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Post by raylatch98 on Oct 9, 2021 21:38:30 GMT -5
I will say Chris Stapleton is one of the most polarizing artists here, the people that love him, really love him in spades.
While the people that hate his voice and loathe him, they LOATHE him and are very vocally passionate about it.
Not much in between from what I have seen
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Post by tim on Oct 10, 2021 0:24:49 GMT -5
I dunno, I've seen him live and wasn't all that impressed. Same goes for me with Dierks (with the exception being the Up on the Ridge tour of course)
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Post by 14887fan on Oct 10, 2021 2:57:12 GMT -5
Just because some Pulse members dislike Stapleton does not diminish the very real case that can be made for his potential EOTY win. I actually think it’ll be between him and Luke Combs. I don’t see either of the other three winning at this point.
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Post by carriekins on Oct 10, 2021 7:44:36 GMT -5
I dunno, I've seen him live and wasn't all that impressed. Same goes for me with Dierks (with the exception being the Up on the Ridge tour of course) Rude! lol We agree on George. ;)
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Post by .indulgecountry on Oct 10, 2021 8:12:17 GMT -5
I've never seen Stapleton live and never will, but I've seen performances from him on live TV in addition to his studio tracks and I cannot imagine him on the levels of Luke Combs, Carrie Underwood, or even Eric Church (who I also am not a fan of) in terms of being an 'Entertainer of the Year.' I have seen Carrie Underwood live 3 times and there is NO way that Stapleton could give her a run for her money in that regard. That said, I know the award goes beyond purely just touring so I know that Stapleton is at least in contention because of how big of a sales/streaming draw he is for the genre.
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Post by austin on Oct 10, 2021 8:56:31 GMT -5
If they ignored Carrie on years she was the odds on favorite to win, I’m not sure she wins it in a year they couldn’t be bothered to nominate her in FV, and she released two projects not geared to country radio and released no singles. I just don’t see it happening, even when the case can be made she deserves it.
I think it’s Luke or Eric.
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Post by stanches2318 on Oct 10, 2021 9:39:00 GMT -5
Quick question, doesn’t Mickey Guyton have the record on the CMAs for the longest time between her debut single to her New artist nomination? If this makes sense.
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Post by carrieidol1 on Oct 10, 2021 9:46:32 GMT -5
If they ignored Carrie on years she was the odds on favorite to win, I’m not sure she wins it in a year they couldn’t be bothered to nominate her in FV, and she released two projects not geared to country radio and released no singles. I just don’t see it happening, even when the case can be made she deserves it. I think it’s Luke or Eric. I’ve been stuck on this. It makes total sense, and I am far from expecting a Carrie win this year. However, this can also be spun to show that despite the lack of nominations, Carrie still made it into the top 5 of the pack - signifying that there’s still a major push to get this for her, and that a good chunk of the industry is still on board. The fact that she’s nominated on the power of extracurriculars and her legacy tells me that there’s at least a shot.
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Post by gardyfan on Oct 10, 2021 9:51:37 GMT -5
Quick question, doesn’t Mickey Guyton have the record on the CMAs for the longest time between her debut single to her New artist nomination? If this makes sense. Chris Janson's febut single was in 2010, although it only peaked at 52, and he wasn't nominated until 2018. He was on BNA records at that time so I think he might have the record. I didn't go back past the mid-2000's so it's possible someone past that was longer.
