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Post by Kanenrá:ke on Nov 9, 2021 21:01:04 GMT -5
Gabby has a good chance at becoming only the 6th artist to win the vocalist and new artist award the same night. Ricky Skaggs, Alison Krauss, The Chicks, Carrie Underwood and Chris Stapleton are the only artists to ever do it. I really don't think Gabby is winning both. I think she probably wins New, but gut instinct still tells me one of Maren Morris, Miranda Lambert or Carly Pearce win especially the latter two who were everywhere this past year I agree I think those are the 3 front runners but I could see Gabby pulling out a win too if only because of how big her first two singles were.
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Post by raylatch98 on Nov 9, 2021 21:05:26 GMT -5
I really don't think Gabby is winning both. I think she probably wins New, but gut instinct still tells me one of Maren Morris, Miranda Lambert or Carly Pearce win especially the latter two who were everywhere this past year I agree I think those are the 3 front runners but I could see Gabby pulling out a win too if only because of how big her first two singles were. I would probably say where I am at right now is 40% Miranda Lambert wins, 35% Carly Pearce wins (her being nominated for album really propels her chances in my eyes), 15% for Maren Morris and 10% Gabby Barrett.
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Post by Kanenrá:ke on Nov 9, 2021 21:07:16 GMT -5
I agree I think those are the 3 front runners but I could see Gabby pulling out a win too if only because of how big her first two singles were. I would probably say where I am at right now is 40% Miranda Lambert wins, 35% Carly Pearce wins (her being nominated for album really propels her chances in my eyes), 15% for Maren Morris and 10% Gabby Barrett. So no shot for Ashley at all? haha
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Post by raylatch98 on Nov 9, 2021 21:09:44 GMT -5
I would probably say where I am at right now is 40% Miranda Lambert wins, 35% Carly Pearce wins (her being nominated for album really propels her chances in my eyes), 15% for Maren Morris and 10% Gabby Barrett. So no shot for Ashley at all? haha I just don't see it. I would love if she won but it feels like if they were to go with a critical darling they would do Carly Pearce since she was more relevant during the year. That and it felt like Ashley McBryde was pretty under the radar wise compared to the other women.
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Post by Kanenrá:ke on Nov 9, 2021 21:11:39 GMT -5
So no shot for Ashley at all? haha I just don't see it. I would love if she won but it feels like if they were to go with a critical darling they would do Carly Pearce since she was more relevant during the year. That and it felt like Ashley McBryde was pretty under the radar wise compared to the other women. I was teasing ya, I'm mostly in the same boat as you for this one. On one hand I also think she has a basically zero chance, but she had enough support to get ahead of Kelsea and Carrie for FVOTY so there's always a chance however slim.
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Post by raylatch98 on Nov 9, 2021 21:14:08 GMT -5
I just don't see it. I would love if she won but it feels like if they were to go with a critical darling they would do Carly Pearce since she was more relevant during the year. That and it felt like Ashley McBryde was pretty under the radar wise compared to the other women. I was teasing ya, I'm mostly in the same boat as you for this one. On one hand I also think she has a basically zero chance, but she had enough support to get ahead of Kelsea and Carrie for FVOTY so there's always a chance however slim. I am still baffled Kelsea missed out entirely. Like Carrie I can kind of get as she had an overall off year on radio at least so if you squint I can understand her missing it (and if the people voting looked at her two albums as solely Christmas and Gospel albums). But with Kelsea I am still lost on Ashley McBryde being in over her.
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Post by Kanenrá:ke on Nov 9, 2021 21:15:27 GMT -5
I was teasing ya, I'm mostly in the same boat as you for this one. On one hand I also think she has a basically zero chance, but she had enough support to get ahead of Kelsea and Carrie for FVOTY so there's always a chance however slim. I am still baffled Kelsea missed out entirely. Like Carrie I can kind of get as she had an overall off year on radio at least so if you squint I can understand her missing it (and if the people voting looked at her two albums as solely Christmas and Gospel albums). But with Kelsea I am still lost on Ashley McBryde being in over her. Voting blocks will do that to ya! I'm happy for Ashley getting in, but I do feel Kelsea should have been in. I'd even almost have her in over Maren too personally.
