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Post by korbel16 on May 19, 2021 12:44:38 GMT -5
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Post by s9983 on May 19, 2021 12:46:26 GMT -5
Sales/Streams and Airplay became so vulnerable for Chart Manipulation because BB is combining Remixes into one cumulative sales for the parent song or whatever version doing better.. let alone considering 10remixes that can be bought up to 4times per credit card for each remix.. that's like 40copies to be counted for a song from one credit card or something.. also, i have issues with combining orig version and remix. in addition, US Radio is also very corrupt.. but imagine deleting airplay and sales for H100, it's kinda boring with streams only, NO? Do you really want to count remixes separately? lmao Go for it... If Butter gets remixes every last one will fill the top 10 of the Hot 100. Y'all really don't want that. Personally, I hope they only release remixes of Butter if they do it to add featured artists. Someone keeps claiming the song is shorter than usual. If that's the case then maybe that is so they can do a slew of remixes with Bieber, Ariana, J Balvin, Demi and Quavo since they are all under HYBE now. What better way to stay #1 for weeks on end. thats definitely NOT happening, you'd need almost 100k for each remix and we all know damn well that is not happening. Dynamite only did 300k first week sales, so no lmao not even CLOSE. Not to mention if fradulent website sales are removed and they weren't desperate and release 6 new remixes, BTS wouldn't even spend a 2nd week in the top 10, nor would they go #1. I dont know why you keep arguing with ppl when no one is on ur side, you're very close to getting kicked off pulse. Stan behaviour is not allowed here. Feel free to exit before your kicked |
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Post by Choco on May 19, 2021 12:48:26 GMT -5
 poor Bebe. I have been aware of her apparent lack of creative direction and actual following for a while but that #140 peak has gotta hurt (and "Sacrifice" is really good  ). I think only the Doja collab has actually landed on the Hot 100...? just sad. |
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Post by s9983 on May 19, 2021 12:48:26 GMT -5
I think it's pretty likely that the following weeks will have stricter review of sales seeing as how so many sales were chucked out with this audit. Anyone agree?
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Post by thabb on May 19, 2021 12:51:15 GMT -5
I think it's pretty likely that the following weeks will have stricter review of sales seeing as how so many sales were chucked out with this audit. Anyone agree? I think so too. This stuff doesn't happen in a vacuum. Like, the Hot 100 top 10 reveal was delayed by two days and the entirety of Billboard's charts were delayed by a day. I doubt that they'll just be like "That was crazy folks! Nothing wrong here though" about it. |
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Post by Mattress on May 19, 2021 12:53:47 GMT -5
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Post by kiddo1994 on May 19, 2021 12:54:03 GMT -5
Sales/Streams and Airplay became so vulnerable for Chart Manipulation because BB is combining Remixes into one cumulative sales for the parent song or whatever version doing better.. let alone considering 10remixes that can be bought up to 4times per credit card for each remix.. that's like 40copies to be counted for a song from one credit card or something.. also, i have issues with combining orig version and remix. in addition, US Radio is also very corrupt.. but imagine deleting airplay and sales for H100, it's kinda boring with streams only, NO? Do you really want to count remixes separately? lmao Go for it... If Butter gets remixes every last one will fill the top 10 of the Hot 100.Y'all really don't want that. Personally, I hope they only release remixes of Butter if they do it to add featured artists. Someone keeps claiming the song is shorter than usual. If that's the case then maybe that is so they can do a slew of remixes with Bieber, Ariana, J Balvin, Demi and Quavo since they are all under HYBE now. What better way to stay #1 for weeks on end. they didn't fill the entire top10 with their album release last time... i don't see that happening |
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2021 12:55:56 GMT -5
omg...I just spit coffee all over the place, lmao. Whoever did that is brilliant. I do feel bad for Dua though. She deserves smarter stans, lol. |
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on May 19, 2021 12:57:15 GMT -5
I think it's pretty likely that the following weeks will have stricter review of sales seeing as how so many sales were chucked out with this audit. Anyone agree? I think so too. This stuff doesn't happen in a vacuum. Like, the Hot 100 top 10 reveal was delayed by two days and the entirety of Billboard's charts were delayed by a day. I doubt that they'll just be like "That was crazy folks! Nothing wrong here though" about it. What happened this week combined with what happened last week makes me think they will audit the sales data more than they had before them. |
