Billboard Hot 100: 04/17/2021

[iamsorare]

C'mon bruno,save us from Montero.

[phieaglesfan712]

This would turn out to be the first of 16 #1 debuts in a one-year span.

[iHype.]

Apr 11, 2021 11:52:08 GMT -5 jenglisbe said:

Apr 11, 2021 11:00:03 GMT -5 Soulsista said:

Billboard Top 10 from 35, 30, 25, and 20 years ago:
April 20, 1991

01 02 You're In Love - Wilson Phillips (1st and only week at #1)
02 04 Baby Baby - Amy Grant
03 01 I've Been Thinking About You - Londonbeat
04 03 Hold You Tight - Tara Kemp
05 06 Joyride - Roxette
06 05 Sadeness (Part 1) - Enigma
07 07 Rico Suave - Gerardo
08 13 I Like The Way (The Kissing Game) - Hi-Five
09 11 Cry For Help - Rick Astley
10 15 Here We Go (Let's Rock & Roll) - C+C Music Factory

This is a funny top 10 to me just because most of these acts are basically one hit/album wonders, particularly in what they're remembered for. A few had maybe 2 albums of hits, but the point is no one on here had Hot 100 success for more than a couple years.

1991 is such a strange year in general.

A year rolling in artists who became basically completely forgotten by even the mid 90s. And what's even weirder is the hits managed by the actual superstar names in 1991 are also for the most part their most forgotten big hits.

Whitney's "All The Man That I Need" is (sadly) one of her most forgotten #1's.
Mariah's "I Don't Wanna Cry" is arguably her most forgotten #1.
Paula Abdul's "The Promise of a New Day" is like one of the most forgotten #1's just in general ever.
Prince's "Cream" is (unfortunately) also arguable as his most forgotten #1.

Janet's "Love Will Never Do", Gloria Estefan's "Coming Out of the Dark", etc also have the same arguments. You get the point. It's like that whole year was just forgotten by the public musically.

[Deleted]

Apr 11, 2021 13:31:03 GMT -5 iHype. said:

Apr 11, 2021 11:52:08 GMT -5 jenglisbe said:

This is a funny top 10 to me just because most of these acts are basically one hit/album wonders, particularly in what they're remembered for. A few had maybe 2 albums of hits, but the point is no one on here had Hot 100 success for more than a couple years.

1991 is such a strange year in general.

A year rolling in artists who became basically completely forgotten by even the mid 90s. And what's even weirder is the hits managed by the actual superstar names in 1991 are also for the most part their most forgotten big hits.

Whitney's "All The Man That I Need" is (sadly) one of her most forgotten #1's.
Mariah's "I Don't Wanna Cry" is arguably her most forgotten #1.
Paula Abdul's "The Promise of a New Day" is like one of the most forgotten #1's just in general ever.
Prince's "Cream" is (unfortunately) also arguable as his most forgotten #1.

Janet's "Love Will Never Do", Gloria Estefan's "Coming Out of the Dark", etc also have the same arguments. You get the point.


It's like that whole year was just forgotten by the public musically.

On the albums front, 1991 is the complete opposite. The year is jacked with classics left and right, and no, not just the one you're thinking of.

[phieaglesfan712]

cedric's predictions:

[dann]

It all depends on how many physical copies of LTDO were shipped, it is not being an easy #1 to predict.

[Groovy]

1991 is probably the worst for Billboard in the 90s, any year where Bryan Adams has the biggest hit of the year is a dud.

[gikem]

Apr 11, 2021 13:50:19 GMT -5 Groovy said:

1991 is probably the worst for Billboard in the 90s, any year where Bryan Adams has the biggest hit of the year is a dud.

I don't completely disagree, but I thought the common opinion was that 1990 was the worst of that decade.

Generally, I think 1990 and 1991 were equally bad years for hits, at least according to what made those YE's. Comparing the two years, 1990 has more bad songs on the YE, while 1991 has better high points, but also just as bad if not worse low points.

