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Post by s9983 on Mar 18, 2021 20:00:19 GMT -5
That is quite literally only b/c of the remix (with 2 big streaming artists) that it peaked that high. And besides, it was only the 2nd single off the album so any song was gonna do radio numbers with a name like that associated. Radio is carrying it rn. She could've gotten a 2nd #1 if she had just chosen a good song. Positions is basically performing the same as it on streaming services and it's been a single a good month or two before it It was already in the Top 10 before the remix and on the road to #1, it actually would've been #1 if it wasn't blocked by a massive phenomenon hit. And 34+35 has had great streaming since it's release in late October, it's still in the Top 50 on Spotify while the remix is nowhere to be seen, so obviously the remix didn't help that much. Radio is far from the only thing carrying it right now, it's fine if you don't like the song but let's not pretend like 34+35 isn't doing fantastic, it was a great single choice. It was not headed for #1 without the remix. Ofc it was in the top 10 with decent radio. Also, it was only a few points ahead of the #3 song. If we're being realistic, without the remix it wouldn't have even went top 5. The remix added a decent chunk towards it's streaming & it being on the deluxe was also a factor for that high chart placement.
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Post by atg on Mar 18, 2021 20:42:15 GMT -5
Really hard to call 34+35 the worst single choice of all time when it was a huge hit, #2 on the Hot 100 and #1 on Pop. Still Top 10 on both right now. I think Grande's team did a good job picking that one. That is quite literally only b/c of the remix (with 2 big streaming artists) that it peaked that high. And besides, it was only the 2nd single off the album so any song was gonna do radio numbers with a name like that associated. Radio is carrying it rn. She could've gotten a 2nd #1 if she had just chosen a good song. Positions is basically performing the same as it on streaming services and it's been a single a good month or two before it I never understood what was the point of adding doja cat for the remix when her feature on motive was right after on the tracklist. In fact, add megan to a motive remix and there, full potential right there as her verse would’ve prob been way better and more fitting than what she gave us on 34+35.
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Post by kcdawg13 on Mar 18, 2021 20:55:43 GMT -5
It was already in the Top 10 before the remix and on the road to #1, it actually would've been #1 if it wasn't blocked by a massive phenomenon hit. And 34+35 has had great streaming since it's release in late October, it's still in the Top 50 on Spotify while the remix is nowhere to be seen, so obviously the remix didn't help that much. Radio is far from the only thing carrying it right now, it's fine if you don't like the song but let's not pretend like 34+35 isn't doing fantastic, it was a great single choice. It was not headed for #1 without the remix. Ofc it was in the top 10 with decent radio. Also, it was only a few points ahead of the #3 song. If we're being realistic, without the remix it wouldn't have even went top 5. The remix added a decent chunk towards it's streaming & it being on the deluxe was also a factor for that high chart placement. Bruh this isn't a Focus situation, the original is huge on radio and streaming meaning the remix didn't really help it in the end, all for one week. The song is huge on it's own. Maybe she could've chosen a different single but why would she? 34+35 is a big hit, it was the perfect choice. Want my personal opinion? Positions is a pretty mediocre album and really the only single choices are the ones we got, I don't really see anything else being that big from the record. Maybe The Weeknd/Doja tracks because of the name's attached, but the lead single and 34+35 were really the only great choices from that album.
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Post by rosalina4812 on Mar 18, 2021 21:10:05 GMT -5
It was already in the Top 10 before the remix and on the road to #1, it actually would've been #1 if it wasn't blocked by a massive phenomenon hit. And 34+35 has had great streaming since it's release in late October, it's still in the Top 50 on Spotify while the remix is nowhere to be seen, so obviously the remix didn't help that much. Radio is far from the only thing carrying it right now, it's fine if you don't like the song but let's not pretend like 34+35 isn't doing fantastic, it was a great single choice. It was not headed for #1 without the remix. Ofc it was in the top 10 with decent radio. Also, it was only a few points ahead of the #3 song. If we're being realistic, without the remix it wouldn't have even went top 5. The remix added a decent chunk towards it's streaming & it being on the deluxe was also a factor for that high chart placement. 34+35 went big on streaming way before the remix. Lmao.
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Post by Groovy on Mar 18, 2021 23:04:11 GMT -5
^Yeah, there were actually a few days after Christmas where it was the most streamed song in the US on Spotify and even before Christmas, it was getting more streams than positions.