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Post by kiddo1994 on May 19, 2021 12:57:19 GMT -5
people dragging LTDO when it's doing
#1 H100
#1 Airplay
#2 Digital Sales
#10 Streams
but crickets for Ariana's Radio-fueled songs this Era
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Post by ontopofthis on May 19, 2021 12:57:36 GMT -5
I bet someone 100 bucks levitating would be number 1 noooo I’m blocking them now 😭 That is so lame Pay them the amount that you owe |
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Post by goldrush on May 19, 2021 13:00:01 GMT -5
Is billboard not embarrassed? Also kind of crazy that LTDO is #10 on streaming and Billboard somehow thinks that it’s still the most popular song of the week. It’s funny how they’re trying to play this whole delay off and chalk it up to an audit. So shady and inconsistent. You do realize that streaming is not the only metric. Being #1 on radio and #2 in sales more than makes LTDO a worthy #1. Not to mention, LTDO has been the biggest and most consistent song over the last 4 weeks. LTDO is now a multi-week #1, and deservedly so. It’s clear you like LTDO lol. I’m not saying that it’s not a popular song, it’s just not the most consumed song this week (not even close). It’s literally number 10 in consumption (via rollingstone) which combines sales and streams. It doesn’t matter how a song performed over previous weeks, that doesn’t determine its placement this week so I don’t really understand what you’re arguing. I’m just saying billboards formula is a little too lopsided. I was more commenting on how Billboard said the delay this week was due to an audit as if they aren’t auditing sales every week. They should be doing these audits every week. |
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Post by Choco on May 19, 2021 13:00:12 GMT -5
people dragging LTDO when it's doing #1 H100 #1 Airplay #2 Digital Sales #10 Streams but crickets for Ariana's Radio-fueled songs this Era We are all side-eyeing "pov" at the moment but there's not much else we can do. "positions" and "34+35" were NOT radio fueled tho. They streamed really well. |
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2021 13:02:13 GMT -5
I think so too. This stuff doesn't happen in a vacuum. Like, the Hot 100 top 10 reveal was delayed by two days and the entirety of Billboard's charts were delayed by a day. I doubt that they'll just be like "That was crazy folks! Nothing wrong here though" about it. What happened this week combined with what happened last week makes me think they will audit the sales data more than they had before them. I hope they audit them every single week and provide an official report on it, especially while Butter or any BTS song is charting. Then maybe the people that incessantly accuse Army of breaking rules or cheating will finally shut up, lol. Tell us all how many sales from how many different payment methods, what state each billing address comes from and whether or not their IP location matches. Put it all out there. I'm 100% for it. |
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Post by nathanalbright on May 19, 2021 13:06:05 GMT -5
I bet someone 100 bucks levitating would be number 1 noooo I’m blocking them now 😭 Why not just pay them? |
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2021 13:07:49 GMT -5
Why? What is the difference in theory? In both scenarios, someone from another countries spends money in the US market. Anyway, can’t Levitating go #1 in two weeks after Olivia? It’s still skyrocketing on radio and streams are steady. I really should not have to explain this, but I'll humor you. The difference is that US charts are specifically for US consumers, not international consumers. International consumers have the Global charts or their own country's charts. Now if you want to pay airfare and come buy an album in the US, then you are actually consuming IN the US, which is why it would count for US charts. And no, there isn't a snowball's chance in hell that Levitating will go to #1 against Butter. Dua fans may as well throw in the towel on Levitating and start focusing on her next song. |
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Post by kimberly on May 19, 2021 13:08:03 GMT -5
people dragging LTDO when it's doing #1 H100 #1 Airplay #2 Digital Sales #10 Streams but crickets for Ariana's Radio-fueled songs this Era Ariana's songs are overstaying thanks to radio's glacial turnover rate, but calling them "radio-fueled" is a stretch, other than "pov"s current run as a third single that had already been a streaming hit in November/December when it was an album cut. "positions"#1 on streaming #2 on sales "34+35"#2 on streaming #3 on sales "pov"#14 on streaming #47 on sales |
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Post by kiddo1994 on May 19, 2021 13:09:05 GMT -5
people dragging LTDO when it's doing #1 H100 #1 Airplay #2 Digital Sales #10 Streams but crickets for Ariana's Radio-fueled songs this Era We are all side-eyeing "pov" at the moment but there's not much else we can do. "positions" and "34+35" were NOT radio fueled tho. They streamed really well. well, I guess I'm not familiar enough with positions and 34+35's streaming chart-run.. I'm just basing their recent radio-fueled performance for the latest weeks/month? |
