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Post by countrymancarriefan on Jul 16, 2021 19:31:02 GMT -5
Do we have any predictions on who might be hosting this shindig? My hope would be the triumphant return of Brad and Carrie! That might not be as likely though. Will Darius and Reba get a year 2? Will it just be Reba solo? Any thoughts friends??
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Post by gardyfan on Jul 16, 2021 20:54:17 GMT -5
Watch them totally screw up and have Bobby Bones host.
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Post by Kanenrá:ke on Jul 17, 2021 0:41:26 GMT -5
Regarding FVOTY I’m just happy we have so many viable women again! Sure this year is a bit less competitive than last year but it’s still great to see.
I think that Carrie, Miranda, Gabby, Carly, and Kelsea are the nominees. With Miranda winning possibly. Maren, then Ashley are the next two most likely. I wonder if Lainey gets another hit or two if she’ll be liked by the awards.
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Post by bigfan101 on Jul 17, 2021 9:38:47 GMT -5
Watch them totally screw up and have Bobby Bones host. Please God no. I’m hoping for Kelsea/Thomas. They had potential when they hosted the CMA Fest. And, I may eat crow when the nominations come out - but I’ll be shocked if Gabby gets into FVOTY. Still feels like a year early for her, and the critical buzz just isn’t there. You can’t deny that she had two huge hits, but i think that makes her the favorite for NAOTY. As said above, Maren, Miranda, Carly, Kelsea and Carrie are my final five, with Miranda getting the win - outside shot to Kelsea and Carly.
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Post by countrymancarriefan on Jul 20, 2021 16:57:52 GMT -5
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Post by christianlarson9 on Jul 20, 2021 17:00:21 GMT -5
I wonder if this means she's not submitting any of the vault songs.
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Post by jab820 on Jul 20, 2021 17:11:12 GMT -5
I wonder if this means she's not submitting any of the vault songs. It makes sense to pull from the Grammys so the vote can go towards evermore, but why CMA? It stood a real chance, I think.
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Post by christianlarson9 on Jul 20, 2021 17:23:53 GMT -5
I wonder if this means she's not submitting any of the vault songs. It makes sense to pull from the Grammys so the vote can go towards evermore, but why CMA? It stood a real chance, I think. I think because the og version already won Album of the Year and that Taylor probably wanted other artists to have a shot at a nomination instead. Seems like something she would do.
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Post by stanches2318 on Jul 20, 2021 17:58:55 GMT -5
I’m glad because, she already has versions of these albums. Plus she ain’t labeled country anymore so it makes perfect sense. So this makes me happy.
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Post by .indulgecountry on Jul 20, 2021 18:13:20 GMT -5
I’m glad because, she already has versions of these albums. Plus she ain’t labeled country anymore so it makes perfect sense. So this makes me happy. Fearless is still a country album though. I think what others said makes sense: she probably felt like it wasn't completely fair to other artists to submit the re-recorded album for awards contention and let others have their chance for the notoriety. It's not like she needed it anyway, since the album's OG version already won her a lot of awards back in the day. That said, in some ways it would've been kinda cool to see essentially the same album get nominated a second time, over a decade later.
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Post by jab820 on Jul 20, 2021 20:03:44 GMT -5
I’m glad because, she already has versions of these albums. Plus she ain’t labeled country anymore so it makes perfect sense. So this makes me happy. Fearless is still a country album though. I think what others said makes sense: she probably felt like it wasn't completely fair to other artists to submit the re-recorded album for awards contention and let others have their chance for the notoriety. It's not like she needed it anyway, since the album's OG version already won her a lot of awards back in the day. That said, in some ways it would've been kinda cool to see essentially the same album get nominated a second time, over a decade later. I respect that if that is her decision... Although, it would be nice to have an album like Fearless TV take the spot of, say, Dangerous: The Album being nominated . It would be a good year for something like that to happen, actually. Not a ton of shoe-in uber-deserving albums in this cycle.