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Post by aussie1 on Mar 18, 2021 23:16:07 GMT -5
Really hard to call 34+35 the worst single choice of all time when it was a huge hit, #2 on the Hot 100 and #1 on Pop. Still Top 10 on both right now. I think Grande's team did a good job picking that one. That is quite literally only b/c of the remix (with 2 big streaming artists) that it peaked that high. And besides, it was only the 2nd single off the album so any song was gonna do radio numbers with a name like that associated. Radio is carrying it rn. She could've gotten a 2nd #1 if she had just chosen a good song. Positions is basically performing the same as it on streaming services and it's been a single a good month or two before it 34+35 peaked at #2 before the remix even came out and re-peaked when the remix video came out. She didn't need names attached to it to peak that high, y'all say anything on here. And even if the remix did help her peak higher who cares the song would of been a huge hit regardless, not to mention the lead debuted at #1. Acting like 34+35 is only a hit because of the features is garbage.
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Post by s9983 on Mar 18, 2021 23:31:15 GMT -5
That is quite literally only b/c of the remix (with 2 big streaming artists) that it peaked that high. And besides, it was only the 2nd single off the album so any song was gonna do radio numbers with a name like that associated. Radio is carrying it rn. She could've gotten a 2nd #1 if she had just chosen a good song. Positions is basically performing the same as it on streaming services and it's been a single a good month or two before it 34+35 peaked at #2 before the remix even came out and re-peaked when the remix video came out. She didn't need names attached to it to peak that high, y'all say anything on here. And even if the remix did help her peak higher who cares the song would of been a huge hit regardless, not to mention the lead debuted at #1. Acting like 34+35 is only a hit because of the features is garbage. No it did not. YOU'RE the one that's lost. It peaked at #8 previously until the doja/meg remix, and then once again re-peaked at #2 after the video. Literally NO one said it needed features to become a hit, all that was said is that it wouldn't have went top 5 without the remix bc it's streams were steady, if not slowly falling as radio slowly built up. The whole point is if she chose another single like motive, it prolly would've done better chart wise. The song was not nearly as good as some of the other songs on the album and most people can agree with that.
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Post by elementd5 on Mar 19, 2021 0:00:39 GMT -5
A top 10 hit is still a top 10 hit, though. Every song doesn’t need to reach #1 in order to be considered successful. I prefer positions (album) over sweetener and thank u, next.
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Post by Lost In Musical Reverie on Mar 19, 2021 4:49:41 GMT -5
Even though "34+35" is firmly in my bottom 5 of the album (though that's more a testament to how much I love the other tracks), it was a good single choice. The title catches your attention, the song is an absolute earworm, and the bridge is such a highlight. And of course, the juxtaposition between the wholesome Disney-esque strings with the raunchy lyrics makes for a really fun tune (and an incentive for radioplay 😉). So I'm not surprised either by the choice or by its success.
If we're talking about terrible single choices from Ariana Grande, "Everyday" is right there. Even if the song grew on me, to push it over "Greedy", "Sometimes", or "Touch It" was criminal.
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Post by tuna on Mar 19, 2021 7:33:56 GMT -5
Not gonna lie I did not like positions (the album) at all, POV was the only standout
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Post by gikem on Mar 19, 2021 7:38:40 GMT -5
If we're talking about terrible single choices from Ariana Grande, "Everyday" is right there. Even if the song grew on me, to push it over "Greedy", "Sometimes", or "Touch It" was criminal. If you ask me, 7 Rings was a terrible pre-album single choice. I get why she made it and how it works in the context of the album, but divorced from that context, it’s genuinely reprehensible, and IMO her worst song to date (not just her worst single). There were much better single choices on TUN that never saw the light of day.
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Post by iamsorare on Mar 19, 2021 8:05:19 GMT -5
If we're talking about terrible single choices from Ariana Grande, "Everyday" is right there. Even if the song grew on me, to push it over "Greedy", "Sometimes", or "Touch It" was criminal. If you ask me, 7 Rings was a terrible pre-album single choice. I get why she made it and how it works in the context of the album, but divorced from that context, it’s genuinely reprehensible, and IMO her worst song to date (not just her worst single). There were much better single choices on TUN that never saw the light of day. ironically it's her most successful single to date...I didn't like it but it grew on me..it's catchy, fun and even ariana didn't take it seriously but people loved it
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Mar 19, 2021 8:29:23 GMT -5
Guys! It was #4 on the way to #1 and then the remix dropped and it went to #2 in seconds where without the remix it would have peaked at #8! Now it’s #1 with the remix nowhere in sight on iTunes. Riddle me that!