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Post by stanches2318 on Nov 9, 2021 21:19:30 GMT -5
There is no way Gabrielle should not win New (Please bring back Horizon) and Female. She had the best year of any female because of the "I Hope" Which was the number one country song of 2020. Plus "Good Ones' was also a huge hit. With that being said, i'm a huge fan of Carly Pearce, especially her new album. I hope in the future she'll win it. As for Maren and Miranda its just that there years for it. McBryde shouldn't even be in this category over Kelsea. Kelsea would've had her first number one album if Kenny Rogers didn't die that week. and "Hole In The Bottle" was a huge hit. So that's my opinion.
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Post by raylatch98 on Nov 9, 2021 21:37:49 GMT -5
There is no way Gabrielle should not win New (Please bring back Horizon) and Female. She had the best year of any female because of the "I Hope" Which was the number one country song of 2020. Plus "Good Ones' was also a huge hit. With that being said, i'm a huge fan of Carly Pearce, especially her new album. I hope in the future she'll win it. As for Maren and Miranda its just that there years for it. McBryde shouldn't even be in this category over Kelsea. Kelsea would've had her first number one album if Kenny Rogers didn't die that week. and "Hole In The Bottle" was a huge hit. So that's my opinion. Okay first of all it's Gabby not Gabrielle. Also "I Hope" being a hit was relevant for 2020 not 2021 which is what this year is mainly focused on for consideration, otherwise we should factor in for Maren Morris "The Bones", Carly Pearce "I Hope You're Happy Now", and Miranda Lambert "Bluebird" since all were huge hits in 2020 as well. Also lowkey feels kind of icky to 'blame' Kenny Rodgers death on Kelsea not having her first number one album, I hope that wasn't your intention.
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Post by recordyear on Nov 9, 2021 21:43:04 GMT -5
Also "I Hope" being a hit was relevant for 2020 not 2021 which is what this year is mainly focused on for consideration, otherwise we should factor in for Maren Morris "The Bones", Carly Pearce "I Hope You're Happy Now", and Miranda Lambert "Bluebird" since all were huge hits in 2020 as well. Actually the eligibility period is July 1st 2020 to June 30th 2021, so I think 2020 and 2021 are weighted more or less the same.
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Post by raylatch98 on Nov 9, 2021 21:44:00 GMT -5
Also "I Hope" being a hit was relevant for 2020 not 2021 which is what this year is mainly focused on for consideration, otherwise we should factor in for Maren Morris "The Bones", Carly Pearce "I Hope You're Happy Now", and Miranda Lambert "Bluebird" since all were huge hits in 2020 as well. Actually the eligibility period is July 1st 2020 to June 30th 2021, so I think 2020 and 2021 are weighted more or less the same. Oh wow I did not know that. Thank you, sorry for being wrong.
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Post by stanches2318 on Nov 9, 2021 21:49:02 GMT -5
There is no way Gabrielle should not win New (Please bring back Horizon) and Female. She had the best year of any female because of the "I Hope" Which was the number one country song of 2020. Plus "Good Ones' was also a huge hit. With that being said, i'm a huge fan of Carly Pearce, especially her new album. I hope in the future she'll win it. As for Maren and Miranda its just that there years for it. McBryde shouldn't even be in this category over Kelsea. Kelsea would've had her first number one album if Kenny Rogers didn't die that week. and "Hole In The Bottle" was a huge hit. So that's my opinion. Okay first of all it's Gabby not Gabrielle. Also "I Hope" being a hit was relevant for 2020 not 2021 which is what this year is mainly focused on for consideration, otherwise we should factor in for Maren Morris "The Bones", Carly Pearce "I Hope You're Happy Now", and Miranda Lambert "Bluebird" since all were huge hits in 2020 as well. Also lowkey feels kind of icky to 'blame' Kenny Rodgers death on Kelsea not having her first number one album, I hope that wasn't your intention. Just to let you know for some reason when i started to type Gabby my Ipad changed it to Gabrielle. I don't know why? lol. it was not my intent to blame Kenny Rogers death on the album not going to number one. my point was there was a reason it went to number 2 that week. i thought that was it. to make my Point. "Good Ones' came out On June 8 2020, "Bones", "I Hope You're Happy Now" and "Blue Bird" all came out in 2019. As big as "Good Ones" was, that should be enough for her to win Fmeale like it was for Gretchen when she won Female because of "Redneck Woman".
