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Post by starlord on Mar 23, 2021 12:27:44 GMT -5
Is this even legal?? lol!!!!! Nas is definitely bringing some action next week. Can't wait.
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Post by chingaling on Mar 23, 2021 12:43:56 GMT -5
I wished Top 40 played more "pop" music, but who are these rappers you are speaking of? Pick any one. Top 40 radio shouldn't only play POP records. If the biggest songs on the charts are rap songs good enough to reach the top 10 on Urban/Rhythmic radio, they should also do well on Pop radio but that isn't the reality. When I tune in a pop station, it's because I want to hear light pop songs with catchy hooks and nice melodies. If I want to hear trap music, I switch to an urban radio station. |
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Post by Enigma. on Mar 23, 2021 12:52:34 GMT -5
There are rap songs that fits pop radio very well, like Up and What You Know Bout Love.
And then for instance Put Your Records On shouldn't be played anywhere, but still somehow pop decided to make it happen hehe
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Post by Lost In Musical Reverie on Mar 23, 2021 12:54:45 GMT -5
Rap and trap perfectly fill in the catchy hooks and nice melodies criteria, though.
And even the argument against explicit music on radio makes no sense anymore when songs like "thank u, next", "Lonely", "drivers license", and "34+35" were huge airplay smashes. The censoring will be bad and awkward, but that's just how radio works, really.
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Post by iHype. on Mar 23, 2021 13:03:59 GMT -5
Top 40 in theory should be crossovers and new music. However the executives have decided it should replica the HAC & AC playlists with the same 10 songs all year from Post Malone, Ariana Grande, The Weeknd, Dua Lipa, and Harry Styles because they are adored by soccer moms.
Also don't even get me started on the borderline racism with HAC and rap music lol. Going as far to even completely editing out rap verses in Crazy In Love/Dark Horse/Havana/etc. As if simply hearing a 20-second feature would *disgust* listeners and be too much for them to handle.
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Mar 23, 2021 13:09:53 GMT -5
If their target demographic is soccer moms, wouldnβt that make sense tho?
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Post by iHype. on Mar 23, 2021 13:13:12 GMT -5
If their target demographic is soccer moms, wouldnβt that make sense tho? Top 40's demo is primarily 18-35 year old women. Not sure where that demo meets the definition of soccer mom. Regardless, Top 40 has been on the decline for years now. I'm sure they'll chalk it up to streaming rather than the fact they play the same 7 songs on power-rotation for 8 months straight. |
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Post by thegreatdivine on Mar 23, 2021 13:13:13 GMT -5
Pick any one. Top 40 radio shouldn't only play POP records. If the biggest songs on the charts are rap songs good enough to reach the top 10 on Urban/Rhythmic radio, they should also do well on Pop radio but that isn't the reality. When I tune in a pop station, it's because I want to hear light pop songs with catchy hooks and nice melodies. If I want to hear trap music, I switch to an urban radio station. This is a very terrible mentality that speaks to the very root of why pop radio continues to block out black artists and black music. |
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Post by iggyamo on Mar 23, 2021 13:20:07 GMT -5
Is this even legal?? lol!!!!! Nas is definitely bringing some action next week. Can't wait. I mean, Cash App has been doing this for a while, but typically with smaller artists or people not in the music industry. It typically helps Cash App more than anyone else. |
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Post by thegreatdivine on Mar 23, 2021 13:22:06 GMT -5
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Post by thegreatdivine on Mar 23, 2021 13:25:02 GMT -5
Is this even legal?? lol!!!!! Nas is definitely bringing some action next week. Can't wait. This comes off as really desperate. I miss artists releasing music and letting fans/the general public decide it's fate instead of relying on some gimmick or trick to help out their songs. |
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Post by π‘πππππ€ on Mar 23, 2021 13:40:10 GMT -5
^ itβs...just a hashtag? Heβs not forcing them to presave or buy the song, itβs just promo? Yeesh
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Post by jdanton2 on Mar 23, 2021 13:41:41 GMT -5
top 40 should play whatever is popular at the time . the best way to do that without turning off too many people is to play certain songs during the day that might appeal to an older audience and at night play more rap or music that appeals to a younger audience . alot of stations most likely already do that.
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Post by jenglisbe on Mar 23, 2021 13:44:27 GMT -5
I wished Top 40 played more "pop" music, but who are these rappers you are speaking of? Pick any one. Top 40 radio shouldn't only play POP records. If the biggest songs on the charts are rap songs good enough to reach the top 10 on Urban/Rhythmic radio, they should also do well on Pop radio but that isn't the reality. Why should they automatically do well on Pop radio? Are the audiences similar? I ask that seriously. |
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Post by jenglisbe on Mar 23, 2021 13:48:24 GMT -5
When I tune in a pop station, it's because I want to hear light pop songs with catchy hooks and nice melodies. If I want to hear trap music, I switch to an urban radio station. This is a very terrible mentality that speaks to the very root of why pop radio continues to block out black artists and black music. Meanwhile The Weeknd, Chris Brown, and 24GOLDN all have songs in the current top 10 of at Top 40. Pop Smoke is #11. |
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Post by π‘πππππ€ on Mar 23, 2021 13:51:31 GMT -5
^ itβs...just a hashtag? Heβs not forcing them to presave or buy the song, itβs just promo? Yeesh Well π eh. Still, I donβt really mind it too much. Promo is promo. If you want organic successes, you donβt have a ton of them - telepatΓa, drivers license, streets, heartbreak anniversary, save your tears, good days, you broke me first |
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Post by areyoureadytojump on Mar 23, 2021 13:54:11 GMT -5
top 40 should play whatever is popular at the time . the best way to do that without turning off too many people is to play certain songs during the day that might appeal to an older audience and at night play more rap or music that appeals to a younger audience . alot of stations most likely already do that. They've been doing this for years. It's called dayparting: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dayparting |
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Post by lazer on Mar 23, 2021 14:05:25 GMT -5
Wdym there are black artists getting blocked in pop radio? The Weeknd, Chris Brown, and 24KGoldn are getting heavy airplay. Anderson .Paak is heading there as well lol.