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Post by leonagwen on May 19, 2021 13:10:40 GMT -5
Why? What is the difference in theory? In both scenarios, someone from another countries spends money in the US market. I really should not have to explain this, but I'll humor you. The difference is that US charts are specifically for US consumers, not international consumers. International consumers have the Global charts or their own country's charts. Now if you want to pay airfare and come buy an album in the US, then you are actually consuming IN the US, which is why it would count for US charts. Your getting so annoying! Can't wait to see Olivia keep BTS from #1 next week. |
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Post by thabb on May 19, 2021 13:13:45 GMT -5
people dragging LTDO when it's doing #1 H100 #1 Airplay #2 Digital Sales #10 Streams but crickets for Ariana's Radio-fueled songs this Era I'm sure people will go back to dragging the Ariana spam on radio for next week's thread. The main focus this week was "Levitating, to be #1 or not to be #1?". While I'm talking about it, I definitely want to say that the Scooter radio spam these past six months has been ridiculous. There was one week where 34+35 was #1 on pop radio, while Lonely was #2 and Positions was #3. It isn't surprising that POV already has high burnout despite only "officially" being a single for a few weeks. POV isn't doing a lot on streaming so the massive pop airplay is just shameful. There's no reason why Ariana should have 3 spots in the top 10 on pop radio. |
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Post by iggyamo on May 19, 2021 13:16:43 GMT -5
I bet someone 100 bucks levitating would be number 1 noooo I’m blocking them now 😭 Why not just pay them? They probably spent their 100 bucks purchasing Levitating approximately 144 times. |
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Post by meg on May 19, 2021 13:17:38 GMT -5
Why? What is the difference in theory? In both scenarios, someone from another countries spends money in the US market. Anyway, can’t Levitating go #1 in two weeks after Olivia? It’s still skyrocketing on radio and streams are steady. I really should not have to explain this, but I'll humor you. The difference is that US charts are specifically for US consumers, not international consumers. International consumers have the Global charts or their own country's charts. Now if you want to pay airfare and come buy an album in the US, then you are actually consuming IN the US, which is why it would count for US charts. And no, there isn't a snowball's chance in hell that Levitating will go to #1 against Butter. Dua fans may as well throw in the towel on Levitating and start focusing on her next song. My god can you stop? Both BTS and Olivia has a change for #1. Stop being so sure about Butter when the song is not out yet. |
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Post by kimberly on May 19, 2021 13:17:54 GMT -5
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Post by iHype. on May 19, 2021 13:18:31 GMT -5
I blame “Leave the Door Open” for existing.
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2021 13:21:22 GMT -5
I really should not have to explain this, but I'll humor you. The difference is that US charts are specifically for US consumers, not international consumers. International consumers have the Global charts or their own country's charts. Now if you want to pay airfare and come buy an album in the US, then you are actually consuming IN the US, which is why it would count for US charts. Your getting so annoying! Can't wait to see Olivia keep BTS from #1 next week. Like Ice Cream blocked Dynamite? You should block me if I annoy you. |
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Post by nathanalbright on May 19, 2021 13:23:34 GMT -5
They probably spent their 100 bucks purchasing Levitating approximately 144 times. Ooof. |
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on May 19, 2021 13:27:50 GMT -5
Now seems like a good moment to take a deep breath. I suspect next week's thread will start to heat up soon.
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Post by meg on May 19, 2021 13:27:52 GMT -5
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Post by nathanalbright on May 19, 2021 13:29:48 GMT -5
Things that make you go hmmm indeed. Starting a new charitable account for Loves who don't have enough money, why not?
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meg
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Post by meg on May 19, 2021 13:33:26 GMT -5
Things that make you go hmmm indeed. Starting a new charitable account for Loves who don't have enough money, why not? Oh I have nothing against it. They should go for it. But someone will run with that money as it always happen with western stans. That's first. And second, they spend months calling army boots and what not and now they want to copy it. But anyway, I'm not starting anything again. I just found this funny. |
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