 2021 9:55:47 GMT -5
This is ridiculous and unnecessarily litigious. I wish someone would come for Taylor in the same manner, because sheโs been more transparently โinspiredโ than this example here. Yeah it really is just silly because unlike the obvious similarities with "Misery Business" and "Good 4 U", I barley hear any similarities with "Cruel Summer" and this song. Just because certain lyrics are similar to one another shouldn't mean that writing credits from Taylor's team needed to happen.
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Post by Eqbk on Jul 10, 2021 10:44:51 GMT -5
I hope Lana is taking notes and gets in touch with Taylor ASAP to talk about getting writing credits for Wildest Dreams, lol.
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Post by fearlessarrow on Jul 11, 2021 6:06:20 GMT -5
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Post by Henry Suรกrez on Jul 11, 2021 12:08:20 GMT -5
Good 4 U and Deja Vu are both smashing on Pop and Hot AC at the same time, she's the radio darling of 2021!
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Post by kanimal on Jul 11, 2021 12:36:33 GMT -5
Annoying that major media outlets have covered the credit situation, but none (that I've seen) has explained the impetus. Surely someone has the sources to confirm what happened?
Taylor's side *seeking* credit from Olivia in a litigious manner, given the whole mother-daughter thing, would be a story. Especially after Taylor's hard campaign to get the #1 album (at the expense of SOUR) a few weeks ago.
On the other hand, it'd be unfair/unethical to let people assume that Team Taylor reached out, when it's just as possible that Olivia proactively wanted to give credit - not so much to prevent a lawsuit but to pay homage to her idol.
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Post by PREDS PRIDE on Jul 11, 2021 17:19:38 GMT -5
THIS SONG IS LITERALLY HAUNTING MY LIFE. OLIVIA IS TOO. I HEAR THIS SONG AND HER SONGS LITERALLY EVERYWHERE AND IT'S HONESTLY COOL CAUSE I LIKE IT BUT ALSO CREEPY SO YEAH
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Post by AP on Jul 11, 2021 17:57:56 GMT -5
On the other hand, it'd be unfair/unethical to let people assume that Team Taylor reached out, when it's just as possible that Olivia proactively wanted to give credit - not so much to prevent a lawsuit but to pay homage to her idol. When youโre giving away 3/5ths of revenue of a (very successful hit) song, thatโs a major business decision and not one anyone would do solely to pay homage. Besides, she already did that with the 1 Step Forward/New Years Day interpolation. Olivia had no problem admitting that she was inspired by Cruel Summerโs bridge but inspiration does and should not mean you need to formally credit the writers. Itโs clear that wasnโt the case here, with the retroactive credit. Itโs not going to make a mark on Oliviaโs career in the long run, but itโs a pretty awkward look to have to credit Taylor Swift on 2 of the 11 songs on your debut album - none being โtrueโ writing credits.
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Post by fearlessarrow on Jul 12, 2021 6:15:14 GMT -5
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Post by fearlessarrow on Jul 13, 2021 6:29:51 GMT -5
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Post by fearlessarrow on Jul 14, 2021 6:10:06 GMT -5
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Post by fearlessarrow on Jul 15, 2021 6:13:16 GMT -5
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Post by fearlessarrow on Jul 16, 2021 6:10:59 GMT -5
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Post by irvine22 on Jul 16, 2021 10:02:46 GMT -5
Ugh. She seems like a nice gal but I was over the Taylor inspo/conversation on my second listen. She absolutely needs to distance herself ASAP. Not just for her own musical identity but it also disservices her own artistry
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Post by Au$tin on Jul 16, 2021 11:07:06 GMT -5
Ugh. She seems like a nice gal but I was over the Taylor inspo/conversation on my second listen. She absolutely needs to distance herself ASAP. Not just for her own musical identity but it also disservices her own artistry She has. Have you heard the song at #2 on the charts?
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Post by Choco on Jul 16, 2021 11:30:06 GMT -5
Or "brutal". Or "jealousy, jealousy", which is a more scathing takedown than anything found on reputation. (Remember "This is Why We Can't Have Nice Things"? lmao).
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Post by irvine22 on Jul 16, 2021 13:02:54 GMT -5
Ugh. She seems like a nice gal but I was over the Taylor inspo/conversation on my second listen. She absolutely needs to distance herself ASAP. Not just for her own musical identity but it also disservices her own artistry She has. Have you heard the song at #2 on the charts? If itโs on the album, yes. I mentioned listening to the album more than once... Iโve also seen Song Association where she name dropped her an uncomfortable number of times. And Iโve also heard the 2 tracks that (now) have Taylor credits on them. Like I said, I hope the next project has a more fleshed out Olivia
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Post by theflying on Jul 16, 2021 18:59:15 GMT -5
Or "brutal". Or "jealousy, jealousy", which is a more scathing takedown than anything found on reputation. (Remember "This is Why We Can't Have Nice Things"? lmao). Iโm a Taylor stan but, just, to meโฆ.thatโs a skip. It just adds nothing to her discography.
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Post by fearlessarrow on Jul 17, 2021 6:11:08 GMT -5
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Post by fearlessarrow on Jul 18, 2021 6:29:32 GMT -5
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Post by NeRD on Jul 18, 2021 8:30:11 GMT -5
If Bad Habits slows a little, maybe she can replace herself at #1.
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Post by Choco on Jul 18, 2021 12:41:32 GMT -5
Or "brutal". Or "jealousy, jealousy", which is a more scathing takedown than anything found on reputation. (Remember "This is Why We Can't Have Nice Things"? lmao). Iโm a Taylor stan but, just, to meโฆ.thatโs a skip. It just adds nothing to her discography. I love a huge amount of reputation. It has aged quite well imo. Especially since we might never get full on Pop TayTay again. But that one is a stinker.
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Post by Fears in the Fire on Jul 18, 2021 13:00:34 GMT -5
Ugh. She seems like a nice gal but I was over the Taylor inspo/conversation on my second listen. She absolutely needs to distance herself ASAP. Not just for her own musical identity but it also disservices her own artistry She has. Have you heard the song at #2 on the charts? You mean Better Than Revenge 2.0?
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Post by Au$tin on Jul 18, 2021 15:07:22 GMT -5
She has. Have you heard the song at #2 on the charts? You mean Better Than Revenge 2.0? That's a reach.
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Post by Fears in the Fire on Jul 18, 2021 16:08:26 GMT -5
You mean Better Than Revenge 2.0? That's a reach. Not really, those two sound way more alike than deja vu and cruel summer
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