[Henry Suárez]

Apr 11, 2021 11:52:08 GMT -5 jenglisbe said:

Apr 11, 2021 11:00:03 GMT -5 Soulsista said:

Billboard Top 10 from 35, 30, 25, and 20 years ago:
April 20, 1991

01 02 You're In Love - Wilson Phillips (1st and only week at #1)
02 04 Baby Baby - Amy Grant
03 01 I've Been Thinking About You - Londonbeat
04 03 Hold You Tight - Tara Kemp
05 06 Joyride - Roxette
06 05 Sadeness (Part 1) - Enigma
07 07 Rico Suave - Gerardo
08 13 I Like The Way (The Kissing Game) - Hi-Five
09 11 Cry For Help - Rick Astley
10 15 Here We Go (Let's Rock & Roll) - C+C Music Factory

This is a funny top 10 to me just because most of these acts are basically one hit/album wonders, particularly in what they're remembered for. A few had maybe 2 albums of hits, but the point is no one on here had Hot 100 success for more than a couple years.

Maybe only Gerardo, the rest of them didn't have much longevity but were no one hit wonders at all, they had more than 1 hit, definitely.

and probably in the minority here but I think 1989, 1990, 1991 were great year for hits, I really like most of the pop hits from those years.

Everything I Do I Do It For You was arguably one of the biggest hits of all time, not a bad song at all and I don't think it's forgotten but whatever.

[Groovy]

Apr 11, 2021 14:00:16 GMT -5 gikem said:

Apr 11, 2021 13:50:19 GMT -5 Groovy said:

1991 is probably the worst for Billboard in the 90s, any year where Bryan Adams has the biggest hit of the year is a dud.

I don't completely disagree, but I thought the common opinion was that 1990 was the worst of that decade.

Generally, I think 1990 and 1991 were equally bad years for hits, at least according to what made those YE's. Comparing the two years, 1990 has more bad songs on the YE, while 1991 has better high points, but also just as bad if not worse low points.

I thought 1990 was pretty mediocre year for music, it's sure as hell not better than the same of the other years in the 90s but it's not as terrible as 1991 was. 

[Fears in the Fire]

Apr 11, 2021 11:14:11 GMT -5 Soulsista said:

01 01 E.T. - Katy Perry feat. Kanye West (2nd of 5 weeks at #1)
02 02 S&M - Rihanna
03 05 Just Can't Get Enough - The Black Eyed Peas
04 03 F**k You (Forget You) - CeeLo Green
05 04 Born This Way - Lady Gaga
06 07 Look At Me Now - Chris Brown feat. Lil Wayne & Busta Rhymes
07 09 Down On Me - Jeremih feat. 50 Cent
08 10 On The Floor - Jennifer Lopez feat. Pitbull
09 08 F**kin' Perfect - P!nk
10 17 Rolling In The Deep - Adele

22 57 John - Lil Wayne feat. Rick Ross

Adele is coming👀

[Groovy]

How would you guys rank the years of the 90s

1. 1995
2. 1992
3. 1993
4. 1998
5. 1994
6. 1999
7. 1997
8. 1990
9. 1996
10. 1991

[CF15]

In terms of the Hot 100 year-end (plus airplay-only songs such as "Iris" that didn't get to chart due to that rule that was in place), I would say it is something like this:

1. 1995
2. 1996
3. 1993
4. 1992
5. 1998
6. 1997
7. 1999
8. 1994
9. 1991
10. 1990

1991 and 1990 still had a few great ones that come to mind, such as "Losing My Religion" and "Sending All My Love", but I honestly don't even recognize a lot of the bigger hits of those years. Seriously, I don't even remember how either the #1 or #2 on the 1990 year-end chart go.

And the Enigma song was the only one in that top ten from 30 years ago that I recognized. It is a really good one, though.

[phieaglesfan712]

To me, 1992-1998 felt like the real years of the 1990s. 1990 and 1991 was part of the pre-Soundscan era, and felt like an extension of the 1980s. 1999 was part of the post-airplay rule, and felt like part of the 2000s.

Of that 1991 list, I only recognize Baby Baby (I think it goes to #1 the next week). That's pretty much the only Amy Grant song I remember outside of her Christmas hits.

[Gary]

Amy Grant is a Contemporary Christian artist primarily that happened to get a couple of mainstream pop hits. Most recent album release was 2016

[fhas]

[korbel16]

Has there been a top 10 where all 10 songs were number 1 hits?

[renfield75]

I feel like 2020/2021 (so far) is equivalent to 1990/91. Lots of hits that will likely be forgotten and number ones from superstars that will be their most forgettable. Years from now when people think of Drake, Bieber, Taylor, Gaga and Travis Scott they probably won't think of What's Next/Toosie Slide, Stuck With U/Peaches, Cardigan/Willow, Rain On Me, The Scotts/Franchise...which will leave newer stars like Roddy Rich, BTS, Dua Lipa, and Olivia Rodrigo. Some of them may be superstars 5 years from now but in 1990/91 we thought the same thing about Paula Abdul, Wilson Phillips, and Roxette.