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Post by gikem on Mar 19, 2021 8:39:20 GMT -5
If you ask me, 7 Rings was a terrible pre-album single choice. I get why she made it and how it works in the context of the album, but divorced from that context, it’s genuinely reprehensible, and IMO her worst song to date (not just her worst single). There were much better single choices on TUN that never saw the light of day. ironically it's her most successful single to date...I didn't like it but it grew on me..it's catchy, fun and even ariana didn't take it seriously but people loved it You might think that, but I've never liked the song, and the fact that it's her most successful single to date is a crime to me. She is capable of SO much better than biting from Soulja Boy's flow and rubbing her immense wealth in listeners' faces.
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Post by Lost In Musical Reverie on Mar 19, 2021 9:08:48 GMT -5
If we're talking about terrible single choices from Ariana Grande, "Everyday" is right there. Even if the song grew on me, to push it over "Greedy", "Sometimes", or "Touch It" was criminal. If you ask me, 7 Rings was a terrible pre-album single choice. I get why she made it and how it works in the context of the album, but divorced from that context, it’s genuinely reprehensible, and IMO her worst song to date (not just her worst single). There were much better single choices on TUN that never saw the light of day. Couldn't agree more with what you said, but I rather not open this can of worms, since many here love the track. And I don't even think it works within the context of the album, as the song is played as straightforward as possible. If it was an ode to friendship support after a breakup, OR covered the sad undertones behind her retail addiction, it could have been an amazing tune, but as it is, it's the worst type of materialistic anthem.Well, despite my opinions, on a pure business standpoint, it was a good single choice. Any song coming after "thank u, next" would have been a success regardless ( justice for "bad idea" and "bloodline"), and the controversy surrounding it only helped to push it to the forefront of the conversation, making it an even bigger hit. And of course, the trap sound was ideal for crossover, which only helped to widen her mainstream appeal. Ariana and her team knew exactly what they were doing, and sadly, it worked even better than expected. And indeed, coming from a fan, it is an insult to her talents to have this as her biggest hit in the US. Not even focusing on the lyrics this time, but as a song that barely makes use of her beautiful vocals and amazing harmonies.
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on Mar 19, 2021 9:40:53 GMT -5
kworb's Billboard Radio Songs Estimates 2021/03/19
1(=) Olivia Rodrigo - drivers license 126.79(-0.64) 2(=) Chris Brown & Young Thug - Go Crazy 107.66(-1.15) 3(=) Ariana Grande - 34+35 102.31(-0.77) 4(+2) Pop Smoke - What You Know Bout Love 97.36(+0.78) 5(-1) 24kGoldn - Mood (feat. iann dior) 97.00(-0.81) 6(-1) Billie Eilish - Therefore I Am 96.92(-0.02) 7(=) Ariana Grande - positions 95.36(-0.84) 8(=) The Weeknd - Blinding Lights 86.70(+0.03) 9(=) Ritt Momney - Put Your Records On 82.19(+0.93) 10(=) The Weeknd - Save Your Tears 75.53(+0.57)
12(+2) Thomas Rhett - What's Your Country Song 60.69(+1.02) 15(=) Cardi B - Up 60.32(+1.07)
19(+1) Brett Young - Lady 52.79(+0.78) 20(+5) Bruno Mars, Anderson .Paak & Silk Sonic - Leave The Door Open 51.82(+4.13)
30(+2) Florida Georgia Line - Long Live 45.31(+0.93)
34(+2) Saweetie - Best Friend (feat. Doja Cat) 44.08(+0.80)
48(+2) Maroon 5 & Megan Thee Stallion - Beautiful Mistakes 34.49(+0.98) 59(+4) Drake - What's Next 27.77(+1.01) -(-) Luke Combs - Forever After All 12.66(+0.88)
-(-) Masked Wolf - Astronaut In The Ocean 11.18(+0.71) + -(-) Imagine Dragons - Follow You 6.66(+0.78)
-(-) Riton & Nightcrawlers - Friday (feat. Mufasa & Hypeman) [Dopamine Re-Edit] 1.10(+1.08) +
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Post by thegreatdivine on Mar 19, 2021 9:52:49 GMT -5
At this rate, Leave the Door Open will catch up to Up in the next 3 days. Wow.
