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Post by nathanalbright on Jun 1, 2021 14:32:48 GMT -5
Well, if the essays serve to delegitimize Billboard and threaten its reputation as a chart authority, that might prompt them to make some belated changes. Such things have happened before.
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Post by sergf13 on Jun 1, 2021 14:33:41 GMT -5
Well, if the essays serve to delegitimize Billboard and threaten its reputation as a chart authority, that might prompt them to make some belated changes. Such things have happened before. I promise you billboard does not care at all about what this forum or a few people on stan twitter have to say. |
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Post by nathanalbright on Jun 1, 2021 14:38:33 GMT -5
"Social 50 has entered the conversation."
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Post by HolidayGuy on Jun 1, 2021 14:40:36 GMT -5
More BTS drama? Just because the single(s) were discounted to 69 cents, which is perfectly within Billboard's rules? No doubt the drama will continue when the physical singles are shipped out, and those send the single rocketing back up the chart- also perfectly acceptable within the rules.
All acts have the capability to push their product as much and as legitimately as they can- some do it, and care about it, more than others. That's all.
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Post by Sambalada on Jun 1, 2021 14:40:46 GMT -5
Well, if the essays serve to delegitimize Billboard and threaten its reputation as a chart authority, that might prompt them to make some belated changes. Such things have happened before. I promise you billboard does not care at all about what this forum or a few people on stan twitter have to say. I'm actually writing an official letter to Billboard with my team and it will be set to sent by the next week. I work at Interscope. |
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Post by sergf13 on Jun 1, 2021 14:45:52 GMT -5
I promise you billboard does not care at all about what this forum or a few people on stan twitter have to say. I'm actually writing an official letter to Billboard with my team and it will be set to sent by the next week. I work at Interscope. Scratch what I said about this thread being tame, this is getting interesting lmao And to be clear, I wouldn't believe that without proof. |
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Post by kimberly on Jun 1, 2021 14:52:29 GMT -5
I promise you billboard does not care at all about what this forum or a few people on stan twitter have to say. I'm actually writing an official letter to Billboard with my team and it will be set to sent by the next week. I work at Interscope. could you please fix me a record deal bestie π₯Ί I can be the next big industry plant πͺ΄ |
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Post by divasummer on Jun 1, 2021 15:01:11 GMT -5
Can someone just make a "Global" Billboard thread please EACH week???
I want to know about the US HOT 100 not the Global exl. US chart etc.
Please stop.
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Post by Gary on Jun 1, 2021 15:01:18 GMT -5
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Post by Gary on Jun 1, 2021 15:02:06 GMT -5
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Post by nathanalbright on Jun 1, 2021 15:02:11 GMT -5
2-3 of those pages will be posts of new debuts, various charts for the week. It's possible.
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Post by divasummer on Jun 1, 2021 15:11:40 GMT -5
Let's all hope that Billboard will get rid of sales entirely although that is wishful thinking. No they shouldn't... Not everybody wants to stream?? I know other people (like myself) who still purchase music. The Top song still sells 20,000 copies (I think) and yes it should be counted. Should they stop these multiple strange sales. Of course. |
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Post by nathanalbright on Jun 1, 2021 15:25:34 GMT -5
I think that making the sales rules consistent and bringing the Hot 100 and Canadian 100 in line with the global sales rules would be worthwhile.
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Post by Enigma. on Jun 1, 2021 15:28:19 GMT -5
what's the difference between what BTS did and what Taylor did for Me! or Gaga bundling jockstraps or Lil Nas with the remixes? It's the chart game. Even us Little Monsters don't remember those jockstraps but glad you do. Speaking of jockstraps, Lil Nas X's new one debuts at #66. That's not good... |
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Post by divasummer on Jun 1, 2021 15:33:26 GMT -5
Well I hope people take note and take all talk about Global stuff over there. That's why it's there I guess. I'm sure I'm not the only one who just comes to this thread for the Hot 100 and not a war on who does better in other countries when this is the US HOT 100 thread. I probably wouldn't mind but reading through 3 pages of stuff from Wiki about peaks in other countries is getting a bit much if there's another thread for that. Prove your points in that one. |
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Post by phieaglesfan712 on Jun 1, 2021 15:36:38 GMT -5
While you are at it, can you bring back the recurrent chart?
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Post by Mathgeek on Jun 1, 2021 15:55:53 GMT -5
Buying will still be an issue whether fans can buy multiple or a few. Theyβll just make multiple accounts and teach each other to adjust so no matter what, these things will happen. The BTS fandom especially runs like a machine. At this point, I guess itβs good their streams get filtered the way they do.