Also, as someone who was in 9th and 10th grade in 1990/1991, there were a lot of great jams then. They're just mostly lost to the past now, unfortunately. But yeah, it wasn't a particularly great time overall. 1992, on the other hand, is chock full of classics.

[renfield75]

Some of the legit enduring classics from 90/91: Madonna's "Vogue", Deee-Lite's "Groove Is In The Heart", Metallica's "Enter Sandman", REM's "Losing My Religion", Chris Isaak's "Wicked Game", Lisa Stansfield's "All Around The World", Sinead O'Connor's "Nothing Compares 2 U", Mariah's "Vision Of Love", MC Hammer's "U Can't Touch This", Digital Underground's "The Humpty Dance", Bell Biv DeVoe's "Poison", Color Me Badd's "I Wanna Sex You Up", Naughty By Nature's "OPP", LL Cool J's "Mama Said Knock You Out", Depeche Mode's "Enjoy The Silence", Biz Markie's "Just A Friend" and, if I'm being honest, "Ice Ice Baby" and Marky Mark's "Good Vibrations".

[chartfreak]

Come on Bruno...get that #1!!!

[Abbaschand]

Apr 11, 2021 11:14:11 GMT -5 Soulsista said:

Billboard Top 10 Flashback:
April 18, 2020

01 NE Toosie Slide - Drake (1st and only week at #1)

Who is Michael Jack, and why do you dance like his son?

[Lost In Musical Reverie]

Apr 11, 2021 16:54:52 GMT -5 Abbaschand said:

Apr 11, 2021 11:14:11 GMT -5 Soulsista said:

Billboard Top 10 Flashback:
April 18, 2020

01 NE Toosie Slide - Drake (1st and only week at #1)

Who is Michael Jack, and why do you dance like his son?

I'm here wondering why Drake is bragging to his son that he can dance like this Michael Jack guy. 

Poor Adonis...he probably thinks his dad can dance like the King Of Pop, but he's actually referring to the UK Conservative Party politician


en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Jack

[degen]

Apr 11, 2021 15:49:47 GMT -5 renfield75 said:

I feel like 2020/2021 (so far) is equivalent to 1990/91. Lots of hits that will likely be forgotten and number ones from superstars that will be their most forgettable. Years from now when people think of Drake, Bieber, Taylor, Gaga and Travis Scott they probably won't think of What's Next/Toosie Slide, Stuck With U/Peaches, Cardigan/Willow, Rain On Me, The Scotts/Franchise...which will leave newer stars like Roddy Rich, BTS, Dua Lipa, and Olivia Rodrigo. Some of them may be superstars 5 years from now but in 1990/91 we thought the same thing about Paula Abdul, Wilson Phillips, and Roxette.

Also, as someone who was in 9th and 10th grade in 1990/1991, there were a lot of great jams then. They're just mostly lost to the past now, unfortunately. But yeah, it wasn't a particularly great time overall. 1992, on the other hand, is chock full of classics.

The one-week #1s this year feel much stronger than the 2020 ones. “Up,” “Peaches” and probably “Leave The Door Open” are having longevity in the Top 10. “Montreo” is too soon to call but it’s looking good so far. It’s really just “What’s Next” that is on par with the one weak #1s from last year.

[renfield75]

Apr 11, 2021 17:51:53 GMT -5 degen said:

Apr 11, 2021 15:49:47 GMT -5 renfield75 said:

I feel like 2020/2021 (so far) is equivalent to 1990/91. Lots of hits that will likely be forgotten and number ones from superstars that will be their most forgettable. Years from now when people think of Drake, Bieber, Taylor, Gaga and Travis Scott they probably won't think of What's Next/Toosie Slide, Stuck With U/Peaches, Cardigan/Willow, Rain On Me, The Scotts/Franchise...which will leave newer stars like Roddy Rich, BTS, Dua Lipa, and Olivia Rodrigo. Some of them may be superstars 5 years from now but in 1990/91 we thought the same thing about Paula Abdul, Wilson Phillips, and Roxette.

Also, as someone who was in 9th and 10th grade in 1990/1991, there were a lot of great jams then. They're just mostly lost to the past now, unfortunately. But yeah, it wasn't a particularly great time overall. 1992, on the other hand, is chock full of classics.

