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Post by renfield75 on Apr 12, 2021 19:44:41 GMT -5
5 charts have the record: 7 songs in the top 10 that already peaked #1. Interesting, thanks for looking that up. You would think it might have happened in the mid 70s or late 80s when there was such high turnover (30+ number ones per year) but none of the number ones then would have had the staying power to hang in the top ten for 5-10 weeks after peaking. It would be interesting to know if there was ever a top ten completely full of number ones if you include future chart toppers in addition to those that had already peaked. Probably not. |
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Post by CF15 on Apr 12, 2021 19:47:33 GMT -5
Yeah, but they normally would comment on the fact that it wasn't #1 in any of the metrics. I think they always state the component breakdown for the #1 song, in any case. Leave the Door Open was #1 in overall sales Right. I somehow didn't make the connection that the physical sales would be grouped together with the digital. That makes sense, then. Brain-fart, I suppose. |
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Post by garrettlen on Apr 12, 2021 19:56:19 GMT -5
Okay I believe you all right. I saw multiple chart accounts tweeting this and they always fact check before making a post. Still it's been really long time since it happen. Also it's a first japanese song since 1963 to chart on hot 100. Nope. "A Kiss In The Dark" by female Japanese singing duo Pink Lady got to #37 back in 1979. And you must be referring to "Sukiyaki" by Kyu Sakamoto, which topped the Hot 100 for 3 weeks in June 1963. |
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Post by Groovy on Apr 12, 2021 20:01:52 GMT -5
First Iggy Azalea then The Kid LAROI and now Masked Wolf, who'll be the next Australian rapper with a top 10 hit?
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Post by goldentakes on Apr 12, 2021 20:43:01 GMT -5
First Iggy Azalea then The Kid LAROI and now Masked Wolf, who'll be the next Australian rapper with a top 10 hit? Kid Laroi has a top 10? |
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Post by renfield75 on Apr 12, 2021 20:43:02 GMT -5
Okay I believe you all right. I saw multiple chart accounts tweeting this and they always fact check before making a post. Still it's been really long time since it happen. Also it's a first japanese song since 1963 to chart on hot 100. Nope. "A Kiss In The Dark" by female Japanese singing duo Pink Lady got to #37 back in 1979. And you must be referring to "Sukiyaki" by Kyu Sakamoto, which topped the Hot 100 for 3 weeks in June 1963. I think Meg meant Japanese language song. Pink Lady were Japanese but "Kiss In The Dark" was in English (and a sweet disco jam to boot). |
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Post by monkeydluffy on Apr 12, 2021 20:44:06 GMT -5
First Iggy Azalea then The Kid LAROI and now Masked Wolf, who'll be the next Australian rapper with a top 10 hit? Kid Laroi has a top 10? Hate the Other Side - Juice WRLD, Polo G, Marshmello & The Kid LAROI. It debuted at #10 |
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Post by divasummer on Apr 12, 2021 20:48:57 GMT -5
This is interesting and not something I had thought about before. But even a lot of those 'classics' are borderline novelty songs, or remembered but not in the sense of true classics (they're more like 90s relics that remind people of that time than they are general classics that transcend time). But sadly the borderline novelty songs are often the ones that endure. Look at The Monster Mash, YMCA, Ghostbusters, I'm Too Sexy, Macarena, Mambo No. 5, Party Rock Anthem...people from later generations often latch onto the most extreme examples from any era and define it by that. Who wants to listen to "Blowin' In The Wind" when you can listen to "The Twist"? I would... Why would I want to listen to "The Twist" for the millionth time.. lol I actually wouldn't want to hear "Ghostbusters, YMCA, Monster Mash or any of the songs they play at weddings/proms/etc etc... I hate to say it but for awhile hearing women scream out the lyrics to "I Will Survive" was pretty annoying. So yes I would rather hear Paula's stunning power ballad.. |
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Post by jenglisbe on Apr 12, 2021 20:58:52 GMT -5