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Post by gikem on Jun 1, 2021 16:16:03 GMT -5
Other debuts this week beyond Olivia and BTS:
#33 Gang Gang - Polo G ft. Lil Wayne
#51 Twerkulator - City Girls
#66 Sun Goes Down - Lil Nas X
#68 Maybach - 42 Dugg ft. Future
#85 Leave Before You Love Me - Marshmello & Jonas Brothers
#92 24 Hours - A Boogie Wit Da Hoodie ft. Lil Durk
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Post by chartfreak on Jun 1, 2021 16:34:35 GMT -5
You guys act like there are millions of BTS fans buying multiple copies. When you break it down, it's not many at all.
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Post by ZERO on Jun 1, 2021 17:41:47 GMT -5
Speaking of jockstraps, Lil Nas X's new one debuts at #66. That's not good... Think it was more meant to be akin to a promo single rather than a full-fledged one: "MONTERO" is in full swing at radio and I doubt Lil Nas would just stop everything going for it in place of another single |
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Post by nathanalbright on Jun 1, 2021 17:46:48 GMT -5
This does have a promo feel about it. Just some fresh content to sate the appetite for the debut album. Meanwhile, isn't it worth commenting on how remarkable it is that Olivia Rodrigo of all people had a debut album before Lil Nas X?
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Post by lucidruid on Jun 1, 2021 18:06:41 GMT -5
Other debuts this week beyond Olivia and BTS: #33 Gang Gang - Polo G ft. Lil Wayne #51 Twerkulator - City Girls #66 Sun Goes Down - Lil Nas X #68 Maybach - 42 Dugg ft. Future #85 Leave Before You Love Me - Marshmello & Jonas Brothers #92 24 Hours - A Boogie Wit Da Hoodie ft. Lil Durk not Twerkulator debuting higher than Lil Nas... |
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Post by π‘πππππ€ on Jun 1, 2021 18:44:02 GMT -5
You guys act like there are millions of BTS fans buying multiple copies. When you break it down, it's not many at all. which is lowkey even worse but eh, I wonβt lose sleep Is kimberly the next main pop girl? what will ur debut single be called, queen |
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Post by Tea-why on Jun 1, 2021 19:03:35 GMT -5
Iβm out of touch with how the charts work these days and whatβs going on this week but can someone explain the issue with website sales? I tried to find what the problem was by searching this thread but could not find an explanation.
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Post by Naos on Jun 1, 2021 19:42:14 GMT -5
A Boogie Wit Da Hoodie really fell off. He was never huge seemingly, but he barely charted despite a Lil Durk feature.
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Post by nathanalbright on Jun 1, 2021 19:50:37 GMT -5
Do we know if anything went recurrent so far this week?
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Post by gikem on Jun 1, 2021 20:02:53 GMT -5
Do we know if anything went recurrent so far this week? Not yet. And no predictor I've seen has anything listed as expected to go recurrent. Some low-charting songs like The Business, La Noche De Anoche, and Lady could be cut off early this week. On Me is also close to the threshold, but I think it has a better chance to leave next week, along with Streets and Hell of a View (and Lady if it doesn't leave this week). |
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Post by phieaglesfan712 on Jun 1, 2021 20:13:01 GMT -5
With there being 15 debuts, I'd be willing to bet at least one went recurrent. It's pretty much impossible to have that many debuts, and none go recurrent, unless at least ten J Cole songs fell off. Either On Me or One Too Many fell off. I hope it's the latter because that song really has no business being on the Hot 100.
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Post by ZERO on Jun 1, 2021 20:16:05 GMT -5
With there being 15 debuts, I'd be willing to bet at least one went recurrent. It's pretty much impossible to have that many debuts, and none go recurrent, unless at least ten J Cole songs fell off. Either On Me or One Too Many fell off. I hope it's the latter because that song really has no business being on the Hot 100. One Too Many has been exempted from recurrency thanks to the radio bullet rule for the past few weeks and considering it hasn't stopped gaining there I doubt it got booted just now, so probably On Me yeah |
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Post by mms82 on Jun 1, 2021 20:23:27 GMT -5
With there being 15 debuts, I'd be willing to bet at least one went recurrent. It's pretty much impossible to have that many debuts, and none go recurrent, unless at least ten J Cole songs fell off. Either On Me or One Too Many fell off. I hope it's the latter because that song really has no business being on the Hot 100. How many J Cole songs are falling off? |
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