No way Leave the Door Open doesn't go #1 in the next 2 weeks. It's gains on radio are crazy.
Personally, I'm just glad that after Drivers License's 8-week run at #1, 2/potentially 4 new artists will have scored #1 hits right after and those songs will actually spend some time in the top 10. The number of #1 debut/out of the top 10 "hits" we had last year was repulsive.
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Post by annoymous1 on Mar 19, 2021 9:59:38 GMT -5
It looks like drivers license peaked on radio. it had a good run overall 8x weeks at number #1 and at age 17-18. Very Impressive.
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Post by gikem on Mar 19, 2021 10:04:21 GMT -5
Pop Smoke potentially getting a posthumous radio #1 soon is wild to me.
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on Mar 19, 2021 10:08:24 GMT -5
^It seems a race between him and Leave the Door Open. I can definitely see the latter getting to #1 in Radio Songs within a month, if not sooner. So the window for Pop Smoke to get to #1 seems narrow, but not impossible.
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Post by gikem on Mar 19, 2021 10:41:22 GMT -5
Mediabase Callout Scores - March 19, 2021Top 40NEW: none OUT: Body HIGHEST POSITIVE: Go Crazy LOWEST POSITIVE: Anyone HIGHEST FAVORITE: drivers license LOWEST FAVORITE: Monsters LOWEST NEGATIVE: Go Crazy HIGHEST NEGATIVE: Therefore I Am HIGHEST NET POSITIVE: Go Crazy LOWEST NET POSITIVE: Anyone LOWEST BURN: Save Your Tears HIGHEST BURN: Mood HIGHEST FAMILIARITY: Mood LOWEST FAMILIARITY: Monsters Hot AC NEW: Put Your Records On, Save Your Tears OUT: Kings & Queens, Head Up High HIGHEST POSITIVE: Lonely LOWEST POSITIVE: Golden HIGHEST FAVORITE: Lonely LOWEST FAVORITE: Golden LOWEST NEGATIVE: Put Your Records On HIGHEST NEGATIVE: Therefore I Am HIGHEST NET POSITIVE: Put Your Records On LOWEST NET POSITIVE: Therefore I Am LOWEST BURN: willow HIGHEST BURN: Therefore I Am HIGHEST FAMILIARITY: Blinding Lights LOWEST FAMILIARITY: willow ACNEW: Kings & Queens, Lonely OUT: none HIGHEST POSITIVE: Kings & Queens LOWEST POSITIVE: Adore You HIGHEST FAVORITE: Blinding Lights LOWEST FAVORITE: drivers license LOWEST NEGATIVE: willow HIGHEST NEGATIVE: Before You Go HIGHEST NET POSITIVE: Blinding Lights LOWEST NET POSITIVE: Adore You LOWEST BURN: willow HIGHEST BURN: Circles HIGHEST FAMILIARITY: Blinding Lights LOWEST FAMILIARITY: drivers license CountryNEW: One Too Many OUT: none HIGHEST POSITIVE: Lady LOWEST POSITIVE: Starting Over HIGHEST FAVORITE: Lady LOWEST FAVORITE: Almost Maybes LOWEST NEGATIVE: Gone HIGHEST NEGATIVE: Good Time HIGHEST NET POSITIVE: Lady LOWEST NET POSITIVE: Starting Over LOWEST BURN: Gone HIGHEST BURN: Momma's House HIGHEST FAMILIARITY: Somebody Like That LOWEST FAMILIARITY: Settling Down Urban
NEW: Back in Blood, Good Days, Quicksand OUT: Throat Baby (Go Baby), Tyler Herro, Body HIGHEST POSITIVE: What You Know Bout Love LOWEST POSITIVE: Sunshine (The Light) HIGHEST FAVORITE: Back in Blood LOWEST FAVORITE: Sunshine (The Light) LOWEST NEGATIVE: Good Days HIGHEST NEGATIVE: Buss It HIGHEST NET POSITIVE: Back in Blood LOWEST NET POSITIVE: Buss It LOWEST BURN: Good Days HIGHEST BURN: Buss It HIGHEST FAMILIARITY: Thick LOWEST FAMILIARITY: Sunshine (The Light)
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Post by iHype. on Mar 19, 2021 10:42:06 GMT -5
Pop Smoke’s era has been insane...