So far this decade has seen 9 number ones spend fewer than 5 weeks in the top ten (not counting Peaches and Montero since they're so recent, and both look like they could/should pass 5 weeks). The 60s/70s/80s had quite a few but chart runs were significantly shorter then in general so it's not a fair comparison. I haven't checked the 00s/10s but outside of Idol singles I can't imagine there were too many. Since I like to procrastinate my responsibilities, I took it upon myself to compile a list of all of the ones in 2000-2019. Song (weeks in top ten) "Thank God I Found You" (4) "This Is the Night" (4) "I Believe" (2) "Inside Your Heaven" (4) "Do I Make You Proud" (2) "Crack A Bottle" (4) "HIGHEST IN THE ROOM" (4) "Heartless" (The Weeknd) (2) Only half of these were from American Idol. Honourable (or dishonourable, depending on how you view it) mentions to "Bootylicious" (6 weeks), "Hold It Against Me" (5 weeks), "This Is America" (5 weeks), and "SAD!" (6 weeks). I had no idea "Bootylicious" had such piss-poor longevity. Also, 2007 had quite a few short-lived number-ones, albeit none that left the top ten in as quickly as five weeks. The short run for "Bootylicious" is even worse when you consider it had a commercial release that gave it advantage over all of the airplay-only songs at the time. |
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Post by chartfreak on Apr 12, 2021 20:59:00 GMT -5
Is it unusual for BB to be so precise about sales? Feels like they usually just round to the nearest thousand, but Door total 28.6k sales, Montero 14.5k digital sales, Deja Vu 7.4k digital sales. So far, 2021's new #1s that didn't have a big debut: n/a. The last gradual climb was Mood which started with 84-26-12-8. I prefer them being specific, rather than rounding up, which I always found annoying, especially when a few songs were so close in sales and they all sold 25,000 copies, lol. |
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Post by renfield75 on Apr 12, 2021 21:00:29 GMT -5
But sadly the borderline novelty songs are often the ones that endure. Look at The Monster Mash, YMCA, Ghostbusters, I'm Too Sexy, Macarena, Mambo No. 5, Party Rock Anthem...people from later generations often latch onto the most extreme examples from any era and define it by that. Who wants to listen to "Blowin' In The Wind" when you can listen to "The Twist"? I would... Why would I want to listen to "The Twist" for the millionth time.. lol I actually wouldn't want to hear "Ghostbusters, YMCA, Monster Mash or any of the songs they play at weddings/proms/etc etc... I hate to say it but for awhile hearing women scream out the lyrics to "I Will Survive" was pretty annoying. So yes I would rather hear Paula's stunning power ballad.. I was referring to Bob Dylan's '60s protest song as a contrast to people choosing goofy dance songs over weighty political tunes, not Paula's "Blowing Kisses In The Wind". But I love that song, one of my favorites of hers! We're all music fans here, so of course we prefer the less obvious stuff. But for most people they still get hyped when they hear "Love Shack". Sadly it's just the world we live in. |
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Post by renfield75 on Apr 12, 2021 21:03:55 GMT -5
Since I like to procrastinate my responsibilities, I took it upon myself to compile a list of all of the ones in 2000-2019. Song (weeks in top ten) "Thank God I Found You" (4) "This Is the Night" (4) "I Believe" (2) "Inside Your Heaven" (4) "Do I Make You Proud" (2) "Crack A Bottle" (4) "HIGHEST IN THE ROOM" (4) "Heartless" (The Weeknd) (2) Only half of these were from American Idol. Honourable (or dishonourable, depending on how you view it) mentions to "Bootylicious" (6 weeks), "Hold It Against Me" (5 weeks), "This Is America" (5 weeks), and "SAD!" (6 weeks). I had no idea "Bootylicious" had such piss-poor longevity. Also, 2007 had quite a few short-lived number-ones, albeit none that left the top ten in as quickly as five weeks. The short run for "Bootylicious" is even worse when you consider it had a commercial release that gave it advantage over all of the airplay-only songs at the time. Being a Mariah fan I'm sure you remember the petty reason Tommy Mottola issued a commercial single for "Bootylicious". It's no coincidence that "Bootylicious" leapt to number one the same week "Loverboy" jumped to number two... |
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Post by divasummer on Apr 12, 2021 21:06:15 GMT -5