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Post by bigfan101 on Nov 9, 2021 21:50:13 GMT -5
I agree I think those are the 3 front runners but I could see Gabby pulling out a win too if only because of how big her first two singles were. I would probably say where I am at right now is 40% Miranda Lambert wins, 35% Carly Pearce wins (her being nominated for album really propels her chances in my eyes), 15% for Maren Morris and 10% Gabby Barrett. This is about how i see it. Again, Gabby is not critically acclaimed…like at all. I would be stunned if they award it to Gabby first over Ashley or Carly - both who have yet to receive the award. There is a sense that you have to ‘pay your dues’…Carrie being the last female should show you how rare it is…and Carrie’s year was undeniably huge that year - and her competition was basically nil. Gabby doesn’t have that same luck - Miranda, Carly and even Maren can rival her success. I think it’s headed home with Miranda, deservedly so…but admittedly Carly has been everywhere it seems like recently, and that’s when voters submitted their ballots, so I could also see that.
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Post by raylatch98 on Nov 9, 2021 21:56:32 GMT -5
Having a big radio hit should not be the only qualifier though for winning the award because it's not like Gabby Barrett is that critically praised, not to mention she isn't everywhere like Miranda Lambert is with the special album she released, not to mention her collab with Elle King, or Carly Pearce who released an acclaimed album, and became a member of the Opry. I do think Gabby Barrett has a shot but to act like she is the only one deserving it is not right.
I mean Kacey Musgraves won it in 2019 and she has never had a huge radio hit that year, there are more qualifications then just big hits.
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Post by countrymancarriefan on Nov 10, 2021 1:29:46 GMT -5
I will do my full predictions before showtime tomorrow. I will just put in my two cents for Musical Event and Video right now since they will probably be announced on GMA in the morning. Just based on the performance line up, I think Musical Event Will go to Chris Young and Kane Brown with “Famous Friends”. I would have to say Video will probably go to Dierks Bentley with “Gone” Or Brothers Osborne for “Younger Me”. Now if either of those awards go to Elle/Miranda, Kelsea/Kenny, or Ryan/Maren I would not be mad or all the way shocked. I could even see Jordan Davis and Luke Bryan win MEOTY for “Buy Dirt” since LB is hosting.
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Post by 14887fan on Nov 10, 2021 2:50:58 GMT -5
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Post by zdm1998 on Nov 10, 2021 4:01:51 GMT -5
Wanted to give Kelsea a moment of silence. Seeing her not nominated this year really is irritating, because before nominations came out I would’ve told you the two people most deserving this year was Carly and Kelsea. I think she’s paid her dues and grown her name a ton over the past few years and this year would have been a great year to reward that considering she had a very good year for herself.
Fingers crossed Carly bags it cause she literally has been everywhere.
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Post by daddy on Nov 10, 2021 4:10:02 GMT -5
Wanted to give Kelsea a moment of silence. Seeing her not nominated this year really is irritating, because before nominations came out I would’ve told you the two people most deserving this year was Carly and Kelsea. I think she’s paid her dues and grown her name a ton over the past few years and this year would have been a great year to reward that considering she had a very good year for herself. Fingers crossed Carly bags it cause she literally has been everywhere. It's still all about the labels and voting blocks unfortunately. Kelsea's just not on a team that has the voting numbers. She definitely deserves a FVOTY nomination, she works so hard. I hope Carly wins FVOTY this time. I'm quickly becoming a fan of hers and her output has been amazing this past year.
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Post by recordyear on Nov 10, 2021 8:47:45 GMT -5
Half Of My Hometown took both Music Video and Musical Event of the Year.
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Post by mnvikings on Nov 10, 2021 8:58:07 GMT -5
Half Of My Hometown took both Music Video and Musical Event of the Year. Half of my hometown is a big enough song to win two awards but Kelsea can’t get a female vocalist nomination? The person two posts above this mentioned voting blocks and her label not being big enough but how then did she win these two awards? Someone who knows the business better than me please explain haha!!
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Post by austin on Nov 10, 2021 9:01:32 GMT -5
Half Of My Hometown took both Music Video and Musical Event of the Year. This really deserved both of these awards. I think her first ever wins at the CMAs too? Congrats to Kelsea.