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Post by Kanenrá:ke on Oct 12, 2021 0:28:56 GMT -5
Quick question, doesn’t Mickey Guyton have the record on the CMAs for the longest time between her debut single to her New artist nomination? If this makes sense. Nope not even close! Technically Ray Charles holds that record! His debut single was in 1949 and he got his nomination in 1985!! 36 Years vs. Mickey's 6. Though I guess you can lower it to his first foray into the genre in 1962 and say 23 years instead! Same story with Darius Rucker, if you count his actual debut in 1994 you have a 15 year timeline! Vern Gosdin also would be a good one at 16 years (1967-1983). However he debuted in a group like Darius so does that count? Those three examples are obviously a little flawed given they got started in different genres and/or groups, so ignoring them the record belongs to Lorrie Morgan at 11 years! Here's a list of the top 10 (12 due to tie) longest! 01. Ray Charles - 1949-1985 (36 Years) 02. Vern Gosdin - 1967-1983 (16 Years) 03. Darius Rucker - 1994-2009 (15 Years) 04. Lorrie Morgan - 1979-1990 (11 Years) 05. Pam Tillis - 1981-1991 (10 Years) 06. Rodney Atkins - 1997-2007 (10 Years) 07. Earl Thomas Conley - 1975-1984 (9 Years) 08. Chris Janson - 2010-2018 (8 Years) 09. Reba McEntire - 1976-1983 (7 Years) (She was on her 6th major label album by showtime!!) 10. David Ball - 1988-1995 (7 Years) 11. Gary Allan - 1996-2003 (7 Years) (He was on his 5th album!) 12. Joe Nichols - 1996-2003 (7 Years)
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Post by mnvikings on Oct 12, 2021 3:05:08 GMT -5
Quick question, doesn’t Mickey Guyton have the record on the CMAs for the longest time between her debut single to her New artist nomination? If this makes sense. Nope not even close! Technically Ray Charles holds that record! His debut single was in 1949 and he got his nomination in 1985!! 36 Years vs. Mickey's 6. Though I guess you can lower it to his first foray into the genre in 1962 and say 23 years instead! Same story with Darius Rucker, if you count his actual debut in 1994 you have a 15 year timeline! Vern Gosdin also would be a good one at 16 years (1967-1983). However he debuted in a group like Darius so does that count? Those three examples are obviously a little flawed given they got started in different genres and/or groups, so ignoring them the record belongs to Lorrie Morgan at 11 years! Here's a list of the top 10 (12 due to tie) longest! 01. Ray Charles - 1949-1985 (36 Years) 02. Vern Gosdin - 1967-1983 (16 Years) 03. Darius Rucker - 1994-2009 (15 Years) 04. Lorrie Morgan - 1979-1990 (11 Years) 05. Pam Tillis - 1981-1991 (10 Years) 06. Rodney Atkins - 1997-2007 (10 Years) 07. Earl Thomas Conley - 1975-1984 (9 Years) 08. Chris Janson - 2010-2018 (8 Years) 09. Reba McEntire - 1976-1983 (7 Years) (She was on her 6th major label album by showtime!!) 10. David Ball - 1988-1995 (7 Years) 11. Gary Allan - 1996-2003 (7 Years) (He was on his 5th album!) 12. Joe Nichols - 1996-2003 (7 Years) She's probably close to the top if the debut single made it into the 20's
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Post by Kanenrá:ke on Oct 12, 2021 10:55:19 GMT -5
Nope not even close! Technically Ray Charles holds that record! His debut single was in 1949 and he got his nomination in 1985!! 36 Years vs. Mickey's 6. Though I guess you can lower it to his first foray into the genre in 1962 and say 23 years instead! Same story with Darius Rucker, if you count his actual debut in 1994 you have a 15 year timeline! Vern Gosdin also would be a good one at 16 years (1967-1983). However he debuted in a group like Darius so does that count? Those three examples are obviously a little flawed given they got started in different genres and/or groups, so ignoring them the record belongs to Lorrie Morgan at 11 years! Here's a list of the top 10 (12 due to tie) longest! 01. Ray Charles - 1949-1985 (36 Years) 02. Vern Gosdin - 1967-1983 (16 Years) 03. Darius Rucker - 1994-2009 (15 Years) 04. Lorrie Morgan - 1979-1990 (11 Years) 05. Pam Tillis - 1981-1991 (10 Years) 06. Rodney Atkins - 1997-2007 (10 Years) 07. Earl Thomas Conley - 1975-1984 (9 Years) 08. Chris Janson - 2010-2018 (8 Years) 09. Reba McEntire - 1976-1983 (7 Years) (She was on her 6th major label album by showtime!!) 10. David Ball - 1988-1995 (7 Years) 11. Gary Allan - 1996-2003 (7 Years) (He was on his 5th album!) 12. Joe Nichols - 1996-2003 (7 Years) She's probably close to the top if the debut single made it into the 20's Sure move the goal post enough and you can get her to the top! She’s easily the longest from debut single to nomination for a black woman!
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Post by mnvikings on Oct 12, 2021 13:38:41 GMT -5
She's probably close to the top if the debut single made it into the 20's Sure move the goal post enough and you can get her to the top! She’s easily the longest from debut single to nomination for a black woman! I wasn't talking about what she looks like. I'm just saying most people don't consider singers like Lorrie Morgan or Reba had "arrived" yet until they had a decent sized hit. Mickey's first song was a decent hit so she had had already made it so to speak. For Chris Janson it was five to six years but it was his 4th single.
