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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on Apr 17, 2021 7:37:13 GMT -5
^Not only streaming but also the digital sales of those shared songs. Otherwise, that's the game of musical album chairs that Billboard has created with its rules for the Billboard 200.
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Post by Limited Edition on Apr 17, 2021 10:23:26 GMT -5
Crazy to me that After Hours isn't charting again. Without the streams of four of its songs, it doesn't have enough units to even make the top 200. Wow. Just shows how reliant the album was/is on its singles (two of which are currently in the top ten). I wonder if the album would've bombed had it not had blinding lights on it. *5 biggest songs. Let's remove Circles, Sunflower, Wow, Goodbyes and Take What You Want from Hollywood's bleeding and see how well it's charting |
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Post by thegreatdivine on Apr 17, 2021 10:57:48 GMT -5
I still think it was a dumb move on The Weeknd's part, releasing a greatest hits album this early into his career. This dude didn't even score a legitimate hit record until 2014. He has just 12 top 10 hits to his name and yet, he saw it fit to release a greatest hits album already.
The Highlights has done more good than bad imo. He was charting 3 albums weekly before it was released (Beauty Behind the Madness, Starboy and After Hours). Following it's release, all 3 albums have fallen off the Billboard 200, leaving the Highlights as his only charting album, effectively cutting away weeks/chart points his other albums would have been netting him otherwise. After Hours has already spent 2 straight weeks off the Billboard 200 and it'll likely spend a third straight week as well. Just terrible. Oh well.
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Post by Gary on Apr 17, 2021 13:41:54 GMT -5
extra revenue - he still has an album in the top 10 doubt he cares as much about the up and down movement of the two albums and the streaming charting rules and overall chart points
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Post by Bolt Cutter on Apr 17, 2021 19:29:26 GMT -5
The Weeknd’s faux pas with his Greatest Hits compilation renders Greatest Hits albums obsolete AND liable for streaming losses. How unfortunate for the Greatest Hits format. I suppose all we can expect are playlists.
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Post by Gary on Apr 17, 2021 19:46:31 GMT -5
Let's recall that the primary reason for this release was to capitalize on the Super Bowl.
But yes - New greatest hits albums are few and far between now
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Highlights is #45 on Current albums
After Hours is #56
As that flipflops - so will the positions on the main chart
Other greatest hits on the Current chart
White Stripes and Kidz Bop
so the format already on the way down but The Weeknd release didn't have anything to do with that it was already happening anyway - as you said a greatest hits album is basically a playlist
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Post by Gary on Apr 17, 2021 20:48:57 GMT -5
meant to say new rather than current- my bad
diamonds is more than three years old
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Post by goldrush on Apr 17, 2021 22:58:49 GMT -5
Crazy to me that After Hours isn't charting again. Without the streams of four of its songs, it doesn't have enough units to even make the top 200. Wow. Just shows how reliant the album was/is on its singles (two of which are currently in the top ten). I wonder if the album would've bombed had it not had blinding lights on it. *5 biggest songs. Let's remove Circles, Sunflower, Wow, Goodbyes and Take What You Want from Hollywood's bleeding and see how well it's charting That's a good point, but I'd bet that Hollywood's bleeding would still chart without these songs. It would be interesting to see if the other top albums from 2020 (eg. folklore, My Turn, Pop Smoke's sftsaftm, Juice WRLD's lnd) would still chart without their top five tracks. I have a feeling these would as their SPS seems to be less reliant on singles. I mean ultimately its the artist's choice to release a greatest hits album. It could be a strategic move in the future with this chart rule. Although the weeknd probably didn't know/care about this rule that kicked off all of his studio albums. |
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Post by Limited Edition on Apr 18, 2021 6:57:19 GMT -5
*5 biggest songs. Let's remove Circles, Sunflower, Wow, Goodbyes and Take What You Want from Hollywood's bleeding and see how well it's charting That's a good point, but I'd bet that Hollywood's bleeding would still chart without these songs. It would be interesting to see if the other top albums from 2020 (eg. folklore, My Turn, Pop Smoke's sftsaftm, Juice WRLD's lnd) would still chart without their top five tracks. I have a feeling these would as their SPS seems to be less reliant on singles. I mean ultimately its the artist's choice to release a greatest hits album. It could be a strategic move in the future with this chart rule. Although the weeknd probably didn't know/care about this rule that kicked off all of his studio albums. After Hours did chart for one week (or even two?) simultaneously with The Highlights. I guess it's pretty close to the top 200. My Turn would probably chart without the 5 biggest songs, Pop Smoke too (it's not over year old though), Folklore would (once again not over year old +Grammy winning effect). Hollywood's Bleeding probably not, it's way behind After Hours in pure sales and the album is 101st on AM while After Hours is 54th. Almost every over 1 year album relies on hits with few exceptions. |
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Post by WolfSpear on Apr 19, 2021 16:38:20 GMT -5
Yeah, that's true, but we're talking maybe a few hundreds difference between both albums in sales.
This has led to unusual chart trajectories.
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