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Post by stanches2318 on Jul 20, 2021 20:31:45 GMT -5
Fearless is still a country album though. I think what others said makes sense: she probably felt like it wasn't completely fair to other artists to submit the re-recorded album for awards contention and let others have their chance for the notoriety. It's not like she needed it anyway, since the album's OG version already won her a lot of awards back in the day. That said, in some ways it would've been kinda cool to see essentially the same album get nominated a second time, over a decade later. I respect that if that is her decision... Although, it would be nice to have an album like Fearless TV take the spot of, say, Dangerous: The Album being nominated . It would be a good year for something like that to happen, actually. Not a ton of shoe-in uber-deserving albums in this cycle. The Dangerous album should be nominated and the winner. It’s the number one album of any genre midway through the year. Plus it’s a good quality album. So it deserves to win.
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Post by Kanenrá:ke on Jul 20, 2021 20:47:51 GMT -5
I respect that if that is her decision... Although, it would be nice to have an album like Fearless TV take the spot of, say, Dangerous: The Album being nominated . It would be a good year for something like that to happen, actually. Not a ton of shoe-in uber-deserving albums in this cycle. The Dangerous album should be nominated and the winner. It’s the number one album of any genre midway through the year. Plus it’s a good quality album. So it deserves to win. "good quality" is subjective obviously but it wouldn't be in my top 20 albums in the eligibility period.
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Post by zdm1998 on Jul 21, 2021 7:59:22 GMT -5
I think if the CMA voters deem Wallen as eligible this year then the album should be nominated. He shouldn't be nominated in categories like Male vocalist or EOTY due to the controversy, but if we are looking at just the body of work with the controversy around him as an artist removed, then the quality of the album is good and the undeniable success it was commercially makes me believe it should. Probably an unpopular opinion though (although I still don't agree with what he did last March.)
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Post by christianlarson9 on Jul 21, 2021 8:06:07 GMT -5
I think if the CMA voters deem Wallen as eligible this year then the album should be nominated. He shouldn't be nominated in categories like Male vocalist or EOTY due to the controversy, but if we are looking at just the body of work with the controversy around him as an artist removed, then the quality of the album is good and the undeniable success it was commercially makes me believe it should. Probably an unpopular opinion though (although I still don't agree with what he did last March.) The CMA's said he'll be eligible for all categories except artist awards (Male Vocalist and Entertainer like you mentioned). I do think he's a safe bet for Album of the Year. I think he has a chance for Single of the Year and Music Video for "7 Summers", but I could see him being left out there.
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Post by 14887fan on Jul 21, 2021 9:46:19 GMT -5
Wallen’s work will be nominated. Of that, I am sure. And they’d absolutely nominate him for everything else if they could. He’s been relinquished from his fuckups in the eyes of the Nashville industry.
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Post by stanches2318 on Jul 21, 2021 11:15:59 GMT -5
Wallen’s work will be nominated. Of that, I am sure. And they’d absolutely nominate him for everything else if they could. He’s been relinquished from his fuckups in the eyes of the Nashville industry. He should. He made a important mistake and then he served his time off. So I’m glad that they are playing him again on the radio. Hopefully soon everything with him will be back to normal.
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Post by 14887fan on Jul 21, 2021 11:21:19 GMT -5
Wallen’s work will be nominated. Of that, I am sure. And they’d absolutely nominate him for everything else if they could. He’s been relinquished from his fuckups in the eyes of the Nashville industry. He should. He made a important mistake and then he served his time off. So I’m glad that they are playing him again on the radio. Hopefully soon everything with him will be back to normal. Shitty post.
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Post by raylatch98 on Jul 21, 2021 11:47:45 GMT -5
How many fucking Morgan Wallen apologists are around here on Pulse? I swear I have lost track at this point of how many different people I see around here that always defend and excuse Morgan Wallen's actions and how he needs to be forgiven.
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Post by stanches2318 on Jul 21, 2021 11:52:06 GMT -5
How many f**king Morgan Wallen apologists are around here on Pulse? I swear I have lost track at this point of how many different people I see around here that always defend and excuse Morgan Wallen's actions and how he needs to be forgiven. One last thing, if one of the well known females in country did the same thing Wallen did would everybody feel the same way they feel about Wallen?