Where were you in 2020? It already was lol. They released a dozen different Vinyls, CDs, etc first week to debut #1 when they weren't even required to ship to count. Bad Guy/Circles/Watermelon Sugar/AIWFCIY/Savage/etc also used the tactic to reach #1 outside their debut weeks. Now that shipping is required for them to count it happens less though, but it still happens. They just have to be more strategic with it and can usually only offer 1-2 versions, and not 20+ versions. Franchise/Holy/UP/etc all had CD singles sold during their first week that shipped that same week so they could count if I'm not mistaken. There is also historical precedence for this, too. In the '90s when the major labels were trying to kill the CD single (leading to some of the biggest hits of the decade being ineligible to chart on the Hot 100 because they had no physical single release), they would sometimes release songs as physical singles right at their peak to ensure a high "debut" on the Hot 100. "Sunny Came Home" by Shawn Colvin, for instance, "debuted" at #8 on the Hot 100 in July 1997 and peaked at #7 a few weeks later, but it had been all over radio for months at that point. Around the same time it peaked on the Hot 100, it was the #1 song on radio and had been on the Radio Songs chart for 18 weeks. If the rules that were in place now were then, it would have probably been a Top 3 hit instead of #7. The tactic worked well for chart placement on the Hot 100 etc but labels only got so many years of that game until the consumers were sick of it and created a way to get things for free. Labels used to get a little money off singles back in the day. They just wanted to force you to get the whole album because they made a little more. Greed.. The industry got greedier than ever and it bit them in the butt big time. |
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Post by CF15 on Apr 12, 2021 21:18:36 GMT -5
Nope. "A Kiss In The Dark" by female Japanese singing duo Pink Lady got to #37 back in 1979. And you must be referring to "Sukiyaki" by Kyu Sakamoto, which topped the Hot 100 for 3 weeks in June 1963. I think Meg meant Japanese language song. Pink Lady were Japanese but "Kiss In The Dark" was in English (and a sweet disco jam to boot). That wasn't the last song by a Japanese act on the Hot 100, anyway. Two songs have done it in the past five years: "Face My Fears" Hikaru Utada, and, more infamously, "PPAP (Pen-Pineapple-Apple-Pen)" by Pikotaro. If we include artists who are part-Japanese such as Jhene Aiko who had several charting hits last year, there will be even more. |
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Post by Gary on Apr 12, 2021 21:49:50 GMT -5
5 charts have the record: 7 songs in the top 10 that already peaked #1. Interesting, thanks for looking that up. You would think it might have happened in the mid 70s or late 80s when there was such high turnover (30+ number ones per year) but none of the number ones then would have had the staying power to hang in the top ten for 5-10 weeks after peaking. It would be interesting to know if there was ever a top ten completely full of number ones if you include future chart toppers in addition to those that had already peaked. Probably not. A few charts from the 70s had 8 current, past or future #1's here is one The Billboard Hot 100 1975-12-27 1 2 2 10 Let's Do It Again, The Staple Singers 1
2 4 5 12 Saturday Night, Bay City Rollers 2
3 1 4 10 That's The Way (I Like It), KC & The Sunshine Band 1
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Post by Gary on Apr 12, 2021 21:53:46 GMT -5
The others are here
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Post by Groovy on Apr 12, 2021 22:21:21 GMT -5
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Post by hobicorewithluv π on Apr 12, 2021 22:40:12 GMT -5
Since they made the longest charting song by an Asian act, see you at the " recurrent" chart.π |
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Post by iamsorare on Apr 12, 2021 22:41:25 GMT -5
They are coming for top 20 next week
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Post by renfield75 on Apr 12, 2021 23:00:44 GMT -5
I think Meg meant Japanese language song. Pink Lady were Japanese but "Kiss In The Dark" was in English (and a sweet disco jam to boot). That wasn't the last song by a Japanese act on the Hot 100, anyway. Two songs have done it in the past five years: "Face My Fears" Hikaru Utada, and, more infamously, "PPAP (Pen-Pineapple-Apple-Pen)" by Pikotaro. If we include artists who are part-Japanese such as Jhene Aiko who had several charting hits last year, there will be even more. I'm sure many more, yes. Hawaiian-born Yvonne Elliman, whose mother was Japanese, went all the way to number one in 1978 with the 'Saturday Night Fever' classic "If I Can't Have You". Also, let's not forget Joji! |
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Post by meg on Apr 12, 2021 23:06:33 GMT -5
They are going to be on the cover of Rolling stone US june edition so it's probably true.