Easily the biggest era/album of 2020.
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Post by thegreatdivine on Mar 19, 2021 10:55:14 GMT -5
Pop Smoke’s era has been insane... Easily the biggest era/album of 2020. Better longevity than My Turn and Legends Never Die and the number of organic hits the album has produced is really something else. The album has been out for 37 weeks and has spent 35 of those weeks in the top 10. Just insane. I can see it easily getting to 50 weeks in the top 10, maybe even more.
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Post by Mayman on Mar 19, 2021 11:18:33 GMT -5
"Hello" is looking to be a moderate hit for him as well. Crazy to think he's gotten like 6 hits from this album.
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Post by staycool on Mar 19, 2021 12:23:12 GMT -5
Up is back to #1 on iTunes
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Post by After Minutes on Mar 19, 2021 13:19:23 GMT -5
Pop Smoke’s era has been insane... Easily the biggest era/album of 2020. I'd argue that the After Hours era is bigger, and that Folklore as an album is, too, but yeah, Pop Smoke's album was, and probably will be the biggest posthumous release era. What a shame that he passed. Imo he seriously had the potential to replace Drake.
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Post by tasz on Mar 19, 2021 13:21:29 GMT -5
Who do you guys think is going #1 on Monday?
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Post by iHype. on Mar 19, 2021 13:26:45 GMT -5
Pop Smoke’s era has been insane... Easily the biggest era/album of 2020. I'd argue that the After Hours era is bigger, and that Folklore as an album is, too, but yeah, Pop Smoke's album was, and probably will be the biggest posthumous release era. What a shame that he passed. Imo he seriously had the potential to replace Drake. After Hours has moreso become the "Blinding Lights" era imo. It has literally been above all the other singles throughout their entire runs, and at this point I think people will just universally think of mainly just that song when looking back at that era for the most part. Pop Smoke's album has about 5 singles that are well known hits within the same caliber, the longevity easily beats every 2020 album (it's still #2 after 8 months), and culturally Pop's album felt like the biggest moment. Folklore was done after like 4 months so.... mainly her fault for only pushing 1 single and releasing another album entirely soon after.
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Post by Enigma. on Mar 19, 2021 13:52:51 GMT -5
W&N is down to #7 on Spotify, but the margins are very small, 82k from #2.
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Post by thegreatdivine on Mar 19, 2021 14:11:17 GMT -5
Pop Smoke’s era has been insane... Easily the biggest era/album of 2020. I'd argue that the After Hours era is bigger, and that Folklore as an album is, too, but yeah, Pop Smoke's album was, and probably will be the biggest posthumous release era. What a shame that he passed. Imo he seriously had the potential to replace Drake. I disagree. Blinding Lights cast a huge shadow over the entire After Hours era. That's all anyone will think of when they think of that album and Folklore didn't have nearly the same longevity in the top 10 nor did it garner as many hits as Pop Smoke's album. As for him having the potential to replace Drake, I don't know how you could say that. Before he died, he had released 2 mixtapes: Meet the Woo and Meet the Woo 2. They debuted at #173 and #7 on the Billboard 200 respectively. He hadn't even charted a single song until Dior entered the Hot 100 at #49, following his death. It, along with Welcome to the Party had been bubbling up in the streets but neither of them had officially charted yet. It's unfortunate, but Pop Smoke didn't blow up until his death and I doubt his album would have seen this much success if he was still alive because he simply hadn't grown to be that successful as an artist yet. Many people didn't learn of him until after his death. Same with Juice WRLD and the massive debut for Legends Never Die. While he had established himself as a commercially-viable artist before he died, his last album before Legends Never Die pulled 165K SPS in it's first week. If he was alive while Legends Never Die got released, I highly doubt it would have debuted with 497K SPS. Mac Miller also earned his biggest debut week with the release of his posthumous album. Pop Smoke's case is a lot different because I've never seen an artist who wasn't established commercially while they were alive, manage to do that following their death with a posthumous album.
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