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Post by 14887fan on Jul 21, 2021 12:19:40 GMT -5
How many f**king Morgan Wallen apologists are around here on Pulse? I swear I have lost track at this point of how many different people I see around here that always defend and excuse Morgan Wallen's actions and how he needs to be forgiven. One last thing, if one of the well known females in country did the same thing Wallen did would everybody feel the same way they feel about Wallen? Yes. A non-Black woman spewing the N word is no better than Wallen doing it. What kind of question even is this?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2021 18:33:50 GMT -5
How many f**king Morgan Wallen apologists are around here on Pulse? I swear I have lost track at this point of how many different people I see around here that always defend and excuse Morgan Wallen's actions and how he needs to be forgiven. Darius Rucker seems to have forgiven him . They are close and I’m pretty sure Darius wouldn’t be around him if he thought he was racist....Darius has nothing to gain from being around Morgan so I’m gonna bet that they talked it out and Darius see’s who the real person is.
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Post by country11 on Jul 21, 2021 20:03:49 GMT -5
Everybody has their opinions about Wallen on here and mine are most definitely in the minority. Either way you can’t deny the success and quality of the “Dangerous” album, nor the fan base Wallen has. He has something many artists don’t anymore and that is authenticity and actual country music. Also is a great performer. He made a mistake, he’s suffered the consequences, now let’s see how he does. If he had said what he did in a racist or derogatory way to a black person there’s no defending him, but he did something so many people do all the time and people don’t bat an eye at, the only reason it got blew up like it did was because of the culture this past year. You can’t expect a person to make up for mistakes if they aren’t given a chance.
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Post by gardyfan on Jul 21, 2021 20:52:47 GMT -5
If he had said what he did in a racist or derogatory way to a black person there’s no defending him, but he did something so many people do all the time and people don’t bat an eye at, the only reason it got blew up like it did was because of the culture this past year. You can’t expect a person to make up for mistakes if they aren’t given a chance. Really? This is pretty ridiculous to say.
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Post by country11 on Jul 21, 2021 21:14:07 GMT -5
If he had said what he did in a racist or derogatory way to a black person there’s no defending him, but he did something so many people do all the time and people don’t bat an eye at, the only reason it got blew up like it did was because of the culture this past year. You can’t expect a person to make up for mistakes if they aren’t given a chance. Really? This is pretty ridiculous to say. Not really. Have you ever listened to rap or been around high school/college kids? Same phrase mentioned all the time.
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Post by .indulgecountry on Jul 21, 2021 21:26:37 GMT -5
Really? This is pretty ridiculous to say. Not really. Have you ever listened to rap or been around high school/college kids? Same phrase mentioned all the time. No, really. The "it's used in rap music" excuse gets thrown around by white people a lot but the only people using it in rap music are BLACK. G-Eazy and Iggy Azalea are not dropping the N-word in their music. There's a distinct difference. Also, if your argument is that it's okay because dumb high school kids say it... then that's a pretty flimsy argument. It's not okay then either. I was parked outside the high school waiting on my kids and a dumb little white boy in middle school popped off and called another dumb little white boy the N-word (with the hard -er ending, no less) back in May before school got out and I didn't know who the kid was that said it because he didn't ride my bus, but I did everything I could to track down who it was so that the school could deal with him and they did. He needed to know that he can't say that at all, and to say it so flippantly in front of all these other kids, some of which ARE black, including one of my own, made me livid. It was a very similar situation to Morgan's where it rolled off his tongue so easily that I knew it was a part of his everyday vocabulary and that's a problem.
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Post by mnvikings on Jul 21, 2021 23:00:23 GMT -5
Not really. Have you ever listened to rap or been around high school/college kids? Same phrase mentioned all the time. No, really. The "it's used in rap music" excuse gets thrown around by white people a lot but the only people using it in rap music are BLACK. G-Eazy and Iggy Azalea are not dropping the N-word in their music. There's a distinct difference. Also, if your argument is that it's okay because dumb high school kids say it... then that's a pretty flimsy argument. It's not okay then either. I was parked outside the high school waiting on my kids and a dumb little white boy in middle school popped off and called another dumb little white boy the N-word (with the hard -er ending, no less) back in May before school got out and I didn't know who the kid was that said it because he didn't ride my bus, but I did everything I could to track down who it was so that the school could deal with him and they did. He needed to know that he can't say that at all, and to say it so flippantly in front of all these other kids, some of which ARE black, including one of my own, made me livid. It was a very similar situation to Morgan's where it rolled off his tongue so easily that I knew it was a part of his everyday vocabulary and that's a problem. A lot of young, impressionable kids listen to rap and hip-hop music. They hear that word a lot by listening to those songs. Maybe we should ban the word from all songs and not be used again on rap albums. It’s not any different than parents who swear a bunch in front of their kids, don’t be surprised if they start swearing.