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Post by Kanenrá:ke on Oct 12, 2021 13:43:07 GMT -5
Sure move the goal post enough and you can get her to the top! She’s easily the longest from debut single to nomination for a black woman! I wasn't talking about what she looks like. I'm just saying most people don't consider singers like Lorrie Morgan or Reba had "arrived" yet until they had a decent sized hit. Mickey's first song was a decent hit so she had had already made it so to speak. For Chris Janson it was five to six years but it was his 4th single. I didn't say you were, but was using that as an example on how easy it is to narrow the criteria down for any of them really. Also Reba had a hit the same size as Mickey's in 1978 on top of the 6 studio albums, while Lorrie was a member of the Grand Ole Opry since 1984. They definitely had arrived in ways bigger than Mickey.
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Post by stanches2318 on Oct 13, 2021 12:35:05 GMT -5
Here’s my winner list for the CMAs:
Entertainer: Carrie Underwood Male: Luke Combs Female: Gabby Barrett Group: Old Dominion Duo: Brothers Osborne Horizon: Gabby Barrett (It should be called Horizon again) Album: “Skeletons” (Brothers Osborne) Single: “Good One’s” (Gabby Barrett) Song: “Good One’s” (Gabby Barrett) Video: “Half Of My Hometown” (Kelsea Ballerini, Kenny. Chesney) Vocal Event: “Famous Friends” (Chris Young, Kane Brown)
Host prediction: Thomas Rhett, Kelsea Ballerini.
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Post by carrieidol1 on Oct 13, 2021 13:20:49 GMT -5
I agree with the Horizon name, I think it was much more representative of the category than New Artist is. Mickey is far from “new”, her star is just rising now - over the horizon. It was such a unique award and used to be one of the biggest of the night, now it just doesn’t seem as significant.
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Post by christianlarson9 on Oct 13, 2021 13:24:31 GMT -5
Honestly, none of the nominees in the category are new especially Mickey. All of them already have 1 #1 single with Jimmie and Gabby already having 2... I also agree that they should change it back to "horizon".
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Post by countrymancarriefan on Oct 16, 2021 19:17:34 GMT -5
Congrats to Cody Alan and all the broadcast winners! The fact that the big show is a little over three weeks away is crazy! It’s even crazier that we still don’t know who is hosting. Is it one host or co-hosts? Has anyone heard for sure. I just wanna know!
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Post by kamala 2024 truther on Oct 16, 2021 19:21:27 GMT -5
I wouldn’t be shocked if they decided to just forgo a host altogether, like the Oscars have done for years now.
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Post by gardyfan on Oct 16, 2021 20:23:31 GMT -5
Watch them totally screw up and have Bobby Bones host. I'm standing by this.
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Post by bdrm87 on Oct 17, 2021 4:44:39 GMT -5
Watch them totally screw up and have Bobby Bones host. I'm standing by this. That would be a big mistake IMO, but it would also not surprise me.
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Post by recordyear on Oct 18, 2021 10:04:15 GMT -5
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Post by carrieidol1 on Oct 18, 2021 10:11:29 GMT -5
Meh.
Makes sense, but never was impressed with his job at the ACMs.
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Post by bdrm87 on Oct 18, 2021 10:19:41 GMT -5
Bland but decent choice
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Post by raylatch98 on Oct 18, 2021 10:24:39 GMT -5
Could have been worse and Luke Bryan is a very likable guy and has enough goofy charm on his own that I think it could work.
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Post by Typo on Oct 18, 2021 10:38:19 GMT -5
That’s odd. He was panned as the ACMs host. This almost seems like a last-minute choice.
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Post by rsandcm1 on Oct 18, 2021 11:32:36 GMT -5
Damn it. The CMAs are the one country music award show that I watch. Seeing him hosting will make that a lot tougher to sit through.
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Post by zdm1998 on Oct 18, 2021 11:43:26 GMT -5
This gives off last minute vibes. Is Luke even nominated for anything this year? They never announce this late, only reason they would is if it was a good hosting pair like Reba Carrie and Dolly.
Could they at least not get Kelsea up there with him to help make it less stale lol.
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Post by kamala 2024 truther on Oct 18, 2021 11:44:57 GMT -5
I wouldn’t be shocked if they decided to just forgo a host altogether, like the Oscars have done for years now. Well…💀
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