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Post by recordyear on Nov 10, 2021 9:01:35 GMT -5
Half Of My Hometown took both Music Video and Musical Event of the Year. Half of my hometown is a big enough song to win two awards but Kelsea can’t get a female vocalist nomination? The person two posts above this mentioned voting blocks and her label not being big enough but how then did she win these two awards? Someone who knows the business better than me please explain haha!! I mean given that both awards are aired outside of the main show, they are not any big awards like female vocalist and act more like consolation prizes.
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Post by austin on Nov 10, 2021 9:03:41 GMT -5
I know I’m like the lone person not a fan of Carly Pearce on this board but even taking that aside, it would be stunning if Miranda Lambert didn’t take FVOTY in a year she’s up for Entertainer and still riding “Settling Down/Bluebird” good will and has a top 20 single with a rock artist. Carly had one top 20 and a well-received album…and Miranda’s album won a Grammy.
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Post by bigfan101 on Nov 10, 2021 9:04:17 GMT -5
Half Of My Hometown took both Music Video and Musical Event of the Year. Good for Kelsea. These are first two CMA's. She has done great work in music videos for her entire career, so excited to see her rewarded for this stellar song!! Kelsea's reaction is so genuine:
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Post by christianlarson9 on Nov 10, 2021 9:12:29 GMT -5
I was not expecting Musical Event to go to "half of my hometown", but Music Video always seemed likely (it's easily the best video among the nominees IMO). That said, I'm thrilled for Kelsea. I always knew this was going to be a career-defining song for her and it makes me so happy to see it bring her so much critical success and now her first 3 CMA's (she has production credits on the song and I believe that means she gets 2 awards for Musical Event; 1 as the artist and another for producer)! These are 2 very well deserved wins for and I'm so happy she's finally won something.
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Post by 3chords on Nov 10, 2021 9:19:46 GMT -5
I know I’m like the lone person not a fan of Carly Pearce on this board but even taking that aside, it would be stunning if Miranda Lambert didn’t take FVOTY in a year she’s up for Entertainer and still riding “Settling Down/Bluebird” good will and has a top 20 single with a rock artist. Carly had one top 20 and a well-received album…and Miranda’s album won a Grammy. I’m with you, I think it just depends if they’ve graduated her from winning or not and want a fresh face.
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Post by zdm1998 on Nov 10, 2021 9:49:25 GMT -5
This is Kelsea’s first wins at the CMAs if I remember correct. So happy she took it for this song because I know how much this song means to her.
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Post by raylatch98 on Nov 10, 2021 9:59:54 GMT -5
The two things that keep on making me think Carly has a shot is her getting into album with 29 over Miranda Lambert with The Marfa Tapes, and the Opry stuff with Carly Pearce. I do lean more towards Miranda Lambert but I don't think Carly is dead in the water.
Often times it feels like the people nominated in Album tend to be the ones to win Male or Female it feels like for me.
Also this goes without saying, but I am so happy for Kelsea Ballerini.
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Post by 3chords on Nov 10, 2021 10:05:54 GMT -5
The two things that keep on making me think Carly has a shot is her getting into album with 29 over Miranda Lambert with The Marfa Tapes, and the Opry stuff with Carly Pearce. I do lean more towards Miranda Lambert but I don't think Carly is dead in the water. Often times it feels like the people nominated in Album tend to be the ones to win Male or Female it feels like for me. Also this goes without saying, but I am so happy for Kelsea Ballerini. I totally think Carly has a shot, I did wonder if the fact that Marfa didn’t even have a producer and was shared billing with Jack and Jon kinda kept it out since these lean a little more commercial. I also will never wrap my head around how entertainer nominees lose their gender round or are completely left out like Carrie but I’ve stopped trying to figure these things out 😂
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Post by kamala 2024 truther on Nov 10, 2021 10:07:13 GMT -5
Couldn’t be more thrilled for Kelsea if I was Kelsea. “half of my hometown” is such a beautiful song and one of her best period, and the music video is phenomenal (she really is the queen of them currently). It’s so well deserved. Now for Black River to magically find bigger good graces so that she can nab FVOTY one of these years! (Not this year though, lol. I have to imagine it’s Miranda’s to lose.)
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