The one-week #1s this year feel much stronger than the 2020 ones. “Up,” “Peaches” and probably “Leave The Door Open” are having longevity in the Top 10. “Montreo” is too soon to call but it’s looking good so far. It’s really just “What’s Next” that is on par with the one weak #1s from last year.

My point was more about the forgettable number ones from superstars in 1991. Obviously there's no way to know right now, but when people in 2051 think of Justin Bieber songs will "Peaches" be what they think of first? Maybe, but probably not. Those number ones by A-listers in '91 had solid longevity for the time but those songs have more or less disappeared from the public consciousness now.

[ry4n]

1990/1991 hits feel very stale. It's like no one knew what to do after the 80s ended so they just lingered on that.

[jdanton2]

i think there are alot of years from the beginning of the Hot 100 until now where alot of #1 songs are forgotten . i have listened to every song at least once and many of them are not played on the radio anywhere at least in my area . Music Choice and Sirius XM are more likely to play them on their decade stations.

[renfield75]

Apr 11, 2021 18:28:02 GMT -5 ry4n said:

1990/1991 hits feel very stale. It's like no one knew what to do after the 80s ended so they just lingered on that.

In hindsight, it's crazy how many Hot 100 powerhouses blew up then disappeared between 1989 and 1991. Just within those two years Paula Abdul, New Kids On The Block, Milli Vanilli, Roxette, and Wilson Phillips each had 3 or more number one hits. After 1991, not a single one of them would ever make the top ten again. It's easy to point to the arrival of Soundscan as the reason, but the signs were already there: In the final weeks of 1991 Nirvana, Jodeci, Boyz II Men, Metallica, and the Geto Boys were in the top 40. Not long after that Snoop Dogg, Mary J. Blige, and Euro/rave acts would join them as grunge and country acts took over the Billboard 200. The 90s had arrived and the interim stars from 89-91 were suddenly yesterday's news.

[Gary]

Music styles from every decade spills over a little into the next one. Wasn't just 80s to 90s

[Deleted]

Music wise, I think the 2010s are over (for example, EDM is pretty much dead), but I also don't think the 2020s have kicked in quite yet. We'll probably get a better idea of where things are headed once the pandemic ends, and I think that 2019-2021 will end up as it's own little era (call it the TikTok Era or COVID Era).

[jenglisbe]

Apr 11, 2021 13:31:03 GMT -5 iHype. said:

Apr 11, 2021 11:52:08 GMT -5 jenglisbe said:

This is a funny top 10 to me just because most of these acts are basically one hit/album wonders, particularly in what they're remembered for. A few had maybe 2 albums of hits, but the point is no one on here had Hot 100 success for more than a couple years.

1991 is such a strange year in general.

A year rolling in artists who became basically completely forgotten by even the mid 90s. And what's even weirder is the hits managed by the actual superstar names in 1991 are also for the most part their most forgotten big hits.

Whitney's "All The Man That I Need" is (sadly) one of her most forgotten #1's.
Mariah's "I Don't Wanna Cry" is arguably her most forgotten #1.
Paula Abdul's "The Promise of a New Day" is like one of the most forgotten #1's just in general ever.
Prince's "Cream" is (unfortunately) also arguable as his most forgotten #1.

Janet's "Love Will Never Do", Gloria Estefan's "Coming Out of the Dark", etc also have the same arguments. You get the point. It's like that whole year was just forgotten by the public musically.

This is interesting and not something I had thought about before.

Apr 11, 2021 16:09:07 GMT -5 renfield75 said:

Some of the legit enduring classics from 90/91: Madonna's "Vogue", Deee-Lite's "Groove Is In The Heart", Metallica's "Enter Sandman", REM's "Losing My Religion", Chris Isaak's "Wicked Game", Lisa Stansfield's "All Around The World", Sinead O'Connor's "Nothing Compares 2 U", Mariah's "Vision Of Love", MC Hammer's "U Can't Touch This", Digital Underground's "The Humpty Dance", Bell Biv DeVoe's "Poison", Color Me Badd's "I Wanna Sex You Up", Naughty By Nature's "OPP", LL Cool J's "Mama Said Knock You Out", Depeche Mode's "Enjoy The Silence", Biz Markie's "Just A Friend" and, if I'm being honest, "Ice Ice Baby" and Marky Mark's "Good Vibrations".

But even a lot of those 'classics' are borderline novelty songs, or remembered but not in the sense of true classics (they're more like 90s relics that remind people of that time than they are general classics that transcend time).