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on Apr 12, 2021 23:10:15 GMT -5
Nikki was born in Okinawa, Japan and peaked at #21 with Notice Me in 1990.
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Post by iHype. on Apr 12, 2021 23:11:08 GMT -5
I think it's also worth mentioning the fact OutKast's "Hey Ya!" spent 19 weeks #1 on Billboard's Hot Digital Tracks chart. The pre-chart to Hot Digital Songs, it just didn't combine sales for some songs which had multiple versions on iTunes. |
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Post by 85la on Apr 12, 2021 23:13:01 GMT -5
The short run for "Bootylicious" is even worse when you consider it had a commercial release that gave it advantage over all of the airplay-only songs at the time. Being a Mariah fan I'm sure you remember the petty reason Tommy Mottola issued a commercial single for "Bootylicious". It's no coincidence that "Bootylicious" leapt to number one the same week "Loverboy" jumped to number two... Wow, was that the only reason for the release? I guess it would make sense lol, but Booylicious also didn't do too well in airplay (was #5 there but had a quick peak and descent), so it surely benefited from the physical release and they would have reason to release it to improve the song's peak itself rather than just to block Mariah. |
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Post by renfield75 on Apr 12, 2021 23:13:33 GMT -5
Nikki was born in Okinawa, Japan and peaked at #21 with Notice Me in 1990. Always loved that song. Beautiful melody. I thought Nikki was going to be bigger than he was. |
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Post by forg on Apr 12, 2021 23:22:27 GMT -5
So happy Leave The Door Open hit #1, it's only a little over a month but it felt like forever lol.
Strong debut for Olivia Rodrigo's Deja Vu too, hope it will have longevity
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Post by Naos on Apr 12, 2021 23:33:21 GMT -5
New arrivals this week:
#100 - "Arcade" by Duncan Lawrence
#90 - "Mr. Perfectly Fine (Taylor's Version) (From The Vault)" by Taylor Swift
#81 - "Film Out" by BTS
#67 - "4 Da Gang" by 42 Dugg & Roddy Ricch
#61 - "Met Him Last Night" by Demi Lovato featuring Ariana Grande
#56 - "Dancing With The Devil" by Demi Lovato
#50 - "Run It Up" by Lil Tjay featuring Offset & Moneybagg Yo
#8 - "Deja Vu" by Olivia Rodrigo
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Post by hobicorewithluv π on Apr 12, 2021 23:37:22 GMT -5
New arrivals this week: #100 - "Arcade" by Duncan Lawrence |
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Post by Naos on Apr 12, 2021 23:59:23 GMT -5
Only notable gain I can find is Miranda Lambert's "Settling Down", which is #71 this week (+19).
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Post by Lost In Musical Reverie on Apr 13, 2021 3:10:19 GMT -5
What was the last time a song debuted inside top 5 Hot 100 (not No. 1), and didnt fall out of top 5 until it hit no. 1 Hot 100? As a previous user mentioned, "SeΓ±orita" is the latest case. "Up" came close, but it fell down to #6 the week before it jumped to #1. Also worth mentioning Post Malone and Ty Dolla $ign's "Psycho", which finally reached the summit in its 15th week while never leaving the top 5. That's got to be some kind of record. (2 - 4 - 5 - 5 - 4 - 3 - 4 - 4 - 5 - 2 - 4 - 4 - 4 - 2 - 1) |
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