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Post by country11 on Jul 22, 2021 1:02:34 GMT -5
No, really. The "it's used in rap music" excuse gets thrown around by white people a lot but the only people using it in rap music are BLACK. G-Eazy and Iggy Azalea are not dropping the N-word in their music. There's a distinct difference. Also, if your argument is that it's okay because dumb high school kids say it... then that's a pretty flimsy argument. It's not okay then either. I was parked outside the high school waiting on my kids and a dumb little white boy in middle school popped off and called another dumb little white boy the N-word (with the hard -er ending, no less) back in May before school got out and I didn't know who the kid was that said it because he didn't ride my bus, but I did everything I could to track down who it was so that the school could deal with him and they did. He needed to know that he can't say that at all, and to say it so flippantly in front of all these other kids, some of which ARE black, including one of my own, made me livid. It was a very similar situation to Morgan's where it rolled off his tongue so easily that I knew it was a part of his everyday vocabulary and that's a problem. A lot of young, impressionable kids listen to rap and hip-hop music. They hear that word a lot by listening to those songs. Maybe we should ban the word from all songs and not be used again on rap albums. It’s not any different than parents who swear a bunch in front of their kids, don’t be surprised if they start swearing. I’m not saying it’s okay in any situation. But younger people listen to rap plenty and what is said goes into their vocabulary because they see it as a non issue. If people don’t want the word used they shouldn’t keep using it themselves. It’s such a slang word now because of rap culture tbh and it’s not like it used to be where you said the word everybody knew you meant it negatively against blacks. The way it’s used now with young people (for the most part) it’s like another term for friend or buddy. Whole point is Morgan used it in a common slang way and I think most agree with that, just not necessarily on here. He’s dealt with the consequences since and deserves another chance. Same as the Kyle Larson situation last year, just Wallen was much more in the spotlight.
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Post by castleoblivion26 on Jul 22, 2021 7:51:56 GMT -5
Everybody has their opinions about Wallen on here and mine are most definitely in the minority. Either way you can’t deny the success and quality of the “Dangerous” album, nor the fan base Wallen has. He has something many artists don’t anymore and that is authenticity and actual country music. Also is a great performer. He made a mistake, he’s suffered the consequences, now let’s see how he does. If he had said what he did in a racist or derogatory way to a black person there’s no defending him, but he did something so many people do all the time and people don’t bat an eye at, the only reason it got blew up like it did was because of the culture this past year. You can’t expect a person to make up for mistakes if they aren’t given a chance. so I take issue with what you said here for a few reasons. First you said that no one can deny the quality of the "Dangerous" album and before the whole controversy I had heard a couple of what many consider the best songs on the album and I think they are subpar and nothing better than what a lot of his contemporaries are releasing, plus I personally do not enjoy his so-called actual country music since to me it isn't actual country music. That doesn't make him any more authentic than any other artist imo. Now you mention that he made a mistake and that he suffered the consequences; what consequences? You mean the industry blacklisting him for a few months in the public eye while they work with him in the background to prepare for his comeback (and you cannot tell me that isn't happening). He's a white person using a word that is inappropriate for a white person to use, end of story. There is no denying or defending that in my, and many others, eyes. You can be in the minority and continually cry out that black people do this or that but it does not change the fact that it is inappropriate for him to use the word in any context! The only people who don't bat an eye at a white person using that word are usually racist, whether it be a form of ignorant racism or outright racism it is racism. Blaming the reason this blew up like it did on the public culture of this past year shows how little you understood of what was actually happening. As for him not being given a chance to make up for the mistakes he has made in the past year: umm he's had plenty of chances and hasn't learned from any as far as anyone can see. He was approached to meet and learn from many black organizations and he failed to do so. How is that learning from it? He did nothing and is just being welcomed back like there is no issue. for me I will not support any radio station, award show, or any other event that includes him because I feel he has done nothing to earn another chance, he's had plenty. Let's give some other well talented artist more focus and move on from this guy who refuses to learn anything.
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Post by stanches2318 on Jul 22, 2021 8:09:58 GMT -5
Anyway getting back on topic, whoever gets nominated for the CMAs I hope they deserve there nomination. I still wish they’d change the Entertainer to Artist and have New back to Horizon.
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