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Post by chartfreak on Mar 23, 2021 14:16:14 GMT -5
I wished Top 40 played more "pop" music, but who are these rappers you are speaking of? Pick any one. Top 40 radio shouldn't only play POP records. If the biggest songs on the charts are rap songs good enough to reach the top 10 on Urban/Rhythmic radio, they should also do well on Pop radio but that isn't the reality. At least they are getting airplay somewhere, some artists get no support from any format. So I don't really agree with you. |
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Post by phieaglesfan712 on Mar 23, 2021 14:16:27 GMT -5
There are rap songs that fits pop radio very well, like Up and What You Know Bout Love. And then for instance Put Your Records On shouldn't be played anywhere, but still somehow pop decided to make it happen hehe Put Your Records on is the textbook definition of a payola hit. |
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Post by spiritboy on Mar 23, 2021 14:18:46 GMT -5
Pop songs usually struggle on streaming so i'm glad Pop radio is playing them more and giving them a chance on the charts.
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Post by chartfreak on Mar 23, 2021 14:20:25 GMT -5
When I tune in a pop station, it's because I want to hear light pop songs with catchy hooks and nice melodies. If I want to hear trap music, I switch to an urban radio station. This is a very terrible mentality that speaks to the very root of why pop radio continues to block out black artists and black music. Isn't like 5 of the top 10 songs on Radio by a black artist? I understand your point of view with the context, but I don't think it's valid. |
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Post by starlord on Mar 23, 2021 14:24:06 GMT -5
Sheesh, I right away knew pulse would come out with all guns blazing. Even I mad at him for hyping a single for 8 months but we could just let he be himself. He knows the social media marketing in and out and definitely much more than any current "artist's team". More importantly in a time where The Superstars doing super weird s**t from begging to literally rigging the charts and sales.
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Post by Skibidi Bop Bop on Mar 23, 2021 14:28:28 GMT -5
Pop songs usually struggle on streaming so i'm glad Pop radio is playing them more and giving them a chance on the charts. >>your right. W/o pop radio. Bb would probably looks like Billboard Hot RnB and Hiphop featuring taylor swift and arianna grande |
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Post by goldentakes on Mar 23, 2021 14:32:02 GMT -5
Sheesh, I right away knew pulse would you come out with all guns blazing. Even I mad at him for hyping a single for 8 months but we could just let he be himself. He knows the social media marketing in and out and definitely much more than any current "artist's team". More importantly in a time where The Superstars doing super weird s**t from begging to literally rigging the charts and sales. What a Guy lol. I agree 100% with what he's saying. |
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Mar 23, 2021 14:32:25 GMT -5
If their target demographic is soccer moms, wouldnβt that make sense tho? Top 40's demo is primarily 18-35 year old women. Not sure where that demo meets the definition of soccer mom. Regardless, Top 40 has been on the decline for years now. I'm sure they'll chalk it up to streaming rather than the fact they play the same 7 songs on power-rotation for 8 months straight. What are soccer moms if not mothers of school-aged kids? People keep referencing soccer moms in here as an insult to musical tastes in relation to radio but does anyone really give much thought to who is listening to radio and how? |
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Post by chartfreak on Mar 23, 2021 14:32:42 GMT -5
Maybe this is really just about Drake not doing well on Pop Radio?
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Mar 23, 2021 14:34:42 GMT -5
^ itβs...just a hashtag? Heβs not forcing them to presave or buy the song, itβs just promo? Yeesh Yeah, no kidding. Calling promotional tactics gimmicks is far fetched at best. Some promo ideas work and some donβt but if the goal is getting a song out there in front of people, why is that a bad thing? |
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Post by thegreatdivine on Mar 23, 2021 14:43:28 GMT -5
OF COURSE the responses I'm getting are "but there are 3 black artists in the top 10 of pop radio! How does that mean black artists are being blocked on pop radio?!" Typical. I even mentioned that in a post so many of you conveniently skipped over, lol.
I forget that some of you simply aren't open-minded enough to have some conversations. Forget I said anything. Pop radio is 100% fair with the artists they push on their format and those they don't ^__^
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Post by thegreatdivine on Mar 23, 2021 14:52:03 GMT -5
^ itβs...just a hashtag? Heβs not forcing them to presave or buy the song, itβs just promo? Yeesh I never said he couldn't market or promote his music but using money as a way to entice fans/the general public to show support will always come off as tacky to me. I felt the same way when Cardi B/Megan did the whole money giveaway thing with WAP and when Ariana Grande/Justin Bieber tried to act like they were doing anyone other than themselves a favor with their "charity single," Stuck With U. Acts like that aren't nearly as generous/selfless as one would think. |
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